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Link Posted: 9/29/2009 1:44:06 PM EDT
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Why has the main stream media not picked up on this yet?
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 1:47:31 PM EDT
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Why has the main stream media not picked up on this yet?


Because it makes there boy look bad

Link Posted: 9/29/2009 1:48:09 PM EDT
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Everybody run to  the bank and pull all your funds. Let's get this party started.


freakin A



Link Posted: 9/29/2009 1:49:58 PM EDT
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Pfftt, just print more money.

No biggie...


+1, this is what they will do, simply "inject" more funds into the system.  Problem solved (for now)....

They will continue to kick the can down the street a little further for as many kicks as they are able to muster.


Well, in the world that is flat, the street can not go on forever.
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 1:50:56 PM EDT
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Self insured, non-issue.
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 1:55:23 PM EDT
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I believe they have the ability to borrow up to 500 billion if other banks fail and they need access to funds. I don't want to take away from how f'd up it is that they are in the negative however wanted to point out that no one's money is "unsafe" if their bank were to go under.

Link Posted: 9/29/2009 1:57:25 PM EDT
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Pfftt, just print more money.

No biggie...


+1, this is what they will do, simply "inject" more funds into the system.  Problem solved (for now)....

They will continue to kick the can down the street a little further for as many kicks as they are able to muster.


It'll work fine until hyper inflation rapes the hell out of us.


Some really good reads here:
http://www.drschoon.com/articles/TheCoffinShapedRecovery.pdf
http://mises.org/story/3697
This one specifically about the deflation/inflation debate here:
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2009/0921.html

Thank Odt for these.

Link Posted: 9/29/2009 1:57:46 PM EDT
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I believe they have the ability to borrow up to 500 billion if other banks fail and they need access to funds. I don't want to take away from how f'd up it is that they are in the negative however wanted to point out that no one's money is "unsafe" if their bank were to go under.



Great, another 500 billion fucking "borrowed."  No worries people, they will just move on to ass raping your unborn grandkids kids, your money is perfectly safe
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 2:03:29 PM EDT
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I believe they have the ability to borrow up to 500 billion if other banks fail and they need access to funds. I don't want to take away from how f'd up it is that they are in the negative however wanted to point out that no one's money is "unsafe" if their bank were to go under.



Great, another 500 billion fucking "borrowed."  No worries people, they will just move on to ass raping your unborn grandkids kids, your money is perfectly safe


Agreed
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 3:14:35 PM EDT
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I believe they have the ability to borrow up to 500 billion if other banks fail and they need access to funds. I don't want to take away from how f'd up it is that they are in the negative however wanted to point out that no one's money is "unsafe" if their bank were to go under.



Great, another 500 billion fucking "borrowed."  No worries people, they will just move on to ass raping your unborn grandkids kids, your money is perfectly safe


Agreed


They do not have that ability. The bill never past the committee. Even if it did they will not be able to draw it out because the US debt limit will be reach. That's why the are forcing the banks to pay 3 years in advance for the insurance. That's not going to happen because the banks are insolvent.
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 3:50:10 PM EDT
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I believe they have the ability to borrow up to 500 billion if other banks fail and they need access to funds. I don't want to take away from how f'd up it is that they are in the negative however wanted to point out that no one's money is "unsafe" if their bank were to go under.



Great, another 500 billion fucking "borrowed."  No worries people, they will just move on to ass raping your unborn grandkids kids, your money is perfectly safe


Agreed


They do not have that ability. The bill never past the committee. Even if it did they will not be able to draw it out because the US debt limit will be reach. That's why the are forcing the banks to pay 3 years in advance for the insurance. That's not going to happen because the banks are insolvent.


The banks are full of the Fed's money.
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 3:56:18 PM EDT
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Do NOT worry !!  The .gov is just going to make the (perhaps) solvent banks pay a few billion ahead.

5sub


I saw that too.  It made me chortle.


