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11/6/2017 3:26:14 PM EDT
[#1]
Fent for 5.
11/6/2017 3:28:49 PM EDT
[#2]
Me too.
11/6/2017 3:49:10 PM EDT
[#3]
I am weak.
11/6/2017 4:02:23 PM EDT
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I meant to ask what the limit was is
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By the time you're reached the limit there's a BATFE agent asking if you're giving all those away for Christmas or he can he buy a few off you and give you a little something for your trouble?

Apparently 10.  See below.
11/6/2017 4:04:57 PM EDT
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I meant to ask what the limit was is
By the time you're reached the limit there's a BATFE agent asking if you're giving all those away for Christmas or he can he buy a few off you and give you a little something for your trouble?
I read some comments on their Facebook, they said they prefer to sell them in lots of 5 or 10.
11/6/2017 4:08:21 PM EDT
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By the time you're reached the limit there's a BATFE agent asking if you're giving all those away for Christmas or he can he buy a few off you and give you a little something for your trouble?
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 Just told me 10
11/6/2017 4:32:03 PM EDT
[#7]
Just got done ordering 5.  They know the website is down.
11/6/2017 9:43:55 PM EDT
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11/6/2017 11:23:54 PM EDT
[#9]
Ordered 5
11/6/2017 11:24:35 PM EDT
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And here we go!

It's legal as a pistol lower b/c it was never assembled as a rifle or shotgun.  You can buy an number of new fully assembled AR lowers, remove the carbine stock, and throw on a sub 16" bbl upper.  Voila!  Legal AR pistol.

I ordered 2 of the .223" uppers.  If they have rusty bores, they'll go back.  I bought my 5.7x28mm upper off Classic and have been quite happy w/ it.
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I had the impression that if it had ever had a stock attached it was considered a rifle receiver. If I was wrong, good-it's a stupid fucking law anyway.
11/6/2017 11:51:14 PM EDT
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The dealers selling "pistol" marked lowers and "pistol" buffer tubes would like you to believe that, but Federal law is that it has to be an assembled rifle 1st.  A buttstock on a lower receiver is insufficient for that definition.
11/7/2017 10:08:37 AM EDT
[#12]
At $20 it's hard not to buy one just for a .22lr build or gift or just to throw your extra parts onto to make a functional firearm, just cause.
11/7/2017 10:17:36 AM EDT
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At $20 it's hard not to buy one five just for a .22lr build or gift or just to throw your extra parts onto to make a functional firearm, just cause.
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FIFY  
11/7/2017 10:24:52 AM EDT
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These last 5 were my,"Oh, you don't have a gun?  Here, have a gun," lowers.
11/7/2017 1:16:46 PM EDT
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At $20 it's hard not to buy one just for a .22lr build or gift or just to throw your extra parts onto to make a functional firearm, just cause.
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Exactly.

Then I start to ponder if I should write the $200 check to SBR a $20 lower for an ultralightweight .22lr build... 
11/7/2017 2:25:18 PM EDT
[#16]
I wonder how many of these they have.
11/7/2017 5:12:53 PM EDT
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Can someone confirm the length of pull on these?

How much can they be cut down?


What is involved in cutting them down?  Does the buttplate need to be ground down?  Is there still something left to screw the buttplate to, or do you have to come up with some sort of fix?


Thanks
11/7/2017 5:18:34 PM EDT
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11/7/2017 5:22:31 PM EDT
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Quoted:  Can someone confirm the length of pull on these?

How much can they be cut down?

What is involved in cutting them down?  Does the buttplate need to be ground down?  Is there still something left to screw the buttplate to, or do you have to come up with some sort of fix?

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To the end of the carbine length buffer tube.  Beyond, if you're making a .22" LR or you're using an ARAK or other non-buffered upper.

Dremel, chop saw, hacksaw, hotwire knife, a really long time w/ sandpaper, what have you.

No, buttplate unscrews.  Two separate sizes of hex nuts.  

No, there are steel screw threads embedded in the rear of the stock which you've just cut off, and you'll have to cut the buttplate down to fit the smaller butt once you cut the stock down, so you'll probably need to glue it unless you're making a pistol, see above.
11/7/2017 5:38:17 PM EDT
[#20]
Why would anyone want one of these ugly things?







































I ordered two of them

Have always been kind of interested in them, albeit in one of the non-traditional colors, but for the price I will take black. OP, thanks for the info on these
11/7/2017 5:51:11 PM EDT
[#21]
Quite welcome.  When Andersons got down to $30, I wondered how he was gonna sell em.  5x for $100 w/ free shipping is a pretty good answer, I think.

