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Link Posted: 8/7/2022 9:02:18 PM EDT
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The Love Boat theme.  
Link Posted: 8/7/2022 9:04:08 PM EDT
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The Love Boat theme.  
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It's hilarious how much stuff works with it!
Link Posted: 8/7/2022 9:12:11 PM EDT
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The arm at the end really makes that one
Link Posted: 8/8/2022 9:26:15 PM EDT
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Amazon CRINGE! LOTR: The Rings of Power DESTROYED by Tolkien Fans
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 9:00:40 PM EDT
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This is going to be a DISASTER | D.O.A.
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 10:41:30 PM EDT
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I thought that goofy soap opera-type character intro was a fan made joke.  I just found out it was actually made by Amazon to promote the show.

Fuckin’ hell.
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 10:52:41 PM EDT
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Grandma did a thing on this trip one time..
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 12:49:57 PM EDT
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These people with their demented obsessions to gay all the things...

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Link Posted: 8/13/2022 10:55:32 AM EDT
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The Rings of Power is D.O.A. | Amazon's ABOMINATION using Tolkien as a Platform CONFIRMED
Link Posted: 8/13/2022 11:00:24 AM EDT
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So you’re saying there will be a scene where they flip out and raze the local tavern because there was a problem with their mead?
Link Posted: 8/13/2022 8:24:08 PM EDT
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This! THIS! 10000x THIS!

Woke Hollywood hates the Man-Child.


LOTR, Star Trek, Star Wars, Dr. Who, the list of victims of cultural vandalism goes on.

As he says, FUCK OFF!
Link Posted: 8/16/2022 3:06:33 PM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXIoEmyofoQ

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As he says,      OFF!
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They clearly do not want our money or our views. They're making stuff for themselves, and the stuff they are making shows them to mentally and emotionally be toddlers.
Link Posted: 8/16/2022 4:23:46 PM EDT
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Once you understand they're all spoiled children it makes sense.  

"I'm going to adapt Tolkien, but I'm going to make everyone gay intersex lesbian midget non-abled persons.  I'll be rich and all the SJW's will love me."

"You can't have both."

"Why not?  Studio said so.  They said whatever I make is Tolkien because they bought Tolkien."

"But people don't have to watch it."

"OMG.  You're so mean and racist!  I hate you!"  
Link Posted: 8/16/2022 4:54:55 PM EDT
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Once you understand they're all spoiled children it makes sense.  

"I'm going to adapt Tolkien, but I'm going to make everyone gay intersex lesbian midget non-abled persons.  I'll be rich and all the SJW's will love me."

"You can't have both."

"Why not?  Studio said so.  They said whatever I make is Tolkien because they bought Tolkien."

"But people don't have to watch it."

"OMG.  You're so mean and racist!  I hate you!"  
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They clearly do not want our money or our views. They're making stuff for themselves, and the stuff they are making shows them to mentally and emotionally be toddlers.
Once you understand they're all spoiled children it makes sense.  

"I'm going to adapt Tolkien, but I'm going to make everyone gay intersex lesbian midget non-abled persons.  I'll be rich and all the SJW's will love me."

"You can't have both."

"Why not?  Studio said so.  They said whatever I make is Tolkien because they bought Tolkien."

"But people don't have to watch it."

"OMG.  You're so mean and racist!  I hate you!"  

They don't live in reality. They make their own reality and truths because actual reality and actual truth have the inconvenient baggage of destroying their logic and world view. Now they take fictional IPs/universes and fuck those up because they are afforded the means to do so by the idiots in the entertainment industry that are mismanaging these IPs.
Link Posted: 8/16/2022 5:16:30 PM EDT
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They clearly do not want our money or our views. They're making stuff for themselves, and the stuff they are making shows them to mentally and emotionally be toddlers.
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This! THIS! 10000x THIS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXIoEmyofoQ

LOTR, Star Trek, Star Wars, Dr. Who, the list of victims of cultural vandalism goes on.

As he says,      OFF!