Reminds me of Raul, the perpetually broke road race promoter here in San Antonio who would always pay out more in prizes than he took in, so he would have yearly passes for fifty bucks, then two year passes the next year
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 4:26:00 PM EDT
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The FDIC insurance prepay is suppose to raise 36 billion.
So the FDIC jacks up fees, and banks jack up fees like overdraft and others.
95 banks tits up this year... so far. The troubled list is growing.
In August, FDIC wanted Treasury help and also talked about borrowing money from banks.
Wait... borrow money from banks?
Sounds like another round of bailouts is coming.
But zero and his minions say everything is lovely. Rainbows and cotton candy clouds.


This is actually starting to get scary



      I think it also needs to be said that the 36 billion is only supposed to last about 3 months before FDIC will need more.

      Do they ask for 3 more years of prepay every 3 months until every bank has collapsed?

      Things are starting to get dicey. Its no wonder the MSM has not run this story. Everybody would take off work tomorrow and the proverbial "run on the banks" would begin.
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 5:13:09 PM EDT
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The FDIC insurance prepay is suppose to raise 36 billion.
So the FDIC jacks up fees, and banks jack up fees like overdraft and others.
95 banks tits up this year... so far. The troubled list is growing.
In August, FDIC wanted Treasury help and also talked about borrowing money from banks.
Wait... borrow money from banks?
Sounds like another round of bailouts is coming.
But zero and his minions say everything is lovely. Rainbows and cotton candy clouds.


This is actually starting to get scary


This
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 5:16:32 PM EDT
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Banks Tapped to Bolster FDIC Resources
FDIC Board Approves Proposed Rule to Seek Prepayment of Assessments

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
September 29, 2009  Media Contact:
Andrew Gray (202) 898-7192
[email protected]  


The Board of Directors of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation today adopted a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPR) that would require insured institutions to prepay their estimated quarterly risk-based assessments for the fourth quarter of 2009 and for all of 2010, 2011 and 2012. The FDIC estimates that the total prepaid assessments collected would be approximately $45 billion. The FDIC Board also voted to adopt a uniform three-basis point increase in assessment rates effective on January 1, 2011, and extend the restoration period from seven to eight years.

FDIC Chairman Sheila C. Bair said, "First and foremost, bank customers should know that their insured deposits have and always will be 100 percent safe, no matter what. This commitment to depositors is absolute. The decision today is really about how and when the industry fulfills its obligation to the insurance fund. It's clear that the American people would prefer to see an end to policies that look to the federal balance sheet as a remedy for every problem. In choosing this path, it should be clear to the public that the industry will not simply tap the shoulder of the increasingly weary taxpayer. This proposal is a vote of confidence for the banking industry's resilience, and it will continue to recover its strength as we work through the significant challenges ahead."

Prepayment of assessments will allow the industry to strengthen the cash position of the Deposit Insurance Fund (DIF) immediately, while allowing the capital impact of deposit insurance assessments to be felt gradually over time as the industry improves its own financial position. The banking industry has substantial liquidity to prepay assessments. As of June 30, FDIC-insured institutions held more than $1.3 trillion in liquid balances, or 22 percent more than they did a year ago. Prepaying assessments will put the industry's liquid balances to good use in conserving capital and helping to maintain the capacity of banks to lend while they rebuild the DIF. FDIC analysis indicates that this arrangement is much less likely to impair bank lending than a one-time special assessment.

Link Posted: 9/29/2009 5:19:43 PM EDT
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I believe they have the ability to borrow up to 500 billion if other banks fail and they need access to funds. I don't want to take away from how f'd up it is that they are in the negative however wanted to point out that no one's money is "unsafe" if their bank were to go under.



Great, another 500 billion fucking "borrowed."  No worries people, they will just move on to ass raping your unborn grandkids kids, your money is perfectly safe


Agreed


They do not have that ability. The bill never past the committee. Even if it did they will not be able to draw it out because the US debt limit will be reach. That's why the are forcing the banks to pay 3 years in advance for the insurance. That's not going to happen because the banks are insolvent.


