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Too bad LEOSA doesn't cover corrections officers. The fact LEOSA exists at all is a problem Butt hurt mil guy! Why do you hate freedom? You must be Law enforcement. It isn't us vs. them. It is that every free man should have the right to protect himself and his property. There should be no LEOSA because all free men should be able to exercise their right to keep and bear arms. |
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EFF him. Everybody felt sooo bad for him, until you find out he is a cho-mo that has been getting away with it. He needs to go to prison. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh, well, no problem. Pro gun Christie will be along any minute to straighten this mess right out. He's actually pardoned quite a few people from neighboring states who were charged with similar "crimes." What about that professor with the flintlock? EFF him. Everybody felt sooo bad for him, until you find out he is a cho-mo that has been getting away with it. He needs to go to prison. You are the problem. Regardless of what side of the political spectrum you are on..... shall not be infringed. |
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Raymond Hughes has a license to carry a gun in Pennsylvania but not in New Jersey. Hughes says he's been suspended from his job as a sergeant at a state prison. He says he's "one of the good guys." http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CORRECTIONS_OFFICER_GUN_CHARGE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-02-19-13-52-37 View Quote he's stupid. Stupid hurts. |
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All cops who enforce unconstitutional laws are dolts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The cop that made that arrest is a dolt. Why? All cops who enforce unconstitutional laws are dolts. Most likely it was one of the New Jersey State Police I mean NJ Nazis's. |
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Once again for the stupid.
Cops/law enforcement are not your friends . That does not mean they are the enemy. What it does mean is there is zero reason why one should inform law enforcement about a law infraction. The likelihood of getting searched during a routine pullover is astronomically low. But these are they same people would call the atf on themselves for a mistaken 922 (r) violation. |
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Oh, well, no problem. Pro gun Christie will be along any minute to straighten this mess right out. He's actually pardoned quite a few people from neighboring states who were charged with similar "crimes." Yes, Christie like that type of control. ETA... If Christie wasn't a giant bag of dicks, he would have already pardoned the guy, written a letter to his employer apologizing for the injustice, and he'd be using his bully pulpit to demand a bill from legislature that fixes this by Monday. |
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Too bad LEOSA doesn't cover corrections officers. View Quote Why? We don't need more special privileges for certain segments of the population. Fix the problem for all Americans. As far as this guy play stupid games win stupid prizes. Everyone knows to stay out of NJ or clean your car beforehand. Hopefully he'll get a second chance and a pardon though. |
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It's easier than you think. Several years back I had a job interview in Kansas City. Wasn't until I was talking with the guy on the way out from the interview that I found out we were about 50 feet into KS. So not only was my CCW no good but the gun in the center console, that is legal without a permit in Missouri, was a felony in KS. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I have a CCW in a the state of GA. Before traveling to another state, I would take the... 5 seconds... to check the laws of the state I was traveling to. It's hard to feel sorry for someone who does something so dumb. It's easier than you think. Several years back I had a job interview in Kansas City. Wasn't until I was talking with the guy on the way out from the interview that I found out we were about 50 feet into KS. So not only was my CCW no good but the gun in the center console, that is legal without a permit in Missouri, was a felony in KS. There's a big fucking river between PA and NJ, you can't just accidentally cross. Also the article says he went to AC he had to drive across the entire width of the state. Zero fucks given, either pure ignorance to think you could have a gun in NJ, or he thought his special snowflake status would protect him. |
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Bolded part..Unless you live close to the border of NJ you don't get it. It is a very easy thing to do... I was visiting the heritage guild in Easton PA one time, on the way back I turned left where I should not have and found myself en-route to NJ with no way of turning around until AFTER I had crossed the border. Another time I was in the Delaware Water Gap area, trying to reach a destination on the PA side. I was following GPS directions and for some retarded reason GPS took me through NJ and than back into PA. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dumbass. It's fucking New Jersey, what the fuck was he fucking thinking? it happens as a former pa resident,its not hard to make a mistake and cross the NJ/MD line... its not and excuse but i know it happens alot..... Bolded part..Unless you live close to the border of NJ you don't get it. It is a very easy thing to do... I was visiting the heritage guild in Easton PA one time, on the way back I turned left where I should not have and found myself en-route to NJ with no way of turning around until AFTER I had crossed the border. Another time I was in the Delaware Water Gap area, trying to reach a destination on the PA side. I was following GPS directions and for some retarded reason GPS took me through NJ and than back into PA. There's a big ass river don't cross it. Both 78 and 80 are clearly labeled with LAST EXIT IN PENNSYLVANIA |
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Hope he gets a felony. Solid lesson for him for being a stooge for the system.