They clearly do not want our money or our views. They're making stuff for themselves, and the stuff they are making shows them to mentally and emotionally be toddlers.

Why Modern Movies Suck - They're Written By Children
Link Posted: 8/17/2022 1:43:29 AM EDT
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mE0IkYFu_Dvzw_KzJ4NNPbitTCLb1twe/view
Do not laugh! But once upon a time (my crest has long since fallen) I had a mind to make a body of more or less connected legend, ranging from the large and cosmogonic, to the level of romantic fairy-story-the larger founded on the lesser in contact with the earth, the lesser drawing splendour from the vast backcloths – which I could dedicate simply to: to England; to my country. It should possess the tone and quality that I desired, somewhat cool and clear, be redolent of our 'air' (the clime and soil of the North West, meaning Britain and the hither parts of Europe: not Italy or the Aegean, still less the East), and, while possessing (if I could achieve it) the fair elusive beauty that some call Celtic (though it is rarely found in genuine ancient Celtic things), it should be 'high', purged of the gross, and fit for the more adult mind of a land long now steeped in poetry. I would draw some of the great tales in fullness, and leave many only placed in the scheme, and sketched. The cycles should be linked to a majestic whole, and yet leave scope for other minds and hands, wielding paint and music and drama. Absurd.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/08/15/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-powers-morfydd-clark-admits-show-is-perversion-of-tolkiens-work-tells-critics-to-shut-the-f-up/



^^^ The instagram account of the actress playing "gladriel."

And right under it:



Anyone care to lay bets she says "oh no, I wasn't applying that to all of you, just this small group over here ... no no, we won't say who or what specifically..."

I forget, what's next after they call us racist for not liking rank narcissism and ignorance?

They have a few weeks left. How will they insult us next? My bingo card is worn out after so many years of the exact same game.



Link Posted: 8/17/2022 2:05:58 AM EDT
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These people with their demented obsessions to gay all the things...

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Must..insert..disgusting..pandering!

Get woke go broke.
Link Posted: 8/21/2022 7:39:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/21/2022 9:08:28 PM EDT
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This cultural appropriation is getting out of hand.
Link Posted: 8/21/2022 9:12:28 PM EDT
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At this point I can only hope Sauron and Morgoth raze Middle Earth
Link Posted: 8/23/2022 12:09:49 AM EDT
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Aragorn Is Now A Black Man & The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power Continues To Be Embarrassed
Link Posted: 8/23/2022 2:55:52 AM EDT
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If I was Elon Musk I would silently buy a major film studio company, silently buy up the rights to all kinds of media involving famous minority historical figures (MLK, Pocahontas, etc), have the people working at the studio cast white people (preferably albinos) for EVERY minority role, and then sit back and laugh at the mass triggering.

Link Posted: 8/23/2022 3:30:49 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/23/2022 3:53:07 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/23/2022 11:49:58 AM EDT
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LOL          new trailer                        
The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - Official Trailer
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Link Posted: 8/23/2022 12:25:48 PM EDT
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I like the part at 2:04 when Galadriel says "there is a tempest in me."  It's totally not a rip off of this movie (Skip to 1:15).

"I, Too, Can Command The Wind, Sir!" | Elizabeth The Golden Age | Screen Bites

Link Posted: 8/23/2022 5:20:53 PM EDT
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Feminem. Will the real Slim Lady please stand up!
Link Posted: 8/24/2022 11:33:54 PM EDT
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That only applies in one direction.

If you're not leftist enough, you can only steal culture. If you're leftist enough, you're golden.
Link Posted: 8/24/2022 11:39:17 PM EDT
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https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-lord-rings-power-billion-dollar-prequel-streaming-hollywood-2022-8?op=1

Amazon insiders say its $1 billion 'Lord of the Rings' series will determine the company's streaming future: 'If we can't make it successful, why is Amazon Studios even here?'
Elaine Low, Eugene Kim, and Alison Brower
Aug 23, 2022, 8:07 PM

   Amazon Studios spent an estimated $1 billion on its "Lord of the Rings" prequel, "The Rings of Power."
   How success will be measured by Amazon is hard to say, but recruiting Prime members is paramount.
   "If it's not the highest-performing thing Amazon has ever done, it's a failure," said one company insider.