The banks are full of the Fed's money.


hmmmm...  

The Banking System Is Insolvent

Following up on the quick mention now that I have a story to cite from Amherst:

   Cure rates for these distressed loans remain low. Amherst noted a near 0% cure rate of all loans in foreclosure, 0.8% for 90 plus days delinquent, 4.4% for 60 days delinquent and 26.5% for 30-day delinquencies. All told, Amherst expects 12.42% of units (from the 13.54% of properties delinquent and in foreclosure) to eventually liquidate.

Let's put some numbers on this.

There are roughly 125 million single-family homes in the US.

Of those, roughly 30% have no mortgage on them at all.  This leaves 87.5 million single-family homes with mortgages.

Let us assume the average outstanding balance is $200,000 across the entire set and will take a 40% loss severity.  This is less than S&P has estimated for subprime loans and only assumes a roughly 20% market deficiency in the home price (the rest is from legal, rehabilitation and marketing expenses.)

These numbers are, with a high degree of confidence (90%+) low - that is, losses will exceed these estimates, perhaps dramatically so.  It is, for example, quite reasonable to believe that due to the concentration of defaults in higher-priced areas (e.g. California and Florida) that the average outstanding balance could be close to double that $200,000 value and the loss due to negative equity higher.

From this we can develop a "cocktail napkin" view of the losses to be taken in home mortgages for single-family homes (remember, this does not include condos, apartment buildings and similar "commercial" paper.)

$200,000 X 40% = $80,000 loss per foreclosure.

87.5 million homes with mortgages X 12.42% = 10,867,500 foreclosures.

10,867,500
x    80,000
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$869,400,000,000

or $869 billion in losses remaining in single-family mortgages alone.

What if the average outstanding is higher and negative equity greater than 20% (which is likely)?  Losses will almost certainly be well north of a trillion dollars.

The entire banking system and likely The Fed, given the quantity of Fannie and Freddie paper it has been and is "eating", is insolvent.  These facts are why the government is lying - they're well-aware of the near-zero cure rates and know that these facts mean that the banking industry has nowhere near sufficient capital to withstand these losses without folding like a paper cup getting stomped on by an elephant.

(Remember that these numbers do not include any commercial real estate losses and we have found that banks are frequently over-stating their claimed values for these loans by 50% or more - as was seen with Colonial.)

It gets better.  The FDIC has a negative balance both in its fund balance and the reserve ratio projected for the end of the quarter, which is, big surprise, tomorrow. Oh, and there is this pesky problem that the FDIC has - contrary to its mandate - been issuing bond guarantees for banks, so if and when that banking insolvency is recognized the FDIC will implode into a gravity well also, since it is on the hook for the entire deficiency of those bonds that were issued with its "guarantee" should they default.

Care to argue with the math folks?
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 5:22:04 PM EDT
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Banks Tapped to Bolster FDIC Resources
FDIC Board Approves Proposed Rule to Seek Prepayment of Assessments

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
September 29, 2009  Media Contact:
Andrew Gray (202) 898-7192
[email protected]  


The Board of Directors of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation today adopted a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPR) that would require insured institutions to prepay their estimated quarterly risk-based assessments for the fourth quarter of 2009 and for all of 2010, 2011 and 2012. The FDIC estimates that the total prepaid assessments collected would be approximately $45 billion. The FDIC Board also voted to adopt a uniform three-basis point increase in assessment rates effective on January 1, 2011, and extend the restoration period from seven to eight years.

FDIC Chairman Sheila C. Bair said, "First and foremost, bank customers should know that their insured deposits have and always will be 100 percent safe, no matter what. This commitment to depositors is absolute. The decision today is really about how and when the industry fulfills its obligation to the insurance fund. It's clear that the American people would prefer to see an end to policies that look to the federal balance sheet as a remedy for every problem. In choosing this path, it should be clear to the public that the industry will not simply tap the shoulder of the increasingly weary taxpayer. This proposal is a vote of confidence for the banking industry's resilience, and it will continue to recover its strength as we work through the significant challenges ahead."

