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Posted: 7/15/2023 6:48:27 PM EDT
I’m thinking of getting a 5.56 ak, I’m not sure which to get I’m leaning to the beryl right now any advice? Or anything else I should look for?
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 6:51:15 PM EDT
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Why 5.56, is this for fun or serious work?
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 6:54:45 PM EDT
[#2]
I love 5.56. I love 7.62x39.  I have several AKs in x39. I have an AR in x39. But for some reason cannot bring myself to get an AK in 5.56.

The AR in x39 is just a fun bastard.
But an AK in 5.56 would feel like I’m trying too hard.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 6:59:02 PM EDT
[#3]
I'd buy that PSA one or whichever uses Pmags.
Factory 5.56 AK mags suck
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 6:59:42 PM EDT
[#4]
I had one a couple of decades ago.  A Norinco.  The magazines for it were worth more than the gun itself if I remember correctly.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:00:47 PM EDT
[#5]
Beryl is about as good as it gets right now, since Zastava is on its way out for the time being.
Arsenal is great, but $$$.
Some WPB are better than others, but people seem happy with them.
Avoid the rock and lock PSAs, some are great, others need a few warranty trips back - I don't think it's worth the roll of the dice.
The PSA 5.56 AKs using AR mags seem to be fine.

5.56 AK rock and lock magazines are much more available now than ever. The only issue people have are in converted Galil and SAR-3 magazines.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:02:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Arsenal SAM-5.......works like a champ and is accurate
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:04:10 PM EDT
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I <3 my Zastava M90.

Uses cheap Galil mags, built like a tank, accurate, adjustable gas system. It just fucking rocks.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:04:16 PM EDT
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Polish Beryl is what you seek.

Arsenal is nice, but flat out overpriced
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:07:36 PM EDT
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Polish Beryl is what you seek.

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I got a good deal on mine and you can use the WPB, Beryl or AC Unity mags
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:17:27 PM EDT
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I got a good deal on mine and you can use the WPB, Beryl or AC Unity mags
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Polish Beryl is what you seek.

Arsenal is nice, but flat out overpriced


I got a good deal on mine and you can use the WPB, Beryl or AC Unity mags


I’m glad someone addressed the demand for 5.56 mags.

Circle 10 5.56 mag prices are even more ridiculous than they used to be, if you could even find them in stock. That was the only thing I didn’t like about my slr-106.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:23:45 PM EDT
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If I was in the market for one I would get a PSA.

Personally I prefer 7.62x39 in my aks and 5.56 in my ARs.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:23:54 PM EDT
[#12]
How about an AK in 300 BLK?
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:25:36 PM EDT
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Beryl is the correct choice.

SAM5 is shit. SA M-5 is g2g if you find one for a reasonable cost.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:26:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:34:17 PM EDT
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when you want to pay the money for 5.56 and you want to pay the money for an AK, but you want to poor ergos and out dated design of an AK. is there any way you could make this a worse decision? maybe buy a CA neutered version?
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:41:21 PM EDT
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I love 5.56. I love 7.62x39.  I have several AKs in x39. I have an AR in x39. But for some reason cannot bring myself to get an AK in 5.56.

The AR in x39 is just a fun bastard.
But an AK in 5.56 would feel like I’m trying too hard.
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A 5.56 AK is not much different than a 5.45. AKs in calibers like 5.45 and 5.56 are light shooting and fun.

OP: Zastava M90s are nice.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:42:16 PM EDT
[#17]
Generation Kill-Ice Cube/AK Line (HD)
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:42:56 PM EDT
[#18]
Thank you everyone I have 2 AKs in 7.62x39 2 in 5.45x39 and one in .308 I just wanted something else that I guess is cheaper to shoot since I have a few ARs
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 7:43:23 PM EDT
[#19]
I can play

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Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:01:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:06:16 PM EDT
[#21]
Galil type AK enough?
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:07:35 PM EDT
[#22]
Galil ACE
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:13:02 PM EDT
[#23]
VZ.58 FTW



Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:16:12 PM EDT
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when you want to pay the money for 5.56 and you want to pay the money for an AK, but you want to poor ergos and out dated design of an AK. is there any way you could make this a worse decision? maybe buy a CA neutered version?
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Define "poor ergos". What more do you need than a trigger and a pistol grip?

You seem to be stuck in 1947. I know, I know, there's guys out there who love nothing more than a first-generation-style Kalash with nothing but iron sights and a fixed wooden laminate stock, but AK evolved just like the AR. Unfortunately the AR-15/M-16/M-4 is being phased out for
being "outdated."

Look at the AK-12.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:18:01 PM EDT
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I may take flak for this, but I’m waiting for the KUSA 101 to come out. Very excited about that release. However, I’m in the process of building a 5.56 side folder 12.5” AK. Gonna be sweet.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:19:54 PM EDT
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I’m glad someone addressed the demand for 5.56 mags.

Circle 10 5.56 mag prices are even more ridiculous than they used to be, if you could even find them in stock. That was the only thing I didn’t like about my slr-106.
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If you had a stack of 74 mags for pre ridiculous mag prices, the POD arms 5.56 followers are a great option. They work fantastic and the owner is a good dude.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:21:17 PM EDT
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I'm thinking of getting a 5.56 ak, I'm not sure which to get I'm leaning to the beryl right now any advice? Or anything else I should look for?
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From the research I've done the Beryl would be a good choice I think I remember reading early production ones had bad barrels. Another one worth looking is the WBP JACK 5.56 $1200 at Atlantic right now. Zastava M90 is also a good choice.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:22:24 PM EDT
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Okay, I admit being ill-informed, but is that in 5.56?

