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Originally Posted By boolzi: For everyone who wears a mask out, are you wearing it so you don’t get the virus or are you wearing it so you don’t spread it? View Quote I’m wearing it because my grocery store requires it for entry. The one girl at the meat counter told me that pretty much everyone that works there tested positive at some point. |
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To hell with the masks, to hell with businesses that require one for entry, and to hell with those who feel the need to express their opinion that I should have one.
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Originally Posted By BustinCaps: Of herd immunity is the next goal, surely we have data on how long immunity last, evidence it exists at all, and evidence there are no significant long term effects from infection, right? Oh wait. We don’t understand any of those things about covid-19 in an even elementary way. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BustinCaps: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By TheRealCocowheats: Originally Posted By JoseCuervo: So, just to confirm where this goes, we all have to wear a mask for the rest of our lives in case we are sick but don't know it? And what if there is no cure and/or vaccine??? Masks become permanent then? This is truly the absurd part. Hospitals aren't overloaded....the curve is flattened. Herd immunity should be the next goals...which means we actually need to get sick. Again, I'm just explaining the reasoning behind masks even if I personally don't think they're warranted now. Of herd immunity is the next goal, surely we have data on how long immunity last, evidence it exists at all, and evidence there are no significant long term effects from infection, right? Oh wait. We don’t understand any of those things about covid-19 in an even elementary way. We understand enough to know what we're doing now is stupid. |
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Originally Posted By 45-Longslide: They are the newest form of virtue signaling. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 45-Longslide: Originally Posted By Lancelot: If masks work then why isn't everything open? If masks don't work then why are we wearing them? They are the newest form of virtue signaling. I will not wear one, everybody I know doesn't wear one and guess what? Nobody is sick! I just watch the cdc keep revising the death count down by the thousands and laugh at all the karens and doomers. Sorry karen but you're not a hero and doomers this is not the apocalypse you been fantasizing about, back to your boring lives. |
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I’m not wearing a mask, because I don’t believe they do any good, unless your sick.
I also don’t install chain link fence as mosquito nets. My opinion is, that fear and propaganda, have enslaved the sheep, to the pasture. How easily the masses are controlled, through fear, and lies! To think, a nation once full of free thinking Americans, has been reduced to a mass of brain-washed simpletons...in just a few decades. If you think you can seriously hide from a virus, I have a bridge in Minneapolis to sell you. |
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Originally Posted By shootertim: I’m not wearing a mask, because I don’t believe they do any good, unless your sick. I also don’t install chain link fence as mosquito nets. My opinion is, that fear and propaganda, have enslaved the sheep, to the pasture. How easily the masses are controlled, through fear, and lies! To think, a nation once full of free thinking Americans, has been reduced to a mass of brain-washed simpletons...in just a few decades. If you think you can seriously hide from a virus, I have a bridge in Minneapolis to sell you. View Quote The point is you don't know if you're sick and asymptomatic... Again not saying I think masks are great or that they should be mandated....just seriously surprised people don't get this yet. |
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Originally Posted By shootertim: I’m not wearing a mask, because I don’t believe they do any good, unless your sick. I also don’t install chain link fence as mosquito nets. My opinion is, that fear and propaganda, have enslaved the sheep, to the pasture. How easily the masses are controlled, through fear, and lies! To think, a nation once full of free thinking Americans, has been reduced to a mass of brain-washed simpletons...in just a few decades. If you think you can seriously hide from a virus, I have a bridge in Minneapolis to sell you. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: The point is you don't know if you're sick and asymptomatic... Again not saying I think masks are great or that they should be mandated....just seriously surprised people don't get this yet. View Quote Lmfao!!! This is a virus, like a cold, or the flu. Do you think you can hide from it? Your best bet would be to let your immune system build immunity, before it mutates into something worse! This virus has “gain of function” which means it has the ability to mutate! Your immune system fights off germs, and viruses daily....when you over sanitize, it can become lazy. If your immune system is lazy, or weakened...this virus will become much more serious, then you will be in trouble. |
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Originally Posted By shootertim: Lmfao!!! This is a virus, like a cold, or the flu. Do you think you can hide from it? Your best bet would be to let your immune system build immunity, before it mutates into something worse! This virus has “gain of function” which means it has the ability to mutate! Your immune system fights off germs, and viruses daily....when you over sanitize, it can become lazy. If your immune system is lazy, or weakened...this virus will become much more serious, then you will be in trouble. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By shootertim: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: The point is you don't know if you're sick and asymptomatic... Again not saying I think masks are great or that they should be mandated....just seriously surprised people don't get this yet. Lmfao!!! This is a virus, like a cold, or the flu. Do you think you can hide from it? Your best bet would be to let your immune system build immunity, before it mutates into something worse! This virus has “gain of function” which means it has the ability to mutate! Your immune system fights off germs, and viruses daily....when you over sanitize, it can become lazy. If your immune system is lazy, or weakened...this virus will become much more serious, then you will be in trouble. Please read what I wrote. Consider it. And don't make any other assumptions beyond what I wrote. You even agree they can help slow the spread if you're sick. The point is you don't know if you're sick. |
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I'm in a profession dealing with people here in NY.
