[ARCHIVED THREAD] - CWO5 Wade creates a new unit using Marines from 1/6, called Über squad issued suppressed M27s with D60s. (Page 1 of 8)
Posted: 6/13/2017 2:21:53 PM EDT
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http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/06/13/marine-uber-squad-will-get-suppressors-m27s-socom-gear.html
Looks like @0306 will be creating a Über Squad. Giving every Marine in Uber squad a suppressed M27 with D60 drum mags and Marines with the 240 will have 2 suppressed barrels. For this effort, every Marine in the Über Squad will be equipped with an M27; a suppressor; and Ops-Core helmets used by U.S. Special Operations Command with built-in hearing protection systems that muffle noises loud enough to damage eardrums, while magnifying other sounds to maintain troops' situational awareness.
He also plans to fit the section of company-level M240 medium machine guns supporting the squad with suppressors, using equipment borrowed from SOCOM to suppress both barrels of the guns. As a bonus, Marines in the squad will be equipped with Magpul 60-round polymer drum magazines. Military.com reported back in January that various conventional and special operations units were testing the drum in small quantities as a substitute for traditional 30-round magazines. While the drums offer a lot of portable firepower, there's also a question of weight to consider. Wade said he planned to set the unit up with about 100 of the drums and let each Marine figure out how many he needed to fight effectively. |
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Marine Corps To Issue Enhanced Combat Helmet to Every Marine
Posted By: Matthew Cox June 12, 2017 Marine Corps Systems Command has awarded a $51 million contract to Gentex Corporation to provide the Enhanced Combat Helmet, or ECH, to every Marine. Since 2014, Marines have only been issued the ECH when they prepare for deployment. This purchase will enable Marines to use the helmet during training as well, eliminating the need to trade helmets before and after deployments, according to a Marine Corps Systems Command press release. “Right now, we have three helmets fielded, but the future vision is a single helmet for all operating forces, which greatly simplifies logistics considerations and increases cost savings,” said Nick Pierce, team lead, Body Armor and Load Bearing Equipment. Also used by the Army and Navy, the ECH provides the most ballistic protection beyond any other Department of Defense helmet, according to the release. The Army fields the Enhanced Combat Helmet to soldiers for high-threat combat situations such as Iraq and Afghanistan. The ECH is about the same weight as the standard Advanced Combat Helmet but provides increased protection and is capable of stopping rifle rounds and fragmentation, Army officials maintain. The ECH consists of a ballistic shell, suspension pads and four-point retention system. In addition to those components, a reversible helmet cover, night vision goggle bracket and attachment hardware will be provided for wear. “The ECH is the helmet of the future Marine,” said Maj. John Draper, ECH project officer. “It’s important for Marines to train with the same gear they will bring into combat.” |
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Marine Corps To Issue Enhanced Combat Helmet to Every Marine Posted By: Matthew Cox June 12, 2017 Marine Corps Systems Command has awarded a $51 million contract to Gentex Corporation to provide the Enhanced Combat Helmet, or ECH, to every Marine. Since 2014, Marines have only been issued the ECH when they prepare for deployment. This purchase will enable Marines to use the helmet during training as well, eliminating the need to trade helmets before and after deployments, according to a Marine Corps Systems Command press release. “Right now, we have three helmets fielded, but the future vision is a single helmet for all operating forces, which greatly simplifies logistics considerations and increases cost savings,” said Nick Pierce, team lead, Body Armor and Load Bearing Equipment. Also used by the Army and Navy, the ECH provides the most ballistic protection beyond any other Department of Defense helmet, according to the release. The Army fields the Enhanced Combat Helmet to soldiers for high-threat combat situations such as Iraq and Afghanistan. The ECH is about the same weight as the standard Advanced Combat Helmet but provides increased protection and is capable of stopping rifle rounds and fragmentation, Army officials maintain. The ECH consists of a ballistic shell, suspension pads and four-point retention system. In addition to those components, a reversible helmet cover, night vision goggle bracket and attachment hardware will be provided for wear. “The ECH is the helmet of the future Marine,” said Maj. John Draper, ECH project officer. “It’s important for Marines to train with the same gear they will bring into combat.” The squad will come from Lejeune's 1st Battalion, 6th Marines, though the originating company has yet to be chosen. |
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This is a good change. Hopefully people realize this works and get away from the retardation that is equipping the military with a 7.62 rifle. I know a lot of people love to rag on me for my posts, but it does seem more and more every day were getting closer and closer to service wide adoption of the 416. |
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I agree with you there. The idea of a 7.62 for all is retarded. I know a lot of people love to rag on me for my posts, but it does seem more and more every day were getting closer and closer to service wide adoption of the 416. Quoted:
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This is a good change. Hopefully people realize this works and get away from the retardation that is equipping the military with a 7.62 rifle. I know a lot of people love to rag on me for my posts, but it does seem more and more every day were getting closer and closer to service wide adoption of the 416. |
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So he's fielding a squad of EEEE-lite Infantry Marines?
