[ARCHIVED THREAD] - ARIZONA REGULATOR dropped America’s FRT in EE - Q&A ask the Inventor/Manufacturer (Page 14 of 21)
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Quoted: Wouldn't the original AZR-15 be a better choice for those with new SSAs so it could be filed to fit or is the change in the disco so dramatic that the AZR won't make proper contact? You have to use the **REDACTED** like in my pic on the site That’s the 100% drop in compatible one Somewhere on the last page I pasted how you can adjust a non compatible **REDACTED** trigger to work with my units But changing units won’t do anything when they have the wrong trigger. M2 series or original AZR-15 will both do the same thing if it’s a non compatible trigger ( eta if they want to fix it for y’all that’s their call. It’s a very simple thing on their end to make one adjustment and have all theirs work for y’all. make the disconnector tails all the same as that tail has zero bearing on core trigger function. It’s aesthetic. It just has meat there to keep spring from popping out. Hell 70s OG AR iirc didn’t have a tail on the disconnector at all the back was open and spring exposed unlike the well shape that captures spring nowadays ) ( ETA 07-22-25 **REDACTED** Means any trigger you may decide to try with our new AZR-15M2-R unit configuration. We will no longer name other triggers unless the manufacturer submits a letter to use asking us to name thier trigger(s) as we have received a Cease and Desist from one trigger manufacturer. Many brand triggers out on the market may fall within this **REDACTED** parameter which means triggers that have a disconnector that will push down into the trigger bar which is the condition which makes this a factory Pre Set 100% Drop In as stated herin. You can modify the top of a Mil-Spec Disconnector to use with this unit so the disconnector pushes down into the trigger bar if you want to set up and be able remove the unit and shoot normally whenever you like.  )
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Quoted: if they want to fix it for y’all that’s their call. It’s a very simple thing on their end to make one adjustment and have all theirs work for y’all. Attached File |
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Quoted: Quoted: if they want to fix it for y’all that’s their call. It’s a very simple thing on their end to make one adjustment and have all theirs work for y’all. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/subnetfavoritelol-1033.gif Right? I'm not trying to be an ass, and I understand Zulu not wanting to redo his design to accommodate, but the G trigger the Regulator is designed around is an out of production design from years back and the new design disco is in the vast majority of the new G triggers being sold. G sells way more triggers than Zulu does Regulators so they aren't going to redesign. The simplest fix here would be a picture indicating how to modify the new G disco to work. In my mind you cannot make a short tail longer so the fix is something else. If it's to file the disco down somewhere simply show us the correct disco overlaid on the wrong one so we can see what to remove. And before Zulu gets mad, I'm not knocking his product, I think its the best of the FRT designs I've seen to date, and the fact that it will drop into a milspec rifle and run is amazing. That you can quickly move it to whatever rifle you're using that day is a huge selling point. It really is a gift to the community. Some of us are just better with visuals than with words. |
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Quoted: The AZ Regulator would absolutely own the FRT market if it were three-position selectable. But then it couldn't be a drop in unit which is the whole point of it. If you have to start changing safeties and such, it's only good for those rifles, and those rifles then wouldn't work without it. |
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Quoted: Right? I'm not trying to be an ass, and I understand Zulu not wanting to redo his design to accommodate, but the G trigger the Regulator is designed around is an out of production design from years back and the new design disco is in the vast majority of the new G triggers being sold. G sells way more triggers than Zulu does Regulators so they aren't going to redesign. The simplest fix here would be a picture indicating how to modify the new G disco to work. In my mind you cannot make a short tail longer so the fix is something else. If it's to file the disco down somewhere simply show us the correct disco overlaid on the wrong one so we can see what to remove. And before Zulu gets mad, I'm not knocking his product, I think its the best of the FRT designs I've seen to date, and the fact that it will drop into a milspec rifle and run is amazing. That you can quickly move it to whatever rifle you're using that day is a huge selling point. It really is a gift to the community. Some of us are just better with visuals than with words. Quoted: But then it couldn't be a drop in unit which is the whole point of it. If you have to start changing safeties and such, it's only good for those rifles, and those rifles then wouldn't work without it. Dude you are no duty expert so stand down The **REDACTED** we do is perfect Apparently there are TONS of them on the streets Again folks have been using the **REDACTED** triggers since July 4 2024 We have only had a few calls which were all on **REDACTED** models or the low end **REDACTED** models. Which are