A. People wearing masks in public is effective in the prevention of spreading it to others if they have it regardless of changing it. B. Changing them regularly would obviously help how effective they are from preventing contraction of it. C. If everyone understood and followed A then B would matter less. Unfortunately common sense isn't possessed by most. There's roughly 28,000 people dead from this in NY. Having the most dense population in the United States is one reason for that, people simply not caring is the other. No one knows who has it unless you are obviously sick, many are asymptomatic carriers...that's with any virus ever... It's not a matter of fearing something, it's about common sense and avoiding negligence especially to those you do care about. You may not care if you get it, you may not know if you already have it but not caring easily leads to someone close to you getting it and dying. You can all roll your eyes and not care but you might care when your elderly neighbor, your grandmother, a small child with asthma or a friend with underlying health issues is Dead because You had given them what you didn't realize you had, because you simply didn't care or because you just wanted to stomp your feet and say No to the government. |
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Please read what I wrote. Consider it. And don't make any other assumptions beyond what I wrote. You even agree they can help slow the spread if you're sick. The point is you don't know if you're sick. View Quote Well, you should also consider what I wrote, because this virus isn’t going anywhere soon. The sooner we gain a natural immunity, the better off we will all be. |
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Originally Posted By shootertim: Well, you should also consider what I wrote, because this virus isn’t going anywhere soon. The sooner we gain a natural immunity, the better off we will all be. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By shootertim: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Please read what I wrote. Consider it. And don't make any other assumptions beyond what I wrote. You even agree they can help slow the spread if you're sick. The point is you don't know if you're sick. Well, you should also consider what I wrote, because this virus isn’t going anywhere soon. The sooner we gain a natural immunity, the better off we will all be. You're arguing with me about something I'm not saying, which is why I asked you to reread what I wrote. I'm not arguing with your entire post, just the one little part. So please, stop pretending I'm saying something I'm not. |
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I just use it as an excuse to break out the cosplay shemaghs. No, I don’t wash it after every outing. It doesn’t matter.
We’re all going to get it before it’s over and done. |
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Originally Posted By GarandM1: Is the OP saying that bacteria I exhale from my own lungs, throat, and nose is going to infect me? View Quote Do you wash your dishes after eating on them? Do you wash your body at least every day? Do you wear the same underwear every day? Do you wash your hands after using the bathroom? It is a fact that most smart phones contain more bacteria and God knows what else than the typical toilet seat. What I'm saying is that your mask is probably just as disgusting as your freakin' underwear and you are wearing masked up against your face. That is all. |
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I just got my skull mask. If people are going to get pissy when I don’t wear one, I’ll at least make sure what I’m toting around is sufficiently obnoxious.