<Insert Heartbreak Ridge Platoon Sgt Pic here> Uber squad sucks, this new HK boondoggle rifle/machine gun/carbine/dickfer gun sucks, and a CWO5 with a severe case of the good idea fairy sucks. Fielding items just to be different has worked so well for the Marines in the past, why fight history? The entire concept of this gun is a retarded step backwards. HK is just a pimp working their Ho (The Corps). In the 80s it was the SAS, 90's it was the Seals and SWAT, now its the Corps turn to be pimped out and made to dance for whatever the idiots from Oberndorf desire. |
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I agree with you there. The idea of a 7.62 for all is retarded. I know a lot of people love to rag on me for my posts, but it does seem more and more every day were getting closer and closer to service wide adoption of the 416. You're not a bad guy, hopefully everyone does adopt the M27 but I highly doubt the piston is the reason why they would go with it. It has more to do with it being a readily available rifle with all of the upgrades that a M4 needs it just happens to have a piston. I personally would rather they went with SR-15s but they're not in inventory and readily available with years of combat use like the M27 is |
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Drums are a royal PITA to carry.... I'd say Surefire coffin style mags would be a better choice... or just reload your 30 rounders that already carry well on the body. You will use the D-60 as the first magazine in your rifle then when it is empty go to the 30 rounders. |
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So he's fielding a squad of EEEE-lite Infantry Marines? <Insert Heartbreak Ridge Platoon Sgt Pic here> Uber squad sucks, this new HK boondoggle rifle/machine gun/carbine/dickfer gun sucks, and a CWO5 with a severe case of the good idea fairy sucks. Fielding items just to be different has worked so well for the Marines in the past, why fight history? The entire concept of this gun is a retarded step backwards. HK is just a pimp working their Ho (The Corps). In the 80s it was the SAS, 90's it was the Seals and SWAT, now its the Corps turn to be pimped out and made to dance for whatever the idiots from Oberndorf desire. |
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So he's fielding a squad of EEEE-lite Infantry Marines? <Insert Heartbreak Ridge Platoon Sgt Pic here> Uber squad sucks, this new HK boondoggle rifle/machine gun/carbine/dickfer gun sucks, and a CWO5 with a severe case of the good idea fairy sucks. Fielding items just to be different has worked so well for the Marines in the past, why fight history? The entire concept of this gun is a retarded step backwards. HK is just a pimp working their Ho (The Corps). In the 80s it was the SAS, 90's it was the Seals and SWAT, now its the Corps turn to be pimped out and made to dance for whatever the idiots from Oberndorf desire. Which is the ultimate in retardation. |
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This should be cheap enough
you can get all kinds of 1/6 scale stuff on ebay 
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This should be cheap enough you can get all kinds of 1/6 scale stuff on ebay
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/14294/--1-229983.JPG |
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So he's fielding a squad of EEEE-lite Infantry Marines? <Insert Heartbreak Ridge Platoon Sgt Pic here> Uber squad sucks, this new HK boondoggle rifle/machine gun/carbine/dickfer gun sucks, and a CWO5 with a severe case of the good idea fairy sucks. Fielding items just to be different has worked so well for the Marines in the past, why fight history? The entire concept of this gun is a retarded step backwards. HK is just a pimp working their Ho (The Corps). In the 80s it was the SAS, 90's it was the Seals and SWAT, now its the Corps turn to be pimped out and made to dance for whatever the idiots from Oberndorf desire. Mickey mouse gun. When the AR was introduced? Made by Mattel! If the things work and meet the needs and requirements of a Corps currently in combat zones, then they need to be fielded. Who cares why or how they got there; I'd be all boner if they handed me that kinda gear as a young lcpl. |
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What was it the old corps said about the m1 garand when it was introduced? Mickey mouse gun. When the AR was introduced? Made by Mattel! If the things work and meet the needs and requirements of a Corps currently in combat zones, then they need to be fielded. Who cares why or how they got there; I'd be all boner if they handed me that kinda gear as a young lcpl. |
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Part in bold got us the M14 just fyi. Quoted:
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What was it the old corps said about the m1 garand when it was introduced? Mickey mouse gun. When the AR was introduced? Made by Mattel! If the things work and meet the needs and requirements of a Corps currently in combat zones, then they need to be fielded. Who cares why or how they got there; I'd be all boner if they handed me that kinda gear as a young lcpl. |
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While the drums offer a lot of portable firepower, there's also a question of weight to consider. Wade said he planned to set the unit up with about 100 of the drums and let each Marine figure out how many he needed to fight effectively.
