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Quoted: Explain advanced? I'm pretty sure they both shoot ammo of designated caliber. I wouldn't say stamped metal and plastic parts is some crazy advanced tech- it's called cheaper. View Quote Coming from someone who has worn out their fingers and eyes many weekends Attached File |
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Quoted: This is the land of both @fluffythecat Both are CZ’s https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/6684DF9D-B066-4050-91DC-A0C4D8188493-2416190.jpg ETA: I think the DWX could be best option possible. Hope it comes back to the table. View Quote Interesting perspective. Dan Wesson is a wholly owned subsidiary of CZ, but I've never met anyone who called their DW a CZ. The CZ line of pistols are clearly marked as such, as are the DWs. |
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I’m a millennial and my first pistol was a 1911, I carried it for years.
I have two of them now. |
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Quoted: Interesting perspective. Dan Wesson is a wholly owned subsidiary of CZ, but I've never met anyone who called their DW a CZ. The CZ line of pistols are clearly marked as such, as are the DWs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This is the land of both @fluffythecat Both are CZ’s https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/6684DF9D-B066-4050-91DC-A0C4D8188493-2416190.jpg ETA: I think the DWX could be best option possible. Hope it comes back to the table. Interesting perspective. Dan Wesson is a wholly owned subsidiary of CZ, but I've never met anyone who called their DW a CZ. The CZ line of pistols are clearly marked as such, as are the DWs. Correct, I was being facetious but a smidge serious at the same time. Both are excellent shooters and two of my favorites. That said I'm always on the lookout for an actual CZ 1911 to pop up for sale, would make an interesting and excellent base for a build. They were made by Dan Wesson. |
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That’s awesome. As much as I dog on. 1911s, it’s hard not to love them. I bought a 5 inch Wiley Clap Colt and a pile of parts I want to change. Trigger is super sloppy, beavertail safety is bad on fit, thumb safety has huge overtravel…just need to find the skill and time. |
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Another millenia who trusts his 1911. This is my third and 8500 rounds and counting without malfunctions. |
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Quoted: Correct, I was being facetious but a smidge serious at the same time. Both are excellent shooters and two of my favorites. That said I'm always on the lookout for an actual CZ 1911 to pop up for sale, would make an interesting and excellent base for a build. They were made by Dan Wesson. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/cz1911-2417461.jpg View Quote Colts are CZs now as well. |
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Quoted: That’s awesome. As much as I dog on. 1911s, it’s hard not to love them. I bought a 5 inch Wiley Clap Colt and a pile of parts I want to change. Trigger is super sloppy, beavertail safety is bad on fit, thumb safety has huge overtravel…just need to find the skill and time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: That’s awesome. As much as I dog on. 1911s, it’s hard not to love them. I bought a 5 inch Wiley Clap Colt and a pile of parts I want to change. Trigger is super sloppy, beavertail safety is bad on fit, thumb safety has huge overtravel…just need to find the skill and time. The WC makes a great base gun if the price is right. Nighthawk did the work on mine, and it is a primary carry gun. Attached File |
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Quoted: Dude, this one of the few things that Norinco that did correct at a low price. Too bad I miss buying one at 250 30 years ago. The steel frame is great. View Quote Correct Answer is Tisas. $400 adjusted for inflation is cheaper then that Chicom was new. Toss in the Turkeys give you the options for 9mm, Novak sights, red dot cut, rails, etc . Then the politics.. Turkey is a NATO member helping stack Terrorists and Communist in Syria and Ukraine... Who doesn't donate to gun grabbers (Springfield), shit on their customers (Colt) or price gauges their customers (Sig). |
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Did you do that in MS Paint? |
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View Quote Are you British? Calibre? |
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Quoted: Sigh, since you decided to go there, Every polymer striker is essentially a VP70 clone, including Glock. Credit goes to where credit is due, no revisionary BS, please. FYI I carry a Glock exclusively so take this with a grain of salt but objectively a tool being selected by the person and not as a tribe is actually a great metric by itself. Pistol tech does indeed have a cult following and it's not just restricted to 1911 owners. I see Glock cultists day in and day out that makes me almost embarrassed to be known that I carry one too. Fun fact, but when Glocks came to the US market in the mid 80's, a good number of bOoMeRs were in their twenties or early thirties were buying them too, making Glock also a bOoMeR gUn. Another fun fact: Strikers can be found with lesser or the same capacity as certain 1911 models. I still don't feel under-gunned with those models of strikers either. Y'all should just accept it, 1911's are still going to be around and some people will still be carrying them. And judging by the millennial perspective threads of 1911 threads, still not going anywhere for a very long time either. I've seen sooooo many of you all try to argue, belittle, shame, and debate until ad nauseam yet still this tired, overplayed, worn down, unwinnable debate is still being done to this day. All to no avail. View Quote |
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Quoted: Correct Answer is Tisas. $400 adjusted for inflation is cheaper then that Chicom was new. Toss in the Turkeys give you the options for 9mm, Novak sights, red dot cut, rails, etc . Then the politics.. Turkey is a NATO member helping stack Terrorists and Communist in Syria and Ukraine... Who doesn't donate to gun grabbers (Springfield), shit on their customers (Colt) or price gauges their customers (Sig). View Quote So buy this? |
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Nothing wrong with a 1911, and they have their place in any collection. That said, in 2022, it simply isn't a top choice for carry or home defense. There are so many other options that can outperform it.