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Originally Posted By shootertim: Well, you should also consider what I wrote, because this virus isn’t going anywhere soon. The sooner we gain a natural immunity, the better off we will all be. View Quote So then sacrifice all those who are unable to build immunity, whom are instead quickly killed by the virus rather than try to prevent spread til hopefully effective treatment is determined? Darwinism I guess? Regardless of me being susceptible to this or not, I care about my parents, family and those close to me enough to not wish to roll the dice on them building immunity or being rapidly killed. |
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Originally Posted By boolzi: For everyone who wears a mask out, are you wearing it so you don’t get the virus or are you wearing it so you don’t spread it? View Quote Third option, I wear it so all the weirdos don’t stop me and ask why I’m not wearing my mask or because it’s required to get in to where I’m going. |
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: You're arguing with me about something I'm not saying, which is why I asked you to reread what I wrote. I'm not arguing with your entire post, just the one little part. So please, stop pretending I'm saying something I'm not. View Quote Calm down man, I just don’t agree with everything you said. We are not in a heated argument, or are we? Don’t mistake our difference in opinion, with hostility. We are allowed to a difference in opinion...that is what being free men is all about. |
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Originally Posted By sindekhan: So then sacrifice all those who are unable to build immunity, whom are instead quickly killed by the virus rather than try to prevent spread til hopefully effective treatment is determined? Darwinism I guess? Regardless of me being susceptible to this or not, I care about my parents, family and those close to me enough to not wish to roll the dice on them building immunity or being rapidly killed. View Quote Lmfao!!!!! A bit offended? |
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Originally Posted By shootertim: Calm down man, I just don’t agree with everything you said. We are not in a heated argument, or are we? Don’t mistake our difference in opinion, with hostility. We are allowed to a difference in opinion...that is what being free men is all about. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By shootertim: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: You're arguing with me about something I'm not saying, which is why I asked you to reread what I wrote. I'm not arguing with your entire post, just the one little part. So please, stop pretending I'm saying something I'm not. Calm down man, I just don’t agree with everything you said. We are not in a heated argument, or are we? Don’t mistake our difference in opinion, with hostility. We are allowed to a difference in opinion...that is what being free men is all about. What makes you think I'm not calm? Once again, I'm explaining to you the logic behind wearing masks even if you don't think you're sick. That's all. You're assuming I'm saying a bunch of other stuff which I'm not. I'm not saying covid is so bad we should be wearing them. I'm not saying mandating it is good. In fact if you look back to previous posts I'm of the mind we need to get herd immunity (if that's possible, and it looks like it probably is) as quickly as possible without overloading hospitals. I am just simply explaining the logic behind seemingly healthy people wearing masks. |
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: You're arguing with me about something I'm not saying, which is why I asked you to reread what I wrote. I'm not arguing with your entire post, just the one little part. So please, stop pretending I'm saying something I'm not. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By shootertim: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Please read what I wrote. Consider it. And don't make any other assumptions beyond what I wrote. You even agree they can help slow the spread if you're sick. The point is you don't know if you're sick. Well, you should also consider what I wrote, because this virus isn’t going anywhere soon. The sooner we gain a natural immunity, the better off we will all be. You're arguing with me about something I'm not saying, which is why I asked you to reread what I wrote. I'm not arguing with your entire post, just the one little part. So please, stop pretending I'm saying something I'm not. Dude, if they stopped doing that, we'd just about stop having COVID threads. |
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Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Dude, if they stopped doing that, we'd just about stop having COVID threads. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By shootertim: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Please read what I wrote. Consider it. And don't make any other assumptions beyond what I wrote. You even agree they can help slow the spread if you're sick. The point is you don't know if you're sick. Well, you should also consider what I wrote, because this virus isn’t going anywhere soon. The sooner we gain a natural immunity, the better off we will all be. You're arguing with me about something I'm not saying, which is why I asked you to reread what I wrote. I'm not arguing with your entire post, just the one little part. So please, stop pretending I'm saying something I'm not. Dude, if they stopped doing that, we'd just about stop having COVID threads. Yeah that's true lol |
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Originally Posted By sindekhan: I'm in a profession dealing with people here in NY. A. People wearing masks in public is effective in the prevention of spreading it to others if they have it regardless of changing it. B. Changing them regularly would obviously help how effective they are from preventing contraction of it. C. If everyone understood and followed A then B would matter less. Unfortunately common sense isn't possessed by most. There's roughly 28,000 people dead from this in NY. Having the most dense population in the United States is one reason for that, people simply not caring is the other. No one knows who has it unless you are obviously sick, many are asymptomatic carriers...that's with any virus ever... It's not a matter of fearing something, it's about common sense and avoiding negligence especially to those you do care about. You may not care if you get it, you may not know if you already have it but not caring easily leads to someone close to you getting it and dying. You can all roll your eyes and not care but you might care when your elderly neighbor, your grandmother, a small child with asthma or a friend with underlying health issues is Dead because You had given them what you didn't realize you had, because you simply didn't care or because you just wanted to stomp your feet and say No to the government. View Quote Great post |
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Originally Posted By sindekhan: I'm in a profession dealing with people here in NY. A. People wearing masks in public is effective in the prevention of spreading it to others if they have it regardless of changing it. B. Changing them regularly would obviously help how effective they are from preventing contraction of it. C. If everyone understood and followed A then B would matter less. Unfortunately common sense isn't possessed by most. There's roughly 28,000 people dead from this in NY. Having the most dense population in the United States is one reason for that, people simply not caring is the other. No one knows who has it unless you are obviously sick, many are asymptomatic carriers...that's with any virus ever... It's not a matter of fearing something, it's about common sense and avoiding negligence especially to those you do care about. You may not care if you get it, you may not know if you already have it but not caring easily leads to someone close to you getting it and dying. You can all roll your eyes and not care but you might care when your elderly neighbor, your grandmother, a small child with asthma or a friend with underlying health issues is Dead because You had given them what you didn't realize you had, because you simply didn't care or because you just wanted to stomp your feet and say No to the government. View Quote Basically this......And I wash my mask 2 times a day. I am required to use one for work, I am required to use one to go to a store, I am required to not give a F what anyone at a computer screen in their basement thinks. |
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I have a couple n95s on hand for when I hit someplace requiring them, and I rotate.
