[ARCHIVED THREAD] - 23% of 18-24 year olds qualify for military service only 9% interested (Page 3 of 9)
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Climate and equity of genders is their priority? Fuck that! Killing and blowing shit up as efficiently as possible is the only priority they should have. Closing with the enemy, and then destroying them with speed, surprise and violence of action... that is what the focus should be. The folks in gov right now don't even know who the enemy is! They're wasting hundreds of millions of hours training people on pronoun use, not to trigger feelz, the 87 genders, and the evils of freedom. The opposite of honoring the Constitution. They are lowering physical standards, and taking people out of rotation for top and bottom surgery at taxpayer expense, all of which which ensures more Americans will die. But the number 1 reason not to join the military right now: knowing the acting President is illegitimate, fraudulently installed, and suffering from severe dementia, on top of his history of being a thin-skinned, arrogant asshole who was notably and consistently dead wrong about every foreign policy issue he ever issued an opinion about publicly! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Once again, satire is impossible in clown world. https://www.army.mil/article/256075/recruiting_diversity_in_americas_armyhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/6172511B-8BF5-4D9D-A2FF-B2EDCB07CCBF_jpe-2379045.JPG That organization seems like it has a decent mission, but I don’t know enough to comment intelligently. That said, I don’t think trying to meet a recruiting shortfall by focusing more resources on 13% of the population is going to work. |
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Quoted: I was waiting in a long checkout line at a garden store yesterday. There were lots of boomer women buying flowers for the fronts steps and other stuff, and the line kept getting longer and longer because there was only one cashier: an elderly senior citizen. She did a good job keeping things moving as fast as she could, but it was a losing battle. It was quite an image: store packed full of customers, a bunch of empty cash register stations, and just one older cashier. What’s that called? Poetic? Ironic? Millennial? |
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Quoted: Bingo. Quoted: Quoted: The "interest" thing is extremely malleable. I'd bet dollars to donuts that interest in military service shot up like a rocket after 9/11. There's less interest these days because war isn't at the forefront of the culture right now. Bingo. War is at the forefront of the culture. We’re just fighting this one with memes. 
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Quoted: …but is that enough to meet our needs? If it isn’t, sweeten up the full compensation money pot until it is. Yes it sucks; but it is the only way the to make it work. Sure. But how much do you have to pay people to overcome the fact that a large chunk of them perceive (rightly or wrongly) that you're paying them to go have their life run by people who absolutely hate their guts and don't have their best interests in mind? The perception is there. Raising pay won't overcome that. |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/F100F0F0-D1F0-48BA-88EC-120152F639AA_jpe-2378942.JPG Can't keep up with Biden's inflation eh? The boy in the picture is reassessing his career choice. 
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Biden in the near future… “Our military enrollment numbers are dangerously low. I just spoke to the Pentagon and they gave me a dire warning for America, they said we need more soldiers protecting democracy than ever before. So as Commander in Chief of the armed forces and because of a deadlocked Congress, I just signed an emergency EO granting emergency citizenship to all illegal alien males 18-25. We need to think about the future of America and that future is now!” News headline in 4 years, “Recently admitted illegals into the military program got a blessing from President Harris as she signed into law HR911 that grants citizenship to all families of those who proudly served this nation 4 years ago from Biden’s emergency EO. President Harris spoke that these new soldiers have been doing a great job rounding up white supremacy in the US as incarceration of white Americans has skyrocketed 326% as they have been plagued by high job turnaround, drug abuse and discrimination in the workplace.” |
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Quoted: That organization seems like it has a decent mission, but I don’t know enough to comment intelligently. That said, I don’t think trying to meet a recruiting shortfall by focusing more resources on 13% of the population is going to work. Apparently colleges having trouble as well https://www.npr.org/2022/05/10/1097855295/lincoln-college-closes-157-years-covid-cyberattackAttached File |
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Quoted: Apparently colleges having trouble as well https://www.npr.org/2022/05/10/1097855295/lincoln-college-closes-157-years-covid-cyberattackhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/2DFEEF8D-9978-4FA7-B0CC-9BADE1BD2E00_jpe-2379161.JPG Quoted: Quoted: That organization seems like it has a decent mission, but I don’t know enough to comment intelligently. That said, I don’t think trying to meet a recruiting shortfall by focusing more resources on 13% of the population is going to work. Apparently colleges having trouble as well https://www.npr.org/2022/05/10/1097855295/lincoln-college-closes-157-years-covid-cyberattackhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/2DFEEF8D-9978-4FA7-B0CC-9BADE1BD2E00_jpe-2379161.JPG It's almost like basing our institutions and movements around irrational ideas that aren't true (the idea there are multiple human races) fails. |