Amazon is facing a moment of truth as it braces to premiere the $1 billion "Lord of the Rings" prequel series, "The Rings of Power," that will set its future course as a streamer.

Amazon Studios, founded in 2010, has made its mark with critical hits like "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel" as well as broader fare ("Jack Ryan," "The Boys"). But in the mid-'10s the tech giant's founder raised the stakes: Jeff Bezos wanted Amazon's own "Game of Thrones."

And, to put it in Tolkien terms, the company has not yet closed its fingers, Gollum-like, around its precious: a major watercooler show that lures global viewers en masse.

"There's no doubt that Amazon has had success," Rich Greenfield, media analyst at Lightshed Management, told Insider. "[But] they haven't had a culturally defining show. There has been no massive breakout where everyone is talking about it."

With "Rings of Power," Amazon has given Hollywood something to talk about. No single season of television has ever cost as much. On top of the $250 million deal to secure the rights from JRR Tolkien's estate in 2017 — Amazon outbid rival big spenders HBO and Netflix — it's been widely reported that the studio spent north of $460 million on production in New Zealand. Add tens of millions of dollars in marketing, promotions, and global red-carpet events and you arrive at the $1 billion total estimated by industry observers — with four more seasons planned.

The show is expected to be a hit, but if it somehow misses the mark, several sources told Insider the studio may face an existential crisis.

"The reason why it's going to succeed is because the executives at Amazon need it to succeed. If it doesn't succeed, there's going to be a big question from [CEO] Andy Jassy and the board," said one former senior Amazon Studios exec. "If we can't take this piece of IP and make it successful, why is Amazon Studios even here?"

"It has to succeed," this person added. "There's no option."
How Amazon measures success in streaming

Even within the studio, development and production of the series — a saga set millennia before the events of "Lord of the Rings" — have been kept close to the vest, according to two current company insiders. Word from those who've seen episodes is positive, and several industry insiders predicted to Insider that Amazon will find a way, regardless of actual viewership, to sound the trumpets of victory.

There's an art as well as a science to analytics, the former exec said, adding that Amazon data wonks, who typically know within the first week if a project is going to trend well, will be looking to spin "Rings" numbers into the sunniest possible story.

"If it's not the highest-performing thing Amazon has ever done, it's a failure," said a second former Amazon Studios insider. "But the outside world may not ever know."

Amazon, like other streamers, reveals very little audience data — even to its own creators. (Nielsen measures viewership of Amazon Prime Video and other streamers like Disney+, but only through TV sets, meaning it misses out on mobile and desktop views.) One former showrunner of a buzzy Amazon original said that hard viewership or membership growth numbers were never provided by studio execs, just the note that "We're very, very pleased."

"Then you have to read between the lines," this person added. A request to make the second season of a show just like the first one, for example, signals it performed well with viewers.

So what constitutes a triumph at Amazon Studios is hard to say, although recruiting new Prime members is always paramount. Picking up a few awards has also been part of the equation, as Bezos famously touted in 2016: "When we win a Golden Globe, it helps us sell more shoes." (The former Amazon exec said Hollywood kudos don't appear to be as high a priority for Jassy, who succeeded Bezos in July 2021.)

One internal measure for success is PVC, or Prime Video consumption — essentially, of all the streams on Amazon in a certain period, what percentage a particular project represents. This number should be high for "Rings" because the service won't premiere other content that might compete — "If I'm an employee at Amazon Studios, on any team, you need it to succeed," the first former exec said, adding that the company will "find every point of marketing they can leverage." Amazon this spring tapped former Warner Bros. Pictures marketing head Sue Kroll, who steered the campaign for Peter Jackson's "The Hobbit" trilogy, to oversee the marketing of "Rings." (Ukonwa Ojo, who spent just under two years as CMO for Amazon Studios and Prime Video, exited in June.)

