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7/5/2012 3:54:29 PM EDT
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/restaurant-faces-investigation-for-offering-church-discount.html



A family-owned restaurant in Pennsylvania is under a state discrimination investigation for offering a ten percent discount for diners who present a church bulletin on Sundays.

The Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission confirmed there is an investigation against Prudhomme’s Lost Cajun Kitchen in the town of Columbia. The complaint was filed by John Wolff, a retired electrical engineer.

“I did this not out of spite, but out of a feeling against the prevailing self-righteousness that stems from religion, particular in Lancaster County,” Wolff told the York Daily Record. “I don’t consider it an earth-shaking affair, but in this area in particular, we seem to have so many self-righteous religious people, so it just annoys me.”

According to the Pennsylvania Human Relations Act, a restaurant classified as a public accomodation.  As such, restaurants are not allowed to discriminate based on religion — among other things

Sharon Prudhomme, who owns the restaurant along with her husband, said she’s not discriminating against anybody – and plans on fighting the charges.

“What freaks me out is the state of Pennsylvania is basically agreeing with this guy,” Prudhomme told Fox News Radio. “We’re just a mom and pop. We’re not some big chain like the Olive Garden.”

Prudhomme said the trouble started in April of 2011 when she received the first of several letters from the Freedom From Religion Foundation. The FFRF is a Wisconsin-based organization of “more than 17,000 freethinkers, atheists, agnostics and skeptics,” according to its website.

The FFRF demanded that she stop giving discounts to patrons who brought in a Sunday church bulletin.


7/5/2012 3:58:52 PM EDT
[#1]
7/5/2012 4:03:23 PM EDT
[#2]
I own and operate a small business and ANY member of the clergy gets a discount: Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, doesn't matter.

If a Rabbi ever crossed my path, he'd get a discount too.

And beyond that, a private business should be able to do whatever they want.

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7/5/2012 4:04:28 PM EDT
[#3]
Why can't they offer a discount to anyone  they want to?
 
7/5/2012 4:04:52 PM EDT
[#4]
It's a private business.  What they charge their customers is no one else's business.  They can offer discounts to anyone they please.  I guess that means that Government and military discounts will be outlawed in PA as well now huh?
7/5/2012 4:05:25 PM EDT
[#5]
Chick Fil-A did the same thing iirc?
 
7/5/2012 4:06:20 PM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


I own and operate a small business and ANY member of the clergy gets a discount: Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, doesn't matter.



If a Rabbi ever crossed my path, he'd get a discount too.



And beyond that, a private business should be able to do whatever they want.



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Not with John Wolff around town....the guy should fucking move.  He is the same dipshit that would build a house across the street from a racetrack and then call the newspaper and lawyer trying to the get the track shutdown.

 





7/5/2012 4:06:48 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
It's a private business.  What they charge their customers is no one else's business.  They can offer discounts to anyone they please.  I guess that means that Government and military discounts will be outlawed in PA as well now huh?


VERY MUCH THIS.  


Would anyone have griped it it were not members of a church that were getting a discount??
7/5/2012 4:07:00 PM EDT
[#8]
It's times like this when I really, really, REALLY hope there is a hell.  Damned worthless busybodies.  
7/5/2012 4:07:41 PM EDT
[#9]
America, land of the free.  
7/5/2012 4:07:55 PM EDT
[#10]
Oh Look Atheist being assholes again

7/5/2012 4:08:03 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Why can't they offer a discount to anyone  they want to?  


What the fuck do you think this is, a free country or something?

Been living in a cave?

7/5/2012 4:08:28 PM EDT
[#12]
The complaint was filed by John Wolff, a retired electrical engineer  and now full time holier-than-thou *sshole.

“I did this not out of spite, but out of a feeling against the prevailing self-righteousness that stems from religion, particular in Lancaster County,” Wolff told the York Daily Record. “I don’t consider it an earth-shaking affair, but in this area in particular, we seem to have so many self-righteous religious people, so it just annoys me"


An EE complaining about attitude? GMAFB



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7/5/2012 4:08:48 PM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Why can't they offer a discount to anyone  they want to?  




