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Link Posted: 10/2/2022 4:45:39 AM EST
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2 Pepsis?!?

Huge if true.
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That's all he wanted apparently
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 5:04:39 AM EST
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Eh I don't know.  All my ARs eject spent casings to the side/rear.  Unless he's hanging over the window frame with the ejection port, I don't see much if any of it going outside.  There's PLENTY of spent brass shown in the photos, OP just posted the pics where there was little or none, conveniently.
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Many of them are over gassed from the factory. This causes the rounds to slam the brass deflector and cause the brass to head off to the 1 o’clock area. Some of the higher end guns have gas ports that are not oversized and may not do that.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 5:25:03 AM EST
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reminds me of when I learned Bigfoot shits standing up. I don't need proof, it just makes sense.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 5:29:46 AM EST
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I don’t know what to believe. But these mind altering drugs are dangerous things. And mental health is always pushed to the back of these mass shooter conversations.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 5:39:58 AM EST
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What happened to his crazy wife that was yelling in the airport or the chick that warned everyone at the concert? Is she with the chick from the shooting in FL?
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 5:47:15 AM EST
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#1) Where is all the expended brass?

Now, maybe I’m just a moron who thinks automatic rifles discharge expended brass or something, because the last time I shot my rifle — which was yesterday — hot brass kept blasting out the right side port with every round. Very annoying. I wish I knew how to turn that off.

So, given that Stephen Paddock was firing full-auto rifles in a sustained 10-minute assault, at roughly the rate of six rounds per second, we should probably see massive piles of expended brass all over the place.

Let’s see: 6 rounds per second, times 60 seconds in a minute, times 10 minutes of sustained fire… that comes to 3600 rounds of ammunition. If you figure there were pauses in the automatic fire, you could discount that to maybe 3000 rounds actually fired.

Again, maybe I’m just stupid or something, but if Paddock fired 3000 rounds, there should be 3000 brass casings all over the floor of the hotel suite. (I know, I’m invoking logic and reason, both of which are banned in modern society and the mainstream media, but bear with me for a moment for the sake of appeasing a really stupid person…)

But what we see in the photos released by the media show only a tiny smattering of brass casings, almost as if they were thrown around to complete the staging of the scene:

https://www.naturalnews.com/gallery/articles/Stephen-Paddock-guns-Mandalay-Bay-room-1.jpg

https://www.naturalnews.com/gallery/articles/Stephen-Paddock-guns-Mandalay-Bay-room-2.jpg

Thank goodness the UK Daily Mail cleared all this up by stating there were, “Dozens of spent shells litter the floor… and a hammer.” Yep, DOZENS. In a mass shooting that supposedly involved the firing of thousands of rounds from this very location, the media proudly reports there are “dozens” of pieces of brass on the carpet.

Did the FBI sweep up all the brass before they took these photos? Maybe they needed the brass for their own reloads so they can stage the next shooting…

I also wonder why the media isn’t calling for a nationwide ban on hammers, since they can clearly be used in mass shootings. #BanHammers

And ban hotels, too, since they provide elevated platforms for mass shooters. That’s right, ban all hammers, but especially full-auto hammers, as they can smash hotel windows at an astonishing rate.

#2) Where are all the carpet burns from hot brass and hot gun barrels?

I must be really stupid, because the other day when I was training with my AR-15, I was doing an exercise called “keyhole shooting” which requires you to shoot at targets through nine different holes cut into a large piece of plywood that’s positioned vertically in front of you. Some of these holes are cut near the bottom of the plywood, meaning you have to lay down on the ground to shoot through those holes. Silly me, I forgot to wear a long sleeve shirt, and when I laid down on the ground to shoot from the bottom holes, I found my arms laying across hot brass that was expended from my earlier shots through higher holes.

Not surprisingly, I received serious burns on my skin for the simple reason that — DUH! — expended brass is really, really hot.

