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11/19/2017 1:21:09 AM EDT
[#1]
The Black Friday special is in store only, as I understand it.  Whatever lowers are left will be sold at that price over the phone starting Cyber Monday.

I may have talked him out of answering the phone on Friday.  

He's talking about free shipping for orders of 10 lowers.
11/19/2017 10:13:43 AM EDT
[#2]
So........
Here’s the route I’m gonna go with my lower.
It’s for my son/wife (that’s my story.....if you’re married you get it)

Lower
$20+$25 for transfer+$6 for shipping (I bought 2)

Upper receiver
$40
https://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XANA3LWT&name=Anderson+Manufacturing+Lightweight+Sport+AR+Upper+Receiver&groupid=4329

Barrel
$10

Gas tube/block
In safe

Trigger
In safe

Hand guard
http://www.chandlerhardwoods.com/product-p/ar15-15s.htm
$39

Sights
In safe

LPK
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-classic-lpk-w-o-fire-control-group.html
$31.99

http://www.tomstactical.com/toms-tactical-ar-15-lower-parts-kit-no-trigger-group

$28.95

Buffer
http://www.tomstactical.com/Toms-Tactical-AR-15-Mil-Spec-Carbine-Buffer-3-oz

$14

Charging handle
http://www.tomstactical.com/ar15-mi-spec-charging-handle-7075-t6

$16.95

BCG

http://www.tomstactical.com/toolcraft-bcg-bolt-carrier-group-black-nitride-ar-15-m16-5.56-223

$69.95

Still need a Carbine spring. May check the EE and see what parts I can snag.

$302 ish so far.
11/19/2017 8:26:14 PM EDT
[#3]
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So........
Here’s the route I’m gonna go with my lower.
It’s for my son/wife (that’s my story.....if you’re married you get it)

Hand guard
http://www.chandlerhardwoods.com/product-p/ar15-15s.htm
$39
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Do you have any experience with these? Any good?
11/19/2017 9:10:16 PM EDT
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Do you have any experience with these? Any good?
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No I do not.
Read about them here somewhere. How bad could they be?
A 12yr old will love it!
He will probably want to camo paint the whole thing anyway.
11/20/2017 11:33:53 AM EDT
[#5]
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No I do not.
Read about them here somewhere. How bad could they be?
A 12yr old will love it!
He will probably want to camo paint the whole thing anyway.
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True, at that price, I might put it in the mill and see just how light I can get it.
11/20/2017 12:42:03 PM EDT
[#6]
$199.99 AR-Stoner AR-15 Optics Ready Upper Receiver Assembly 5.56x45mm 16" Barrel MidwayUSA

One good review, One bad.
11/20/2017 1:18:41 PM EDT
[#7]
For those who bought a bunch of lowers, and want roll pins to retain the buffer retaining pin:
Roll Pins (Spring Pins) 5/64 x 1 Steel Lot of 50
$9.95 shipped for 50x (vs. $2 each from Cavalry Manufacturing)
11/20/2017 1:55:26 PM EDT
[#8]
PSA just posted their Black Friday uppers...

PSA Upper Sale
11/20/2017 2:02:02 PM EDT
[#9]
For the guy with the split magwell, just super glue it shut. If it wont hold the pin than just put a bolt thru the whole and slap a nut on the other side. You may need to shave a little plastic from the retaing pin hole depending on the bolt you use. And you need a wrench to take the upper off from now on. Mines been running fine for almost a decade now since i blew it up with shitty reloads.
11/20/2017 2:24:11 PM EDT
[#10]
Threw the Spike's 22lr M4 upper that's been sitting in the back of my safe on one of the lowers I picked up on Sunday:


Very tight fit on the rear pin (required a mallet to get it in and out). I don't think this is a lower I'll be swapping uppers on a bunch.
Comes it at 6 lbs even. Nice that the .22lr upper does not require a buffer weight or spring. I suppose the FGC will bump that up just a bit.
If I get really ambitious, I might take a Dremel to it, and attempt to skeletonize the mag well for a very cheap bastard child of an Era3 rifle.
11/21/2017 10:23:44 AM EDT
[#11]
Decent looking upper if you're trying to keep a build sub-$350:

$260
BROWNELLS - AR-15 COMPLETE UPPER RECEIVER BLACK KEYMOD 5.56
11/21/2017 5:23:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Picked up my two and put swapped a few parts over to one from my light weight build.  This is now a WWSD build.  Just have to order a solar Holo-sun and a sling.  I might swap out one of my MBT's from another lower to this one.  Can't decide.