What the fuck do you think this is, a free country or something?



Been living in a cave?





Seems that way sometimes.



 
7/5/2012 4:09:54 PM EDT
[#14]
Where do you go to get freedom from the Freedom from Religion Foundation?
7/5/2012 4:09:56 PM EDT
[#15]
This is bullshit.  The restaurant can discount whoever they want.  What about the senior citizen discount??  Is that not discrimination based on age?  Screw this stupid people with their foolish agendas.



And the Chick-fila restaurants in the Gainesville, GA area do the same thing.

7/5/2012 4:11:06 PM EDT
[#16]
What does the "among other things" refer too?
7/5/2012 4:11:07 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
It's a private business.  What they charge their customers is no one else's business.  They can offer discounts to anyone they please.  I guess that means that Government and military discounts will be outlawed in PA as well now huh?





That was my first thought.
7/5/2012 4:13:26 PM EDT
[#18]
Seriously, though:

How hard would it be to make a Church Bulletin on your computer, and print it out.

Make it for the "Church of Satan" or something Wiccan.

7/5/2012 4:17:55 PM EDT
[#19]
And this is why people have a low option of atheist

7/5/2012 4:18:16 PM EDT
[#20]


Prudhomme said she began offering the discount a little more than a year ago. She said she has offered all kinds of discounts or incentives at various times, including some to senior citizens, early-bird diners, children under 12, people who shop at certain other Columbia businesses and even Columbia High School students.

"I thought it would be nice to do something for Sunday dinners and encourage people to come in," she said.

http://www.ydr.com/local/ci_20996278/atheist-files-complaint-over-restaurants-sunday-promotion

7/5/2012 4:19:23 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:


Prudhomme said she began offering the discount a little more than a year ago. She said she has offered all kinds of discounts or incentives at various times, including some to senior citizens, early-bird diners, children under 12, people who shop at certain other Columbia businesses and even Columbia High School students.

"I thought it would be nice to do something for Sunday dinners and encourage people to come in," she said.

http://www.ydr.com/local/ci_20996278/atheist-files-complaint-over-restaurants-sunday-promotion



Sounds like a smart business plan.
7/5/2012 4:19:33 PM EDT
[#22]
Moe's Southwest Grill in Memphis does that, bring in church program Sunday after Church, and get 10% off.



I really hate people who get in other people's shit that doesn't effect them in any way.....Control, it's all about control




I really hope these people (Prudhomme) fight this and win
7/5/2012 4:20:34 PM EDT
[#23]
As an atheist I say; fuck that guy.  

Their business, their rules.
7/5/2012 4:21:29 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Moe's Southwest Grill in Memphis does that, bring in church program Sunday after Church, and get 10% off.

I really hate people who get in other people's shit that doesn't effect them in any way.....Control, it's all about control

I really hope these people (Prudhomme) fight this and win


We get Moe's catered at work a lot.  TACO BUFFET!

Good stuff.

7/5/2012 4:21:49 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
As an atheist I say; fuck that guy.  

Their business, their rules.




Yea, but now you get lumped in with all of those nut jobs.

7/5/2012 4:22:30 PM EDT
[#26]
Every place offering a Old Fart discount should immediately stop offering it. Same for birthday discounts,

Privately owned, as far as I'm concerned they can offer whatever discount they want to.

And yeah, this particular  atheist is just a pissy old self hating git who absolutely did it out of spite.
7/5/2012 4:23:01 PM EDT
[#27]



Quoted:


As an atheist I say; fuck that guy.  



Their business, their rules.


Yep.  Private business, it's your right to discriminate however you see fit.  If that business model works for you, great, if it doesn't, too bad so sad.

 
7/5/2012 4:23:28 PM EDT
[#28]
Every place offering a Old Fart discount should immediately stop offering it. Same for birthday discounts,

Privately owned, as far as I'm concerned they can offer whatever discount they want to.