And I don’t know if you knew this or not, but the hotter your rifle gets, the hotter your expended brass gets, too. It’s apparently due to physics or some such thing. If you’re firing a full-auto rifle, some internal parts can reach temperatures of 400 C, which is hot enough to either cook a frozen burrito or set Maxine Waters’ hair on fire at the merest touch.

Now, at 400 C, most of your rifle grease smokes off, making it hard to breathe. After just a few hundred rounds, the air in that hotel room would have been unbearably polluted. It might have even caused global warming, which is exactly why we have to ban automatic weapons (plus full-auto hammers, see above).

Given that Stephen Paddock was smoking through thousands of rounds of ammunition, he was generating not only very hot rifles but also extremely hot brass that would have left burn marks in any synthetic carpet.

Where are all the burn marks in the carpet?

Wouldn’t you know it, but the carpet in this room just happened to look like a pattern of burn marks, thereby obscuring the absence of additional burn marks from brass or rifle barrels:

https://www.naturalnews.com/gallery/articles/Stephen-Paddock-guns-Mandalay-Bay-room-3.jpg

#3) Um, excuse me but I have another really stupid question…

So you know that rifle with the bipod they found innocently standing in front of the mini-bar? Yeah, I’m talking about this one, labeled #19:

https://www.naturalnews.com/gallery/articles/Stephen-Paddock-guns-Mandalay-Bay-room-4.jpg

Is it just me, or does this look exactly the same as the rifle shown in the photo with the dead guy, above? Same flared mag well, same bump fire stock, same bipod and even the same optics, it seems. If only we could see the serial numbers, we might know for sure, but of course they never release photos with that degree of resolution.

Can’t have the public looking too closely, you see, or we might keep asking really stupid questions like, “Hey, why were there originally just 10 guns reported, and now there are 27 guns being reported, but it really just looks like the same 10 guns re-staged and re-photographed to look like 27 guns?”

I mean, heck, why not make it 99 guns at this point? Clearly whoever set all this up really, really wanted to make sure we didn’t miss the guns. “Make it 10 guns! … No, wait. Hold on. Make it 20 guns! … Oh wait, why stop now? Let’s make it 27 guns! And then call for gun control!” Honestly, it seems the only person around here who lacks gun control is the police photographer.

4) I swear this is my last really stupid question, but please…

This whole scene is being called a “sniper’s nest” by the entire fake news media, but I’ve looked and looked and I still don’t see a sniper rifle anywhere. What I see are a bunch of AR-15s that fire .223 rounds (or 5.56 mm for you metric heads). Sniper rifles are bolt-action rifles, not auto-loading semi-auto rifles.

Now, I’ve only fired about 100,000 of these rounds myself, so I’m still a newbie, but the last time I checked, these rounds are usually about 55 grains in mass, and they lose about 75% of their kinetic energy by the time they reach a 400-yard target (the distance from the Mandalay Bay hotel to the concert lot is about 400 yards). You can see the dope yourself at Gundata.org.

On top of that, the bullet drop is 32 inches, which is of course almost three feet of bullet drop. Now, given the elevated angle of the shooter, that bullet drop wouldn’t be quite as dramatic, as the coefficient of a 20 degree declination angle is, of course, 0.94. But the energy of this round at 400 yards makes it only marginally effective. It’s just at the outside boundary of the effective range of a .223 cartridge, as any good Marine will tell you.

Conclusion? All these casualties couldn’t possibly be caused by .223 rounds. Most likely, they were actually heavier rounds fired from something like a belt-fed AK system (7.62 x 39mm rounds), or perhaps even a belt-fed .308 automatic weapon. So where is all the brass, anyway? Did Stephen Paddock possess magical brass that can disappear after being fired?

I find it curious that ballistics details of the bullets that hit the pavement have not been released. All the evidence we need is all over the concert lot, yet the public will never be given access to details about that evidence. They also destroyed all the evidence immediately after 9/11, by the way. They called it “cleanup and salvage.” Really, it was a rapid evidence destruction exercise.