Prepayment of assessments will allow the industry to strengthen the cash position of the Deposit Insurance Fund (DIF) immediately, while allowing the capital impact of deposit insurance assessments to be felt gradually over time as the industry improves its own financial position. The banking industry has substantial liquidity to prepay assessments. As of June 30, FDIC-insured institutions held more than $1.3 trillion in liquid balances, or 22 percent more than they did a year ago. Prepaying assessments will put the industry's liquid balances to good use in conserving capital and helping to maintain the capacity of banks to lend while they rebuild the DIF. FDIC analysis indicates that this arrangement is much less likely to impair bank lending than a one-time special assessment.
















Link Posted: 9/29/2009 5:22:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/29/2009 5:47:01 PM EDT
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They were saying earlier today on the news that your deposits are still safe.



OK, now it is time to worry...





One upside to being unemployed and broke, no money to worry about losing.





Brother can you spare a dime?





 
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 6:26:49 PM EDT
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They were saying earlier today on the news that your deposits are still safe.

OK, now it is time to worry...

One upside to being unemployed and broke, no money to worry about losing.

Brother can you spare a dime?
 


It's better to be broke than to have 90% of your life's fruits in the bank.
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 6:35:22 PM EDT
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When things are fine, people don't have to remind you how fine things are.

History has proven this repeatedly.


Repeat it until people believe it.
Remember truth is the mortal enemy of the state
Tax receipts are nowhere close to what they were last year, but it hasn't slowed down spending. They are stuck. They have to push that line to keep from being chased down by angry mobs. Lots and lots of angry mobs.
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 6:42:26 PM EDT
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When things are fine, people don't have to remind you how fine things are.

History has proven this repeatedly.


This is not unsolicited.  When you have the advent of the internet and people being able to rapily spread false information, often deliberately,  it becomes necessary to interject factual information....
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 7:12:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/29/2009 10:01:01 PM EDT
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I believe they have the ability to borrow up to 500 billion if other banks fail and they need access to funds. I don't want to take away from how f'd up it is that they are in the negative however wanted to point out that no one's money is "unsafe" if their bank were to go under.



Great, another 500 billion fucking "borrowed."  No worries people, they will just move on to ass raping your unborn grandkids kids, your money is perfectly safe


Agreed


They do not have that ability. The bill never past the committee. Even if it did they will not be able to draw it out because the US debt limit will be reach. That's why the are forcing the banks to pay 3 years in advance for the insurance. That's not going to happen because the banks are insolvent.


The banks are full of the Fed's money.


The banks are insolvent. Period. That's why they are closing down left and right. That is why the FDIC has no more money to back depositors.
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 10:05:00 PM EDT
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Banks Tapped to Bolster FDIC Resources
FDIC Board Approves Proposed Rule to Seek Prepayment of Assessments

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
September 29, 2009  Media Contact:
Andrew Gray (202) 898-7192
[email protected]  


The Board of Directors of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation today adopted a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPR) that would require insured institutions to prepay their estimated quarterly risk-based assessments for the fourth quarter of 2009 and for all of 2010, 2011 and 2012. The FDIC estimates that the total prepaid assessments collected would be approximately $45 billion. The FDIC Board also voted to adopt a uniform three-basis point increase in assessment rates effective on January 1, 2011, and extend the restoration period from seven to eight years.

FDIC Chairman Sheila C. Bair said, "First and foremost, bank customers should know that their insured deposits have and always will be 100 percent safe, no matter what. This commitment to depositors is absolute. The decision today is really about how and when the industry fulfills its obligation to the insurance fund. It's clear that the American people would prefer to see an end to policies that look to the federal balance sheet as a remedy for every problem. In choosing this path, it should be clear to the public that the industry will not simply tap the shoulder of the increasingly weary taxpayer. This proposal is a vote of confidence for the banking industry's resilience, and it will continue to recover its strength as we work through the significant challenges ahead."