not the base **REDACTED** model To add insult to your injury. Last week I sent a care package to the AR15.com offices. One of the models that was mentioned that they especially liked was the AZR-15-**REDACTED**. If it didn’t work my cell would have lit up with a question from them on it. Now to dispel your assessment on 3 position Again you are not qualified to make mechanical statements on my product line, at minimum 3 position is not a problem. While also using any standard milspec 3 position selector ( ETA 07-22-25 **REDACTED** Means any trigger you may decide to try with our new AZR-15M2-R unit configuration. We will no longer name other triggers unless the manufacturer submits a letter to use asking us to name thier trigger(s) as we have received a Cease and Desist from one trigger manufacturer. Many brand triggers out on the market may fall within this **REDACTED** parameter which means triggers that have a disconnector that will push down into the trigger bar which is the condition which makes this a factory Pre Set 100% Drop In as stated herin. You can modify the top of a Mil-Spec Disconnector to use with this unit so the disconnector pushes down into the trigger bar if you want to set up and be able remove the unit and shoot normally whenever you like. ) |
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Quoted: The AZ Regulator would absolutely own the FRT market if it were three-position selectable. Quoted: Possibly a three position selector that only functions when the AZR is installed? Bingo Quoted: The AZ Regulator would absolutely own the FRT market if it were three-position selectable. We have a winner Which is why I am walking the Gauntlet at this time I know what I created. I created it on purpose for everyone. Nothing new. Had the same flak from the opposition in the Smith Revolver world when I dropped the Lock Delete on that big board 8 years ago That didn’t stop me it served to make my brand take roots across America where we still are at the top of the game in what we do there Same with my J Frame 38/357 moon clips. Always flak when in create a new item. I crushed the j frame moon clip market with the only one that works with every brand 38/357 ammo. Sans euro cases that do not have a rebate under the case rim I also may have a 3 pos for LaRue MBT and **REDACTED** **REDACTED** up my sleeve Thus as seen if a manufacture makes changes that cause them to no longer be compatible with my system then you guys will have to go to that manufacture and get them to make a correction so you can use their trigger The LaRue is rock solid and will never have the disconnector question as shown in previous posts. LaRue lands on a solid stantion that is machined onto the trigger body. Highly doubt they will change that as it already works with their exact trigger and there is no reason for LaRue to take away your ability to use my units with their trigger If **REDACTED** wants in the game they will do something to help you guys out so you can use their other triggers. ( ETA if I hear from them I would work with them as I will have to grant license for them to manufacture an intentionally compatible trigger as that is a feature I have locked down in my Letters Patent Pending ) I have no control over what they as a manufacture do not do I are to have any say in what they do. I just keep going and giving y’all more brands that you can use. All the manufacturers are pissed I guarantee it. Because as you stated I have created the thing Look close at the selector in this video Straight plain ol M16 selector using a milspec trigger Thus pick whatever selector you want to use and you are good as long as that selector is compatible with the milspec FCG  MIL-SPEC 3 POSITION S.F.T. SYSTEM ( ETA 07-22-25 **REDACTED** Means any trigger you may decide to try with our new AZR-15M2-R unit configuration. We will no longer name other triggers unless the manufacturer submits a letter to use asking us to name thier trigger(s) as we have received a Cease and Desist from one trigger manufacturer. Many brand triggers out on the market may fall within this **REDACTED** parameter which means triggers that have a disconnector that will push down into the trigger bar which is the condition which makes this a factory Pre Set 100% Drop In as stated herin. You can modify the top of a Mil-Spec Disconnector to use with this unit so the disconnector pushes down into the trigger bar if you want to set up and be able remove the unit and shoot normally whenever you like. )
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Quoted: Dude you are no duty expert so stand down The SSA we do is perfect Apparently there are TONS of them on the streets Again folks have been using the G triggers since July 4 2024 We have only had a few calls which were all on E models or the low end G models. Which are not the base SSA model To add insult to your injury. Last week I sent a care package to the AR15.com offices. One of the models that was mentioned that they especially liked was the AZR-15-SSA. If it didn’t work my cell would have lit up with a question from them on it. Now to dispel your assessment on 3 position Again you are not qualified to make mechanical statements on my product line, at minimum 3 position is not a problem. While also using any standard milspec 3 position selector Quoted: Quoted: Right? I'm not trying to be an ass, and I understand Zulu not wanting to redo his design to accommodate, but the G trigger the Regulator is designed around is an out of production