11/21/2017 6:13:44 PM EDT
[#13]
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Picked up my two and put swapped a few parts over to one from my light weight build.  This is now a WWSD build.  Just have to order a solar Holo-sun and a sling.  I might swap out one of my MBT's from another lower to this one.  Can't decide.

https://i.imgur.com/3OnPu2R.jpg
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I like what you've done here.
11/21/2017 6:18:30 PM EDT
[#14]
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11/21/2017 6:41:07 PM EDT
[#15]
Dammit Richard got me again!

Ok, so here's the deal Friday.  In store only.  Don't call.

Saturday, no deal.  Don't call.  Don't email.

CYBER MONDAY is the online sale.  Starts at 10:00 AM.  Not sooner.

$20 per lower with pins, limit 2.  $5 blem lowers, missing pins, or buttplate (probably stripped buttplate nut), or cracked magwell, or cracked buffer tube, or all the above.

Orders $80 and above ship free.  Not valid outside CONUS.  Actual shipping for all other orders.

I will be in line Friday for my 10, and damn if he didn't get me on a lever shotgun as well.

Waiting on a return call from GWACS on the price on buttplates.
11/21/2017 6:51:40 PM EDT
[#16]
Crap I need to call Monday then. Will only get 2 but still.
11/21/2017 7:15:16 PM EDT
[#17]
Ok guys I've got a bit of an issue.....with all 5 lowers I snagged up none of them will fit either of my uppers albeit it is very very close (rear pin ever so slightly contacts the upper mounting hole thing)

I have the feeling it's just the molding excess crap on top and sanding all that off with fix it but still kinda bummed. If that's all it is I won't complain too much for the price and being able to give 3 more guys BRD
11/21/2017 7:25:52 PM EDT
[#18]
They're tight as a pre-birth control non-Greek virgin.  You pretty much have to pound the pins in until the upper wears in.  Keeps the pins from coming out when you shoot.
11/21/2017 8:06:16 PM EDT
[#19]
Grabbed my 2 today.

Here’s one



Here it is mocked up on my 18” upper.
Tight fit!



Anyone see my images?
11/21/2017 8:18:41 PM EDT
[#20]
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They're tight as a pre-birth control non-Greek virgin.  You pretty much have to pound the pins in until the upper wears in.  Keeps the pins from coming out when you shoot.
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The front pin was snug.

The rear......I could push in.....used the tip of a 223 to push it out!

Aero lower with grub screw under grip. May explain why it’s so tight.
11/21/2017 8:23:41 PM EDT
[#21]
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Grabbed my 2 today.

Here’s one

https://imgur.com/gallery/4RJlG
https://imgur.com/gallery/4RJlG

Here it is mocked up on my 18” upper.
Tight fit!

https://imgur.com/gallery/lc6vo

https://imgur.com/gallery/lc6vo

Anyone see my images?
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No. Use the image link button and paste the URL
11/21/2017 8:27:19 PM EDT
[#22]
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No. Use the image link button and paste the URL
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I did.
I think free members can’t embed pics?
11/21/2017 8:30:50 PM EDT
[#23]
You can.  I'm on a phone or I'd fix it.
11/21/2017 9:00:16 PM EDT
[#24]
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I did.
I think free members can’t embed pics?
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Looks like you're posting links to the gallery, not to the .jpg's themselves.  Might be the issue.
11/21/2017 9:37:16 PM EDT
[#25]
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Looks like you're posting links to the gallery, not to the .jpg's themselves.  Might be the issue.
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Thanks

