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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:31:13 PM EDT
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TL;DR version. Let real gunsmiths work on your 1911. This is true.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:32:36 PM EDT
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Fuck all that. Ive got a dremel.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:32:50 PM EDT
[#3]
Trump's fault
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:33:05 PM EDT
[#4]
Throwing a lower, buffer tube, and a lpk into a bag now, will report back with results after shaking well.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:37:27 PM EDT
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A quick PSA from a gun smith, in regard to 1911s. I know with the cheap and plentiful supply of AR-15s and the massive bloom of home builders. Most time the parts can be thrown in a bag shaken and it will pretty much self assemble. Please do not think that all firearms are like that, especially the old 1911. And be aware that most places sell both stock sized and custom oversized parts. Oversized parts need fitted to the gun, stock sized on rare occasions will as well. DO NOT try and force fit the parts! Then use a screwdriver and try and pry them back apart. Messing up both the parts and the once nicely blued frame. Today I've spent the last 3 hrs of my shift on a gun that was described. It would of been a nice 1.5 hr job if the customer didn't try to DYI. And he had oversized everything gut wise in it. I know cool story bro, but its more of a "If its above your pay grade seek help before you make it more of a mess." 
I plan on doing a 80% 1911 one day, but come assembly time I will be having my local 1911 gunsmith guide me through choosing the right parts and assembly. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:38:21 PM EDT
[#6]
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Throwing a lower, buffer tube, and a lpk into a bag now, will report back with results after shaking well. 
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:39:38 PM EDT
[#7]
You got my gun done yet? It was almost finished when I brought it to you
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:39:40 PM EDT
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Need three squirts of CLP or it may not work |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:40:20 PM EDT
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Throwing a lower, buffer tube, and a lpk into a bag now, will report back with results after shaking well. 
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:40:23 PM EDT
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guilty as charged.
ETA: but I dremeled my way into it...I'll dremel my way out of it. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:41:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Ah yes.
I bought a stock 1911 intending to use it to teach myself gunsmithing awhile ago.  Make Ready With Paul Liebenberg: Gunsmithing The 1911 A very... Educational and frustrating experience. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:43:01 PM EDT
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guilty as charged.
ETA: but I dremeled my way into it...I'll dremel my way out of it.  I like that.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:43:06 PM EDT
[#13]
I bought the Kunhausen books and said fuck it, it is too much hand fitting and too much work.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:44:24 PM EDT
[#14]
1911's LOL, the weekend hot rod of the gun world. Work on them all week to take them out on the weekend.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:45:10 PM EDT
[#15]
I would not dream of trying to fit parts together on a 1911. I saw a video years ago on tv (outdoor channel) how some custom company builds 1911s. There were many iterations of filing and attempting to fit the slide on the lower. Like watching paint dry.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:46:36 PM EDT
[#16]
Fat guy wants to be a gunsmith then is pissed when he is asked to do gunsmith shit.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:47:11 PM EDT
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You got my gun done yet? It was almost finished when I brought it to you |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:47:35 PM EDT
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1911's LOL, the weekend hot rod of the gun world. Work on them all week to take them out on the weekend. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:48:44 PM EDT
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No 2 weeks.. It will be ready in 2 weeks! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You got my gun done yet? It was almost finished when I brought it to you
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:52:04 PM EDT
[#20]
Screw that.
Failure is part of learning. Where this guy really screwed up is taking his firearm to a "gunsmith" in the first place. He should have kept at it, until it was perfect, or he destroyed the gun. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:52:08 PM EDT
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Fat guy wants to be a gunsmith then is pissed when he is asked to do gunsmith shit. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:53:08 PM EDT
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Screw that. Failure is part of learning. Where this guy really screwed up is taking his firearm to a "gunsmith" in the first place. He should have kept at it, until it was perfect, or he destroyed the gun. 
Sounds like my first 1911!
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Posted: 3/2/2019 6:54:08 PM EDT
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I'm glad you're taking your time to make 1911's live to their full potential. I wish every smith would take the time.
I have a Colt pistol that I wanted to take to Gunsite for a pistol class. I gave the gun to well known gunsmith in Anchorage AK, who is acclaimed for his work on Marlin 1895's Sure he said "we'll get the trigger down to 4#" and make it very reliable. Imagine my surprise when prone at 50 yards my 1911 goes fully automatic. Luckily the onsite smithy took care of it during the lunch break. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 7:06:53 PM EDT
[#24]
I took my first 1911 apart to change out the mainspring. It never was right again. I'm unsure how I got rid of it.
Oh a guy drove 100 miles and bought it in the dark, along with a rusty wingmaster that was painted. He lowballed the eff out of me. I got my money back out of them though. The second one I'm leaving alone. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 7:13:49 PM EDT
[#25]
I built my first 1911 type pistol in the late 80s. It wasn't perfect, but it worked just fine with 230 grain ball, and was acceptably accurate.
Fortunately, I didn't have access to the internet to tell me how difficult it was. Later examples were better. They do take a lot of work and time. It might be time for another.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 7:16:43 PM EDT
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I continually have to remind some of my friends that most guns are not as easy to assemble yourself as an ar15 is.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 7:17:13 PM EDT
[#27]
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Throwing a lower, buffer tube, and a lpk into a bag now, will report back with results after shaking well.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 7:17:46 PM EDT
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I disagree. That’s how you learn.