The company also looks at how many new members a show attracts. With the US streaming market reaching saturation, there's more potential subscriber growth in other regions, which explains why Amazon threw splashy premieres not only in Los Angeles, with Bezos and Jassy in attendance, but also in Mexico City and Mumbai.

Other core measures include whether a show awakens 30-day dormant Prime members (who haven't streamed content in 30 days), the first former exec said, and what percentage of viewers complete the whole series.

Reuters reported in 2018 that the studio's internal metrics evaluated the cost of a series, viewership, and Prime membership growth to determine a key measurement: cost per first stream. The lower that cost, the more efficient — and valuable — the show. Cost per first stream remains a key metric, especially among top leadership, the first former exec said, and that number is likely to be "astronomical" for "Rings" even if audiences flock to it.
Filmed entertainment was 'a plaything' for Amazon — until it decided to become a Hollywood player

Amazon Studios didn't always have such grand ambitions. "It started as a small thing, a plaything, born out of general disdain for Hollywood," the second former insider said. "It was born out of a very Seattle, very tech-company mentality that 'Hollywood is stupid and bloated and we're smart and lean and data-driven. If it fails, it's not a meaningful amount of money to us anyhow.'"

But "House of Cards," the 2013 show that put Netflix on the map as a destination for original programming, prompted Amazon to rethink its studio business and its attitude toward Hollywood, this person said. The company began scaling up content budgets and ambitions, moving away from "indie, quirky, coastal" fare, as the first former exec described it, and hiring former Fox International Studios head Sharon Tal Yguado in 2017 to oversee the hunt for Bezos' "Game of Thrones."

"The Rings of Power" landed at Amazon because of Bezos' broad enthusiasm for a global tentpole and his specific desire for this one. And his top leadership, the group known internally as the S-team, lined up behind it. At an internal all-hands in 2019, per a recording leaked to Insider, Jeff Blackburn — who left the company in early 2021 only to boomerang back within months as SVP of Global Media and Entertainment — was rhapsodic about the project and its Hollywood bona fides, calling it a "premium, huge tentpole."

"Story begins with character," Blackburn said on the 2019 recording. "The writing team in the writers room for 'Lord of the Rings' is absolutely the dream team of writers in Hollywood right now. I've been down there, Jeff [Bezos] met them, they are incredible, they come from 'Star Trek Beyond' and 'Westworld' and 'Game of Thrones' and 'Breaking Bad.' These folks have done it before, and they're taking this vast story in Middle Earth, and they're building something really incredible."

For Amazon Studios chief Jennifer Salke, who joined the company in 2019, Bezos' "desire to be ambitious — ?and for us to be ambitious with our content — has always been clear from the moment I got here," she told Vanity Fair in February. "['Rings'] fit perfectly with that big ambition, to take on something that would require the whole company working together to execute."

"I hope we do Tolkien's work justice," Bezos told Time magazine in an email. "It goes beyond making a commercially successful show."

But Bezos isn't running day-to-day operations at Amazon anymore. "How is Andy [Jassy] now going to measure the success and value of the investment they've made when the IP wasn't acquired to please him in the same way?" the second former insider asked. "They took this enormous swing for a certain master who's gone now."

Given the significance and complexity of the project, said a third former Amazon Studios employee, setting up "Rings of Power" for success is akin to "launching a rocket."  

As if to illustrate the point, the LA premiere featured an army of drones depicting images from the series — as well as the Prime Video logo — in the night sky.
How Prime Video affects Amazon's bottom line, even if a $1 billion project doesn't

Amazon won't suffer a heavy blow to the balance sheet if "Rings of Power" isn't a juggernaut. A company with a $1.4 trillion dollar market cap, it spent a cool $8.5 billion to acquire MGM earlier this year, pointing to longer-term ambitions in entertainment.

But Amazon Studios will take an ego hit if Tolkien's elves can't help the division meet its viewership and subscriber expectations, whatever those may be. Salke is about to hit her five-year anniversary as Amazon Studios chief. Neither she nor her boss — Mike Hopkins, SVP of Prime Video and Amazon Studios — were at the company for the project's inception, but Salke has overseen its execution.