Prepayment of assessments will allow the industry to strengthen the cash position of the Deposit Insurance Fund (DIF) immediately, while allowing the capital impact of deposit insurance assessments to be felt gradually over time as the industry improves its own financial position. The banking industry has substantial liquidity to prepay assessments. As of June 30, FDIC-insured institutions held more than $1.3 trillion in liquid balances, or 22 percent more than they did a year ago. Prepaying assessments will put the industry's liquid balances to good use in conserving capital and helping to maintain the capacity of banks to lend while they rebuild the DIF. FDIC analysis indicates that this arrangement is much less likely to impair bank lending than a one-time special assessment.



When things are fine, people don't have to remind you how fine things are.

History has proven this repeatedly.


When the FDIC placed ads begging depositors to keep their money in the bank. You know trouble is coming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhrCPhYk5m8&feature=player_embedded
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 10:10:57 PM EDT
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If I were a hedge fund manager, I would be paying college students to line up outside of banks

Link Posted: 9/29/2009 10:22:51 PM EDT
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When the FDIC placed ads begging depositors to keep their money in the bank. You know trouble is coming.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhrCPhYk5m8&feature=player_embedded


"IN A SHOEBOX!? What the hell was she thinking. Put that money back into the Bank NOW!"



I agree, that doesn't look too good.



 
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 10:35:00 PM EDT
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They were saying earlier today on the news that your deposits are still safe.

OK, now it is time to worry...

One upside to being unemployed and broke, no money to worry about losing.

Brother can you spare a dime?
 


It's better to be broke than to have 90% of your life's fruits in the bank.


Really? I think I'd take my chances with the bank given a choice!
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 10:45:09 PM EDT
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They were saying earlier today on the news that your deposits are still safe.

OK, now it is time to worry...

One upside to being unemployed and broke, no money to worry about losing.

Brother can you spare a dime?
 


It's better to be broke than to have 90% of your life's fruits in the bank.


I didn't think it was possible to be this stupid.

This entire thread is full-retard.
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 10:49:18 PM EDT
[#30]
its the end of the world as we know it
its the end of the world as we know it
and i feel fine.....
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 11:33:25 PM EDT
[#31]
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Link Posted: 9/30/2009 12:38:54 AM EDT
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On a serious note, when it all hits the fan, what will our banking/financial system look like?



Link Posted: 9/30/2009 1:46:34 AM EDT
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When things are fine, people don't have to remind you how fine things are.

History has proven this repeatedly.


This is not unsolicited.  When you have the advent of the internet and people being able to rapily spread false information, often deliberately,  it becomes necessary to interject factual information....


A reasonable assertion. But the numbers don't lie. People just lie about what the numbers mean.



"Figures don't lie, liars figure."
Link Posted: 9/30/2009 1:56:55 AM EDT
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I believe they have the ability to borrow up to 500 billion if other banks fail and they need access to funds. I don't want to take away from how f'd up it is that they are in the negative however wanted to point out that no one's money is "unsafe" if their bank were to go under.



Great, another 500 billion fucking "borrowed."  No worries people, they will just move on to ass raping your unborn grandkids kids, your money is perfectly safe


Agreed


They do not have that ability. The bill never past the committee. Even if it did they will not be able to draw it out because the US debt limit will be reach. That's why the are forcing the banks to pay 3 years in advance for the insurance. That's not going to happen because the banks are insolvent.


The banks are full of the Fed's money.


the banks are full of "imaginary money"  they only have 10% of what they claim to be able to loan , fractional reserve wins again >  for every 1 dollar they recieve in loan form from the fed , they put 10 dollars on their books . And nearly none of the actual money loaned to them by the fed is physical money , it's just a decimal point moved in a computer . Complete shell game/ pyramid scheme where all the top players are cashing out while telling us it's all good .
Link Posted: 9/30/2009 1:58:53 AM EDT
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how many banks did they close down that didn't need to be? one that i know of.
Link Posted: 9/30/2009 2:05:26 AM EDT
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Screw the lead, bullets or ammo.