I bought a beater S&W Model 10-8 a couple of weeks ago. It had a bobbed hammer, so I bought a new one and fitted it. It’s not perfect yet, but I was able to carefully fit it and make it function well, and will tear it down again soon to work in the DA pull. I’m impressed with the complexity and sensitivity of that gun’s internals, but I’ve done enough gunsmithing and machine work at this point to know how to to fuck it up right off the bat. John Moses Browning was once an amateur too. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 7:20:14 PM EDT
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Sounds like my first 1911! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Screw that. Failure is part of learning. Where this guy really screwed up is taking his firearm to a "gunsmith" in the first place. He should have kept at it, until it was perfect, or he destroyed the gun.
Sounds like my first 1911! His skills have much improved, but this one functions fine. I treasure it because of what it is. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 7:20:28 PM EDT
[#30]
Yet another reason the 1911 is obsolete as anything other than a toy.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 7:24:18 PM EDT
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Need three squirts of CLP or it may not work Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Throwing a lower, buffer tube, and a lpk into a bag now, will report back with results after shaking well. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 7:25:16 PM EDT
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On my SA 1911 to add a safety grip that didn't hurt my hand, it needed a special beaver tail that required grinding on the frame. I bought a jig so I wouldn't remove too much material. I went slow and it took me 3 hours I think.
Just a biiiiit of pucker. Turned out ok, but that is my limit for gun smithing. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 7:27:06 PM EDT
[#33]
Hopefully the OP is better at working on guns than he is at spelling and grammar.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 7:30:51 PM EDT
[#34]
Damn, I thought that Kimber would have sized the parts right to start with. I guess the 500 round break in period is so the owner can fire-swag the parts.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 7:31:15 PM EDT
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OP, what's your average fee for fitting a barrel?
I'm trying to find someone (locally if possible) to fit an aftermarket threaded barrel to my 1911 and don't want to get boned without lube. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 7:38:22 PM EDT
[#36]
Pshhhh, you should see what happened when my angle grinder and AR collided this morning
Nah but for real listen to the OP, 1911's ain't nothin to truck with. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:04:06 PM EDT
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I bought the Kuhnhausen books and said fuck it, it is too much hand fitting and too much work. and some minor upgrades like replacing the trigger and installing an aftermarket Ed Brown magwell. But building the entire gun? Maybe someday when I have more time, all the tools and training yeah. But not now. https://www.amazon.com/Automatic-M1911-M1911A1-Pistols-Kuhnhausen/dp/B01896004C/ref=sr_1_9?crid=1S0DLDRIDJU2R&keywords=jerry+kuhnhausen+shop+manuals&qid=1551570644&s=books&sprefix=jerry+kuhn%2Caps%2C187&sr=1-9 |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:10:01 PM EDT
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I bought a two Sistemas about a decade ago - one to keep stock and the other to build a custom 1911 on. I am glad I did it but it was twice the work and money I planned on. I did everything myself and learned a lot (beaver tail, all new parts, custom fit barrel, replaced tiny sights with modern ones). The gun is accurate and reliable but doesn’t look as pretty as Wilson. You have to have a lot of patience and be prepared for some parts to not work well. Drop in on a 1911 means “sometimes” if you are lucky. I did get lucky with the fire control group which dropped in and gave a perfect 4.5lb pull (except the grip safety). Everything else needed filing and polishing and fitting etc..
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:14:40 PM EDT
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No 2 weeks.. It will be ready in 2 weeks! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You got my gun done yet? It was almost finished when I brought it to you  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:24:30 PM EDT
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I plan on doing a 80% 1911 one day, but come assembly time I will be having my local 1911 gunsmith guide me through choosing the right parts and assembly. You'll need someting better than a harbor freight dial caliper to measure with too..... My avatar is one that I did myself long ago.. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:27:31 PM EDT
[#41]
You’re not my supervisor!
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:29:40 PM EDT
[#42]
In on Fudd thread.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:33:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No 2 weeks.. It will be ready in 2 weeks! |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:38:13 PM EDT
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1911's LOL, the weekend hot rod of the gun world. Work on them all week to take them out on the weekend.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:41:04 PM EDT
[#45]
LOL you 1911 people, you can dremel a Glock receiver out of a hunk of velveeta with a jig kit that will operate more reliably than those archaic weapons.
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:43:41 PM EDT
[#46]
Pie...
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:44:40 PM EDT
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LOL you 1911 people, you can dremel a Glock receiver out of a hunk of velveeta with a jig kit that will operate more reliably than those archaic weapons. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:45:56 PM EDT
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A quick PSA from a gun smith, in regard to 1911s. I know with the cheap and plentiful supply of AR-15s and the massive bloom of home builders. Most time the parts can be thrown in a bag shaken and it will pretty much self assemble. Please do not think that all firearms are like that, especially the old 1911. And be aware that most places sell both stock sized and custom oversized parts. Oversized parts need fitted to the gun, stock sized on rare occasions will as well. DO NOT try and force fit the parts! Then use a screwdriver and try and pry them back apart. Messing up both the parts and the once nicely blued frame. Today I've spent the last 3 hrs of my shift on a gun that was described. It would of been a nice 1.5 hr job if the customer didn't try to DYI. And he had oversized everything gut wise in it. I know cool story bro, but its more of a "If its above your pay grade seek help before you make it more of a mess." |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:47:15 PM EDT
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Hopefully the OP is better at working on guns than he is at spelling and grammar. |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 8:48:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PSA from the English speaking world. It is "need to be fitted." Get your GD illegal immigrant slang out of the internet |
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