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No shit. We are the ones that spend the most time with the vermin and become the target quite often. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Too bad LEOSA doesn't cover corrections officers. No shit. We are the ones that spend the most time with the vermin and become the target quite often. Won't speak for WI but I can easily see it getting abused to high hell in PA. |
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Im for constitutional carry for all citizens. You know the 2a. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The fact LEOSA exists at all is a problem http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Extorris/Pics/Gleason.jpg Doesn't make him wrong. I don't believe cops should be given special rights to carry off duty. Either they get a ccw like the rest of us, or they get to catch a charge like the rest of us. Make them follow the laws they enforce. Im for constitutional carry for all citizens. You know the 2a. I am too. I don't think anyone should need a ccw to carry, nationwide. One way to achieve that is to not let anyone have special snowflake status so that we all have to play by the same rules and therefore have the same amount of skin in the game. The first step in doing that is to remove special snowflake statuses from anyone who has them. Then force them to deal with the laws that commoners have to deal with. Bam, bigger, more motivated voting blocks that now include politically connected people. |
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EFF him. Everybody felt sooo bad for him, until you find out he is a cho-mo that has been getting away with it. He needs to go to prison. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh, well, no problem. Pro gun Christie will be along any minute to straighten this mess right out. He's actually pardoned quite a few people from neighboring states who were charged with similar "crimes." What about that professor with the flintlock? EFF him. Everybody felt sooo bad for him, until you find out he is a cho-mo that has been getting away with it. He needs to go to prison. No shit? Fucking slimy POS... |
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I am too. I don't think anyone should need a ccw to carry, nationwide. One way to achieve that is to not let anyone have special snowflake status so that we all have to play by the same rules and therefore have the same amount of skin in the game. The first step in doing that is to remove special snowflake statuses from anyone who has them. Then force them to deal with the laws that commoners have to deal with. Bam, bigger, more motivated voting blocks that now include politically connected people. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The fact LEOSA exists at all is a problem http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Extorris/Pics/Gleason.jpg Doesn't make him wrong. I don't believe cops should be given special rights to carry off duty. Either they get a ccw like the rest of us, or they get to catch a charge like the rest of us. Make them follow the laws they enforce. Im for constitutional carry for all citizens. You know the 2a. I am too. I don't think anyone should need a ccw to carry, nationwide. One way to achieve that is to not let anyone have special snowflake status so that we all have to play by the same rules and therefore have the same amount of skin in the game. The first step in doing that is to remove special snowflake statuses from anyone who has them. Then force them to deal with the laws that commoners have to deal with. Bam, bigger, more motivated voting blocks that now include politically connected people. There are always going to be some guys with special status and super privleges. Not ever going to get around that. What you can do, is raise the bar and make CCW permits reciprocal throughs the US. |
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There are always going to be some guys with special status and super privleges. Not ever going to get around that. What you can do, is raise the bar and make CCW permits reciprocal throughs the US. View Quote It is exactly that kind of thinking that needs to be done away with. Sure, I get on duty (as in, at work) cops having special powers to do their jobs. But if you ryake any person who is not exercising powers of office rather than powers of citizenship (aka, not performing in an official capacity at that moment), there should be no special snowflakes. Period. Any other thinking is against "all men are created equal." And we need to have constitutional carry, not nationwide ccw permits. Should not need a permit to exercise a right, period. |
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Wow. I didn't realize the GD cop-hate extends to DOC. Arfcom hate knows no boundaries. Its not cop hating though. If you or I would catch the charge, so should this guy since he is not covered by any law exempting him from NJ's gun laws (which are unconstitutional imho). Him being LE connected but not covered by leosa due to standing law....sorry bud, you aren't special. |