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Yes czechpoint makes them I think or maybe they're the importer?
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:25:00 PM EDT
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I'm glad someone addressed the demand for 5.56 mags.

Circle 10 5.56 mag prices are even more ridiculous than they used to be, if you could even find them in stock. That was the only thing I didn't like about my slr-106.
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The AC unitys seems like they'll be the affordable option if they hold up to the test of time. Unfortunately the Zastava poly 5.56 mags will probably be too fat for non Zastava AKs.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:32:52 PM EDT
[#31]
Thank you again everyone I guess I didn’t realize there are so many variations of the 5.56 AK mag I figured they would be like the other calibers and be standard
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:47:06 PM EDT
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Okay, I admit being ill-informed, but is that in 5.56?

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Not only are they 5.56 but they come from the factory with Lothar-Walther barrels which, IIRC is what made LaRoo's Stealth uppers so awesome back in the day.

VZ 58 Tactical Rifle 556/223-Czechpoint

VZ 58 Pistol 556 Czechpoint

VZ 58 5.56 Magazine-Czechpoint


Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:49:38 PM EDT
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The AC unitys seems like they'll be the affordable option if they hold up to the test of time. Unfortunately the Zastava poly 5.56 mags will probably be too fat for non Zastava AKs.
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I'm glad someone addressed the demand for 5.56 mags.

Circle 10 5.56 mag prices are even more ridiculous than they used to be, if you could even find them in stock. That was the only thing I didn't like about my slr-106.
The AC unitys seems like they'll be the affordable option if they hold up to the test of time. Unfortunately the Zastava poly 5.56 mags will probably be too fat for non Zastava AKs.

The Zastava poly mag does fit and feed the SLR-106.  It’s a little on the tighter side but not outrageous.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:49:40 PM EDT
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Thank you again everyone I guess I didn’t realize there are so many variations of the 5.56 AK mag I figured they would be like the other calibers and be standard
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That's the biggest drawback of 5.56 AK's. Although a lot of the newer offerings all work with Arsenal waffle type mags.

But the biggest reason I bought an M90 is Galil mags are still cheap and they're tough.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:54:17 PM EDT
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When I got my 5.56 AK it went to the top of my AK pile. Love my M90.

AS mentioned above in this thread, the best mag option is to use 5.54mm '74 mags with 5.56mm  followers,
they are just a better-quality option.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 8:57:08 PM EDT
[#36]
PSA AK 556

Takes AR mags, 1/2x28 threaded barrel, mine runs like a scalded dog.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:06:31 PM EDT
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My 5.45 AKs are my favorite I don’t own anything that shoots smoother and more softly too bad the ammo is getting so hard to find hopefully one day someone will start making it here
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:08:45 PM EDT
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Friend has had one forever.  Loves it.  Don’t recall the flavor.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:11:15 PM EDT
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PSA is going to make 7.62x39, 5.45x39 and 7.62x54r, I’m not sure if they’re making it under their AAC brand or something else.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:16:56 PM EDT
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PSA is going to make 7.62x39, 5.45x39 and 7.62x54r, I’m not sure if they’re making it under their AAC brand or something else.
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That’s awesome, hopefully they can keep up with the demand
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:17:55 PM EDT
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SAN Sig 55x is what you want.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:23:55 PM EDT
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I had an Arsenal SLR 106FR for a while. It was pretty accurate and completely reliable. It also had damn near no recoil at all. I was shocked the first time I fired it.

In the end, I traded it off. It didn't do anything an AR couldn't, optics mounting was possible with the rail but kinda clunky. Add in the price for mags and it just wasn't a keeper.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:30:26 PM EDT
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I had an Arsenal SLR 106FR for a while. It was pretty accurate and completely reliable. It also had damn near no recoil at all. I was shocked the first time I fired it.

In the end, I traded it off. It didn't do anything an AR couldn't, optics mounting was possible with the rail but kinda clunky. Add in the price for mags and it just wasn't a keeper.
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I almost sold/traded mine over mag prices. I am glad I kept it even if it is outclassed by a cheap AR.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:32:01 PM EDT
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What's your budget?
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:34:47 PM EDT
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VEPR 5.56 has been rock solid.




Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:35:35 PM EDT
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I’m going to say 1600 or so
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:35:52 PM EDT
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But that ain't an AK! I do like my 7.62 VZ58 quite a bit. Was a fun build. Trigger kinda sucks but nothing like the huge nasty sear the commercial guns use with both sear springs in place.

My favorite rifle cartridge is 5.45x39 though. Like it so much I make my own brass from 556 brass and swage down .224 bullets for it.


My 556 saiga has been great but ((10)) mags are spendy.


Today, if I were looking for a 556 AK I'd buy a PSA that uses AR mags. Solves the mag issue using cheap STANAG mags found everywhere.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:42:08 PM EDT
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I would get a beryl. Have a 106 and a m-85. Oh and a shitty wasr. Had a 106cr that wouldn't run at all.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:44:46 PM EDT
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Build a Time Machine and get an M95A.



Link Posted: 7/15/2023 9:45:37 PM EDT
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Arsenal is nice, but flat out overpriced
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Agreed. I was going to buy an arsenal before covid but I kept talking myself out of it because it does exactly what an AR does.
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