Fixed the links in the post.
11/21/2017 10:47:01 PM EDT
[#26]
I was thinking of getting one of the PSA 7.5" upper pistol kits maybe just for grins on black friday. I have a new Anderson lower that has never been on a rifle (or anything else) and was thinking of maybe making a pistol AR.  But I can't really see the point other than maybe home defense.   I think they look cool but wouldn't a regular p229 or 226 be even more effective for that? The price would certainly be a fair amount cheaper, looks like less than $400 for the whole build (thanks PSA!) and I think it would be kinda fun to build but I just wonder if I'm missing other possible uses?
11/21/2017 11:08:24 PM EDT
[#27]
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Quoted:  I was thinking of getting one of the PSA 7.5" upper pistol kits maybe just for grins on black friday. I have a new Anderson lower that has never been on a rifle (or anything else) and was thinking of maybe making a pistol AR.  But I can't really see the point other than maybe home defense.   I think they look cool but wouldn't a regular p229 or 226 be even more effective for that? The price would certainly be a fair amount cheaper, looks like less than $400 for the whole build (thanks PSA!) and I think it would be kinda fun to build but I just wonder if I'm missing other possible uses?
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 You're asking on AR15.com if a SIG in 9x19mm, even in .357" SIG, would be more effective @ home defense than an AR-15 pistol?  In GD, no less.

Let's put it this way - does the Army clear rooms w/ Berettas or M4s?

On to Trinity Ordnance, before I update the OP.  For those of us who live locally:

11/21/2017 11:13:59 PM EDT
[#28]
@sinistralrifleman or @backbencher or anyone else who ends up with a broken $5 lower beyond repair:

I would like to add a sling attachment near the receiver end of the buffer tube.  It looks like echo93 used to offer a service where he milled a slot there as shown in this picture:



If I drill a hole in this area to run a loop of 550 cord through, will the stock be hollow or solid?

Looking from the butt end there is a floor to the inner compartment, and the stock does not appear to be hollow where the rear sling slot is moulded.  I am wondering if the plastic is solid between the "floor" of the inner compartment and the outside or hollow.
11/21/2017 11:19:02 PM EDT
[#29]
I found a place selling new stripped 3rd gen G17 frames for $75 ( plus $40 overnight shipping). One on the way, and I am not even a Glock fan. At that price, how can I say no?
11/21/2017 11:37:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Classic's got the $200 complete uppers back in stock, fellas!  Link in OP.

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@sinistralrifleman or backbencher or anyone else who ends up with a broken $5 lower beyond repair:

I would like to add a sling attachment near the receiver end of the buffer tube.  It looks like echo93 used to offer a service where he milled a slot there as shown in this picture:

https://sinistralrifleman.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/cav-15-18.jpg

If I drill a hole in this area to run a loop of 550 cord through, will the stock be hollow or solid?

Looking from the butt end there is a floor to the inner compartment, and the stock does not appear to be hollow where the rear sling slot is moulded.  I am wondering if the plastic is solid between the "floor" of the inner compartment and the outside or hollow.
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Sinistral will know better than I, but I'll bet it's a honeycomb.  So you may drill through mostly air, or you might hit a plastic rib that goes all the way through.  If you look @ the pics of my pistol lower, you can see some of the reinforcement they used.  I don't know how they did it in the web of the extended buffer tube boss, but I expect the same construction there.

The $5 lowers won't be beyond repair, or no one would buy them.

1)  Cracked magwell - glue it, as someone above suggested, or just use a clevis pin and washers to hold the upper on and the magwell tight.

2)  Missing buttplate/loose nut in the butt - Locktite the nut, and order a replacement buttplate from GWACS (still waiting on a price), fab a buttplate yourself, or cut it down into a pistol as I did.

3)  Missing pins - order pins from GWACS or Cav Mfg for $10, or use clevis pins from Home Depot/Lowe's, much cheaper.