"I think Jen's position there is very, very secure but all the senior leaders are probably not sleeping well right now," said the second former insider. "It's a high-stakes moment for them."

On Amazon's most recent earnings call, leadership digital content consumption is projected to rise this quarter, largely thanks to "Rings" and "Thursday Night Football," which the streamer will air exclusively for the first time starting September 15. Earlier this year, the company hiked annual Prime membership fees by $20 — to $139 a year — so any new members will bring a meatier boost to the bottom line. According to a Morgan Stanley survey, Prime Video is the second most-cited reason that people sign up for Prime (58%), after two-day shipping (73%).



"It feels to me like this has the potential to be something that actually drives gross adds — meaning people come to Prime or sign up for Prime to get to 'Lord of the Rings' — because of the scale of this production," said Greenfield.

And if awakening a dormant viewer also means activating a dormant shopper, there's potentially more revenue to be gained from current members. "I think there's still a lot of people who don't regularly use Prime [Video] who may have it," Greenfield said. "I don't think Prime is where people start their evening, the way they do Netflix … Between ['Rings'] and Thursday Night Football, these are two huge properties to get people who may already have Prime to start using it more regularly."
Why a win for 'Rings of Power' won't lead to more big, spendy series

No matter how well "Rings" works for Amazon, don't look for another entertainment company to make a 10-figure bet on a single streaming project anytime soon. Margins are slim enough; Disney, for one, recorded a loss of $1.1 billion related to streaming expenses in its most recently reported quarter.

"We've already been living in this distorted entertainment environment where everybody's a winner and nobody makes money," said the second former Amazon Studios insider. "Amazon and Apple [studio divisions] are not independently financially accountable … Disney+ is a loss leader, Peacock is a loss leader, Paramount+ is a loss leader. That's happening without everyone making a bunch of 'Lord of the Rings,' and they're already feeling the strain."

"I don't think anybody can sustain a heartbeat where 'Lord of the Rings' or 'House of the Dragon' are the new normal," this person added. "There's no business in that."

Do you work at Amazon Studios? Got a tip?
Contact reporters Elaine Low via email ([email protected]) or Eugene Kim via the encrypted-messaging apps Signal or Telegram (+1-650-942-3061) or email ([email protected]).
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My reply to amazon's streaming services existing or not:



If you lot are so bigoted and stupid that you think you can do better than Tolkien, you shouldn't be in the business. Go dig ditches.

The show is expected to be a hit, but if it somehow misses the mark, several sources told Insider the studio may face an existential crisis.


I can't see how they could think this. If they were being honest with the dislike count on the original video AND all the dislikes were true, and not bots, if you add them all up, it would be OVER 5 million dislikes, to 130k likes ... out of 31 million views.
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In that vein, thinking about it, if Amazon Studios cancelled the Grand Tour studio format to free up budget for this dumpster fire, I will be doubly pissed. They had a sure thing with a massive worldwide audience built in by bringing the Top Gear crew over and continuing that show in the same format it was, which they largely had. Why dump a sure thing just to burn money on a failure like this?

ETA: And they have to know what massive successes Reacher, Terminal List, and yes even The Boys (though undoubtedly to a much lesser degree since they've fucked that up and pissed off fans) have been. This isn't hard to figure out.
Link Posted: 8/25/2022 2:09:00 PM EDT
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Why are Asians always excluded when they race swap characters?
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Because Asians are "white adjacent".

No, I'm not kidding.

https://medium.com/projectinclude/we-need-to-talk-about-what-it-means-to-be-white-adjacent-in-tech-f91fbcce7a42
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It's not just Asians.  90% of the time it's always one white person swapped to one black person.
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In major cinema (independent films and films pretty much no one has even heard of don't count) this century can y'all recall ANY significant black characters in the source material that were race swapped for whites or a significant female character in the source material that was gender swapped for a male?