I wish I was gonna be there Saturday, but I'll have to drown my sorrows in Tulsa w/ 40xb.  Going to the museum Friday.  
11/7/2017 10:39:19 PM EDT
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Are they still available? How exactly does this transfer by, is it considered a rifle since it can only have a stock. or is it still considered an other? 1 more year until im out of purgatory and buy the fun stuff
11/7/2017 10:48:29 PM EDT
[#23]
Those are fugly as fuck.
11/7/2017 10:51:26 PM EDT
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It's an other.  It can be built into a rifle or shotgun - or if you're handy w/ a Dremel, a very ugly AR pistol.  So yeah, you gotta be 21 to order em or have a really friendly FFL who will store em for you for a year.

As far as I'm aware, he's still got 'em - and is planning to be selling them over the counter on Saturday.
11/8/2017 12:36:17 PM EDT
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Ugly is as ugly does.  i find their length of pull to be just right.  Saves me from having to invest in a receiver extension, castle nut and retainer plate.
11/8/2017 4:40:34 PM EDT
[#26]
So, does anyone know if you have to use the Olympic .45 uppers or if there are others that work?
11/8/2017 4:48:09 PM EDT
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Think Rudy has built uppers on these:  @Mad-Machinist
11/9/2017 10:02:00 AM EDT
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Classic has sold out of the $200 complete uppers.  You can buy the same thing directly from Bear Creek for $251:

http://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/upper-assemblies/bca-branded-16-6-5-grendel-type-ii-ar-15-complete-upper-assembly-ua6-5cm41618-p-shg

The owner of Trinity Ordnance texted me a video last night of lowers strewn around the shop as they were packing them.  He then texted me after midnight saying they've packed 25% of the orders last night & they were headed home.  He lowballed the shipping on these, as it turns out, so even if he runs this sale again, shipping will be higher.  Some of y'all will probably not ship until next week, as they're also getting the shop ready for the Customer Appreciation Party.  There is still time to order.
11/9/2017 11:15:58 AM EDT
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Classic has sold out of the $200 complete uppers.  You can buy the same thing directly from Bear Creek for $251:

http://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/upper-assemblies/bca-branded-16-6-5-grendel-type-ii-ar-15-complete-upper-assembly-ua6-5cm41618-p-shg

The owner of Trinity Ordnance texted me a video last night of lowers strewn around the shop as they were packing them.  He then texted me after midnight saying they've packed 25% of the orders last night & they were headed home.  He lowballed the shipping on these, as it turns out, so even if he runs this sale again, shipping will be higher.  Some of y'all will probably not ship until next week, as they're also getting the shop ready for the Customer Appreciation Party.  There is still time to order.
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they do have the uppers minus bcg and ch for 129 dollars.  that is a deal really,  I mean who doesnt have an extra bdg or ch laying in the parts bin
11/9/2017 11:31:00 AM EDT
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they do have the uppers minus bcg and ch for 129 dollars.  that is a deal really,  I mean who doesnt have an extra bdg or ch laying in the parts bin
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Classic has sold out of the $200 complete uppers.  You can buy the same thing directly from Bear Creek for $251:

http://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/upper-assemblies/bca-branded-16-6-5-grendel-type-ii-ar-15-complete-upper-assembly-ua6-5cm41618-p-shg

The owner of Trinity Ordnance texted me a video last night of lowers strewn around the shop as they were packing them.  He then texted me after midnight saying they've packed 25% of the orders last night & they were headed home.  He lowballed the shipping on these, as it turns out, so even if he runs this sale again, shipping will be higher.  Some of y'all will probably not ship until next week, as they're also getting the shop ready for the Customer Appreciation Party.  There is still time to order.
they do have the uppers minus bcg and ch for 129 dollars.  that is a deal really,  I mean who doesnt have an extra bdg or ch laying in the parts bin
Right to Bear Arms Supply has 158/MPI/Tool Steel Extractor BCGs for $67.  Throw in $10 CH and your likely ahead on quality and close on price. Specs below

Toolcraft Phosphate 158 Bolt Carrier Group - MPI Bolt - M16 Carrier

This Toolcraft MPI inspected 158 Phosphate BCG comes with a lifetime warranty and is perfect for any AR15, M4 or M16 Build. Toolcraft carriers and bolts are build to military specifications, also known as "Mil-Spec" and they are known throughout the industry as some of the best. 

Toolcraft Bolt Carrier Groups come with a lifetime warranty! 

