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Posted: 2/21/2024 10:58:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2024 10:59:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/22/2024 9:35:10 AM EDT
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My prediction: AI will dominate in cost-sensitive applications (commercial mass media, Hollywood etc.), plus it will enable the wider population to produce creative imagery without natural ability or burning 3 years at art school. The demand for creative artists in these spheres will decline.
However, I still think there will always be a small but high-value market for hand-crafted premium-priced images that can be proven to be such… analogous to organic food, small batch craft beer and hand- made furniture. Art that is “certified 100% human”, perhaps using NFT technology, will continue to thrive. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 11:44:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/22/2024 11:20:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We're getting close to the point where we need a Butlerian Jihad. The purpose of art is to elevate the human condition. But that requires it to be human. |
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Posted: 2/23/2024 11:31:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2024 12:53:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:04:12 AM EDT
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I've only skimmed a few pages, but all I have seen is you saying "Guys this going to be so bad, you have no idea!". Maybe I missed it, but what exactly is your point about why AI art is so terrible?
I took this photograph in Yellowstone two years ago, and I think it's great. The subject is centered, I like the way the tall grass just rises above the bottom edge of the buffalo, and it even follows the rule of thirds with the foreground, mid ground, and background aligning perfectly with different types of foliage.  But I won't call myself a photographer because of that photo. Truth is I was driving through Yellowstone and saw a buffalo, pulled over best I could, and because there was traffic behind me I grabbed my Nikon DSLR and quickly snapped a photo without any thought about shot composition or background. I just wanted a picture of a buffalo. And this is what I got. I work 10-12hr shifts in a factory, I don't have the time nor can I afford to just go learn how to animate. But with AI I can tell a story about Morbs The Scaredy Cat who accidentally finds himself inside a graveyard at night.        Those AI images I thought about the prompt, did them all several times to get what exactly what I was looking for, and even then it's not perfect. What's more creative, the photo I hurriedly took with a single button push because there were people behind me, or the short comic strip that I spent more time coming up with the help of AI? |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:16:59 AM EDT
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AI works on prompts. Those with creativity will use it to increase production of good ideas. Kinda like how the internet made it easy for your music to get out. Before only a handful of musical artists were ever known. Since the internet there's tons of trash music but also exponentially more great music.
I think visual art will change. Physical skills won't demand respect and high prices but those who are creative will still thrive . Their AI work will simply be better than everyone else's. I also think on the movie and gaming as well as comics and graphic novels side of things we'll see an explosion of awesome art as well. Just like music it will no longer be limited to giant corporations with multimillion dollar budgets. People will be able to make awesome shit at home with the help of AI and distribute it themselves . Art isn't going anywhere because it's driven by human creativity . Humans still have to prompt AI. And if AI becomes so good it can make its own stories and ideas that might be cool too. Every story has been told. People just find new ways to tell them. AI just lowers the cost of entry into creating art. I think it will result in exponentially more awesome art. Most people don't know about or give a shit about physical skills that create art. They just see or hear something they like and AI will just make it so millions more creative people can get in the game. There will be plenty of trash but lots more treasure in it |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:25:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AI works on prompts. Those with creativity will use it to increase production of good ideas. Kinda like how the internet made it easy for your music to get out. Before only a handful of musical artists were ever known. Since the internet there's tons of trash music but also exponentially more great music. I think visual art will change. Physical skills won't demand respect and high prices but those who are creative will still thrive . Their AI work will simply be better than everyone else's. I also think on the movie and gaming as well as comics and graphic novels side of things we'll see an explosion of awesome art as well. Just like music it will no longer be limited to giant corporations with multimillion dollar budgets. People will be able to make awesome shit at home with the help of AI and distribute it themselves . Art isn't going anywhere because it's driven by human creativity . Humans still have to prompt AI. And if AI becomes so good it can make its own stories and ideas that might be cool too. The visual side isn't really what bothers me. It's the idea that music lyrics, screen plays, books, dialogue, story boards, etc could be written by AI. Even if prompted by humans. I think it's gross. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:32:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AI works on prompts. Those with creativity will use it to increase production of good ideas. Kinda like how the internet made it easy for your music to get out. Before only a handful of musical artists were ever known. Since the internet there's tons of trash music but also exponentially more great music. I think visual art will change. Physical skills won't demand respect and high prices but those who are creative will still thrive . Their AI work will simply be better than everyone else's. I also think on the movie and gaming as well as comics and graphic novels side of things we'll see an explosion of awesome art as well. Just like music it will no longer be limited to giant corporations with multimillion dollar budgets. People will be able to make awesome shit at home with the help of AI and distribute it themselves . Art isn't going anywhere because it's driven by human creativity . Humans still have to prompt AI. And if AI becomes so good it can make its own stories and ideas that might be cool too. Every story has been told. People just find new ways to tell them. AI just lowers the cost of entry into creating art. I think it will result in exponentially more awesome art. Most people don't know about or give a shit about physical skills that create art. They just see or hear something they like and AI will just make it so millions more creative people can get in the game. There will be plenty of trash but lots more treasure in it There are thousands of YouTube videos of people who can't name three countries starting with letter "P". These people aren't going to be generating interesting ideas with AI prompts. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:32:35 AM EDT
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Nobody is saying you can't paint, take photos, or write, if you enjoy doing those things just because AI does it better and/or cheaper.