And yeah, this particular  atheist is just a pissy old self hating git who absolutely did it out of spite.
7/5/2012 4:24:14 PM EDT
[#29]



Quoted:


It's a private business.  What they charge their customers is no one else's business.  They can offer discounts to anyone they please.  I guess that means that Government and military discounts will be outlawed in PA as well now huh?


This is why  anti discrimination laws applying to private businesses need to be deleted immediately. They should be allowed to offer discounts or   refuse service to anyone for whatever reason they want to.



 
7/5/2012 4:27:33 PM EDT
[#30]




VIDEO:

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/christianity/video-atheist-john-wolff-files-complaint-against-restaurant-s-church-goer#


If anyone can get a church bulletin without attending church and get the discount I'm thinking he has no case.
7/5/2012 4:28:55 PM EDT
[#31]



Quoted:


And this is why people have a low option of atheist





And 2 reasons atheists, and Atheists alike dislike SOME Christians.



 
7/5/2012 4:29:00 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:

The FFRF demanded that she stop giving discounts to patrons who brought in a Sunday church bulletin.




So they're a bunch of statist thugs who want to dictate how a private enterprise is ran?

7/5/2012 4:29:18 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
As an atheist I say; fuck that guy.  

Their business, their rules.




Yea, but now you get lumped in with all of those nut jobs.


I'm a pilot so I'm lumped in with those nut jobs.
I'm a 2A lover so I'm lumped in with those nut jobs.
I'm a Korean cattle barron so I'm lumped in with those nut jobs.

Long story short I get lots of nut jobs.  
7/5/2012 4:29:55 PM EDT
[#34]
Sound more like an anti-theist than an atheist. Its not enough not to believe, he's got to strike out against those who do.
7/5/2012 4:30:11 PM EDT
[#35]
So much for coupons, AAA, AARP, etc..and this is why we can't have nice things.
7/5/2012 4:31:47 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
As an atheist I say; fuck that guy.  

Their business, their rules.




Yea, but now you get lumped in with all of those nut jobs.


I'm a pilot so I'm lumped in with those nut jobs.
I'm a 2A lover so I'm lumped in with those nut jobs.
I'm a Korean cattle barron so I'm lumped in with those nut jobs.


Long story short I get lots of nut jobs.  



That was not meant as a cut to you but to show how a few assholes make a whole group look bad

7/5/2012 4:32:14 PM EDT
[#37]
100% pure stupid here.

If I own a business, and I want to give a 10% discount to people like the article stated, that is MY choice. I am marketing myself at that group and not discriminating against anyone. Maybe next week I will give anyone who brings in proof they donated over $20 to a local charity that I support...again..my choice.

These militant Atheist/Anti-Religon types need to back off and worry about their own lives. If they don't like the fact that this place is doing this, they just should have their local friends vote with their wallets and not dine there.



7/5/2012 4:34:46 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/restaurant-faces-investigation-for-offering-church-discount.html



A family-owned restaurant in Pennsylvania is under a state discrimination investigation for offering a ten percent discount for diners who present a church bulletin on Sundays.

The Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission confirmed there is an investigation against Prudhomme’s Lost Cajun Kitchen in the town of Columbia. The complaint was filed by John Wolff, a retired electrical engineer.

“I did this not out of spite, but out of a feeling against the prevailing self-righteousness that stems from religion, particular in Lancaster County,” Wolff told the York Daily Record. “I don’t consider it an earth-shaking affair, but in this area in particular, we seem to have so many self-righteous religious people, so it just annoys me.”

According to the Pennsylvania Human Relations Act, a restaurant classified as a public accomodation.  As such, restaurants are not allowed to discriminate based on religion — among other things

Sharon Prudhomme, who owns the restaurant along with her husband, said she’s not discriminating against anybody – and plans on fighting the charges.

“What freaks me out is the state of Pennsylvania is basically agreeing with this guy,” Prudhomme told Fox News Radio. “We’re just a mom and pop. We’re not some big chain like the Olive Garden.”

Prudhomme said the trouble started in April of 2011 when she received the first of several letters from the Freedom From Religion Foundation. The FFRF is a Wisconsin-based organization of “more than 17,000 freethinkers, atheists, agnostics and skeptics,” according to its website.