"What I think I'm going to find is that, with the ingenuity of the lance corporal, everything is going to find its place," he said. "My assumption is they're ultimately going to be carrying one [drum]." |
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this is just more indication that most military leadership thinks capability is derived from equipment instead of training. |
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About time. Like I've been saying, replacing 249's with M27's only makes sense to me if the M27 is issued with >30 rd mags.
And to the Surefire mag pusher, the only benefit I see there is the Surefire 60s would fit in (altered) mag pouches unlike the D60. But one massive problem there. The Surefire 60's aren't dependable for shit. D60 for the win. |
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About time. Like I've been saying, replacing 249's with M27's only makes sense to me if the M27 is issued with >30 rd mags. |
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Meh, if the USMC was serious about the "suppression" side of the IAR mission (IMHO they never were) they made a lousy choice. Something like Ultimax or the LWRC entry that fired full-auto fromopen bolt would have be much better. Quoted:
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About time. Like I've been saying, replacing 249's with M27's only makes sense to me if the M27 is issued with >30 rd mags.
In all seriousness I probably wouldn't be either. Probably more useful for a DMR role, and if you're laying down SAW levels of suppressive fire, that barrel probably isn't going to maintain DMR accuracy for long |
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About time. Like I've been saying, replacing 249's with M27's only makes sense to me if the M27 is issued with >30 rd mags. And to the Surefire mag pusher, the only benefit I see there is the Surefire 60s would fit in (altered) mag pouches unlike the D60. But one massive problem there. The Surefire 60's aren't dependable for shit. D60 for the win. |
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You are stupid and shouldn't post anymore. Quoted:
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So he's fielding a squad of EEEE-lite Infantry Marines? <Insert Heartbreak Ridge Platoon Sgt Pic here> Uber squad sucks, this new HK boondoggle rifle/machine gun/carbine/dickfer gun sucks, and a CWO5 with a severe case of the good idea fairy sucks. Fielding items just to be different has worked so well for the Marines in the past, why fight history? The entire concept of this gun is a retarded step backwards. HK is just a pimp working their Ho (The Corps). In the 80s it was the SAS, 90's it was the Seals and SWAT, now its the Corps turn to be pimped out and made to dance for whatever the idiots from Oberndorf desire. |
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He's correct though. Guess you should brush up on your history. This is not a case of H&K pushing their rifle for the sake of pushing it. Everything in his post is wrong and full of stupid blinded by H&K hate. |
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This is replacing the M16/M4/M249. Quoted:
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About time. Like I've been saying, replacing 249's with M27's only makes sense to me if the M27 is issued with >30 rd mags. And to the Surefire mag pusher, the only benefit I see there is the Surefire 60s would fit in (altered) mag pouches unlike the D60. But one massive problem there. The Surefire 60's aren't dependable for shit. D60 for the win. |
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Based on my experience with Marines the equipment will be broken and covered with dick pics in 2 weeks. Quoted:
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That's pretty cool IMO. Give them the equipment, let them figure out how they want to use it. Inexperienced boots or drooling dumbasses won't get you anything worthwhile. |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - CWO5 Wade creates a new unit using Marines from 1/6, called Über squad issued suppressed M27s with D60s. (Page 1 of 8)
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