I don't play in public much so it's not a daily thing. |
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Originally Posted By glklvr: How are mask wearers going to just up and say one day "well, the government said I shouldn't wear one anymore, guess coronavirus suddenly became less deadly"? View Quote - Relative X isn't sick anymore, has recovered, and my catching or spreading probably won't kill them this week. -Wife/kid with said sickness died so I don't have to be as careful anymore (see above). - We develop a workable treatment, or learn something relevant than can shed light on prevention/avoidance, since a vaccine is unlikely. - Overreaching municipalities roll back requirements. - Business owners aren't requesting their use, ending my compliance out of common courtesy Your list may be shorter or longer depending on your mindset and personal situation. |
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Ftr I hate them, they're uncomfortable, hot, and a pita.
I work other factors into my case by case decisions, however. If nothing else, I get less angry looks when I'm hacking my lungs up with a mask on in public, in places that are requiring them. I fear for those with chronic lung conditions, allergies, etc with the hysteria rampant in some areas. |
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Heir Fauci said masks are of little benefit.
Dr Fauci now says no masks. (March 8, 2020 Interview) |
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The company that I work for put a work from home policy in place since this started. Unfortunately, my job requires me to be out in public on a nearly daily basis. I think I've actually worked from home twice in 2 months.
I have a bunch of vented N95's. I wear one everyday as it's required by my employer and to enter any business at this point. I don/doff it properly and when my day ends it goes in a dated paper bag and stays in a hot garage. I have 30+ masks in rotation now. If and when they get funky, I'll replace them. 60 more NIB in my closet. |
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Originally Posted By Strict58: Heir Fauci said masks are of little benefit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRUYcMCtQT0 View Quote Yes, little benefit. That's why he says to focus on health care providers and people who are ill. |
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Quoted: Do you wash your dishes after eating on them? Do you wash your body at least every day? Do you wear the same underwear every day? Do you wash your hands after using the bathroom? It is a fact that most smart phones contain more bacteria and God knows what else than the typical toilet seat. What I'm saying is that your mask is probably just as disgusting as your freakin' underwear and you are wearing masked up against your face. That is all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Is the OP saying that bacteria I exhale from my own lungs, throat, and nose is going to infect me? Do you wash your dishes after eating on them? Do you wash your body at least every day? Do you wear the same underwear every day? Do you wash your hands after using the bathroom? It is a fact that most smart phones contain more bacteria and God knows what else than the typical toilet seat. What I'm saying is that your mask is probably just as disgusting as your freakin' underwear and you are wearing masked up against your face. That is all. And when the mask becomes wet, or dirty, or torn, or otherwise compromised then I stop wearing it because it becomes less effective. But simply breathing on it is not going to make it infectious to me. I certainly don't share it with anyone else, but I don't worry about what is coming out of my lungs. |
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Masks work, but as long as there are "but muh FREEDOMZ" mouth breathers (see what I did there?) Out there the mask can only do so much. The problem is people are fucking idiots if the government tells them to do something then they automatically want to do the opposite no matter what it is, I swear some of these idiots if the government told him to just breathe normally they start holding their fucking breath just to protest.
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Originally Posted By barrysuperhawk: Masks work, but as long as there are "but muh FREEDOMZ" mouth breathers (see what I did there?) Out there the mask can only do so much. The problem is people are fucking idiots if the government tells them to do something then they automatically want to do the opposite no matter what it is, I swear some of these idiots if the government told him to just breathe normally they start holding their fucking breath just to protest. View Quote You know who else was an advocate of breathing normally? HITLER! |
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Originally Posted By barrysuperhawk: Masks work, but as long as there are "but muh FREEDOMZ" mouth breathers (see what I did there?) Out there the mask can only do so much. The problem is people are fucking idiots if the government tells them to do something then they automatically want to do the opposite no matter what it is, I swear some of these idiots if the government told him to just breathe normally they start holding their fucking breath just to protest. View Quote I don't think anyone is saying masks don't do something to help. I think people are not happy with govt over extending their reach. With that said Ill wear a mask if a business requires it. If I'm outside in my neighborhood or walking through town I'm not wearing one. |
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