  • Mil-spec carpenter No. 158® steel (bolt)
  • Bolt is shot Peened and MPI
  • 8620 Tool Steel (Carrier)
  • Chrome Lined Carrier & Gas key
  • Mil-Spec Extractor Spring, black extractor insert, Viton O-Ring
  • Tool Steel Extractor
  • Shrouded Firing Pin
  • Mil-Spec Gas Key (4130 Steel) attached with Grade 8 hardware and Properly staked
11/9/2017 12:40:24 PM EDT
[#31]
Sweet!  Once I get back from Tulsa I think we'll keep this thread going w/ the pre-Christmas sales.  We should be able to keep it pretty close to $300.

Trinity Ordnance just texted me they are shipping some of the orders today.  Specifically NOT yours.  You.  That is reading this.  Yours is NOT shipping today.  It didn't ship yet.  It won't ship til next week.  But other folks' lowers shipped today.  Just not yours.  
11/9/2017 12:50:37 PM EDT
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Watch the video.  Can your Anderson handle being shot through the magwell?  These have the stock built into the lower, so they don't have the weak point at the buffer tube boss.
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Oh FFS
11/9/2017 12:51:41 PM EDT
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UGH  trying to find a local FFL in WA that wont hose me for each serial...
11/9/2017 12:56:41 PM EDT
[#34]
Maybe sound loan? Not sure.
11/9/2017 1:16:35 PM EDT
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Trinity Ordnance just texted me they are shipping some of the orders today.  Specifically NOT yours.  You.  That is reading this.  Yours is NOT shipping today.  It didn't ship yet.  It won't ship til next week.  But other folks' lowers shipped today.  Just not yours.  
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That's cool. Psychological research has linked delayed gratification to a host of positive outcomes. 
11/9/2017 1:21:30 PM EDT
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Bear Creek Arsenal is also giving away barrels to vets for Veterans day.

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11/9/2017 2:55:55 PM EDT
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Bear Creek Arsenal is also giving away barrels to vets for Veterans day.

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Yep.  I chose the $100 bbl and $10 flat rate shipping.  Total bill:  $10.
11/9/2017 3:23:58 PM EDT
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Yep.  I chose the $100 bbl and $10 flat rate shipping.  Total bill:  $10.
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Yup me too. I may chuck it in the lathe to make a pencil barrel for a light weight build on one of these lowers.
11/9/2017 3:30:45 PM EDT
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For my budget upper I did :

AR stoner Nitrided Barrel assembly 1 in 7 twist. $130
Right to bear assembled upper $50
Nitrided Toolcraft BCG with CH $75
Used UTG pro quad rail $40

Was worth paying a bit more for Nitrided stuff.
11/9/2017 3:49:01 PM EDT
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7 hour countdown until I leave for Tulsa. Woot!
11/9/2017 6:43:39 PM EDT
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I hesitated because I didn't want to go through the hassle, but yep, they had Sound Loan on file.   5 on the way. 
OP will have to get us a total number sold on Monday!
11/9/2017 6:58:29 PM EDT
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Bear Creek Arsenal is also giving away barrels to vets for Veterans day.

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That is pretty cool
11/9/2017 7:36:33 PM EDT
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$23 lower adjusted for shipping
$25 transfer fee
$53.xx lower parts with buffer and spring, less trigger(had spare in parts bin)
$239.xx bear creek upper with carry handle, shipped
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$340.xx is what I will have invested
11/9/2017 7:47:44 PM EDT
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I hesitated because I didn't want to go through the hassle, but yep, they had Sound Loan on file.   5 on the way. 
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I asked the gentleman I placed my order with the other day if they had been getting alot of orders for these.

He didn't give me a number.

His response was "...SIGH....Oh my God, YES!"

They had to have been sitting on an assload of these things.
11/9/2017 7:51:38 PM EDT
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They just called and left me a VM about 20 minutes ago.
Of course I was in th shower.......
My LGS hasn’t sent them the FFL paperwork yet.

Must mean they are shipping them now.
11/9/2017 8:34:24 PM EDT
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Gonna beatcha.  Will be at the museum tomorrow.  My buddy's not coming.
11/9/2017 9:25:08 PM EDT
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Holy shit, that's cool of them to do. Just emailed to see if it's still active(can't find anything posted on their site about it).
11/9/2017 11:30:53 PM EDT
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Holy shit, that's cool of them to do. Just emailed to see if it's still active(can't find anything posted on their site about it).
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I got this info off their Facebook page
11/10/2017 10:16:22 AM EDT
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I was bummed that I missed the $200 uppers from Classic,but then got an email from Primary Arms last night that had this on sale...

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A bit of a direction change from what I had intended with the one I was going to build out right now, but still happy with it.
11/10/2017 12:43:31 PM EDT
[#50]
FFL called and said I have a package!

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