I'll take food and water, as much as I can pack into my house.


Good so when you run out of ammo i will take your food and water....



Link Posted: 9/30/2009 2:11:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/30/2009 4:13:11 AM EDT
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When the FDIC placed ads begging depositors to keep their money in the bank. You know trouble is coming.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhrCPhYk5m8&feature=player_embedded



"IN A SHOEBOX!? What the hell was she thinking. Put that money back into the Bank NOW!"





I agree, that doesn't look too good.


 



Don't forget the radio advertising for the SIPC (Securities Investor Protection Corp) too, "...on the rare occasion a brokerage firm fails your money is safe."





IIRC they were playing those ads before the Bernie Madoff collapse, I had to laugh at the radio when I heard it.




 
 
Link Posted: 9/30/2009 5:34:35 AM EDT
[#39]
Why doesn't another Insurance company step in?

FDIC=FAIL

What would you say if GEICO called you up bankrupt and asked for three years car insurance premiums in advance from all their customers? Same thing here....
Link Posted: 9/30/2009 5:43:35 AM EDT
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Why doesn't another Insurance company step in?

FDIC=FAIL


because it would be insane to offer insurance against mathematically unavoidable payouts valued at somwhere north of half of the cumulative debt/money in the banking system?

ok not insane mathematically impossible actually
Link Posted: 9/30/2009 8:24:06 AM EDT
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I believe they have the ability to borrow up to 500 billion if other banks fail and they need access to funds. I don't want to take away from how f'd up it is that they are in the negative however wanted to point out that no one's money is "unsafe" if their bank were to go under.



Great, another 500 billion fucking "borrowed."  No worries people, they will just move on to ass raping your unborn grandkids kids, your money is perfectly safe


Agreed


They do not have that ability. The bill never past the committee. Even if it did they will not be able to draw it out because the US debt limit will be reach. That's why the are forcing the banks to pay 3 years in advance for the insurance. That's not going to happen because the banks are insolvent.


The banks are full of the Fed's money.


The banks are insolvent. Period. That's why they are closing down left and right. That is why the FDIC has no more money to back depositors.


Not all banks.

Read this:
http://mises.org/story/3697

At the end of July this year, US banks were sitting on $729 billion of cash against $1.9 billion in July last year.

In the United Kingdom, bank cash reserves jumped from £28.6 billion in July last year to £161.3 billion at the end of July this year.

In the eurozone, bank reserves climbed to €505 billion in June this year from €227 billion in June last year before settling at €394 billion in July this year.

Link Posted: 9/30/2009 9:29:11 AM EDT
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At the end of July this year, US banks were sitting on $729 billion of cash against $1.9 billion in July last year.

In the United Kingdom, bank cash reserves jumped from £28.6 billion in July last year to £161.3 billion at the end of July this year.

In the eurozone, bank reserves climbed to €505 billion in June this year from €227 billion in June last year before settling at €394 billion in July this year.


Ok, balance the bank reserves against the hard deposits in institutions. Checking, savings, retirements and such. That amount is somewhere around $5-$7 trillion nationwide. The amount varies of course, but you get the idea. Not all of those deposits would be insured but even so, FDIC can't come close to covering all "fully insured" accounts. Just US accounts.
It's getting worse, not better. From the newsletter below:(end of 2008)
The FDIC's Deposit Insurance Fund reserve ratio fell. A higher level of losses for actual and anticipated failures caused the insurance fund balance to decline during the fourth quarter by $16 billion, to $19 billion (unaudited) at December 31. In addition to having $19 billion available in the fund, $22 billion has been set aside for estimated losses on failures anticipated in 2009. The fund reserve ratio declined from 0.76 percent at September 30 to 0.40 percent at year end.

FDIC Febuary Mewsletter

So at the end of 2008 with a reserve ratio of .76 down to .40, instead of getting 76 cents on your dollar, you would have gotten 40 cents coverage. Where does the rest of the money come from? They want to borrow from other banks (the shell game).

