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Posted: 2/4/2023 5:02:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pop left me a colt in 38S, he used it for bowling pin matches back in the early 80's. He was not a Mexican, and I am not a Mexican.   Attached File |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 5:05:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think they should have got a 10mm. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 5:09:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody knows WTF 9x23 is. 
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Posted: 2/4/2023 5:16:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hot ranger 127 +p+ is 1250-1275. My 38 super loads run 125 gold dots at 1400. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Knowledgeable on balistics? Maybe? But to honest, you need to step it up to 9X23 for me to think that. Otherwise just use a hot +P+ 9mm. Hot ranger 127 +p+ is 1250-1275. My 38 super loads run 125 gold dots at 1400. Based on that, do you think it would be worth the extra cost to have the .38 Super barrel I mentioned in an above post fitted to the 9mm 1911 I'm having built? I bought the barrel with the intention of having both fitted, but set the .38 Super one aside for now. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 5:23:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No it doesn't. It VAPORIZES the lungs and sends them into subdimensional vacuum space. I have a commander size and a 6" 1911 in 38 Super set up to shoot my open gun loads. Not to mention all my open guns. 38 Super is a great round if your gunsmith knows how to set it up to run 100%. Closely related are the rimless .38 McLearn (aka SuperComp but I give credit where it's due), .38 TJ, and 9x23 Win. When the pistols are built and timed properly, we can load 124gr at 1500fps and 115gr a lot faster than that without tearing up guns. Of course, nowadays I'd just do a 357SIG for a carry gun. Or 9x25 which is my next back burner project. Already have dies and barrel for G20. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: “Lol, it doesn’t blow the lungs straight out” No it doesn't. It VAPORIZES the lungs and sends them into subdimensional vacuum space. I have a commander size and a 6" 1911 in 38 Super set up to shoot my open gun loads. Not to mention all my open guns. 38 Super is a great round if your gunsmith knows how to set it up to run 100%. Closely related are the rimless .38 McLearn (aka SuperComp but I give credit where it's due), .38 TJ, and 9x23 Win. When the pistols are built and timed properly, we can load 124gr at 1500fps and 115gr a lot faster than that without tearing up guns. Of course, nowadays I'd just do a 357SIG for a carry gun. Or 9x25 which is my next back burner project. Already have dies and barrel for G20. See this is the problem with 1911s in general. Maybe until the more modern ones. But the old Colts are shit. "Your gunsmith knows how to set it up to run 100%" "When the pistols are built and timed properly" This on a pistol that probably cost you over a grand for 7 or 8 shots. A few more in .38 Super I guess. .38 Super is a great round 1911 can be a very capable platform. But for decades everyone accepted shitty Colt build quality. Oh, they look good, but they are finicky and need attention just to do the job you (vastly over)paid it to do. I prefer my pistols to have the following setup and tuning requirements: Open box. Insert bullets. Commence to whooping some ass (or paper, most likely) |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 5:24:51 PM EDT
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38 super is to 9mm like 10mm is to 40 S&W
But really... collect them all |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 5:56:53 PM EDT
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I want one of these in 38 Super. There was one locally, but chambered in 10mm. Theoretically, they exist, but actually finding one or parts like replacement barrels, is a PIA.
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Posted: 2/4/2023 6:10:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Though, it's not great to suppress...well, I guess you could load 147s or 158s in it.. I've shot some 158gr XTP and was getting about 1150-1175fps IIRC. 165gr and 180gr bullets exist, so those are options too. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 9:07:44 PM EDT
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Mexican cowboy.
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Posted: 2/4/2023 9:13:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2023 9:17:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2023 9:18:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what the hell? Quote HistoryQuoted: what the hell? 
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Posted: 2/4/2023 11:15:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @DH243 Based on that, do you think it would be worth the extra cost to have the .38 Super barrel I mentioned in an above post fitted to the 9mm 1911 I'm having built? I bought the barrel with the intention of having both fitted, but set the .38 Super one aside for now. I say yes. Building up a dlc/stainless 2 tone commander 38super on jem frame and slide. I got the last 38super barrelade by wilson combat, internals are all egw/ed brown/wilson/Harrison, about 850.00 in parts plus another 875 in frame/slide. I'm thinking about getting a wilson or kart 9mm barrel for when my wife or child want to shoot it. Keep in mind, you may have to shorten your ejector to eject loaded 38super rds, but it will still work fine with 9mm. My range loads for 38super are 124 fmj@1300, well over 9mm +p+. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 11:36:58 PM EDT
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Cool, thanks for the info.
