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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:46:07 PM EST
[#1]
Mitary-industrial complex has been lying about the strength and ability of the Russian military for the last 50 years to sell more stuff.
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:46:23 PM EST
[#2]
Russia military not as good as expected. Western intelligence and weapons assistance better than expected. Result: prolonged war, more death, more profit (financially and politically) for the globalist warmongers. Cost: lots of unnecessary death, misery, and added potential for energy and food shortages to further the globalist agenda. Evil at play all around.
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:47:14 PM EST
[#3]
The Ukranians have performed much better than anyone thought, but the only reason they're a sovereign nation at this point is because the world has given them an insane amount of aid.
And for the record, I'm ok with my tax dollars going to this. It's a bargain to neuter Russia, who absolutely needs its teeth kicked in. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:47:17 PM EST
[#4]
Vodka and the disappearance of the commissar.
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:47:25 PM EST
[#5]
Russian restraint.
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:47:55 PM EST
[#6]
So fucking derp op. Do better.
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:48:46 PM EST
[#7]
How did Afghanistan hold us off for 20 years? |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:49:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia military not as good as expected. Western intelligence and weapons assistance better than expected. Result: prolonged war, more death, more profit (financially and politically) for the globalist warmongers. Cost: lots of unnecessary death, misery, and added potential for energy and food shortages to further the globalist agenda. Evil at play all around. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:49:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How did Afghanistan hold us off for 20 years? They certainly did not we went where we pleased. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:49:57 PM EST
[#10]
You know exactly what you are allowed to know.
What answers would you like to squeeze out of this situation? |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:50:24 PM EST
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:50:43 PM EST
[#12]
Because they're making genetically altered super soldiers in bio labs.
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:51:26 PM EST
[#13]
It's going about as expected. It's effectively a stalemate that Ukraine will eventually lose if Russia wants it bad enough. The West will find a new shiny trinket to play with and Ukraine will sign a cease fire ceding territory when the aide dries up.
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:52:57 PM EST
[#14]
Russia has junk poorly maintained equipment, fetal alcohol syndrome conscripts. Ukraine has western weapons and "advisors" and first world educated troops
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:53:13 PM EST
[#15]
Proxy war. Without US military aid Ukraine would have folded long ago.
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:55:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How did Afghanistan hold us off for 20 years? Did we roll artillery and knock down each city grid by grid square? |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:55:25 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How did Afghanistan hold us off for 20 years? |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:56:18 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They certainly did not we went where we pleased. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How did Afghanistan hold us off for 20 years? They certainly did not we went where we pleased. Same as Vietnam. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:56:20 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia has junk poorly maintained equipment, fetal alcohol syndrome conscripts. Ukraine has western weapons and "advisors" and first world educated troops Yea. Probably 8 out of 10 guys on the ground are "advising" the other two. lol |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 8:58:26 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean, Russia could have just not invaded. The only thing prolonging the war is Russian aggression. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Russia military not as good as expected. Western intelligence and weapons assistance better than expected. Result: prolonged war, more death, more profit (financially and politically) for the globalist warmongers. Cost: lots of unnecessary death, misery, and added potential for energy and food shortages to further the globalist agenda. Evil at play all around. Yep this one simple trick your Russian bot farm hates. I myself am more curious how it feels for a US 2A supporter to stand shoulder to shoulder with Best Korea, Iran, Communist Cuba, Communist Venezuela, Syria, China, Myanmar and shitholes I forgot to mention |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:02:34 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Proxy war. Without US military aid Ukraine would have folded long ago. Bingo and Ukraine would’ve lost fewer lives and much less property damage. The US is going to destroy Ukraine in its quest to secure oil contracts, launder money and annoy Russia. Basically pirate shit. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:02:50 PM EST
[#22]
any video online in the past 20 years of average russians being russian answers the question
not that ukraine is any better. they just have our tax dollars to throw at russia till they drown in it |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:03:03 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Russian restraint. More than half of all the Russians who have stepped foot in Ukraine since February have become casualties. That’s impressive restraint. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:05:28 PM EST
[#24]
Unwillingness to do the needful.
Same as us in Afghanistan, Vietnam etc Or Russia sucks ass, I'm not exactly sure cause I don't think we're getting accurate news |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:05:31 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How did Afghanistan hold us off for 20 years? Religion |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:09:50 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bingo and Ukraine would’ve lost fewer lives and much less property damage. The US is going to destroy Ukraine in its quest to secure oil contracts, launder money and annoy Russia. Basically pirate shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Proxy war. Without US military aid Ukraine would have folded long ago. Bingo and Ukraine would’ve lost fewer lives and much less property damage. The US is going to destroy Ukraine in its quest to secure oil contracts, launder money and annoy Russia. Basically pirate shit. Let them fuck me in the ass if I don't resist, it will be less painful. Really ? |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:11:05 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's going about as expected. It's effectively a stalemate that Ukraine will eventually lose if Russia wants it bad enough. The West will find a new shiny trinket to play with and Ukraine will sign a cease fire ceding territory when the aide dries up. When? |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:12:18 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Same as Vietnam. We weren't beaten in the field there either. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:13:20 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bingo and Ukraine would’ve lost fewer lives and much less property damage. The US is going to destroy Ukraine in its quest to secure oil contracts, launder money and annoy Russia. Basically pirate shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Proxy war. Without US military aid Ukraine would have folded long ago. Bingo and Ukraine would’ve lost fewer lives and much less property damage. The US is going to destroy Ukraine in its quest to secure oil contracts, launder money and annoy Russia. Basically pirate shit. Wow that's some looney shit or my sarcasm meter is broken? First sentence is one of the standard Russian talking points, yet not invading is never brought as the easiest way to prevent damage 
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:13:46 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bingo and Ukraine would’ve lost fewer lives and much less property damage. The US is going to destroy Ukraine in its quest to secure oil contracts, launder money and annoy Russia. Basically pirate shit. Russia is in Ukraine killing their people and we are the pirates? |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:14:13 PM EST
[#31]
Russia is holding Russia back
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:15:59 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We weren't beaten in the field there either. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Same as Vietnam. We weren't beaten in the field there either. I know this, it was a lack of communication on somebody's end in this thread. Probably mine. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:16:54 PM EST
[#33]
Quoted: Russia/USSR has been wildly held as within the top 3 most powerful militaries in the world for the last 50 years. What the hell happened? Theyre getting a lot of help. And they saw the writing on the wall from the last invasion during the obama admin. Preperation and lots of arms side deals. But honestly, russia already won. All they have to do is sit and squat now for their to be an East and West Ukraine. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:17:32 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Russian restraint. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:19:12 PM EST
[#35]
Russia has never been good at offense, only defense when their survival is at stake. Even then generals have to point guns at their men to fight.