design from years back and the new design disco is in the vast majority of the new G triggers being sold. G sells way more triggers than Zulu does Regulators so they aren't going to redesign. The simplest fix here would be a picture indicating how to modify the new G disco to work. In my mind you cannot make a short tail longer so the fix is something else. If it's to file the disco down somewhere simply show us the correct disco overlaid on the wrong one so we can see what to remove. And before Zulu gets mad, I'm not knocking his product, I think its the best of the FRT designs I've seen to date, and the fact that it will drop into a milspec rifle and run is amazing. That you can quickly move it to whatever rifle you're using that day is a huge selling point. It really is a gift to the community. Some of us are just better with visuals than with words. Quoted: But then it couldn't be a drop in unit which is the whole point of it. If you have to start changing safeties and such, it's only good for those rifles, and those rifles then wouldn't work without it. Dude you are no duty expert so stand down The SSA we do is perfect Apparently there are TONS of them on the streets Again folks have been using the G triggers since July 4 2024 We have only had a few calls which were all on E models or the low end G models. Which are not the base SSA model To add insult to your injury. Last week I sent a care package to the AR15.com offices. One of the models that was mentioned that they especially liked was the AZR-15-SSA. If it didn’t work my cell would have lit up with a question from them on it. Now to dispel your assessment on 3 position Again you are not qualified to make mechanical statements on my product line, at minimum 3 position is not a problem. While also using any standard milspec 3 position selector In this thread alone we have seen several members having trouble with drop in using current production SSAs and SD3Gs. We all understand this is due to a design change done by G and not your product. This design change by G isn't likely to be reversed so there will be many SSAs that will require a modification to work. Once again, NO ONE is saying that's your fault. NO ONE. They are only asking for a better explination and simple photo of what to modify on the G products that are experiencing problems. We know it's possible because YOU have said it is. I've never seen another business that treated customers and potential customers like they were an inconvenience, even if they were complimenting the product. My statement regarding a 3 position still stands. If it requires a milspec 3 position selector, that is a modification to the rifle and would be required for any rifle you want to drop it into. As I stated "If you have to start changing safeties and such, it's only good for those rifles" I never said it wasn't possible, just that it defeats the simple "drop into any rifle" concept of the original AZR15. I'm certain there are many people who are perfectly happy to modify their rifles for a 3 position FRT device. No one is attacking you but you seem to react as if they were. |
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Quoted: Look close at the selector in this video Straight plain ol M16 selector using a milspec trigger Thus pick whatever selector you want to use and you are good as long as that selector is compatible with the milspec FCG  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc5E9xQJd40 |
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Quoted: In this thread alone we have seen several members having trouble with drop in using current production SSAs and SD3Gs. We all understand this is due to a design change done by G and not your product. This design change by G isn't likely to be reversed so there will be many SSAs that will require a modification to work. Once again, NO ONE is saying that's your fault. NO ONE. They are only asking for a better explination and simple photo of what to modify on the G products that are experiencing problems. We know it's possible because YOU have said it is. I've never seen another business that treated customers and potential customers like they were an inconvenience, even if they were complimenting the product. My statement regarding a 3 position still stands. If it requires a milspec 3 position selector, that is a modification to the rifle and would be required for any rifle you want to drop it into. As I stated "If you have to start changing safeties and such, it's only good for those rifles" I never said it wasn't possible, just that it defeats the simple "drop into any rifle" concept of the original AZR15. I'm certain there are many people who are perfectly happy to modify their rifles for a 3 position FRT device. No one is attacking you but you seem to react as if they were. Quoted: In this thread alone we have seen several members having trouble with drop in using current production SSAs and SD3Gs. We all understand this is due to a design change done by G and not your product. This design change by G isn't likely to be reversed so there will be many SSAs that will require a modification to work. Once again, NO ONE is saying that's your fault. NO ONE. They are only asking for a better explination and simple photo of what to modify on the G products that are experiencing problems. We know it's possible because YOU have said it is. I've never seen another business that treated customers and potential customers like they were an inconvenience, even if they were complimenting