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Posted: 12/6/2022 9:08:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Word in the trees is to stay away from Stihl silver or platinum (whatever they call it) oil. I only use the orange bottle and mix 40:1. No problems with it. |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 10:38:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stihl hp ultra synthetic does not perform very well as you say. I only use the orange bottle and mix 40:1. No problems with it. I keep hearing this and there are too many forum threads regarding oil, but I have yet to stumble across one that provides solid evidence of HP Ultra being bad or solely at fault for engine failure. So what is it about this oil that is bad? Can someone point to specific cases where it caused engine failure? I'm asking because I've been running this oil in 5 saws and a Stihl edger for 5 years now, at 50:1, and haven't noticed anything. I'm tempted to pull mufflers and look at the piston. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 1:14:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I keep hearing this and there are too many forum threads regarding oil, but I have yet to stumble across one that provides solid evidence of HP Ultra being bad or solely at fault for engine failure. So what is it about this oil that is bad? Can someone point to specific cases where it caused engine failure? I'm asking because I've been running this oil in 5 saws and a Stihl edger for 5 years now, at 50:1, and haven't noticed anything. I'm tempted to pull mufflers and look at the piston. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Stihl hp ultra synthetic does not perform very well as you say. I only use the orange bottle and mix 40:1. No problems with it. I keep hearing this and there are too many forum threads regarding oil, but I have yet to stumble across one that provides solid evidence of HP Ultra being bad or solely at fault for engine failure. So what is it about this oil that is bad? Can someone point to specific cases where it caused engine failure? I'm asking because I've been running this oil in 5 saws and a Stihl edger for 5 years now, at 50:1, and haven't noticed anything. I'm tempted to pull mufflers and look at the piston. Some of it was that it is a dated oil that does not protect as well as it use to. (I have run across this on some snogo oils and had to change) If I run across it again I will post screen shots or links. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 1:55:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A couple of the chainsaw and outdoor equipment sites had the info. Some of it was that it is a dated oil that does not protect as well as it use to. (I have run across this on some snogo oils and had to change) If I run across it again I will post screen shots or links. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Stihl hp ultra synthetic does not perform very well as you say. I only use the orange bottle and mix 40:1. No problems with it. I keep hearing this and there are too many forum threads regarding oil, but I have yet to stumble across one that provides solid evidence of HP Ultra being bad or solely at fault for engine failure. So what is it about this oil that is bad? Can someone point to specific cases where it caused engine failure? I'm asking because I've been running this oil in 5 saws and a Stihl edger for 5 years now, at 50:1, and haven't noticed anything. I'm tempted to pull mufflers and look at the piston. Some of it was that it is a dated oil that does not protect as well as it use to. (I have run across this on some snogo oils and had to change) If I run across it again I will post screen shots or links. From what I remember it came down to two oil choices which was #1 the Echo brand and #2 the Husky. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 7:21:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A couple of the chainsaw and outdoor equipment sites had the info. Some of it was that it is a dated oil that does not protect as well as it use to. (I have run across this on some snogo oils and had to change) If I run across it again I will post screen shots or links. I’d like to see it too….since Stihl recommends the ultra and even extends the saw’s warranty a year if you buy a 6 pack with the saw. So either Stihl thinks it’s good or is counting on people forgetting they have the longer warranty when their saw breaks. 