4)  Cracked buffer tube - glue, or Sinistral may have advice on this one.  A soldering iron might work.  I might just use duct tape - I'm giving the $5 lowers away.

If none of that works?  Call GWACS, send them the one you paid all of $5 for, and they'll send you a brand new one for $35 + shipping to your LGS.  They sell their lowers new for $129, albeit I think they offer ARFCOMers a 5% discount, or used to.
11/21/2017 11:48:24 PM EDT
[#31]
I had forgotten about your pistol lower.  What I can see of your pics makes it look like it would be hollow once you get very far up from the outside.

Thanks
11/21/2017 11:48:28 PM EDT
[#32]
On the way back from Fort Benning 3 Gun.   I'll type up answers when I'm at a desk top.  Typing too much mobile is frustrating.
11/21/2017 11:51:20 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Dammit Richard got me again!

Ok, so here's the deal Friday.  In store only.  Don't call.

Saturday, no deal.  Don't call.  Don't email.

CYBER MONDAY is the online sale.  Starts at 10:00 AM.  Not sooner.

$20 per lower with pins, limit 2.  $5 blem lowers, missing pins, or buttplate (probably stripped buttplate nut), or cracked magwell, or cracked buffer tube, or all the above.

Orders $80 and above ship free.  Not valid outside CONUS.  Actual shipping for all other orders.

I will be in line Friday for my 10, and damn if he didn't get me on a lever shotgun as well.

Waiting on a return call from GWACS on the price on buttplates.
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I talked to a nice lady there Monday morning. She took my name and number. She said she would put me on a list and call me for the Cyber Monday deal. Do you think that is still in play?
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I was thinking of getting one of the PSA 7.5" upper pistol kits maybe just for grins on black friday. I have a new Anderson lower that has never been on a rifle (or anything else) and was thinking of maybe making a pistol AR.  But I can't really see the point other than maybe home defense.   I think they look cool but wouldn't a regular p229 or 226 be even more effective for that? The price would certainly be a fair amount cheaper, looks like less than $400 for the whole build (thanks PSA!) and I think it would be kinda fun to build but I just wonder if I'm missing other possible uses?
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Inspirational 7.5 psa pistol pic. I just put this together.

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11/22/2017 12:00:44 AM EDT
[#34]
I ordered one of these with plans to drill and bolt it with a metal backing plate inside:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075X49KRW

Hopefully it will end up like this:



It just occurred to me that if the area was solid I could simply drill a hole and run some paracord through which would be simpler and cheaper.

I had also thought about using one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002E6NDX4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511323097&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=harris+%232+hollow

But I am not sure it would have enough support.
11/22/2017 12:02:28 AM EDT
[#35]
That $200 upper plus This $99 complete lower. $300 complete ar15.

Never mind.  Thought it was billet.
11/22/2017 12:14:49 AM EDT
[#36]
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Quoted:  That $200 upper plus This $99 complete lower. $300 complete ar15.

Never mind.  Thought it was billet.
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Still not a terrible deal.  The Sabre Defense lowers will be a lot stronger than a normal polymer one, though.  They go to great lengths in that ad copy to not say polymer, lol.
11/22/2017 12:15:57 AM EDT
[#37]
Also.

My build.

$25 lower after shipping and transfer fee. (5@$100 plus $25 transfer for all 5)

$20 lower parts kit.

$17 buffer and spring.

$200 complete upper.

$0 Had a trigger.

$262 complete AR build. Never thought I would see these days.
11/22/2017 12:18:01 AM EDT
[#38]
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Quoted:  I ordered one of these with plans to drill and bolt it with a metal backing plate inside:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075X49KRW

Hopefully it will end up like this:

http://jerkingthetrigger.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/E93-CAV-15-Modifications-Sling-Mount.jpg

It just occurred to me that if the area was solid I could simply drill a hole and run some paracord through which would be simpler and cheaper.