the product. My statement regarding a 3 position still stands. If it requires a milspec 3 position selector, that is a modification to the rifle and would be required for any rifle you want to drop it into. As I stated "If you have to start changing safeties and such, it's only good for those rifles" I never said it wasn't possible, just that it defeats the simple "drop into any rifle" concept of the original AZR15. I'm certain there are many people who are perfectly happy to modify their rifles for a 3 position FRT device. No one is attacking you but you seem to react as if they were. Again you are not qualified to make mechanical statements on my product line Your assessment is flawed at best and would seem to be intent on creating defamatory information about my product line Stop while you are ahead and before you potentially created a claim that could cause me substantial damages.... I have posted this on the prior page. Reading is fundamental. I have never read a TM manual to my Marines when I was in and I’m not going to read instructions to adults now Folks that cannot read I send to the local gunsmith so they can get help Quoted: Here’s a bit of **REDACTED** info Paste from my statement on them Was a response to another **REDACTED** trigger question Far as your other **REDACTED** triggers. I do know how to make those all work. But I don’t state it on the site. Why. Because you have to do a minor mod to make those compatible with my system Look to my M1 setup pic. Then take the short tail disconnecotr in the non compatible trigger and clean up the tail so it looks like my M1 disconnector tail Again. I willl never disclose this on the site as it will make me a shit ton of questions that I don’t have time for. Nor do I have the patients to hand hold adults that think the tech line is the gunsmith phone line. We do not go thru hold the file like this and do this then check that in tech calls. That’s what folks can use my triggers and setup videos for. Beyond that I send them to their local gunsmith so he can do it for them I’d they are not capable. A tech call is basic. I verify it’s a milspec AR, the carrier is correct, what trigger they have, and that they have the correct buffer. Then I have them get the TM manual out of the packaging and I point them to the section that applies to their question. Then there the ones that call and want me to read the site to them. I get a few pissed off people over that but straight up if I have to read the site or instructions to someone I don’t want them to buy my units. They may hurt themselves or others. Yep I’m a dick about that but these are big boy toys and if folks need hand held that’s what the local gunsmiths do. (Unlike you and others that have a good grasp on the concepts and can tinker on their own man ) Works every time. Never hear back from them as they are out playing with their new toy by then Also I call out only **REDACTED** and LaRue triggers that require zero modification to use them with our system Same will apply to other Industry Partner Brands. Zero mods only when I list another one. ( ETA 07-22-25 **REDACTED** Means any trigger you may decide to try with our new AZR-15M2-R unit configuration. We will no longer name other triggers unless the manufacturer submits a letter to use asking us to name thier trigger(s) as we have received a Cease and Desist from one trigger manufacturer. Many brand triggers out on the market may fall within this **REDACTED** parameter which means triggers that have a disconnector that will push down into the trigger bar which is the condition which makes this a factory Pre Set 100% Drop In as stated herin. You can modify the top of a Mil-Spec Disconnector to use with this unit so the disconnector pushes down into the trigger bar if you want to set up and be able remove the unit and shoot normally whenever you like. )
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Quoted: Bingo We have a winner Which is why I am walking the Gauntlet at this time I know what I created. I created it on purpose for everyone. Nothing new. Had the same flak from the opposition in the Smith Revolver world when I dropped the Lock Delete on that big board 8 years ago That didn’t stop me it served to make my brand take roots across America where we still are at the top of the game in what we do there Same with my J Frame 38/357 moon clips. Always flak when in create a new item. I crushed the j frame moon clip market with the only one that works with every brand 38/357 ammo. Sans euro cases that do not have a rebate under the case rim I also may have a 3 pos for LaRue MBT and Geissele SSA up my sleeve Thus as seen if a manufacture makes changes that cause them to no longer be compatible with my system then you guys will have to go to that manufacture and get them to make a correction so you can use their trigger The LaRue is rock solid and will never have the disconnector question as shown in previous posts. LaRue lands on a solid stantion that is machined onto the trigger body. Highly doubt they will change that as it already works with their exact trigger and there is no reason for LaRue to take away your ability to use my units with their trigger If Geissele wants in the game they will do something to help you guys out so you can use their other triggers. ( ETA if I hear from them I would work with them as I will have to grant license for them to manufacture an intentionally compatible trigger as that is a feature I have locked down in my Letters Patent Pending ) I have no control over what they as a manufacture do not do I are to have any say in what they do. I just keep going and giving y’all more brands that you can use. All the manufacturers are pissed I guarantee it. Because as you stated I have created the thing Look close at the selector in this video Straight plain ol M16 selector using a milspec trigger Thus pick whatever selector you want to use and you are good as long as that selector is compatible with the milspec FCG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc5E9xQJd40Exciting stuff! Let me know and I’ll be happy to snag a few, especially if they are MBT compatible. Your current version runs perfectly in my 9mm AR and several other AR versions. Keep up the good work sir! |