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Posted: 12/7/2022 12:47:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d like to see it too….since Stihl recommends the ultra and even extends the saw’s warranty a year if you buy a 6 pack with the saw. So either Stihl thinks it’s good or is counting on people forgetting they have the longer warranty when their saw breaks. Or the other side it is good enough to get pass the extended warranty period then the tool dies? I think that if you use any quality 2-cycle oil and go with the recommended ratio or slightly richer, and use NON-ETHANOL gas your tool will last a fairly decent amount of time. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 1:44:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or the other side it is good enough to get pass the extended warranty period then the tool dies? I think that if you use any quality 2-cycle oil and go with the recommended ratio or slightly richer, and use NON-ETHANOL gas your tool will last a fairly decent amount of time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’d like to see it too….since Stihl recommends the ultra and even extends the saw’s warranty a year if you buy a 6 pack with the saw. So either Stihl thinks it’s good or is counting on people forgetting they have the longer warranty when their saw breaks. Or the other side it is good enough to get pass the extended warranty period then the tool dies? I think that if you use any quality 2-cycle oil and go with the recommended ratio or slightly richer, and use NON-ETHANOL gas your tool will last a fairly decent amount of time. Anything is possible but as an engineer in a manufacturing environment my guess is the engineering department at Stihl put out a minimum requirement spec for the oil, purchasing found a few vendors that would meet or exceed the spec, senior leadership pushed to the lowest cost product that meets the minimum spec. I agree with the bold part 100%.....I think a lot of the "oil wars" in the 2-cycle world are like the Ford vs Chevy thing. Some advantages from brand to brand are measurable and some are just opinions based on "I grew up using that brand". Quality gas is probably the thing that screws people up the most. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 2:17:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: Or the other side it is good enough to get pass the extended warranty period then the tool dies? I think that if you use any quality 2-cycle oil and go with the recommended ratio or slightly richer, and use NON-ETHANOL gas your tool will last a fairly decent amount of time. Quoted: Anything is possible but as an engineer in a manufacturing environment my guess is the engineering department at Stihl put out a minimum requirement spec for the oil, purchasing found a few vendors that would meet or exceed the spec, senior leadership pushed to the lowest cost product that meets the minimum spec. I agree with the bold part 100%.....I think a lot of the "oil wars" in the 2-cycle world are like the Ford vs Chevy thing. Some advantages from brand to brand are measurable and some are just opinions based on "I grew up using that brand". Quality gas is probably the thing that screws people up the most. Polaris had a formulation of synthetic oil that was the tits but later found it would incourage rusting,run hotter and also not stick to the metal. It maybe the same with the stihl ultra. I use the orange bottle stihl and so far no problems but I do mix for 40:1. Dealer only carries the orange bottle. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 4:16:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: I keep hearing this and there are too many forum threads regarding oil, but I have yet to stumble across one that provides solid evidence of HP Ultra being bad or solely at fault for engine failure. So what is it about this oil that is bad? Can someone point to specific cases where it caused engine failure? I'm asking because I've been running this oil in 5 saws and a Stihl edger for 5 years now, at 50:1, and haven't noticed anything. I'm tempted to pull mufflers and look at the piston. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 4:23:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryCliffs? Which oil and what ratio for stihl pro saws? |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 6:16:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or the other side it is good enough to get pass the extended warranty period then the tool dies? I think that if you use any quality 2-cycle oil and go with the recommended ratio or slightly richer, and use NON-ETHANOL gas your tool will last a fairly decent amount of time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’d like to see it too….since Stihl recommends the ultra and even extends the saw’s warranty a year if you buy a 6 pack with the saw. So either Stihl thinks it’s good or is counting on people forgetting they have the longer warranty when their saw breaks. Or the other side it is good enough to get pass the extended warranty period then the tool dies? I think that if you use any quality 2-cycle oil and go with the recommended ratio or slightly richer, and use NON-ETHANOL gas your tool will last a fairly decent amount of time. Most new saws are capable of running E10 without hurting the saw. It is better to run higher octane with oil that has fuel stabilizer (which more 2 stroke oils do) than to run too low an octane that is ethanol free. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 6:32:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cliffs? Which oil and what ratio for stihl pro saws? In 2 cycle engines, the oil in the mix drops out of suspension when it meets the hot crankcase. It migrates slowly out of the case into the cylinder. There has to be enough where some is left over. 50:1 in blowers and other light load engines is probably fine but saws are not light load engines. Echo Red Armor is highly regarded and is readily available. Amsoil is great but don't fall for the 100:1 BS. VP oil is good and available at WM. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 7:02:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most new saws are capable of running E10 without hurting the saw. It is better to run higher octane with oil that has fuel stabilizer (which more 2 stroke oils do) than to run too low an octane that is ethanol free. The saw may be fine running E10, the issue is the water that it attracts to the fuel, especially hear on the wetside of WA. So if using E10 fuel, you need to use very fresh fuel. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 8:14:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I keep hearing this and there are too many forum threads regarding oil, but I have yet to stumble across one that provides solid evidence of HP Ultra being bad or solely at fault for engine failure. So what is it about this oil that is bad? Can someone point to specific cases where it caused engine failure? I'm asking because I've been running this oil in 5 saws and a Stihl edger for 5 years now, at 50:1, and haven't noticed anything. I'm tempted to pull mufflers and look at the piston. I watched a lot of his videos. Anyone who opens with yelling "this oil sucks" loses credibility in my book. Given the sheer numbers of videos he has produced bashing this product, this guy comes off as an angry old man with a personal vendetta against Stihl oil. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 9:05:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The saw may be fine running E10, the issue is the water that it attracts to the fuel, especially hear on the wetside of WA. So if using E10 fuel, you need to use very fresh fuel. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Most new saws are capable of running E10 without hurting the saw. It is better to run higher octane with oil that has fuel stabilizer (which more 2 stroke oils do) than to run too low an octane that is ethanol free. The saw may be fine running E10, the issue is the water that it attracts to the fuel, especially hear on the wetside of WA. So if using E10 fuel, you need to use very fresh fuel. Yes, sorry should have clarified only make small batches of fuel if E10 |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:15:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I watched a lot of his videos. Anyone who opens with yelling "this oil sucks" loses credibility in my book. Given the sheer numbers of videos he has produced bashing this product, this guy comes off as an angry old man with a personal vendetta against Stihl oil. Others are seeing the damage. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 2:02:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He is right about the stihl ultra oil. Others are seeing the damage. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I watched a lot of his videos. Anyone who opens with yelling "this oil sucks" loses credibility in my book. Given the sheer numbers of videos he has produced bashing this product, this guy comes off as an angry old man with a personal vendetta against Stihl oil. Others are seeing the damage. I spent another couple of hours surfing for answers tonight and hit on a few things that would steer me away from HP Ultra 1) It's biodegradable in 21 days and only has a shelf life of 4 years. This is a flag that Stihl is pushing environmental concerns over engine protection. (sidebar, but I'm tired of them ramming electric chainsaws down my throat in ads) I already hate the fixed oilers of the newer saws like the MS291 that only oil the bar at the minimum rate that was available on the older MS290s. There is evidence that Stihl is pushing a environmental agenda over performance. 2) JASO ratings. Stihl HP Ultra is only rated at JASO FB, while Red Armor is rated at FD. Now lubricity is SUPPOSE to be the same between FB, FC, and FD, but with better detergents, there are plenty of videos showing Red Armor cleaning up combustion chambers and spark arrestors. Now this may be due to the users testing Red Armor running their equipment at WOT for full tanks, so heating may be a factor. However carbon buildup is never a good thing for engines. Carbon clogs the exhaust and can create hot spots on the piston that lead to detonation. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 3:28:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I spent another couple of hours surfing for answers tonight and hit on a few things that would steer me away from HP Ultra 1) It's biodegradable in 21 days and only has a shelf life of 4 years. This is a flag that Stihl is pushing environmental concerns over engine protection. (sidebar, but I'm tired of them ramming electric chainsaws down my throat in ads) I already hate the fixed oilers of the newer saws like the MS291 that only oil the bar at the minimum rate that was available on the older MS290s. There is evidence that Stihl is pushing a environmental agenda over performance. 2) JASO ratings. Stihl HP Ultra is only rated at JASO FB, while Red Armor is rated at FD. Now lubricity is SUPPOSE to be the same between FB, FC, and FD, but with better detergents, there are plenty of videos showing Red Armor cleaning up combustion chambers and spark arrestors. Now this may be due to the users testing Red Armor running their equipment at WOT for full tanks, so heating may be a factor. However carbon buildup is never a good thing for engines. Carbon clogs the exhaust and can create hot spots on the piston that lead to detonation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I watched a lot of his videos. Anyone who opens with yelling "this oil sucks" loses credibility in my book. Given the sheer numbers of videos he has produced bashing this product, this guy comes off as an angry old man with a personal vendetta against Stihl oil. Others are seeing the damage. I spent another couple of hours surfing for answers tonight and hit on a few things that would steer me away from HP Ultra 1) It's biodegradable in 21 days and only has a shelf life of 4 years. This is a flag that Stihl is pushing environmental concerns over engine protection. (sidebar, but I'm tired of them ramming electric chainsaws down my throat in ads) I already hate the fixed oilers of the newer saws like the MS291 that only oil the bar at the minimum rate that was available on the older MS290s. There is evidence that Stihl is pushing a environmental agenda over performance. 2) JASO ratings. Stihl HP Ultra is only rated at JASO FB, while Red Armor is rated at FD. Now lubricity is SUPPOSE to be the same between FB, FC, and FD, but with better detergents, there are plenty of videos showing Red Armor cleaning up combustion chambers and spark arrestors. Now this may be due to the users testing Red Armor running their equipment at WOT for full tanks, so heating may be a factor. However carbon buildup is never a good thing for engines. Carbon clogs the exhaust and can create hot spots on the piston that lead to detonation. If only there was a way to drill three 3/8 or 10mm holes in the baffles to let that engine purr! 
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Posted: 12/8/2022 3:37:27 AM EDT
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Is anybody picking up a Chainsaw when they release Friday?
https://noveske.com/product-category/chainsaw/?utm_source=remarkety&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CHAINSAW%20LAUNCH%20DAY%20DETAILS&utm_content=&_rmId=oDloE0Q2VVInq38kPQLYc6rv1nZ3eWiNbOK |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 3:42:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is anybody picking up a Chainsaw when they release Friday? https://noveske.com/product-category/chainsaw/?utm_source=remarkety&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CHAINSAW%20LAUNCH%20DAY%20DETAILS&utm_content=&_rmId=oDloE0Q2VVInq38kPQLYc6rv1nZ3eWiNbOK I dunno. How many rounds will it take to cut down a tree? Seems like it will be cost more to run this vs a traditional saw.
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Posted: 12/8/2022 7:11:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dunno. How many rounds will it take to cut down a tree? Seems like it will be cost more to run this vs a traditional saw. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is anybody picking up a Chainsaw when they release Friday? https://noveske.com/product-category/chainsaw/?utm_source=remarkety&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CHAINSAW%20LAUNCH%20DAY%20DETAILS&utm_content=&_rmId=oDloE0Q2VVInq38kPQLYc6rv1nZ3eWiNbOK I dunno. How many rounds will it take to cut down a tree? Seems like it will be cost more to run this vs a traditional saw. That look, when you run out of ammo and the tree is still standing 
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Posted: 12/8/2022 8:42:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That look, when you run out of ammo and the tree is still standing https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/fuckin_tree-2627942.jpg "Long tall Sally, she's built for speed, she got everything that Uncle John need! Oh baby, ohhh baby." Bill Duke aced that scene. 
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Posted: 12/8/2022 9:04:19 AM EDT
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I've used Stihl HP Ultra in tons of saws/equipment over the years with no issues over hundreds of galllons. All of this was ethanol free fuel.