Any at all?
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In major cinema (independent films and films pretty much no one has even heard of don't count) this century can y'all recall ANY significant black characters in the source material that were race swapped for whites or a significant female character in the source material that was gender swapped for a male?

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Battlestar Galactica had two.  Boomer was a black Viper pilot in the original and became a female Asian Raptor pilot in the remake.  Colonel Tigh was black in the original and was white in the remake.  I think the only reason they got away with it was because everyone was focused on Starbuck being recast as a woman.
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Battlestar Galactica had two.  Boomer was a black Viper pilot in the original and became a female Asian Raptor pilot in the remake.  Colonel Tigh was black in the original and was white in the remake.  I think the only reason they got away with it was because everyone was focused on Starbuck being recast as a woman.
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Any at all?
Battlestar Galactica had two.  Boomer was a black Viper pilot in the original and became a female Asian Raptor pilot in the remake.  Colonel Tigh was black in the original and was white in the remake.  I think the only reason they got away with it was because everyone was focused on Starbuck being recast as a woman.

Going from a black male to an Asian female wouldn't count so it was basically a trade of "I'll give you one black male non-top 5 character in exchange for one white male top 3 character."

Also development/casting for that started in 2002 so it just barely made the cut.  Hard to believe the REMAKE was 20 years ago.
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I legit gave this some thought.

I could think of no black -> white swaps off hand. I thought I remembered a single instance of a woman -> man role swap somewhere in my brain but couldn't recall any of the details and, despite some searching, couldn't come up with it.

Could come up with a list a several miles long of man -> woman swaps though.
Link Posted: 8/25/2022 3:18:51 PM EDT
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My reply to amazon's streaming services existing or not:

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If you lot are so bigoted and stupid that you think you can do better than Tolkien, you shouldn't be in the business. Go dig ditches.

The show is expected to be a hit, but if it somehow misses the mark, several sources told Insider the studio may face an existential crisis.


I can't see how they could think this. If they were being honest with the dislike count on the original video AND all the dislikes were true, and not bots, if you add them all up, it would be OVER 5 million dislikes, to 130k likes ... out of 31 million views.
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What's the ratio for The Terminal List?
Link Posted: 8/25/2022 3:40:41 PM EDT
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If you lot are so bigoted and stupid that you think you can do better than Tolkien, you shouldn't be in the business. Go dig ditches.

The show is expected to be a hit, but if it somehow misses the mark, several sources told Insider the studio may face an existential crisis.


I can't see how they could think this. If they were being honest with the dislike count on the original video AND all the dislikes were true, and not bots, if you add them all up, it would be OVER 5 million dislikes, to 130k likes ... out of 31 million views.

What's the ratio for The Terminal List?

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Link Posted: 8/25/2022 3:49:11 PM EDT
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My reply to amazon's streaming services existing or not:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/030/124/cast.jpg

If you lot are so bigoted and stupid that you think you can do better than Tolkien, you shouldn't be in the business. Go dig ditches.

The show is expected to be a hit, but if it somehow misses the mark, several sources told Insider the studio may face an existential crisis.


I can't see how they could think this. If they were being honest with the dislike count on the original video AND all the dislikes were true, and not bots, if you add them all up, it would be OVER 5 million dislikes, to 130k likes ... out of 31 million views.

What's the ratio for The Terminal List?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2022-08-25_15-39-53_jpg-2502521.JPG

You'd think anyone in a moneymaking business would get a clue.

Are they really that naive/stupid? Or have they simply decided that the cost is worth it, to push their agenda?
Link Posted: 8/25/2022 4:10:56 PM EDT
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You'd think anyone in a moneymaking business would get a clue.

Are they really that naive/stupid? Or have they simply decided that the cost is worth it, to push their agenda?
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My reply to amazon's streaming services existing or not:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/030/124/cast.jpg

If you lot are so bigoted and stupid that you think you can do better than Tolkien, you shouldn't be in the business. Go dig ditches.

The show is expected to be a hit, but if it somehow misses the mark, several sources told Insider the studio may face an existential crisis.