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Quoted: It's almost like basing our institutions and movements around irrational ideas that aren't true (the idea there are multiple human races) fails. To be fair, it’s not just worthless degrees that don’t land jobs but incur debt. It’s also our declining birth rates too. Which are about to impact the labor market after those born in 2007 leave military & college age and are followed by the Great Recession kids. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2021/08/02/number-colleges-shrinks-again-including-publics-and-private-nonprofitsAttached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: To fight in ww3 against Russia and China Quoted: Quoted: why would I want to join the military? To fight in ww3 against Russia and China You mean the war it looks like we are going to start in a place and time not of our choosing, not on strategically or tactically good grounds, and with a good chance of canned sunshine being involved because some or all of the combatant's leadership are delusional if not senile and demented? Also in service to the cronyism of the military suppliers? Our leaders are not making it easy to be in the military. |
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Quoted: To be fair, it’s not just worthless degrees that don’t land jobs but incur debt. It’s also our declining birth rates too. Which are about to impact the labor market after those born in 2007 leave military & college age and are followed by the Great Recession kids. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2021/08/02/number-colleges-shrinks-again-including-publics-and-private-nonprofitshttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/675AC6A6-73E3-4DDB-A677-4B59F8D64B97_png-2379186.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5B29E640-58CF-4387-8F5B-0F77A7C8B4BE_png-2379187.JPG Quoted: Quoted: It's almost like basing our institutions and movements around irrational ideas that aren't true (the idea there are multiple human races) fails. To be fair, it’s not just worthless degrees that don’t land jobs but incur debt. It’s also our declining birth rates too. Which are about to impact the labor market after those born in 2007 leave military & college age and are followed by the Great Recession kids. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2021/08/02/number-colleges-shrinks-again-including-publics-and-private-nonprofitshttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/675AC6A6-73E3-4DDB-A677-4B59F8D64B97_png-2379186.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5B29E640-58CF-4387-8F5B-0F77A7C8B4BE_png-2379187.JPG I wonder if that top chart is just us citizens or includes national trespassers (IIRC the only reason we are not listed among the bottom rungs of the birth rate brackets). |
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Quoted: I wonder if that top chart is just us citizens or includes national trespassers (IIRC the only reason we are not listed among the bottom rungs of the birth rate brackets). 2007 is the only year after millennials were born that reached 4 million without births to illegals pushing it to 4 million or more since 1993 despite the population growing every decade until 2020 census Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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The 20-30% qualified figure has been thrown around before and after every American war since WW2. Besides, a high end modern military needs fewer people than ever before, and America is uniquely situated to economize on mass. The risk is in adulterating the quality. |
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The shit show in Afghanistan probably didn't help out any. That shed a huge ass spotlight on incompetent leadership. Let's go fight a 20+ year war with no real goal. Then all of a sudden it's "Last one out turn off the lights". Marines getting killed by suicide bomber that had been warned about but hey whatever. Lots of kids saw that and probably thought to themselves "That's not going to be me". Plus if you don't toe the party line on diversity and inclusion the chances of you getting promoted are probably slim these days. |
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Guess the most I sufferable one of that lot. |
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Quoted: The genetic distance between some human races is actually farther than between some animal species. Quoted: Quoted: It's almost like basing our institutions and movements around irrational ideas that aren't true (the idea there are multiple human races) fails. The genetic distance between some human races is actually farther than between some animal species. And? Do you expect me to buy the old saw that you can find the truth by means of the scientific process? That's shot through with logic fails. You've got to be ignorant or massively hidebound to believe that the process can make a truth known. Happy to point out the logic fails, pm or another thread, if you want. |
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Quoted: 2007 is the only year after millennials were born that reached 4 million without births to illegals pushing it to 4 million or more since 1993 despite the population growing every decade until 2020 census https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/AEB734BB-2CA9-419B-A275-8D61D8EC471E_jpe-2379202.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/9CD69415-2E50-4F92-887E-8D92C791BCF6_jpe-2379209.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/62D4DCC7-0607-4572-89BA-16A0F3DA88DA_jpe-2379210.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/DA2E5ED7-8AA5-4749-BDAC-41A86B20E817_jpe-2379211.JPG Quoted: Quoted: I wonder if that top chart is just us citizens or includes national trespassers (IIRC the only reason we are not listed among the bottom rungs of the birth rate brackets). 2007 is the only year after millennials were born that reached 4 million without births to illegals pushing it to 4 million or more since 1993 despite the population growing every decade until 2020 census https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/AEB734BB-2CA9-419B-A275-8D61D8EC471E_jpe-2379202.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/9CD69415-2E50-4F92-887E-8D92C791BCF6_jpe-2379209.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/62D4DCC7-0607-4572-89BA-16A0F3DA88DA_jpe-2379210.