Also realize that FDIC started this year with around $55 billion, and they want another $36 billion prepay for the next 3 years to bring their total to about $45 billion after expeditures. That means they spent $45 billion this year. So $45 billion is not enough to cover the next 3 years since it took $45 billion just to cover this year's failures. What happens next year when they run out of money? It can't last. It just can't.
At the end of June they were up to 416 troubled banks. Troubled?

Some "troubling" shenanigans going on with "troubling" numbers and very few talking about it. Despite all the talk by zero and that crowd about how wonderful everything is, barely saved from the abyss, I ain't seeing it. Fed.gov tax receipts doesn't reflect the economic turnaround. People are not spending nearly as much.
I'm calling on the turnaround. I'm also calling on FDIC. They are a priest begging you to have faith, because without faith, the music stops.
Green shoots my ass.
Link Posted: 9/30/2009 9:33:19 AM EDT
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good thing I litterally have no money in the bank
Link Posted: 9/30/2009 9:38:30 AM EDT
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Not all banks.

Read this:
http://mises.org/story/3697

At the end of July this year, US banks were sitting on $729 billion of cash against $1.9 billion in July last year.
In the United Kingdom, bank cash reserves jumped from £28.6 billion in July last year to £161.3 billion at the end of July this year.

In the eurozone, bank reserves climbed to €505 billion in June this year from €227 billion in June last year before settling at €394 billion in July this year.




WTH??? The amount of cash they're sitting-on jumped like a million percent in the past year???

Link Posted: 9/30/2009 9:39:31 AM EDT
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BREAKING!

FDIC to be sold on the open exchange.........

The FDIC reportedly is to issue several thousand shares of stock, a yet to be determined exact number. An investment banker appraised the company, economic outlooks,  determining the company is marketable and ready to be sold on the open exchange. This is basically a way for a company to raise needed capital for expansion or other purposes to increase profitability.



























Link Posted: 9/30/2009 9:44:19 AM EDT
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They were saying earlier today on the news that your deposits are still safe.


They would say that regardless of whether it were true or not.

I'm not saying it's not true, but they'd be saying everything was fine even as it burned down around them.


This administration is nothing more than the dance band on the Titanic.  

Link Posted: 9/30/2009 9:57:06 AM EDT
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So my grandfather has about $200k stashed in 3 banks.  What do I tell him to do with his money?
Link Posted: 9/30/2009 10:34:12 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/30/2009 10:34:25 AM EDT
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So my grandfather has about $200k stashed in 3 banks.  What do I tell him to do with his money?


Safety deposit box or Credit Union
Link Posted: 9/30/2009 4:51:46 PM EDT
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I believe they have the ability to borrow up to 500 billion if other banks fail and they need access to funds. I don't want to take away from how f'd up it is that they are in the negative however wanted to point out that no one's money is "unsafe" if their bank were to go under.



Great, another 500 billion fucking "borrowed."  No worries people, they will just move on to ass raping your unborn grandkids kids, your money is perfectly safe


Agreed


They do not have that ability. The bill never past the committee. Even if it did they will not be able to draw it out because the US debt limit will be reach. That's why the are forcing the banks to pay 3 years in advance for the insurance. That's not going to happen because the banks are insolvent.


The banks are full of the Fed's money.


The banks are insolvent. Period. That's why they are closing down left and right. That is why the FDIC has no more money to back depositors.


Not all banks.

Read this:
http://mises.org/story/3697

At the end of July this year, US banks were sitting on $729 billion of cash against $1.9 billion in July last year.

In the United Kingdom, bank cash reserves jumped from £28.6 billion in July last year to £161.3 billion at the end of July this year.

In the eurozone, bank reserves climbed to €505 billion in June this year from €227 billion in June last year before settling at €394 billion in July this year.



With a few exception almost all the banks are insolvent. Credit Unions suppose to be the safest banks of them all but five of them failed this year.
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