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:19:17 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Theyre getting a lot of help. And they saw the writing on the wall from the last invasion during the obama admin. Preperation and lots of arms side deals. But honestly, russia already won. All they have to do is sit and squat now for their to be an East and West Ukraine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Russia/USSR has been wildly held as within the top 3 most powerful militaries in the world for the last 50 years. What the hell happened? Theyre getting a lot of help. And they saw the writing on the wall from the last invasion during the obama admin. Preperation and lots of arms side deals. But honestly, russia already won. All they have to do is sit and squat now for their to be an East and West Ukraine. Who's getting a lot of help ? |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:21:10 PM EST
[#37]
If Obama doesn't convince Ukraine to give their nukes up, Russia stays home. Instead, he tells them that Murica has your back and they hand them over to Vlad.
As far as your question, its a combination of all the answers given:
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:21:57 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia is holding Russia back Pretty sure having VDV, Wagner Group, and Chechen SOF units getting chewed up isn't "holding back." |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:21:57 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Theyre getting a lot of help. And they saw the writing on the wall from the last invasion during the obama admin. Preperation and lots of arms side deals. But honestly, russia already won. All they have to do is sit and squat now for their to be an East and West Ukraine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Russia/USSR has been wildly held as within the top 3 most powerful militaries in the world for the last 50 years. What the hell happened? Theyre getting a lot of help. And they saw the writing on the wall from the last invasion during the obama admin. Preperation and lots of arms side deals. But honestly, russia already won. All they have to do is sit and squat now for their to be an East and West Ukraine. Russia’s ground forces are no longer a threat to anyone. They been effectively destroyed. Sweden and Finland are joining NATO. That’s winning? |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:22:22 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia has never been good at offense, only defense when their survival is at stake. Even then generals have to point guns at their men to fight. I seem to remember months back you were sucking Russian dick. Did the taste spoil ? |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:23:32 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This 100%. I also don't believe Russia want's to control all of the Ukraine. Just the area's full of ethic Russian's that want to be part of Russia, and the areas with large natural gas deposits. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Russian restraint. How do you explain their attempt to take Kyiv, in which they lost thousands of personnel and vehicles? Please don't tell me you think it was just an elaborate feint... |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:23:48 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I seem to remember months back you were sucking Russian dick. Did the taste spoil ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Russia has never been good at offense, only defense when their survival is at stake. Even then generals have to point guns at their men to fight. I seem to remember months back you were sucking Russian dick. Did the taste spoil ?  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:26:28 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I seem to remember months back you were sucking Russian dick. Did the taste spoil ? LOL, seems like many losers on this site get emotionally invested in dumb things. I read the lack of pushback the first few days by UA as being soft, and admitted I was wrong when new data came in. Now show me where I touched you. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:27:07 PM EST
[#44]
How bout IDGAF about either country and believe 0 dollars should have been given to Ukraine. I guess OP is perfectly happy with huge percentages of the money we send over there going to graft and outright theft. I swear you morale high ground people are soooooo fucking gullible.
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:27:32 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bingo and Ukraine would've lost fewer lives and much less property damage. The US is going to destroy Ukraine in its quest to secure oil contracts, launder money and annoy Russia. Basically pirate shit.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:27:56 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They certainly did not we went where we pleased. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How did Afghanistan hold us off for 20 years? They certainly did not we went where we pleased. We may have bombed the shit out of Afghanistan, but at the end of the war the Taliban were still in charge and we were the ones retreating. Wars are not won by weapons or technology. They're won by whichever side wants it more. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:28:29 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, seems like many losers on this site get emotionally invested in dumb things. I read the lack of pushback the first few days by UA as being soft, and admitted I was wrong when new data came in. Now show me where I touched you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I seem to remember months back you were sucking Russian dick. Did the taste spoil ? LOL, seems like many losers on this site get emotionally invested in dumb things. I read the lack of pushback the first few days by UA as being soft, and admitted I was wrong when new data came in. Now show me where I touched you. Not only did you touch us, you blew us. Many of us. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:29:36 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not only did you touch us, you blew us. Many of us. Undoubtedly the most action you've seen since Gorbachev 
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:29:59 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We weren't beaten in the field there either. That's who the real winner was. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 9:31:19 PM EST
[#50]
Will of Ukrainian people + western weapons and intel
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