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Quoted: I created the ARIZONA REGULATOR Betsy Ross on the software in my office It’s one of a kind far as that goes I wanted a different III flag on my packaging so I made the flag for my site and packaging It's the 3percenter logo It is not new and unigue. three percenter |
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Quoted: Exciting stuff! Let me know and I’ll be happy to snag a few, especially if they are MBT compatible. Your current version runs perfectly in my 9mm AR and several other AR versions. Keep up the good work sir! I appreciate it MBT should be an easy one to do for y’all With the current **REDACTED** gauntlet I’m dealing with those guys may never get a 3 position version aside from exactly what I already do for **REDACTED** triggers We shall see if **REDACTED** decides to accommodate their customers with something consistent and compatible to our current engineering ( eta clarify SSA config ) ( ETA 07-22-25 **REDACTED** Means any trigger you may decide to try with our new AZR-15M2-R unit configuration. We will no longer name other triggers unless the manufacturer submits a letter to use asking us to name thier trigger(s) as we have received a Cease and Desist from one trigger manufacturer. Many brand triggers out on the market may fall within this **REDACTED** parameter which means triggers that have a disconnector that will push down into the trigger bar which is the condition which makes this a factory Pre Set 100% Drop In as stated herin. You can modify the top of a Mil-Spec Disconnector to use with this unit so the disconnector pushes down into the trigger bar if you want to set up and be able remove the unit and shoot normally whenever you like. )
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Mines different Note the actual III in the stars is different Original to my brand |
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Quoted: Quoted: I created the ARIZONA REGULATOR Betsy Ross on the software in my office It’s one of a kind far as that goes I wanted a different III flag on my packaging so I made the flag for my site and packaging It's the 3percenter logo It is not new and unigue. three percenter You should stop before you cause substantial damages! |
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Quoted: … Look close at the selector in this video Straight plain ol M16 selector using a milspec trigger Thus pick whatever selector you want to use and you are good as long as that selector is compatible with the milspec FCG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc5E9xQJd40That is a beautiful thing. Any idea on timeline? |
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What no one realizes is that I actively work behind the scenes with trigger manufactures to find you guys more brand triggers you can use There have been emails go out from a central industry contact I have that have been addressed to myself and the CEOs of a couple places to make initial contact I have then followed up with those men to no avail Zero response means those manufacturers do not want you using their triggers with out products No problem I will just ignore those manufacturers Should it become something where I have to crate y’all a perfect two stage trigger then I will create one and manufacture it I do not want to do that as there are already manufacturers that make triggers y’all like But again I will do what I have to do to get y’all costed on my end. What other refuse to do for you as their customers is out of my hands y’all |
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Quoted: I created the ARIZONA REGULATOR Betsy Ross on the software in my office It’s one of a kind far as that goes I wanted a different III flag on my packaging so I made the flag for my site and packaging Oh really? You created it? Are you certain? I always thought the "Nyberg flag of the three percent" was invented by the late Mike Vanderboegh almost two decades ago... 2010 post from Mikes Vanderboegh's website and 2012 post from Mike Vanderboegh's website How...ummm...coincidental. I guess your going to sue me now? |
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Quoted: Right? I'm not trying to be an ass, and I understand Zulu not wanting to redo his design to accommodate, but the G trigger the Regulator is designed around is an out of production design from years back and the new design disco is in the vast majority of the new G triggers being sold. G sells way more triggers than Zulu does Regulators so they aren't going to redesign. The simplest fix here would be a picture indicating how to modify the new G disco to work. In my mind you cannot make a short tail longer so the fix is something else. If it's to file the disco down somewhere simply show us the correct disco overlaid on the wrong one so we can see what to remove. And before Zulu gets mad, I'm not knocking his product, I think its the best of the FRT designs I've seen to date, and the fact that it will drop into a milspec rifle and run is amazing. That you can quickly move it to whatever rifle you're using that day is a huge selling point. It really is a gift to the community. Some of us are just better with visuals than with words. The AZR 15M2-SSA worked with my G SSA trigger including the G X SSA. How so? I think you're wrong. |