That said I wouldn't hesitate to use Stihl high performance as well. Only one saw doesn't like mix your own fuel and thats my Echo 2511t. She is a picky bitch so she gets 93 octane premix. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 9:11:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've used Stihl HP Ultra in tons of saws/equipment over the years with no issues over hundreds of galllons. All of this was ethanol free fuel. That said I wouldn't hesitate to use Stihl high performance as well. Only one saw doesn't like mix your own fuel and thats my Echo 2511t. She is a picky bitch so she gets 93 octane premix. It loves the Echo pre-mix, but it really loves this   
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Posted: 12/8/2022 10:18:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I spent another couple of hours surfing for answers tonight and hit on a few things that would steer me away from HP Ultra 1) It's biodegradable in 21 days and only has a shelf life of 4 years. This is a flag that Stihl is pushing environmental concerns over engine protection. (sidebar, but I'm tired of them ramming electric chainsaws down my throat in ads) I already hate the fixed oilers of the newer saws like the MS291 that only oil the bar at the minimum rate that was available on the older MS290s. There is evidence that Stihl is pushing a environmental agenda over performance. 2) JASO ratings. Stihl HP Ultra is only rated at JASO FB, while Red Armor is rated at FD. Now lubricity is SUPPOSE to be the same between FB, FC, and FD, but with better detergents, there are plenty of videos showing Red Armor cleaning up combustion chambers and spark arrestors. Now this may be due to the users testing Red Armor running their equipment at WOT for full tanks, so heating may be a factor. However carbon buildup is never a good thing for engines. Carbon clogs the exhaust and can create hot spots on the piston that lead to detonation. I think Stihl took the adjustable oilers off all but the pro series saws to help market the pro series and get people to upgrade….combined with many homeowners not knowing enough to adjust it right….and making homeowner series saws cheaper. It could be environmental reasons but I normally lean towards “follow the money” first. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 1:52:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It loves the Echo pre-mix, but it really loves this https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/6F10AEF8-83F0-4D12-ACBF-A3EEDF68EE1C-2563060.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/21FE82DA-DC5F-48F1-B164-8734FF1B1DB3-2596544.jpg @rtlm I will give that a go! I've seen some info on yours you posted before, did you do all the work? I'd love to find someone to pimp mine, its by far lightest saw. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 3:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @rtlm I will give that a go! I've seen some info on yours you posted before, did you do all the work? I'd love to find someone to pimp mine, its by far lightest saw. A guy above posted an aftermarket exhaust from Egan. After modifying my exhaust on the 2511, I’d buy what he did. All you need then is to retune the carb. The 2511 with an exhaust mod and carb tune is a different saw than factory. Removing limit caps and tuning it is easy. @1shortofpar |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 1:28:24 AM EDT
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Posted in another thread, but needs to be here also:
Here is a Great chainsaw forum, especialy the Hot Saw sectioin ArboristSite4.com Hot Saws! |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 8:34:34 PM EDT
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*WE INTERRUPT THIS CHAINSAW THREAD TO BRING YOU UP TO THE DATE INFORMATION*
Quoted: ALERT If between now and Monday evening, Arf can raise $2000.00 for St. Jude, a very generous anonymous donor will match that for a total of $4000.00 (and anything up to the 2K). Let's hit it!!! **OFFICIAL** 2022 ARFCOM St. Jude Children's Hospital Fundraiser! MATCHING DRIVE!! |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 10:29:48 PM EDT
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Uhmmmm....
I'm speaking at a lawncare event tomorrow and there was a "pre-event" at a power equipment shop tonight. I was like fate intervened... 
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Posted: 12/9/2022 10:39:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uhmmmm.... I'm speaking at a lawncare event tomorrow and there was a "pre-event" at a power equipment shop tonight. I was like fate intervened... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146014/20221209_191359-2629965.jpg Nice, very nice. And that is a clean and organized dealership. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 10:50:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice, very nice. And that is a clean and organized dealership. I hear they are one of, if not the largest, Toro dealerships in the US. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 11:11:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uhmmmm.... I'm speaking at a lawncare event tomorrow and there was a "pre-event" at a power equipment shop tonight. I was like fate intervened... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146014/20221209_191359-2629965.jpg The 500i is nice especially after you have it ported and get some real nice HP. My Dyno test.  |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 11:20:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I spent another couple of hours surfing for answers tonight and hit on a few things that would steer me away from HP Ultra 1) It's biodegradable in 21 days and only has a shelf life of 4 years. This is a flag that Stihl is pushing environmental concerns over engine protection. (sidebar, but I'm tired of them ramming electric chainsaws down my throat in ads) I already hate the fixed oilers of the newer saws like the MS291 that only oil the bar at the minimum rate that was available on the older MS290s. There is evidence that Stihl is pushing a environmental agenda over performance. 2) JASO ratings. Stihl HP Ultra is only rated at JASO FB, while Red Armor is rated at FD. Now lubricity is SUPPOSE to be the same between FB, FC, and FD, but with better detergents, there are plenty of videos showing Red Armor cleaning up combustion chambers and spark arrestors. Now this may be due to the users testing Red Armor running their equipment at WOT for full tanks, so heating may be a factor. However carbon buildup is never a good thing for engines. Carbon clogs the exhaust and can create hot spots on the piston that lead to detonation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I watched a lot of his videos. Anyone who opens with yelling "this oil sucks" loses credibility in my book. Given the sheer numbers of videos he has produced bashing this product, this guy comes off as an angry old man with a personal vendetta against Stihl oil. Others are seeing the damage. I spent another couple of hours surfing for answers tonight and hit on a few things that would steer me away from HP Ultra 1) It's biodegradable in 21 days and only has a shelf life of 4 years. This is a flag that Stihl is pushing environmental concerns over engine protection. (sidebar, but I'm tired of them ramming electric chainsaws down my throat in ads) I already hate the fixed oilers of the newer saws like the MS291 that only oil the bar at the minimum rate that was available on the older MS290s. There is evidence that Stihl is pushing a environmental agenda over performance. 2) JASO ratings. Stihl HP Ultra is only rated at JASO FB, while Red Armor is rated at FD. Now lubricity is SUPPOSE to be the same between FB, FC, and FD, but with better detergents, there are plenty of videos showing Red Armor cleaning up combustion chambers and spark arrestors. Now this may be due to the users testing Red Armor running their equipment at WOT for full tanks, so heating may be a factor. However carbon buildup is never a good thing for engines. Carbon clogs the exhaust and can create hot spots on the piston that lead to detonation. Belray H1R master race  There are a lot of good oils out there. I wouldn’t even consider stihl ultra. |
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Posted: 12/10/2022 12:55:24 AM EDT
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Wish I had some wood to rip through tomorrow, but alas I do not.
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Posted: 12/10/2022 10:14:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uhmmmm.... I'm speaking at a lawncare event tomorrow and there was a "pre-event" at a power equipment shop tonight. I was like fate intervened... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146014/20221209_191359-2629965.jpg  Nice!!!! Lucky
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Posted: 12/10/2022 11:45:49 AM EDT
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On a side note, was just chatting with a guy in Germany.
He had to take a class and pass it to get a license to operate a chainsaw, publicly or commercially. It cost him $135 and feels lucky about it because the class following his had a rate increase to $160. JFC !!!  "I've gotten a paper with foto and ID pretty much like a drivers license which says i'm legally allowed to operate "fuel motor saws" "?Electric falls under the same catagory" |
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Posted: 12/10/2022 12:13:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On a side note, was just chatting with a guy in Germany. He had to take a class and pass it to get a license to operate a chainsaw, publicly or commercially. It cost him $135 and feels lucky about it because the class following his had a rate increase to $160. JFC !!! "I've gotten a paper with foto and ID pretty much like a drivers license which says i'm legally allowed to operate "fuel motor saws" "?Electric falls under the same catagory" Damn man, unreal. 
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Posted: 12/10/2022 12:50:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On a side note, was just chatting with a guy in Germany. He had to take a class and pass it to get a license to operate a chainsaw, publicly or commercially. It cost him $135 and feels lucky about it because the class following his had a rate increase to $160. JFC !!! "I've gotten a paper with foto and ID pretty much like a drivers license which says i'm legally allowed to operate "fuel motor saws" "?Electric falls under the same catagory" There is your moar gubmint 
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Posted: 12/10/2022 1:58:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On a side note, was just chatting with a guy in Germany. He had to take a class and pass it to get a license to operate a chainsaw, publicly or commercially. It cost him $135 and feels lucky about it because the class following his had a rate increase to $160. JFC !!! "I've gotten a paper with foto and ID pretty much like a drivers license which says i'm legally allowed to operate "fuel motor saws" "?Electric falls under the same catagory" Turbo gay |
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Posted: 12/10/2022 2:02:42 PM EDT
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I was talking to a neighbor down the road who bought a cheap import top handle off Amazon…says he tried to use it once and it didn’t run right. He offered to sell it to me for $50.