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Posted: 2/4/2023 11:49:38 PM EDT
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Mexicans can't own or legally buy any caliber used by some military.
So 38 Super became popular there many yrs ago, and Colt made 1911s apparently to fill that niche. There's a lot of Mexicans here in Eastern WA cuz Ag n... now cartel drug hi way. So the local shop ALWAYs has lots of really nice 38 Super Colt 1911s. For many years it's been like this, many QUITE expensive. I like Colt 1911s. So I watch them. I see that they sell and are replaced. Frequently. Finally I ask guy:.. "Who buys these?!" He says always straw purchase by barely legal Mexican, who they know sells to someone else, then it's smuggled south of the border to sell to Cartel workers with money. He says ATF knows it and comes in to check but... legal business is legal business so they just keep selling em.  .     https://shopcoltfirearms.com/colt-rose-gold-mexican-heritage-38-super-limited-edition-1-of-429/ |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 2:02:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which part? |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 2:15:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Which part? |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 2:20:49 PM EDT
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Love my 1974 Govt .38 Super-- the damn thing shoots flat enough for the kids to easily keep it on a tin can out to 40-50 yds, which helps their sense of confidence, and it kicks less than the .45. Only thing I would change would to be to get rid of the half-rim on the cartridge, it causes some awkward feed stoppages now and then.
When I had my gun shop a couple decades back, the first Spanish I ended up learning was "No tengo el trenta-y-ocho sooPAIR" and "No tengo el mitraillador" --welcome to Tacoma |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 2:23:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which part? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: what the hell? |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 2:33:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mexicans can't own or legally buy any caliber used by some military. So 38 Super became popular there many yrs ago, and Colt made 1911s apparently to fill that niche. There's a lot of Mexicans here in Eastern WA cuz Ag n... now cartel drug hi way. So the local shop ALWAYs has lots of really nice 38 Super Colt 1911s. For many years it's been like this, many QUITE expensive. I like Colt 1911s. So I watch them. I see that they sell and are replaced. Frequently. Finally I ask guy:.. "Who buys these?!" He says always straw purchase by barely legal Mexican, who they know sells to someone else, then it's smuggled south of the border to sell to Cartel workers with money. He says ATF knows it and comes in to check but... legal business is legal business so they just keep selling em. . https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5283da60e4b00fa592e5cf07/1463434437928-3PP6LF9EQCISX4W88JMD/O2991MHE+left+hand+view.jpg?format=1000w https://images.gunsinternational.com/listings_sub/acc_71532/gi_101505663/Colt-38-Super-EL-OFICIAL-rare-Talo_101505663_71532_9E9CCBB0C0E41FAE.jpeg https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/278512909_133550392580590_6348775198443257458_n.jpg https://images.gunsinternational.com/listings_sub/acc_30771/gi_101399680/Custom-Hand-Engraved-Colt-1911-38-Super-Day-Of-The-Dead-Theme-Mexican-Gold-and-Platinum-inlays-Scrim_101399680_30771_5FF2924BE1BA7321.jpg https://shopcoltfirearms.com/colt-rose-gold-mexican-heritage-38-super-limited-edition-1-of-429/ All of those are beautiful guns. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 2:40:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Walmart clearanced WWB 38 super for $7/box a couple of years ago. It was glorious.. Yep!! |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 2:55:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm around firearms on a regular basis, I've handled 10s of thousands of them, and I've never seen a 9x23 firearm or cartridge in person. Ever. It's around. Sportsmans Warehouse near me has it, as does a friends stockpile, and I've seen it elsewhere. It should have been a thing. I would buy a half dozen G34s in that caliber if they made them in that size. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 4:49:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also by lawmen, so popular on both sides. For a while it offered the best penetration of American handguns. This ended with the introduction in 1935 of the .357 Magnum. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wasn't 38 Super preferred/used by some of the gangster of the late 1920s and 30s? Also by lawmen, so popular on both sides. For a while it offered the best penetration of American handguns. This ended with the introduction in 1935 of the .357 Magnum. Frank Hamer liked it a lot. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 4:50:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mexicans can't own or legally buy any caliber used by some military. So 38 Super became popular there many yrs ago, and Colt made 1911s apparently to fill that niche. There's a lot of Mexicans here in Eastern WA cuz Ag n... now cartel drug hi way. So the local shop ALWAYs has lots of really nice 38 Super Colt 1911s. For many years it's been like this, many QUITE expensive. I like Colt 1911s. So I watch them. I see that they sell and are replaced. Frequently. Finally I ask guy:.. "Who buys these?!" He says always straw purchase by barely legal Mexican, who they know sells to someone else, then it's smuggled south of the border to sell to Cartel workers with money. He says ATF knows it and comes in to check but... legal business is legal business so they just keep selling em. . https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5283da60e4b00fa592e5cf07/1463434437928-3PP6LF9EQCISX4W88JMD/O2991MHE+left+hand+view.jpg?format=1000w https://images.gunsinternational.com/listings_sub/acc_71532/gi_101505663/Colt-38-Super-EL-OFICIAL-rare-Talo_101505663_71532_9E9CCBB0C0E41FAE.jpeg https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/278512909_133550392580590_6348775198443257458_n.jpg https://images.gunsinternational.com/listings_sub/acc_30771/gi_101399680/Custom-Hand-Engraved-Colt-1911-38-Super-Day-Of-The-Dead-Theme-Mexican-Gold-and-Platinum-inlays-Scrim_101399680_30771_5FF2924BE1BA7321.jpg https://shopcoltfirearms.com/colt-rose-gold-mexican-heritage-38-super-limited-edition-1-of-429/ wow. beautiful art work. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 4:56:01 PM EDT
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I want a BHP in .38 Super.....