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Quoted: Oh really? You created it? Are you certain? I always thought the "Nyberg flag of the three percent" was invented by the late Mike Vanderboegh almost two decades ago... 2010 post from Mikes Vanderboegh's website and 2012 post from Mike Vanderboegh's website How...ummm...coincidental. I guess your going to sue me now? Different III font Simple |
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Quoted: The AZR 15M2-SSA worked with my G SSA trigger including the G X SSA. How so? I think you're wrong. Quoted: Quoted: Right? I'm not trying to be an ass, and I understand Zulu not wanting to redo his design to accommodate, but the G trigger the Regulator is designed around is an out of production design from years back and the new design disco is in the vast majority of the new G triggers being sold. G sells way more triggers than Zulu does Regulators so they aren't going to redesign. The simplest fix here would be a picture indicating how to modify the new G disco to work. In my mind you cannot make a short tail longer so the fix is something else. If it's to file the disco down somewhere simply show us the correct disco overlaid on the wrong one so we can see what to remove. And before Zulu gets mad, I'm not knocking his product, I think its the best of the FRT designs I've seen to date, and the fact that it will drop into a milspec rifle and run is amazing. That you can quickly move it to whatever rifle you're using that day is a huge selling point. It really is a gift to the community. Some of us are just better with visuals than with words. The AZR 15M2-SSA worked with my G SSA trigger including the G X SSA. How so? I think you're wrong. I appreciate that info Yours work perfectly even with X which I have not messed with X at all Which is why I won’t change my engineering and spec It works |
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Quoted: Different III font Simple Quoted: Quoted: Oh really? You created it? Are you certain? I always thought the "Nyberg flag of the three percent" was invented by the late Mike Vanderboegh almost two decades ago... 2010 post from Mikes Vanderboegh's website and 2012 post from Mike Vanderboegh's website How...ummm...coincidental. I guess your going to sue me now? Different III font Simple If you change the font of the scrolling Star Wars intro, then it isn't the scrolling Star Wars intro anymore, right? So if i change the color of the Arizona Regulator and release it as the Montana Dominator, it isn't your design because it is a different color? 
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Quoted: If you change the font of the scrolling Star Wars intro, then it isn't the scrolling Star Wars intro anymore, right? So if i change the color of the Arizona Regulator and release it as the Montana Dominator, it isn't your design because it is a different color? Ehh if you try to make a trigger that will hold up against mine is it still a trigger Bwahahahahah |
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Quoted: A legend appears. Hi Len!  Hey Ben! Been watching this thread...sorta like a traffic accident, I can't look away as it unfolds. Zero One Zulu dude is not the first to copy the "Nyberg Flag of the Three Percent". "Different font"...Gonna have to remember that one.
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Quoted: Again you are not qualified to make mechanical statements on my product line Your assessment is flawed at best and would seem to be intent on creating defamatory information about my product line Stop while you are ahead and before you potentially created a claim that could cause me substantial damages.... Quoted: Quoted: In this thread alone we have seen several members having trouble with drop in using current production SSAs and SD3Gs. We all understand this is due to a design change done by G and not your product. This design change by G isn't likely to be reversed so there will be many SSAs that will require a modification to work. Once again, NO ONE is saying that's your fault. NO ONE. They are only asking for a better explination and simple photo of what to modify on the G products that are experiencing problems. We know it's possible because YOU have said it is. I've never seen another business that treated customers and potential customers like they were an inconvenience, even if they were complimenting the product. My statement regarding a 3 position still stands. If it requires a milspec 3 position selector, that is a modification to the rifle and would be required for any rifle you want to drop it into. As I stated "If you have to start changing safeties and such, it's only good for those rifles" I never said it wasn't possible, just that it defeats the simple "drop into any rifle" concept of the original AZR15. I'm certain there are many people who are perfectly happy to modify their rifles for a 3 position FRT device. No one