In summary, “mission impossible” could have only been carried out by a miracle Leprechaun who eats brass and makes bullets more effective than the laws of physics allow

In summary of all this, we’re told that a flabby 64-year-old senior citizen accountant with a gambling problem managed to expertly lay down highly effective fields of fire, killing 58 and wounding 500+ people by firing off thousands of .223 rounds well outside their effective range, all while producing merely dozens of pieces of expended brass that were magically cooled before they hit the carpet of his hotel room.

This was accomplished, we’re told, by one man firing 10 rifles… wait, no, 27 rifles all by himself, without any military training whatsoever. This same man set up a James Bond spy camera in the hotel hallway to monitor police in an attempt to defend himself against the inevitable police assault, then he just changed his mind and shot himself the moment the cops showed up… all for no apparent reason.

Oh, and one more thing: This same guy who meticulously planned the hotel room, the rifles hidden in the luggage, the huge collection of 100-round magazines, the window hammer smashing routine, the concert calendar dates, the monotonous lugging of ammunition to his room and even the guarding of the mini-bar when another assault rifle just happened to mindlessly leave a bag of ammonium nitrate fertilizer in his car even though it has no practical use in this scenario unless you’re growing Azaleas. (Yes, fertilizer can actually be used as fertilizer. It’s not all for making bombs as the media stupidly claims.)

So wait, millionaire gambling man who has no military training, no familiarity with automatic weapons, no James Bond super spy training, no political affiliations and nothing in the world to complain about just got tired of living in a $400,000 home, banging Vegas hookers and flying around his private Cessna? Instead of that rather well-off life, he wants to run a suicide mission, set up spy cameras in the hallway, shoot a bunch of innocent people he’s never met and then shoot himself in the head while going down in history as a flaming piece of s##t who will burn in Hell forever? Oh yeah, and before he does all that, he wires $100,000 to his girlfriend in the Philippines?

Call me stupid, but something doesn’t add up here. I don’t know if it’s the missing brass, the missing carpet burns, the wildly fluctuating rifle count, the staged police photos, the B.S. suicide story, the totally laughable ballistics miracles of .223 rounds or the magically disappearing evidence of all the rifle rounds that hit pavement but then seemed to be whisked away by law enforcement. But something smells fishy about all this.

Or maybe I’m just so stupid that I can’t quite understand CNN. Yeah, that must be it.
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I’ve believed since 2017 that the FBI have lied about aspects of this event.

While I believe a few of the 33 things you point out are intriguing, others are a real stretch, and a few seem absurd.
Being a man of conviction, I think it’s commendable that you posted what you believe in effort to inform others of what you are convinced is a government lie and cover-up, HOWEVER,............

........you are not going to convince or persuade any reader by attacking and insulting their intelligence.

You did more to discredit your theory about the Las Vegas shooting than anyone else.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 6:01:00 AM EST
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Next you are going to connect Abe Lincoln and JFK getting shot.
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Stephen Paddock, time traveling assassin.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 6:19:41 AM EST
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I umm... I don't know what to say OP...
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 6:30:46 AM EST
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This is exactly how the government's disinformation campaign regarding UFOs was/is run.
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What you are doing is interesting in itself, not sure if it is intentional or not. What your post accomplishes is actually a very clever undermining on the concept that there are any secrets about the Vegas attack.

It is actually a lot like the shark jumping that followed the 2020 election regarding possible fraud.

Interesting and possibly legitimate concerns/ questions are used as the lead, only to be followed by absurd nonsense. The reader is repulsed by the tinfoil bullshit and is compelled to reject all of it as conspiracy theories - including the few possible legitimate points that were the lead hook.

Given that you are a relative newcomer, with little post history, and no EE history - I wonder about your motive.


This is exactly how the government's disinformation campaign regarding UFOs was/is run.