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/DA2E5ED7-8AA5-4749-BDAC-41A86B20E817_jpe-2379211.JPG Hnh. 2007 made me think of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_(1st_generation) The iPhone (also known as the iPhone 2G,[9] iPhone 1[10] or original iPhone[9]) is the first iPhone model and the first smartphone designed and marketed by Apple Inc. After years of rumors and speculation, it was officially announced on January 9, 2007,[11] and was released in the United States on June 29, 2007. Everyone too busy staring that the screen to have relationships "in meatspace." Girls can't even look you in the face anymore, and when you get a group of them sitting together, they won't talk to each other, won't even look at each other. Nope, neck in the permanent bend down and flying thumbs. Girls avoiding emotional content in relationships - absolutely surreal and unnatural. Easier to get the attention of boys online than offline, and I bet they think it's safer too.  The boys? Like it needs to be said. 2 clicks from any type of porn in the world. And when not doing that, on massively addicting F2P games. The internet reaching ubiquity in the middle to late 1990s had some really bad effects, but the smartphone is causing far worse problems. Technology is always a faustian deal and hard to use for the good. |
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Quoted: Hnh. 2007 made me think of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_(1st_generation) The iPhone (also known as the iPhone 2G,[9] iPhone 1[10] or original iPhone[9]) is the first iPhone model and the first smartphone designed and marketed by Apple Inc. After years of rumors and speculation, it was officially announced on January 9, 2007,[11] and was released in the United States on June 29, 2007. Everyone too busy staring that the screen to have relationships "in meatspace." Girls can't even look you in the face anymore, and when you get a group of them sitting together, they won't talk to each other, won't even look at each other. Nope, neck in the permanent bend down and flying thumbs. Girls avoiding emotional content in relationships - absolutely surreal and unnatural. The boys? Like it needs to be said. 2 clicks from any type of porn in the world. And when not doing that, on massively addicting F2P games. The internet reaching ubiquity in the middle to late 1990s had some really bad effects, but the smartphone is causing far worse problems. Technology is always a faustian deal and hard to use for the good. The Great Recession + cultural issues = not ideal for creating families. 2008-2016 and we’re back in it 2021-2022 so 4 years respite over the last 14 years with talk of the possibility of another recession in 2023. So now everyone is focusing on family life at age 40 and older but that’s tough to have more than 1 kid after 45 years old for women generally speaking. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/05/19/childbearing-why-women-40-s-having-more-babies/624028002/Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: What’s that called? Poetic? Ironic? Millennial? Quoted: Quoted: I was waiting in a long checkout line at a garden store yesterday. There were lots of boomer women buying flowers for the fronts steps and other stuff, and the line kept getting longer and longer because there was only one cashier: an elderly senior citizen. She did a good job keeping things moving as fast as she could, but it was a losing battle. It was quite an image: store packed full of customers, a bunch of empty cash register stations, and just one older cashier. What’s that called? Poetic? Ironic? Millennial? Describing a truth, and doing so in the form of storytelling. |
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Quoted: Biden in the near future… “Our military enrollment numbers are dangerously low. I just spoke to the Pentagon and they gave me a dire warning for America, they said we need more soldiers protecting democracy than ever before. So as Commander in Chief of the armed forces and because of a deadlocked Congress, I just signed an emergency EO granting emergency citizenship to all illegal alien males 18-25. We need to think about the future of America and that future is now!” News headline in 4 years, “Recently admitted illegals into the military program got a blessing from President Harris as she signed into law HR911 that grants citizenship to all families of those who proudly served this nation 4 years ago from Biden’s emergency EO. President Harris spoke that these new soldiers have been doing a great job rounding up white supremacy in the US as incarceration of white Americans has skyrocketed 326% as they have been plagued by high job turnaround, drug abuse and discrimination in the workplace.” Probably will happen. Fwiw, There was a Citizenship through service program since the late 80’s. My unit had some Mexicans. Hard workers. White boys and Mexicans did a lot of details, moved a lot of heavy gear… |
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Quoted: Can you imagine being in a life or death situation where your leader is a diversity hire black lesbian?  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/132893/Military_jpg-2378968.JPG Unfortunately, yes. Just did an NTC rotation with an active duty brigade. Putting in my retirement packet this weekend. It was far worse than I imagined. |
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I hit 20 years of Army service on Saturday. My 17 year old son wants to continue the family tradition of service. I told him I would not support him joining the Army. Air Force maybe, but the woke agenda, horrendous leadership, high op tempo, and horrible maintenance make the Army ready to collapse on itself. I wouldn’t start over today. |
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Quoted: I wonder if GD will decide it’s cool to be patriotic again after DeSantis wins in 2024. Realistically to stop the forever wars and USA as the policeman of the world we'd have to get rid of the whole military-industrial-consulting-government mess, and rein in the things the president is allowed to do re: virtual war powers. |