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I just say "fuck the ignorants who rant against the venerable 1911".
They are the only semi-auto pistol I own and will ever own. |
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I have a fair bit of experience with Military 1911s.
None of it good. Reliabilty: Poor Accuracy: Poor Capacity: Poor Hell, I even got a nasty case of slide bite from a pre A1 1911, before the exaggerated beavertail. Im sure there are fine 1911s out there and, im happy for you if you like them. For me, they belong in the same trash can with AKs and Shotguns. |
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Quoted: I have a fair bit of experience with Military 1911s. None of it good. Reliabilty: Poor Accuracy: Poor Capacity: Poor Hell, I even got a nasty case of slide bite from a pre A1 1911, before the exaggerated beavertail. Im sure there are fine 1911s out there and, im happy for you if you like them. For me, they belong in the same trash can with AKs and Shotguns. View Quote |
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Quoted: VP70 is a blowback pistol. The Glock has more in common with the 1911 since it’s a tilting barrel action, IMO View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Sigh, since you decided to go there, Every polymer striker is essentially a VP70 clone, including Glock. Credit goes to where credit is due, no revisionary BS, please. FYI I carry a Glock exclusively so take this with a grain of salt but objectively a tool being selected by the person and not as a tribe is actually a great metric by itself. Pistol tech does indeed have a cult following and it's not just restricted to 1911 owners. I see Glock cultists day in and day out that makes me almost embarrassed to be known that I carry one too. Fun fact, but when Glocks came to the US market in the mid 80's, a good number of bOoMeRs were in their twenties or early thirties were buying them too, making Glock also a bOoMeR gUn. Another fun fact: Strikers can be found with lesser or the same capacity as certain 1911 models. I still don't feel under-gunned with those models of strikers either. Y'all should just accept it, 1911's are still going to be around and some people will still be carrying them. And judging by the millennial perspective threads of 1911 threads, still not going anywhere for a very long time either. I've seen sooooo many of you all try to argue, belittle, shame, and debate until ad nauseam yet still this tired, overplayed, worn down, unwinnable debate is still being done to this day. All to no avail. The VP70 is also a polymer lower with a striker fired slide, long before Glock did it Glock is the only brand and design that everyone parrots the same cultist BS or lies. Do you see anyone calling every semi automatic double action a Little Tom copy? No, we don't. DA/SA never had a cult like following that Glock has. |
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Quoted: I have a fair bit of experience with Military 1911s. None of it good. Reliabilty: Poor Accuracy: Poor Capacity: Poor Hell, I even got a nasty case of slide bite from a pre A1 1911, before the exaggerated beavertail. Im sure there are fine 1911s out there and, im happy for you if you like them. For me, they belong in the same trash can with AKs and Shotguns. View Quote So you have very little relevant experience to the subject matter at hand, but you're more than happy to expound. This has been concurrent with my memory of your posts over the past years. Thankfully, technology has moved beyond the 1970s military. |
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Quoted: Nothing wrong with a 1911, and they have their place in any collection. That said, in 2022, it simply isn't a top choice for carry or home defense. There are so many other options that can outperform it. View Quote Subjective, depends on the person and not but those with feelings against that are condemning it's use in 2022. As the owner of a G17, there's absolutely nothing wrong with an up to date 1911 with a light rail to be used as a nightstand gun. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I have a fair bit of experience with Military 1911s. None of it good. Reliabilty: Poor Accuracy: Poor Capacity: Poor Hell, I even got a nasty case of slide bite from a pre A1 1911, before the exaggerated beavertail. Im sure there are fine 1911s out there and, im happy for you if you like them. For me, they belong in the same trash can with AKs and Shotguns. That's all he does, he has very serious derangements against the things he doesn't like. And also false narratives along with it. |
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Quoted: So you have very little relevant experience to the subject matter at hand, but you're more than happy to expound. This has been concurrent with my memory of your posts over the past years. Thankfully, technology has moved beyond the 1970s military. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I have a fair bit of experience with Military 1911s. None of it good. Reliabilty: Poor Accuracy: Poor Capacity: Poor Hell, I even got a nasty case of slide bite from a pre A1 1911, before the exaggerated beavertail. Im sure there are fine 1911s out there and, im happy for you if you like them. For me, they belong in the same trash can with AKs and Shotguns. So you have very little relevant experience to the subject matter at hand, but you're more than happy to expound. This has been concurrent with my memory of your posts over the past years. Thankfully, technology has moved beyond the 1970s military. You are adorable ;) |
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I carry Glock on and off duty but I still own half a dozen custom 1911s and always will.
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Three Les Baer and a Springfield and a few rock islands. Never had one failure ever.
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Quoted: I have a fair bit of experience with Military 1911s. None of it good. Reliabilty: Poor Accuracy: Poor Capacity: Poor Hell, I even got a nasty case of slide bite from a pre A1 1911, before the exaggerated beavertail. Im sure there are fine 1911s out there and, im happy for you if you like them. For me, they belong in the same trash can with AKs and Shotguns. View Quote Did you ever get to put some rounds through the CQBP/M45? That thing will punch ragged holes all day, all night, and have zero issues while doing so. Great gun, and at the very least a massively better pistol than the brick-ass M9. I thought I would hate being issued a 1911, that gun made me a huge fan of them instead. |
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