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Posted: 2/5/2023 5:08:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think wonderfully under appreciated, perfectly pleasant, nostalgic and to many forgotten. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/490499/CD915799-38C6-44A4-B187-55496D4C9842_jpe-2694094.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/490499/C4CDCA52-3640-4EA2-84C4-5AC20D748348_jpe-2694095.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/490499/FDB1959C-D324-41CA-AB46-033C2E8D6C79_jpe-2694098.JPG ETA: removed the one with load data Nice Peterson |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 5:25:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BarSto G19 barrel in .38 Super, P80 frame modded to work with Witness mags, and a S&W revolver rear sight. I'll probably rebuild it on a Strike frame at some point so I can use Para mags. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 5:42:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want a BHP in .38 Super..... |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 5:53:28 PM EDT
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Same reaction I have when someone tells me they carry .45 AARP.
> Do you use beeswax lubed hardcast, or just paper patch a musket ball in your reloads? |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 5:56:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mejicano  FPNI Has to have pearl grips too |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 6:01:17 PM EDT
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Dad carried a Sig 220 in 38 Super when he was a cop. I'll inherit it some day but I'm in no rush.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 6:04:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want a 1911 in Super 38. I'll add on scrimshawed grips with a Mexicana with huge tits. With a Mexican 1oz peso silver coin |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 6:19:16 PM EDT
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I'd rock a hard chrome .38 super all day every day if I had one.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 6:22:40 PM EDT
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 Attached FileMy late grandfather’s .38 Super 1911. I shot it many times in childhood during visits and always had my eye on it when it came to being passed down. My mom and aunts were in the process of downsizing his things as his dementia got worse and worse, and I was able to snag this pistol plus a beautiful Colt Police Positive Special purchased by my great grandfather in the 30s (complete with the receipt still in the box) and my great grandfather’s Browning Superposed. They also had me distribute the rest of his guns among my cousins, but getting those three was a real treat.  Attached File Attached FileI sure do miss you and Gran, Papa. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 6:41:31 PM EDT
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My grandfather had a Colt
 1911 in .38 Super. My grandmother gave it away when he died
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Posted: 2/5/2023 6:43:22 PM EDT
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More ghey than the 357SIG
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Posted: 2/5/2023 6:46:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice Peterson Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think wonderfully under appreciated, perfectly pleasant, nostalgic and to many forgotten. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/490499/CD915799-38C6-44A4-B187-55496D4C9842_jpe-2694094.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/490499/C4CDCA52-3640-4EA2-84C4-5AC20D748348_jpe-2694095.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/490499/FDB1959C-D324-41CA-AB46-033C2E8D6C79_jpe-2694098.JPG ETA: removed the one with load data Nice Peterson Thank you it smokes nicely one of two system pipes I have. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 6:48:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dad carried an Sig 220 in 38 Super when he was a cop. I'll inherit it some day but I'm in no rush. I hope it’s a very long time. Very cool piece and extremely rare in the states not sure about elsewhere. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 9:05:59 PM EDT
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I have this M1991A1 38 Super, carried on duty for about two years. Hard chromed, Wilson trigger and hammer with beavertail and magwell with millet sights.
M1991A1 |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 9:09:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mejicano This, though it’s a great round. |
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