I told him the carb probably needed adjusted and I’d help him out….but he doesn’t want to mess with it. I’m going to stop by and look at it next week and will probably buy it from him. Figure if nothing else it will let me try and top handle and decide if I’ll actually use one. If I like it I’ll end up picking up the Echo. |
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Posted: 12/10/2022 4:01:05 PM EDT
[#42]
Well I got into some action after all, forty feet from my house lol. Roommate's girlfriend lives next door and they had a smallish cedar that needed to come down. Last hurricane twisted the top out and sent it into the cedar beside it so it was good and hung. Used a ladder to get me up to where I could build an anchor. Set to work with my 201 to cut it free, then faced it and wedged 'er over with the 461. Easy peasy minus all the targets; very close-quarters here on the island. All the neighbors were on their back porches watching me hoping I'd fuck something up.
"Shit," they whispered. "He actually knows what he's doing." Went ahead and split some rounds with my only axe, a Fiskars X15; not ideal but it worked and we got firewood for tonight. And I will say, the Eagan filter makes the 461 sound like it's supercharged, lol. It spools up and whistles with that thing in there.  |
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Posted: 12/10/2022 8:04:18 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well I got into some action after all, forty feet from my house lol. Roommate's girlfriend lives next door and they had a smallish cedar that needed to come down. Last hurricane twisted the top out and sent it into the cedar beside it so it was good and hung. Used a ladder to get me up to where I could build an anchor. Set to work with my 201 to cut it free, then faced it and wedged 'er over with the 461. Easy peasy minus all the targets; very close-quarters here on the island. All the neighbors were on their back porches watching me hoping I'd fuck something up. "Shit," they whispered. "He actually knows what he's doing." Went ahead and split some rounds with my only axe, a Fiskars X15; not ideal but it worked and we got firewood for tonight. And I will say, the Eagan filter makes the 461 sound like it's supercharged, lol. It spools up and whistles with that thing in there. https://i.imgur.com/3lP6wK5.jpg That will smell so nice when it burns! |
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Posted: 12/11/2022 6:20:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/11/2022 8:11:01 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. Just said screw it and ordered a 6 pack of 2.6 oz bottles Stihl HP. 20 bucks delivered and will be here tomorrow. That makes 6 gallons of mix, so I should be good with it for quite some time. Personally, I stay away from Stihl oil. I use red armor in my blower. The professionals on other web sites have some horror stories about using Stihl oil. Edit: already addressed. |
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Posted: 12/11/2022 8:18:08 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The 500i is nice especially after you have it ported and get some real nice HP. My Dyno test. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/308700/20221026_163110-2577305.jpg Have you or anyone else compared the Egan versus the West Coast bark box? |
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Posted: 12/11/2022 8:20:14 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Personally, I stay away from Stihl oil. I use red armor in my blower. The professionals on other web sites have some horror stories about using Stihl oil. Well that's comforting to know. |
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Posted: 12/11/2022 10:56:26 AM EDT
[#48]
I’ve run Stihl oil going back to the mid 90’s… can’t say that I’ve had any issues with it… that being said I think the red armor is a better oil having switched to it last year.
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Posted: 12/11/2022 1:03:47 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That will smell so nice when it burns! It smells SO good. This is probably a really dumb observation but I was able to split all that right after I dropped and bucked it. Is cedar generally that dry and splittable right off the stump? The top was twisted and partially broken but still alive. My roommate tried to burn a little bit last night but said it was smokey and not burning very well, so I'm assuming that means it's still green. |
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Posted: 12/11/2022 1:06:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It smells SO good. This is probably a really dumb observation but I was able to split all that right after I dropped and bucked it. Is cedar generally that dry and splittable right off the stump? The top was twisted and partially broken but still alive. My roommate tried to burn a little bit last night but said it was smokey and not burning very well, so I'm assuming that means it's still green. Common cedars around here contain some sap, oil substance, similar to pine. I am not a tree expert. Only wood I've ever burned indoors was oak, E TX is full of it. |
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