That's also what they did for "Pizzagate", they turned it into a clown show about Comic Ping Pong having a basement or some BS. When in fact it was about child trafficking by the politically connected, politicians and "elites". They shut that down real quick. I believe some of this was John Podesta's collection, nothing to see here folks!

Link Posted: 10/2/2022 6:41:17 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/2/2022 7:05:37 AM EST
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Just about everything OP posted is very provable as bullshit. And then some of the dumber stuff is so tinfoilish that a search for the particular claim yields such limited results that OP’s topic shows up on the first page of Google search results.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 7:09:50 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/2/2022 7:19:48 AM EST
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Subscribed for the insanity.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 7:38:39 AM EST
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That's also what they did for "Pizzagate", they turned it into a clown show about Comic Ping Pong having a basement or some BS. When in fact it was about child trafficking by the politically connected, politicians and "elites". They shut that down real quick. I believe some of this was John Podesta's collection, nothing to see here folks!
https://imgs.search.brave.com/058LAmwhuSPaxYr05EQ4-0ArZvfXhgWGQzGTTXyNQho/rs:fit:474:225:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly90c2Ux/LmV4cGxpY2l0LmJp/bmcubmV0L3RoP2lk/PU9JUC41U292dDY4/aVRyTTR0WXdVOUlp/ZVV3SGFIYSZwaWQ9/QXBp
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Pizzagate started as out as 'interesting', then took a turn to being dominated by bizarre add-on stories.  

The conspiracy period could have been a disinformation campaign to effectively try to immunize the public to not believe stories about the pedo's.  

Then Epstein was arrested and the truth about connected people and pedo island came out.


Link Posted: 10/2/2022 7:38:49 AM EST
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As mentioned earlier the tactic is to take some plausible points and add absurdity in attempt to dismiss it all.....and then some on the flip side do such and attack anyone with concerns that challenge the  narrative.  So strange to trust the FBI on this and nothing else.....LOL
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 7:41:58 AM EST
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This is exactly how the government's disinformation campaign regarding UFOs was/is run.
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What you are doing is interesting in itself, not sure if it is intentional or not. What your post accomplishes is actually a very clever undermining on the concept that there are any secrets about the Vegas attack.

It is actually a lot like the shark jumping that followed the 2020 election regarding possible fraud.

Interesting and possibly legitimate concerns/ questions are used as the lead, only to be followed by absurd nonsense. The reader is repulsed by the tinfoil bullshit and is compelled to reject all of it as conspiracy theories - including the few possible legitimate points that were the lead hook.

Given that you are a relative newcomer, with little post history, and no EE history - I wonder about your motive.


This is exactly how the government's disinformation campaign regarding UFOs was/is run.


It's how they handled pizzagate too. Epstein and Maxwell were 100% confirmed human trafficking and operating pedophile blackmail schemes on the world's elite, primarily in this country, and they made it all about a pizza joint.

Didn't realize I was on page 2 and this was mentioned over an hour before I posted it.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 7:50:58 AM EST
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2 Pepsis?!?

Huge if true.
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Just more evidence that there was another person in the room with him prior to the shooting. Didn't they find the receipt torn up and flushed down the toilet? The fact that there was another person with him prior to the shooting and he felt the need to try to hide it is interesting.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 8:00:02 AM EST
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The FBI has brass goblins in their ranks
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 8:06:04 AM EST
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The OP is so shit it almost seems like it's designed to discredit anyone looking into the shooting.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 8:22:31 AM EST
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The OP is so shit it almost seems like it's designed to discredit anyone looking into the shooting.
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Well ja!  He took the bait and then half the audience here took the predicted response in lieu of their position on the FBI otherwise.  Biden isn't the only one getting senile.....I see it with good folks here too ??
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 8:39:49 AM EST
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The OP is so shit it almost seems like it's designed to discredit anyone looking into the shooting.
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You don’t believe there are people out there who legitimately believe these far out fairy tales about any major event?