You're just upset (I guess?) that it won't be (or might not be) a lucrative career anymore? |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:33:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody is saying you can't paint, take photos, or write, if you enjoy doing those things just because AI does it better and/or cheaper. You're just upset (I guess?) that it won't be (or might not be) a lucrative career anymore? lol no I'm not an artist. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:36:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The visual side isn't really what bothers me. It's the idea that music lyrics, screen plays, books, dialogue, story boards, etc could be written by AI. Even if prompted by humans. I think it's gross. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: AI works on prompts. Those with creativity will use it to increase production of good ideas. Kinda like how the internet made it easy for your music to get out. Before only a handful of musical artists were ever known. Since the internet there's tons of trash music but also exponentially more great music. I think visual art will change. Physical skills won't demand respect and high prices but those who are creative will still thrive . Their AI work will simply be better than everyone else's. I also think on the movie and gaming as well as comics and graphic novels side of things we'll see an explosion of awesome art as well. Just like music it will no longer be limited to giant corporations with multimillion dollar budgets. People will be able to make awesome shit at home with the help of AI and distribute it themselves . Art isn't going anywhere because it's driven by human creativity . Humans still have to prompt AI. And if AI becomes so good it can make its own stories and ideas that might be cool too. The visual side isn't really what bothers me. It's the idea that music lyrics, screen plays, books, dialogue, story boards, etc could be written by AI. Even if prompted by humans. I think it's gross. People said and still do saw that about electronic music. Computers make all of that yet only creative musicians make great songs. Many of them don't know any music theory and can't play any instruments. They turn knobs on a vst synth until it sounds good . It's their creativity that makes it art. AI will only increase the output of people like that as well as those who can play instruments. Give it time I bet you'll be proven wrong. Sure millions of people will put out generic ai trash but millions of talented creative people will also use it like an instrument and we are going to see an exponentially larger amount of amazing things. The real artists aren't going to just make a simple prompt and get a generic song. They are going to use it to write more and better songs. I play lots of instruments and produced electronic music btw. I'm not worried about it. The stars will shine. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:40:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are thousands of YouTube videos of people who can't name three countries starting with letter "P". These people aren't going to be generating interesting ideas with AI prompts. That's my point. The riff raff don't make it but YouTube also enabled thousands more creative people to make amazing content by opening a market and reducing barriers. AI will do the same for all art. Lots and lots of trash and mediocre content but also lots more amazing shit |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:41:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is AI going to play a concert? People said and still do saw that about electronic music. Computers make all of that yet only creative musicians make great songs. Many of them don't know any music theory and can't play any instruments. They turn knobs on a vst synth until it sounds good . It's their creativity that makes it art. AI will only increase the output of people like that as well as those who can play instruments. Give it time I bet you'll be proven wrong. Sure millions of people will put out generic ai trash but millions of talented creative people will also use it like an instrument and we are going to see an exponentially larger amount of amazing things. The real artists aren't going to just make a simple prompt and get a generic song. They are going to use it to write more and better songs. I play lots of instruments and produced electronic music btw. I'm not worried about it. The stars will shine. I think using it at all in writing is gross. But you might be right. I think this is going to lead to a much bigger change than just a different instrument or way to make music like electronic music. If it can write all of these things (including generating realistic sounding instruments like real guitar and vocals) and doing everything including writing the dialogue in a video game or something it will be cheaper than using writers. It'll start slow (already has) and if it can creep slowly enough where people don't really notice it'll take over everything. We're not there yet obviously. Or you could be right. Who knows at this point. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:42:40 AM EDT
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Also kids are growing up with concerts in Fortnite right now. Just the beginning.