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Its not cop hating though. If you or I would catch the charge, so should this guy since he is not covered by any law exempting him from NJ's gun laws (which are unconstitutional imho). Him being LE connected but not covered by leosa due to standing law....sorry bud, you aren't special. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wow. I didn't realize the GD cop-hate extends to DOC. Arfcom hate knows no boundaries. Its not cop hating though. If you or I would catch the charge, so should this guy since he is not covered by any law exempting him from NJ's gun laws (which are unconstitutional imho). Him being LE connected but not covered by leosa due to standing law....sorry bud, you aren't special. No he is just a state employee no different then Penn Dot, clerk typist, or any other state civil service employee. |
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Its not cop hating though. If you or I would catch the charge, so should this guy since he is not covered by any law exempting him from NJ's gun laws (which are unconstitutional imho). Him being LE connected but not covered by leosa due to standing law....sorry bud, you aren't special. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wow. I didn't realize the GD cop-hate extends to DOC. Arfcom hate knows no boundaries. Its not cop hating though. If you or I would catch the charge, so should this guy since he is not covered by any law exempting him from NJ's gun laws (which are unconstitutional imho). Him being LE connected but not covered by leosa due to standing law....sorry bud, you aren't special. Which is why he was arrested ! He broke the law because he wasn't allowed to carry a gun in NJ. I can carry a gun nationwide on duty or off. This includes being allowed to fly armed - even if I'm on vacation. If I leave the US, I lose the right to do so (unless I'm working) . If I'm not allowed to carry a gun but do so anyway then I need to be prepared to face the consequences. The PA DOC guy threw the dice and lost. I choose to both follow the law and limit where I travel. My choices and they come with self determined consequences. |
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As a prisoner of this state, I say either fix this shit for everyone or let them break it off in his ass. I'm tired of letting these out of staters off the hook while keeping the jack boot pressed firmly on the throats of everyone who lives here.
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He would have been arrested in VA too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Not true, VA has statewide permitless open carry, you may also have a concealed firearm in a vehicle as long as it is in a container, no permit required. |
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LOL...Back in the late 70s I got turned around in Alexandria, Virginia and ended-up in DC with a van load of convicts one night. I un-assed that place in a hurry. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dumbass. It's fucking New Jersey, what the fuck was he fucking thinking? it happens as a former pa resident,its not hard to make a mistake and cross the NJ/MD line... its not and excuse but i know it happens alot..... LOL...Back in the late 70s I got turned around in Alexandria, Virginia and ended-up in DC with a van load of convicts one night. I un-assed that place in a hurry. You were only taking them to their jobs on Capitol Hill!!!! |
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Which is why he was arrested ! He broke the law because he wasn't allowed to carry a gun in NJ. I can carry a gun nationwide on duty or off. This includes being allowed to fly armed - even if I'm on vacation. If I leave the US, I lose the right to do so (unless I'm working) . If I'm not allowed to carry a gun but do so anyway then I need to be prepared to face the consequences. The PA DOC guy threw the dice and lost. I choose to both follow the law and limit where I travel. My choices and they come with self determined consequences. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wow. I didn't realize the GD cop-hate extends to DOC. Arfcom hate knows no boundaries. Its not cop hating though. If you or I would catch the charge, so should this guy since he is not covered by any law exempting him from NJ's gun laws (which are unconstitutional imho). Him being LE connected but not covered by leosa due to standing law....sorry bud, you aren't special. Which is why he was arrested ! He broke the law because he wasn't allowed to carry a gun in NJ. I can carry a gun nationwide on duty or off. This includes being allowed to fly armed - even if I'm on vacation. If I leave the US, I lose the right to do so (unless I'm working) . If I'm not allowed to carry a gun but do so anyway then I need to be prepared to face the consequences. The PA DOC guy threw the dice and lost. I choose to both follow the law and limit where I travel. My choices and they come with self determined consequences. Well stated and to the point... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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My bet is he knew it was illegal, has done this before and figured he would be able to brass pass himself out of any potential trouble.