is attacking you but you seem to react as if they were. Again you are not qualified to make mechanical statements on my product line Your assessment is flawed at best and would seem to be intent on creating defamatory information about my product line Stop while you are ahead and before you potentially created a claim that could cause me substantial damages.... You can stop with the veiled threats of suing people for defamation, it looks fucking retarded. The only thing causing "substantial damages" to your brand is YOU. What's defamatory about saying that the current production SSAs don't seem to play well with the AZR without some modification? What's defamatory about saying that to have a 3 position version requires modifying a typical AR by replacing the safety selector? Take a look back through this thread and you'll notice I've done nothing but praise how your design is, in my opinion, the superior FRT on the market. I've never so much as mentioned any other FRT brand. But hey, fuck me and everyone else for having some questions in a thread entitled "Q&A, ask the manufacturer." |
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Quoted: If you change the font of the scrolling Star Wars intro, then it isn't the scrolling Star Wars intro anymore, right? So if i change the color of the Arizona Regulator and release it as the Montana Dominator, it isn't your design because it is a different color? Attached File |
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Quick note on orders shipping as I have had a few calls asking about that in the past few days Used to be everything shipped next work day. Late in week it’s still like that most of the time if there’s units left late in the week. Early week is busy and you won’t see next work day on those orders but a couple days and you will see them move via usps When we get busy like now everything that’s ordered gets shipped and you’ll see your tracking number move they usps before more units get added to the site for others to order Mail ins get pulled and filled before units are added to site for click and buy Everything in my manufacturing and subsequent processes goes in blocks When we put units out for click and buy on the site those units already physically exist and have passed qc From there that’s when the boxes get labeled and launched off to y’all |
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Quoted: If you change the font of the scrolling Star Wars intro, then it isn't the scrolling Star Wars intro anymore, right? So if i change the color of the Arizona Regulator and release it as the Montana Dominator, it isn't your design because it is a different color? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Oh really? You created it? Are you certain? I always thought the "Nyberg flag of the three percent" was invented by the late Mike Vanderboegh almost two decades ago... 2010 post from Mikes Vanderboegh's website and 2012 post from Mike Vanderboegh's website How...ummm...coincidental. I guess your going to sue me now? Different III font Simple If you change the font of the scrolling Star Wars intro, then it isn't the scrolling Star Wars intro anymore, right? So if i change the color of the Arizona Regulator and release it as the Montana Dominator, it isn't your design because it is a different color? Can't wait to buy a Montana Dominator. Just hoping it doesn't require a flow chart and a pilgrimage to a Tibetan monastery to decipher. |
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Quoted: Wouldn't the original AZR-15 be a better choice for those with new SSAs so it could be filed to fit or is the change in the disco so dramatic that the AZR won't make proper contact? You've got to be confused on which Arizona Regulator works with what trigger? The Geissele SSA and SSA X are not the Geissele SSA-E or their G2S trigger design(s). The Arizona Regulator model AZR-15M2-SSA is indeed a no tools required drop-in forced reset device that can be used with the Geissele SSA trigger. *Follow AZR instructions on the buffer weight for best function. During independent testing, the AZR-15M2-SSA also worked with an Geissele SSA X too. You must have a milspec upper receiver for the AZR device to fit. I hope that clarified it for you. It is what it is and it works. I'm looking forward to whatever the OP comes up with next. His idea of a 3-position is very intriguing. I would want one or two of those. |
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Quoted: You've got to be confused on which Arizona Regulator works with what trigger? The Geissele SSA and SSA X are not the Geissele SSA-E or their G2S trigger design(s). The Arizona Regulator model AZR-15M2-SSA is indeed a no tools required drop-in forced reset device that can be used with the Geissele SSA trigger. *Follow AZR instructions on the buffer weight for best function. During independent testing, it also worked with an Geissele SSA X too. You must have a milspec upper receiver for the AZR device to fit. I hope that clarified it for you. It is what it is and it works. I'm looking forward to whatever the OP comes up with next. His idea of a 3-position is very intriguing. I would want one or two of those. He's not talking about SSA-Es at all. He's talking about newer production SSAs. It apparently does not work with new production SSAs drop-in without modification. Hopefully the only people reading his website have really old SSAs. eta: Ironically, it sounds like it actually would work with my old ass SSA-Es drop in. 