The FFRF demanded that she stop giving discounts to patrons who brought in a Sunday church bulletin.


Lets see if I got this right This guy doesn't like self-righteous people so he decides to be self-righteous and teach them a lesson. By the way there is no discrimination, nothing is stopping him from going by the church and picking up a bulletin to take in for a discount.  He can most likely do it even if he is and atheist, if he has the guts to step through the front door of the church.

7/5/2012 4:35:41 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
As an atheist I say; fuck that guy.  

Their business, their rules.




Yea, but now you get lumped in with all of those nut jobs.


I'm a pilot so I'm lumped in with those nut jobs.
I'm a 2A lover so I'm lumped in with those nut jobs.
I'm a Korean cattle barron so I'm lumped in with those nut jobs.

Long story short I get lots of nut jobs.  


I had a Nut Job done last year.

Hurt like hell.

7/5/2012 4:40:37 PM EDT
[#40]
Pot meet kettle.  




Quoted:



"I did this not out of spite, but out of a feeling against the prevailing self-righteousness that stems from religion, particular in Lancaster County,” Wolff told the York Daily Record. "I don’t consider it an earth-shaking affair, but in this area in particular, we seem to have so many self-righteous religious people, so it just annoys me.”



 
7/5/2012 4:44:23 PM EDT
[#41]
he needs to be sued for interfering with a lawful business, and then beat with a stick






 
7/5/2012 4:46:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Meh.  If you want to do business with the public, follow the rules.



They should have just offered to print coupons on the church fliers, or post coupons on local church bulletin boards and there wouldn't be any fuss.

7/5/2012 4:48:12 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
And this is why people have a low option of atheist



Oh, I don't know.....I doubt a lot of people have low options of anything really.
7/5/2012 4:52:17 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Every place offering a Old Fart discount should immediately stop offering it. Same for birthday discounts,

Privately owned, as far as I'm concerned they can offer whatever discount they want to.

And yeah, this particular  atheist is just a pissy old self hating git who absolutely did it out of spite.









7/5/2012 4:53:32 PM EDT
[#45]



Quoted:


Meh.  If you want to do business with the public, follow the rules.



They should have just offered to print coupons on the church fliers, or post coupons on local church bulletin boards and there wouldn't be any fuss.



But that costs money!

 
7/5/2012 4:54:26 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Meh.  If you want to do business with the public, follow the rules.

They should have just offered to print coupons on the church fliers, or post coupons on local church bulletin boards and there wouldn't be any fuss.

But that costs money!  

Everybody sure does love making rules for other people to follow...
7/5/2012 4:55:55 PM EDT
[#47]


And <removed - T7> Atheists wonder why they have a bit of an image problem.





Condemn individuals who deserve it, not generalized comments based on religion - or lack thereof.

Thanks.

- T7
7/5/2012 4:56:27 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Meh.  If you want to do business with the public, follow the rules.

They should have just offered to print coupons on the church fliers, or post coupons on local church bulletin boards and there wouldn't be any fuss.

If I have a, say, Vegetarian place of dining, it is discrimination if I offer all the members of the local Buddhist Sanghas(congregation) a 10% discount? I would say..NO! I would call it marketing myself to a segment of the market where I know I might get some customers as I know that there are many Buddhists who are Vegetarian.

This is exactly the same, IMHO. The owners of this business know there are plenty of Chuch going locals who might go out to eat after service, so they marketed themselves at them. Last time I checked, it was not illegal in any state of the US to make such discount offers.

What this says to me is that a bunch of Atheist/Anti-Religon nuts got all butt hurt and are "trying to make a statement".  They need to STFU and get hit in court with a fine for wasting court time.
7/5/2012 4:57:35 PM EDT
[#49]
Wow, that's messed up. I personally don't know any atheists that would think it cool to prohibit this sort of discount practice. If you own a business, why shouldn't you be allowed to promote whatever interests you like?
7/5/2012 4:58:03 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Why can't they offer a discount to anyone  they want to?  


Because they are giving it to churchgoers, and hat pisses oldguy off.

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