I had also thought about using one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002E6NDX4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511323097&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=harris+%232+hollow

But I am not sure it would have enough support.
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I think it will.  My question is does the cleaning kit storage compartment go far enough forward for you to fit that where you want it?

I think you can see from my pistol pics, it's not solid inside.  It's a honeycomb of reinforcing ribs.
11/22/2017 12:20:19 AM EDT
[#39]
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Quoted:  On the way back from Fort Benning 3 Gun.   I'll type up answers when I'm at a desk top.  Typing too much mobile is frustrating.
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We'll wait.  You're going to have a LOT of folks hanging on your every word as to how to get these blems running cheaply.

I've done a lot of updates in this thread from my phone, and the harder stuff I leave til I get back to the laptop.
11/22/2017 12:26:53 AM EDT
[#40]
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Quoted:  I talked to a nice lady there Monday morning. She took my name and number. She said she would put me on a list and call me for the Cyber Monday deal. Do you think that is still in play?
Inspirational 7.5 psa pistol pic. I just put this together.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/155324/IMG_20170729_140456708-369776.JPG
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From my understanding of what Richard told me today, any calls/emails after the last deal was complete do not reserve any lowers.  Cyber Monday is Cyber Monday.  Emails and phone calls starting @ 10:00 AM, not before.

If you can get to the store on Friday, $80 gets you 2 good lowers & 8 blems.  I'll be there.
11/22/2017 12:43:02 AM EDT
[#41]
I think it will.  It goes pretty far forward.
11/22/2017 12:56:23 AM EDT
[#42]
tag
11/22/2017 2:27:00 AM EDT
[#43]
This might be a better option as the outer plate is larger to distribute the force over a greater area:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B019GTR1NO/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A2Y8HKA0L4ETQM&psc=1
11/22/2017 12:38:10 PM EDT
[#44]
These might come in handy:

http://www.jsesurplus.com/limbsaversliponmedbuttpad.aspx

$5:

11/22/2017 4:21:26 PM EDT
[#45]
@motown_steve will be there Friday.  Myself.  Who else?

@sample

@maggiethecat

@LadybirdJ
11/22/2017 4:23:41 PM EDT
[#46]
I thought it was a Veteran's day sale? It black Friday now too?
As is, my build plans have changed so I dont need one now.  More for those who do.
11/22/2017 4:28:40 PM EDT
[#47]
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Quoted:  I thought it was a Veteran's day sale? It black Friday now too?
As is, my build plans have changed so I dont need one now.  More for those who do.
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Yep - he sold enough online and in store on Veteran's Day to get down to the blems, and had to order pins.  He's got enough pins now to sell 2 lowers per for $20 ea, and the rest are blems @ $5 ea.

$5 lowers are stocking stuffers.  
11/22/2017 4:56:44 PM EDT
[#48]
Anything cheaper than this? Has everything except trigger guard and grip.
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11/22/2017 6:31:41 PM EDT
[#49]
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Anything cheaper than this? Has everything except trigger guard and grip.
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Anything cheaper than this? Has everything except trigger guard and grip.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/195976/2017-11-22_13-370279.JPG
Not cheaper, but only a few bucks more ($40, albeit with shipping) at Right to Bear.

Have no idea who "Fire for Effect" is, but I tend to trust RTB not to sell garbage.  Not so sure about random joe on Ebay.

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@motown_steve will be there Friday.  Myself.  Who else?

@sample

@maggiethecat

@LadybirdJ
Unlikely to be up early on the first sleep-late day of my only 4-day weekend in forever and a day.  Sorry to miss you and @motown_steve, and Richard, and the deal, but I think I have enough receivers for now anyway.  Tell Richard hi from me.  Glad he's managing to move all of these receivers.  I know he's been wanting to for a long time.

BTW @backbencher, another $200 complete upper (no sights) at Midway right now as well as partially-sighted uppers at PSA starting at $250.
11/22/2017 6:41:43 PM EDT
[#50]
Will do.

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