User Panel
Posted: 5/23/2023 12:43:21 PM EDT
In place pending appeal
eta: Oral arguments set for 29 June |
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Was just posting this.
There is a BUT...which means it only applies to the plaintiffs....for now. |
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Quoted: The "as to plantiffs" part means it rules in favor of the plantiffs, not just "for the plantiff" We have injuction relief too! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Was just posting this. There is a BUT...which means it only applies to the plaintiffs....for now. The "as to plantiffs" part means it rules in favor of the plantiffs, not just "for the plantiff" We have injuction relief too! I didn't know that. I've never read orders like that in that manner - interesting. |
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HUGE NEWS!! Injunction Granted in Pistol Brace Case...BUT... |
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One thing I'm not sure about if this is just 5th circuit region specific.
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“Dear ATF, I’d like to unregister my freeBR. Please delete all records on your end. Kthnxbi”
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Either the NFA is the NFA or it’s not. Strike down the perfectly reasonable ATF judgement on this ( based on existing NFA guidance ) and the NFA is 100% modified to no longer include length ( at least ! ).
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Quoted: It will set a precedence to expand. I would not be surprised if at least 87% of the US population including law makers/enforcers/etc... have no idea about any of this. View Quote Indeed! The firearms policy coalition is a plantiff so members should have injunction relief too. Needs alot of clarification as the extent. |
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I've donated to them.......hopefully the whole pistol brace thing gets thrown out with the trash
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Quoted: Soooooo, I'm already a member of GOA. Sounds like I might need to join FPC soon as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Indeed! The firearms policy coalition is a plantiff so members should have injunction relief too. Needs alot of clarification as the extent. Soooooo, I'm already a member of GOA. Sounds like I might need to join FPC soon as well. $30 to join |
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Quoted: Quoted: Either the NFA is the NFA or it’s not. Strike down the perfectly reasonable ATF judgement on this ( based on existing NFA guidance ) and the NFA is 100% modified to no longer include length ( at least ! ). Not sure if sarcasm or retarded Look at who posted it. Glowing bot. |
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Engelhardt and Haynes are Bush 43 appointees.
Oldham is a Trump appointee. |
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Hopefully they went Full Hawaiian and it is a nationwide injunction covering everybody. One can dream...
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All over a device that makes pistol firing more accurate? Danger…
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Quoted: All over a device that makes pistol firing more accurate? Danger… View Quote See if it is less accurate it is more dangerous because you could hit anybody. If it is more accurate it is more danger because the better chance you'll hit your target and harm/kill them. everything is more dangerous! More dangerous than what? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Either the NFA is the NFA or it’s not. Strike down the perfectly reasonable ATF judgement on this ( based on existing NFA guidance ) and the NFA is 100% modified to no longer include length ( at least ! ). Not sure if sarcasm or retarded We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now. |
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Quoted: See if it is less accurate it is more dangerous because you could hit anybody. If it is more accurate it is more danger because the better chance you'll hit your target and harm/kill them. everything is more dangerous! More dangerous than what? View Quote Diet Dr. Pepper tastes more like regular Dr. Pepper |
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Quoted: See if it is less accurate it is more dangerous because you could hit anybody. If it is more accurate it is more danger because the better chance you'll hit your target and harm/kill them. everything is more dangerous! More dangerous than what? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: All over a device that makes pistol firing more accurate? Danger… See if it is less accurate it is more dangerous because you could hit anybody. If it is more accurate it is more danger because the better chance you'll hit your target and harm/kill them. everything is more dangerous! More dangerous than what? Don't forget some of their other "logic"..... tHaT bRaCe Is AdJuStAbLe, tHaT iS mOaR dAnGeRoUs!!!1!11! ThAt FoLdEr AlLoWs YoU tO fOlD tHe BrAcE oUt Of ThE wAy WhErE iT cAn'T bE uSeD aS a StOcK wHiCh Me So CoNfUsEd!!!!1!!111! |
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Quoted: We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now. View Quote Attached File |
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Winning is better than losing.
But who actually gains what from this temporary injunction? ATF is blocked from enforcing the rule on individuals but they already weren't until June 1 and the appeal will probably be ruled on in June. I guess they're temporarily blocked from enforcing against sales but how many ffls and suppliers are going to sell during an injunction of a few weeks. Remember Illinois. Don't celebrate the temporary win unwisely. Anything bought now would be illegal if the appeal goes the other way and not even eligible for a freebie. |
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