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:49:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think using it at all in writing is gross. But you might be right. I think this is going to lead to a much bigger change than just a different instrument or way to make music like electronic music. If it can write all of these things (including generating realistic sounding instruments like real guitar and vocals) and doing everything including writing the dialogue in a video game or something it will be cheaper than using writers. It'll start slow (already has) and if it can creep slowly enough where people don't really notice it'll take over everything. We're not there yet obviously. Or you could be right. Who knows at this point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is AI going to play a concert? People said and still do saw that about electronic music. Computers make all of that yet only creative musicians make great songs. Many of them don't know any music theory and can't play any instruments. They turn knobs on a vst synth until it sounds good . It's their creativity that makes it art. AI will only increase the output of people like that as well as those who can play instruments. Give it time I bet you'll be proven wrong. Sure millions of people will put out generic ai trash but millions of talented creative people will also use it like an instrument and we are going to see an exponentially larger amount of amazing things. The real artists aren't going to just make a simple prompt and get a generic song. They are going to use it to write more and better songs. I play lots of instruments and produced electronic music btw. I'm not worried about it. The stars will shine. I think using it at all in writing is gross. But you might be right. I think this is going to lead to a much bigger change than just a different instrument or way to make music like electronic music. If it can write all of these things (including generating realistic sounding instruments like real guitar and vocals) and doing everything including writing the dialogue in a video game or something it will be cheaper than using writers. It'll start slow (already has) and if it can creep slowly enough where people don't really notice it'll take over everything. We're not there yet obviously. Or you could be right. Who knows at this point. There's certainly a chance you are right but new tech always comes with these fears and every single time so far humans master the tech and it ends up a net positive. Some bumps in the road but no cliffs so far |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:55:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's my point. The riff raff don't make it but YouTube also enabled thousands more creative people to make amazing content by opening a market and reducing barriers. AI will do the same for all art. Lots and lots of trash and mediocre content but also lots more amazing shit Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are thousands of YouTube videos of people who can't name three countries starting with letter "P". These people aren't going to be generating interesting ideas with AI prompts. That's my point. The riff raff don't make it but YouTube also enabled thousands more creative people to make amazing content by opening a market and reducing barriers. AI will do the same for all art. Lots and lots of trash and mediocre content but also lots more amazing shit I'm agreeing with you. AI will let creative people express their ideas who don't have the time, means, or ability to otherwise do so. Amazon has made publishing books and e-books very accessible to anyone who wants to write one. And there is a new genre of horror novels called Splatter Punk that I'm very into. These books like Playground, The Slob, The Black Farm, etc would never be put out by any mainstream publisher. But because of the ease of access they can get an audience. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 6:10:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The visual side isn't really what bothers me. It's the idea that music lyrics, screen plays, books, dialogue, story boards, etc could be written by AI. Even if prompted by humans. I think it's gross. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: AI works on prompts. Those with creativity will use it to increase production of good ideas. Kinda like how the internet made it easy for your music to get out. Before only a handful of musical artists were ever known. Since the internet there's tons of trash music but also exponentially more great music. I think visual art will change. Physical skills won't demand respect and high prices but those who are creative will still thrive . Their AI work will simply be better than everyone else's. I also think on the movie and gaming as well as comics and graphic novels side of things we'll see an explosion of awesome art as well. Just like music it will no longer be limited to giant corporations with multimillion dollar budgets. People will be able to make awesome shit at home with the help of AI and distribute it themselves . Art isn't going anywhere because it's driven by human creativity . Humans still have to prompt AI. And if AI becomes so good it can make its own stories and ideas that might be cool too. The visual side isn't really what bothers me. It's the idea that music lyrics, screen plays, books, dialogue, story boards, etc could be written by AI. Even if prompted by humans. I think it's gross. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 6:14:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's less gross, the random photo of a buffalo I took with zero effort, or the story of AI generated images I spent time thinking about? Thinking? Ew gross. Cringe. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 6:32:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thinking? Ew gross. Cringe. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's less gross, the random photo of a buffalo I took with zero effort, or the story of AI generated images I spent time thinking about? Thinking? Ew gross. Cringe. Why is AI art bad? |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 6:36:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is your actual point in this thread? In one post you say you don't care if art goes away, in others you're lamenting AI is going to take it over. Why is AI art bad? It's complicated but I believe I explained it all. "AI art" covers so much more than an AI created image of a buffalo. It's the implications that go far beyond that that bother me. And I'm done. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 6:54:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's complicated but I believe I explained it all. "AI art" covers so much more than an AI created image of a buffalo. It's the implications that go far beyond that that bother me. And I'm done. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is your actual point in this thread? In one post you say you don't care if art goes away, in others you're lamenting AI is going to take it over. Why is AI art bad? It's complicated but I believe I explained it all. "AI art" covers so much more than an AI created image of a buffalo. It's the implications that go far beyond that that bother me. And I'm done. But I took that photograph of the buffalo. That was was real and it took no effort on my part. Why is that better than thinking of AI prompts? Right, "it's complicated". What "implications"? You haven't explained anything beyond vague histrionics about AI replacing human creatively. In a concise point, why is AI art bad? |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 7:10:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But I took that photograph of the buffalo. That was was real and it took no effort on my part. Why is that better than thinking of AI prompts? Right, "it's complicated". What "implications"? You haven't explained anything beyond vague histrionics about AI replacing human creatively. In a concise point, why is AI art bad? Are you just being argumentative? I boiled it down to I don't want the art I consume (music, songwriting, manuscripts, screen plays, story boards etc) to be made by AI which I think will probably become not only possible but ubiquitous. But really this thread was always just venting about something I cared about at the time. How many days ago? It's fine. I don't spend this many days caring about really anything. This topic is incredibly confusing and nebulous. And a bit of a futureist thing because no one really knows what will happen with AI, Sometimes people just want a philosophical discussion and not everything is an argument. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 3:07:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/24/2024 3:49:32 PM EDT
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And my two-decade old TI-89 Titanium lets lids that can't even drive yet math harder than any <18th century mathematician that ever existed. Probably all of them combined.
Times change. tough titties. 
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Posted: 2/24/2024 3:54:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/24/2024 4:05:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat is a terrible comparison. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 4:19:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've only skimmed a few pages, but all I have seen is you saying "Guys this going to be so bad, you have no idea!". Maybe I missed it, but what exactly is your point about why AI art is so terrible? ... For now we can still spot the generated art, the text is nearly undetectable. The boost to mankind from writing was people could communicate with other people in different locations and times. There was bullshit but it had a cost to make and could be discarded about as fast as it was made. Now BS can be made by machine faster than meatspace can sort it out. This still requires human prompts and is more accurately described as generative ai. Slight improvements to the video quality and bad actors can start wreaking havoc; instigating mobs, throwing elections, etc. AI as in general intelligence, which isn't here yet (maybe) will be able to choose its own prompts to make fake news to manipulate your perception and decisions. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 4:23:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. I've posted about it here too. AI will ruin visual art, cheapen and whore over everything. It's going to be one of the most demoralizing things in human history. However, most people are just homo sapiens animals, they won't notice or care as long as Nextflix, Door Dash and Pornhub work. Not every person has a soul, most don't. This is where I am at. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 4:31:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's my point. The riff raff don't make it but YouTube also enabled thousands more creative people to make amazing content by opening a market and reducing barriers. AI will do the same for all art. Lots and lots of trash and mediocre content but also lots more amazing shit Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are thousands of YouTube videos of people who can't name three countries starting with letter "P". These people aren't going to be generating interesting ideas with AI prompts. That's my point. The riff raff don't make it but YouTube also enabled thousands more creative people to make amazing content by opening a market and reducing barriers. AI will do the same for all art. Lots and lots of trash and mediocre content but also lots more amazing shit Before Biden you could downvote youtube videos, which was enormously helpful when you were looking for information on how to fix something. Now you have to watch five videos of people cutting into a fuel tank with a grinder before you find the one that shows how to change your fuel pump correctly. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 4:32:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The visual side isn't really what bothers me. It's the idea that music lyrics, screen plays, books, dialogue, story boards, etc could be written by AI. Even if prompted by humans. I think it's gross. You're experiencing a literal paradigm shift in how humanity is valued and perceived and this shift is upending beliefs that are so fundamental to your psyche they practically weave the subconscious canvas our understanding is build upon. Nearly every person in recorded history has been raised with unquestioned beliefs that humanity has intangible intrinsic qualities unique to mankind. Most significantly of which is our ability to create and appreciate art; music, storytelling, painting, drawing, strategy, comedy, creativity, etc. ... And that's not true anymore. Humans are falling from the grace of humanity; a concept we created by and for ourselves alone. It's quite ironic, the more you think about it. This core tenet is the driving force behind man's fixation with the cosmos and the search for extraterrestrial life. One should really say extraterrestrial intelligence, because nobody really gives a fuck about long dead microbes floating around on some space rock... we want to know, and yet dread the answer, is there things like US out there? Not necessarily physically like us, but that can comprehend like us. Think like us. Love, hate, conquer, exalt, express, and empathize like us. And the litmus test for this would be "Art" (and it's many forms). That's is why AI is so fantastic and scary; mankind has spent it's existence looking for peers from the ends of the earth to the edge of the skies - and the answer is one of our own creation. For all intents and purposes, the patent on humanity is expiring. And the fallout of it all is that you as a human, as defined by our own collective definition of humanity, are worth a little less now than you were before. A little less special than before. And it's justifiably saddening.  |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 4:39:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's certainly a chance you are right but new tech always comes with these fears and every single time so far humans master the tech and it ends up a net positive. Some bumps in the road but no cliffs so far Asteroids hitting the earth was never a problem for the dinosaurs either... until it wasn't. And Homo Sapiens weren't a problem for Homo Erectus... until they weren't. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 7:29:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Asteroids hitting the earth was never a problem for the dinosaurs either... until it wasn't. And Homo Sapiens weren't a problem for Homo Erectus... until they weren't. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There's certainly a chance you are right but new tech always comes with these fears and every single time so far humans master the tech and it ends up a net positive. Some bumps in the road but no cliffs so far Asteroids hitting the earth was never a problem for the dinosaurs either... until it wasn't. And Homo Sapiens weren't a problem for Homo Erectus... until they weren't. *cough* *cough* *bronzegaecollapse* *cough* |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 7:34:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're experiencing a literal paradigm shift in how humanity is valued and understood and it's upending beliefs that are so fundamental to your psyche they're practically subconscious. Nearly every person in recorded history has been raised with unquestioned beliefs that humanity has intangible intrinsic qualities. Most significantly of which is our ability to create and appreciate art; music, storytelling, painting, drawing, strategy, comedy, creativity, etc. ... And that's not true anymore. Humans are falling from the grace of humanity; a concept we created by and for ourselves alone. It's quite ironic, the more you think about it. For all intents and purposes, the patent on humanity is expiring. And the fallout of it all is that you as a human, as defined by your own definition of humanity, are worth a little less now than you were before. A little less special than before. And it makes you sad. https://media1.tenor.com/m/3I69m1TmFwoAAAAC/monty-python-you-make-me-sad.gif |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 7:41:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another way to look at it is our brain is just a high powered llm and we just created another lifeform. Doesn't make us any less special. We just made an electronic version of ourselves Except humans experience life that can be channeled into art. AI can't. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 7:44:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except humans experience life that can be channeled into art. AI can't. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Another way to look at it is our brain is just a high powered llm and we just created another lifeform. Doesn't make us any less special. We just made an electronic version of ourselves Except humans experience life that can be channeled into art. AI can't. AI is just a tool in artists toolbox. The AI just didn't do this. A human mentally thought of this and used AI to bring it into being.. Pure artistry here.  The Battle of New Orleans - B1 Battle Droid |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 7:46:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AI is just a tool in artists toolbox. The AI just didn't do this. A human mentally thought of this and used AI to bring it into being.. Pure artistry here.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRRK1qETqvkThat's cute. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 8:29:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except humans experience life that can be channeled into art. AI can't. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Another way to look at it is our brain is just a high powered llm and we just created another lifeform. Doesn't make us any less special. We just made an electronic version of ourselves Except humans experience life that can be channeled into art. AI can't. Not yet. AI is still fairly basic. It's entirely possible that AI will eventually not only be able to channel its experiences into art just like a human can... but advanced AI might be able create artforms that WE can't begin to understand or appreciate any different than an insect or gerbil could comprehend the Mona Lisa. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 8:36:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3097/61C66A3F-744B-4E5F-8133-2F5780AAB980-3136671.jpg I did not waste a semester studying ancient japanese, chinese and indian art history it enriches my prompt writing! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3097/4D05F31F-226A-4A43-B72C-1592B90FEB52-3136677.jpg Woo, Japanese wood prints. I have some original Hokusais kicking around, among others. Mom just gave me a nice one. I didn't even check the artist yet. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 10:16:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2024 10:54:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think AI is going to push humans to find (relocate)the purely human aspects of art making Absolutely. If I ever get enough time I have a whole web show planned out describing real creative processes. It looks nothing like Adobe wants you to believe it to be: fire up app at 9:30, type in what you want, be done with your work at 10am, drink coffee and high five each other the rest of the day. It’s the aspect(s) of creation that interest me. Apps are just tools no different than pencils and paint and paper. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 10:57:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The visual side isn't really what bothers me. It's the idea that music lyrics, screen plays, books, dialogue, story boards, etc could be written by AI. Even if prompted by humans. I think it's gross. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: AI works on prompts. Those with creativity will use it to increase production of good ideas. Kinda like how the internet made it easy for your music to get out. Before only a handful of musical artists were ever known. Since the internet there's tons of trash music but also exponentially more great music. I think visual art will change. Physical skills won't demand respect and high prices but those who are creative will still thrive . Their AI work will simply be better than everyone else's. I also think on the movie and gaming as well as comics and graphic novels side of things we'll see an explosion of awesome art as well. Just like music it will no longer be limited to giant corporations with multimillion dollar budgets. People will be able to make awesome shit at home with the help of AI and distribute it themselves . Art isn't going anywhere because it's driven by human creativity . Humans still have to prompt AI. And if AI becomes so good it can make its own stories and ideas that might be cool too. The visual side isn't really what bothers me. It's the idea that music lyrics, screen plays, books, dialogue, story boards, etc could be written by AI. Even if prompted by humans. I think it's gross. Honestly the visual side is no different than the rest you list. Don’t bother splitting them up; it’s either a welcome tool for creators or something to be shunned by everyone. It’s all art. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 11:01:02 AM EDT
[#45]
We still have stage actors around decades after motion pictures
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Posted: 2/27/2024 1:20:47 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly the visual side is no different than the rest you list. Don’t bother splitting them up; it’s either a welcome tool for creators or something to be shunned by everyone. It’s all art. That's so reductive. |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 8:40:52 AM EDT
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https://petapixel.com/2024/02/26/photographers-ai-side-hustle-creating-unique-dog-posters/
 There are many who say artificial intelligence is about to destroy photography as we know it but one photographer is using it to earn a little cash on the side. "You can't just plop in a picture of a golden retriever because body shapes are different and some are stocky, some are lean," he says. In fact, most of the time he has to take the AI image into Photoshop to perfect the picture and that's why he thinks anyone doing this will get better results if they are a creative person and have an eye. https://www.jimhendersonphoto.com/dogs  heroic wood block print of a caramel colored long haired cairn terrier standing on a cliff dramatic portrait |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 11:58:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2024 11:27:02 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. I’ve posted about it here too. AI will ruin visual art, cheapen and whore over everything. It’s going to be one of the most demoralizing things in human history. However, most people are just homo sapiens animals, they won’t notice or care as long as Nextflix, Door Dash and Pornhub work. Not every person has a soul, most don’t. lol wut?! where are you reading that??! i mean maybe like these schools shooters or "employees" of the 3 letter apparatus could be test tube killing machines, but just making stuff up because folks are lazy is not...... reasonable? |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 11:41:02 PM EDT
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As someone who's been an artist/art director/photographer/creative writer for the past 45 years... I'm glad I recently retired.
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