I mean what NJ cop is going to know that PA DOC guys are not sworn? As far as a case to use to climb the court system with, it doesn't get a whole lot cleaner then this. Dude got in a car wreck with a drunk, not like he was pulled over and they found 2lbs of heroin and a dead hooker in his trunk. |
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Dumbass. It's fucking New Jersey, what the fuck was he fucking thinking? it happens as a former pa resident,its not hard to make a mistake and cross the NJ/MD line... its not and excuse but i know it happens alot..... Bolded part..Unless you live close to the border of NJ you don't get it. It is a very easy thing to do... I was visiting the heritage guild in Easton PA one time, on the way back I turned left where I should not have and found myself en-route to NJ with no way of turning around until AFTER I had crossed the border. Another time I was in the Delaware Water Gap area, trying to reach a destination on the PA side. I was following GPS directions and for some retarded reason GPS took me through NJ and than back into PA. It can also happen really easy from NY. I think it was port Jarvis or something, I needed gas and punched into GPS, then when I got to gas station there were folks wearing orange vests and the prices were cheap...it took me a second to go . I did not have to get out of the car, so I jus pulled up to the pump and got a tank full and drove the 500ft back to the safety of NY Are you serious? He is that's how bad NJ is |
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Which is why he was arrested ! He broke the law because he wasn't allowed to carry a gun in NJ. I can carry a gun nationwide on duty or off. This includes being allowed to fly armed - even if I'm on vacation. If I leave the US, I lose the right to do so (unless I'm working) . If I'm not allowed to carry a gun but do so anyway then I need to be prepared to face the consequences. The PA DOC guy threw the dice and lost. I choose to both follow the law and limit where I travel. My choices and they come with self determined consequences. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wow. I didn't realize the GD cop-hate extends to DOC. Arfcom hate knows no boundaries. Its not cop hating though. If you or I would catch the charge, so should this guy since he is not covered by any law exempting him from NJ's gun laws (which are unconstitutional imho). Him being LE connected but not covered by leosa due to standing law....sorry bud, you aren't special. Which is why he was arrested ! He broke the law because he wasn't allowed to carry a gun in NJ. I can carry a gun nationwide on duty or off. This includes being allowed to fly armed - even if I'm on vacation. If I leave the US, I lose the right to do so (unless I'm working) . If I'm not allowed to carry a gun but do so anyway then I need to be prepared to face the consequences. The PA DOC guy threw the dice and lost. I choose to both follow the law and limit where I travel. My choices and they come with self determined consequences. Prepared to face the consequences or not, wouldn't you do everything in your power to beat the charges if you found yourself on the wrong side of a situation like this? |
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As a prisoner of this state, I say either fix this shit for everyone or let them break it off in his ass. I'm tired of letting these out of staters off the hook while keeping the jack boot pressed firmly on the throats of everyone who lives here. View Quote Your newsletter. I'd like to subscribe to it, |
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Wow. I didn't realize the GD cop-hate extends to DOC. Arfcom hate knows no boundaries. Its not cop hating though. If you or I would catch the charge, so should this guy since he is not covered by any law exempting him from NJ's gun laws (which are unconstitutional imho). Him being LE connected but not covered by leosa due to standing law....sorry bud, you aren't special. Which is why he was arrested ! He broke the law because he wasn't allowed to carry a gun in NJ. I can carry a gun nationwide on duty or off. This includes being allowed to fly armed - even if I'm on vacation. If I leave the US, I lose the right to do so (unless I'm working) . If I'm not allowed to carry a gun but do so anyway then I need to be prepared to face the consequences. The PA DOC guy threw the dice and lost. I choose to both follow the law and limit where I travel. My choices and they come with self determined consequences. Prepared to face the consequences or not, wouldn't you do everything in your power to beat the charges if you found yourself on the wrong side of a situation like this? I wouldn't put myself in the situation to start with. |
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CO's in CA are not LEO's. Quite a few have found that out the hard way. It is very easy for them to get CCW's but they do not have powers of arrest.
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It is exactly that kind of thinking that needs to be done away with. Sure, I get on duty (as in, at work) cops having special powers to do their jobs. But if you ryake any person who is not exercising powers of office rather than powers of citizenship (aka, not performing in an official capacity at that moment), there should be no special snowflakes. Period. Any other thinking is against "all men are created equal." And we need to have constitutional carry, not nationwide ccw permits. Should not need a permit to exercise a right, period. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There are always going to be some guys with special status and super privleges. Not ever going to get around that. What you can do, is raise the bar and make CCW permits reciprocal throughs the US. It is exactly that kind of thinking that needs to be done away with. Sure, I get on duty (as in, at work) cops having special powers to do their jobs. But if you ryake any person who is not exercising powers of office rather than powers of citizenship (aka, not performing in an official capacity at that moment), there should be no special snowflakes. Period. Any other thinking is against "all men are created equal." And we need to have constitutional carry, not nationwide ccw permits. Should not need a permit to exercise a right, period. All men are created equal, and that's where it stops. |
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I have a CCW in a the state of GA. Before traveling to another state, I would take the... 5 seconds... to check the laws of the state I was traveling to. It's hard to feel sorry for someone who does something so dumb. View Quote If CWPs were treated the same as a driver's license, it wouldn't be necessary, except to check where the gun-free zones are and if the 30:06 signs have the force of law. |
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