I can't see how they could think this. If they were being honest with the dislike count on the original video AND all the dislikes were true, and not bots, if you add them all up, it would be OVER 5 million dislikes, to 130k likes ... out of 31 million views.

What's the ratio for The Terminal List?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2022-08-25_15-39-53_jpg-2502521.JPG

You'd think anyone in a moneymaking business would get a clue.

Are they really that naive/stupid? Or have they simply decided that the cost is worth it, to push their agenda?

There's some signs the tide may be turning...

CANCELLED: Woke Batman Animated Show CANCELLED (Put Up to be Shopped Around)!!


BATGIRL SHELVED!! Warner Bros Ditch Woke Movie!!


Link Posted: 8/25/2022 4:28:55 PM EDT
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My reply to amazon's streaming services existing or not:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/030/124/cast.jpg

If you lot are so bigoted and stupid that you think you can do better than Tolkien, you shouldn't be in the business. Go dig ditches.

The show is expected to be a hit, but if it somehow misses the mark, several sources told Insider the studio may face an existential crisis.


I can't see how they could think this. If they were being honest with the dislike count on the original video AND all the dislikes were true, and not bots, if you add them all up, it would be OVER 5 million dislikes, to 130k likes ... out of 31 million views.

What's the ratio for The Terminal List?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2022-08-25_15-39-53_jpg-2502521.JPG

You'd think anyone in a moneymaking business would get a clue.

Are they really that naive/stupid? Or have they simply decided that the cost is worth it, to push their agenda?

Gillette had their "toxic masculinity" campaign and not long after that there were reports that their parent company Procter & Gamble was taking MASSIVE losses.  Some higher up made a comment about how "the message" was more important than money.  Well it turns out Procter & Gamble took a $5-8 BILLION loss and, IIRC, shit canned the higher up and the campaign.

I think it comes down to how much money we're talking about.  To some of them "the message" might be worth millions, but to none of them is "the message" worth $5B+.  At least not to the people ultimately in charge of companies in the business of making money.
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Finally on my computer.

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Feminem. Will the real Slim Lady please stand up!
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One of the engineers from the Alien series
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 1:26:34 AM EDT
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Gillette had their "toxic masculinity" campaign and not long after that there were reports that their parent company Procter & Gamble was taking MASSIVE losses.  Some higher up made a comment about how "the message" was more important than money.  Well it turns out Procter & Gamble took a $5-8 BILLION loss and, IIRC, shit canned the higher up and the campaign.

I think it comes down to how much money we're talking about.  To some of them "the message" might be worth millions, but to none of them is "the message" worth $5B+.  At least not to the people ultimately in charge of companies in the business of making money.
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My reply to amazon's streaming services existing or not:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/030/124/cast.jpg

If you lot are so bigoted and stupid that you think you can do better than Tolkien, you shouldn't be in the business. Go dig ditches.

The show is expected to be a hit, but if it somehow misses the mark, several sources told Insider the studio may face an existential crisis.


I can't see how they could think this. If they were being honest with the dislike count on the original video AND all the dislikes were true, and not bots, if you add them all up, it would be OVER 5 million dislikes, to 130k likes ... out of 31 million views.

What's the ratio for The Terminal List?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2022-08-25_15-39-53_jpg-2502521.JPG

You'd think anyone in a moneymaking business would get a clue.

Are they really that naive/stupid? Or have they simply decided that the cost is worth it, to push their agenda?

Gillette had their "toxic masculinity" campaign and not long after that there were reports that their parent company Procter & Gamble was taking MASSIVE losses.  Some higher up made a comment about how "the message" was more important than money.  Well it turns out Procter & Gamble took a $5-8 BILLION loss and, IIRC, shit canned the higher up and the campaign.

I think it comes down to how much money we're talking about.  To some of them "the message" might be worth millions, but to none of them is "the message" worth $5B+.  At least not to the people ultimately in charge of companies in the business of making money.

Company that's been selling products to/for men for ages, decides to give the finger to their clientele base. Who the heck thought that would work out?
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