I know a guy who firmly believes McDonald’s Burger meat is made from aborted fetuses.  And no, he isn’t trolling.

They’re out there.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 8:42:32 AM EST
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That's all he wanted apparently
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Link Posted: 10/2/2022 8:50:33 AM EST
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The whole 666 part made me think, did you know the cern particle collider is just a portal making device to allow more demons into our dimension
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 8:52:29 AM EST
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That's also what they did for "Pizzagate", they turned it into a clown show about Comic Ping Pong having a basement or some BS. When in fact it was about child trafficking by the politically connected, politicians and "elites". They shut that down real quick. I believe some of this was John Podesta's collection, nothing to see here folks!
https://imgs.search.brave.com/058LAmwhuSPaxYr05EQ4-0ArZvfXhgWGQzGTTXyNQho/rs:fit:474:225:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly90c2Ux/LmV4cGxpY2l0LmJp/bmcubmV0L3RoP2lk/PU9JUC41U292dDY4/aVRyTTR0WXdVOUlp/ZVV3SGFIYSZwaWQ9/QXBp
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What you are doing is interesting in itself, not sure if it is intentional or not. What your post accomplishes is actually a very clever undermining on the concept that there are any secrets about the Vegas attack.

It is actually a lot like the shark jumping that followed the 2020 election regarding possible fraud.

Interesting and possibly legitimate concerns/ questions are used as the lead, only to be followed by absurd nonsense. The reader is repulsed by the tinfoil bullshit and is compelled to reject all of it as conspiracy theories - including the few possible legitimate points that were the lead hook.

Given that you are a relative newcomer, with little post history, and no EE history - I wonder about your motive.


This is exactly how the government's disinformation campaign regarding UFOs was/is run.


That's also what they did for "Pizzagate", they turned it into a clown show about Comic Ping Pong having a basement or some BS. When in fact it was about child trafficking by the politically connected, politicians and "elites". They shut that down real quick. I believe some of this was John Podesta's collection, nothing to see here folks!
https://imgs.search.brave.com/058LAmwhuSPaxYr05EQ4-0ArZvfXhgWGQzGTTXyNQho/rs:fit:474:225:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly90c2Ux/LmV4cGxpY2l0LmJp/bmcubmV0L3RoP2lk/PU9JUC41U292dDY4/aVRyTTR0WXdVOUlp/ZVV3SGFIYSZwaWQ9/QXBp

Those pictures with the white and blue tiles, that's a pool from Anderson cooper's parents house
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 12:28:38 PM EST
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I remember the hearing protection bill landed in the garbage can with quite a loud thud the very next morning.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 12:46:52 PM EST
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The OP is so shit it almost seems like it's designed to discredit anyone looking into the shooting.
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Ahhh… the criticism is so lame it’s clearly disinformation to disprove the criticism, which proves the criticism is true. Brilliant.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 12:47:47 PM EST
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There’s a certain point where I have to just assume you are role-playing a character for your own amusement.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 12:49:17 PM EST
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This kind of shit would cause me to roll my eyes many years ago but nowadays I just don’t know.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 12:51:50 PM EST
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Here's a list of dozens of end of the world predictions.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 1:19:06 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/2/2022 1:26:53 PM EST
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OP made a few good points at first, then went off the rails.

Alright, boys, which one of you has the key to the padded room and straitjacket storage?
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 2:20:22 PM EST
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OP made a few good points at first, then went off the rails.

Alright, boys, which one of you has the key to the padded room and straitjacket storage?
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Did you know that a padded wall section in one of those rooms consists of 666 separate individual padded panels, and that if you look close at the pattern of white/black stitching on each panel it spells out COMET PIZZA in the binary language of moisture evaporators? That each panel measures 6 and 2/3 inches square (6.66” same as a US dollar)? That if you pull a section down, the back displays the logo of Proctor & Gamble?

There are 29 other strange coincidences about padded rooms.
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