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Quoted: He's not talking about SSA-Es at all. He's talking about newer production SSAs. It apparently does not work with new production SSAs drop-in without modification. Hopefully the only people reading his website have really old SSAs. I haven't seen anything yet to the contrary but hearsay. Who has a comparison of the old & new Geissele SSA? I'd want to see it for myself. Eta: I've been buying Geissele SSA for awhile and haven't noticed a difference at all. And it works with the SSA X too boot |
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Quoted: I haven't seen anything yet to the contrary but hearsay. Who has a comparison of the old & new Geissele SSA? I'd want to see it for myself. Quoted: Quoted: He's not talking about SSA-Es at all. He's talking about newer production SSAs. It apparently does not work with new production SSAs drop-in without modification. Hopefully the only people reading his website have really old SSAs. I haven't seen anything yet to the contrary but hearsay. Who has a comparison of the old & new Geissele SSA? I'd want to see it for myself. You and me, both. I simultaneously love and hate this thread. I want definitive info but... at the same time its a grotesquely beautiful trainwreck. eta: If I had any SSA non-Es I'd offer to meet up with you to compare. But all I've got are 2016, 2017, and 2018ish SSA-Es (and a couple other non-SSA) eta: What is the oldest SSA you have, Bishop? And newest? Maybe we can get some pics of known years going. |
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At this point I'm just following the thread to laugh at all the people throwing sissy fits about a product no one is forcing them to buy. The product has already ben explained over and over as well as thoroughly explained with the TM's on the Arizona Regulator website. pure kARen15.com gold |
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Quoted: I haven't seen anything yet to the contrary but hearsay. Who has a comparison of the old & new Geissele SSA? I'd want to see it for myself. Eta: I've been buying Geissele SSA for awhile and haven't noticed a difference at all. And it works with the SSA X too boot There are pictures of both new SSA and old gen SSA disconnectors posted on the previous page of. this thread (pg.13). Pull yours out and compare. The new production SSA has latest disconnector (shorter than the old gen SSA disconnector) and that's the reason why it's not working with the AZR M2-SSA. |
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Quoted: There are pictures of both new SSA and old gen SSA disconnectors posted on the previous page of. this thread (pg.13). Pull yours out and compare. The new production SSA has latest disconnector (shorter than the old gen SSA disconnector) and that's the reason why it's not working with the AZR M2-SSA. This is what I got and it is the same part number PN 05-101 these were likely purchased a few years apart. The last 2 triggers I bought were the SSA X Geissele model trigger. Attached File Attached File The AZR-15M2-SSA worked with these Geissele SSA triggers at least 2 of them (SSA) tested and, also worked with an Geissele SSA X trigger. Eta: I like the quality of Geissele triggers and have utilized the G2S, SSA, SSA-E, SSP and SSA X in my rifles. I even have a LaRue MBT 2S sitting in my parts bin (note: for a LaRue MBT 2S trigger use the Arizona Regulator model AZR-15M2-MBT) |
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Quoted: This is what I got and it is the same part number PN 05-101 these were likely purchased a few years apart. The last 2 triggers I bought were the SSA X Geissele model trigger. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89656/1000008440_jpg-3553980.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89656/1000008439_jpg-3553981.JPG The AZR-15M2-SSA worked with these Geissele SSA triggers at least 2 of them (SSA) tested and, also worked with an Geissele SSA X trigger. Eta: I like the quality of Geissele triggers and have utilized the G2S, SSA, SSA-E, SSP and SSA X in my rifles. I even have a LaRue MBT 2S sitting in my parts bin. Sir I've read your previous posts and yes we know it works for you and yes I have a bunch of SSA-E, SSP, SSF too. We don't want to see the part number on the box; that doesn't mean anything as Geissele could've updated the disconnector on their SSA but still keeping the same part number. We want to see the actual disconnector on your triggers that are working with the AZR M2-SSA. |
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Quoted: Sir I've read your previous posts and yes we know it works for you and yes I have a bunch of SSA-E, SSP, SSF too. We don't want to see the part number on the box; that doesn't mean anything as Geissele could've updated the disconnector on their SSA but still keeping the same part number. We want to see the actual disconnector on your triggers that are working with the AZR M2-SSA. Good. That was the part number in question (see pg.13). However, I'm not pulling my triggers today. Maybe the Geissele rep can chime in? Wouldn't Geissele know of any disconnector changes for their part number? It may be advisable to go to the source. Eta: I can ask later about this specifically in their industry forum. |
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For the people too lazy to look at pg.13: This is the new/current production Geissele SSA disconnector that's confirmed by member Apple3_14159 to be not working with the AZR M2-SSA; this photo was also taken by him  This is the old Geissele SSA disconnector (from 2009 time frame) that's confirmed to be working with the AZR M2-SSA by OP. The picture OP posted of his SSA that he used to design the M2-SSA around the disconnector looks exactly like this  For those who can't tell the differences, the old SSA disconnector is longer than the current production one; the front and tail also different on the 2 disconnectors. |
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Quoted: Sir I've read your previous posts and yes we know it works for you and yes I have a bunch of SSA-E, SSP, SSF too. We don't want to see the part number on the box; that doesn't mean anything as Geissele could've updated the disconnector on their SSA but still keeping the same part number. We want to see the actual disconnector on your triggers that are working with the AZR M2-SSA. pic of the actual **REDACTED** that was used to setup the AZR-15M2-**REDACTED** **REDACTED** ( ETA 07-22-25 **REDACTED** Means any trigger you may decide to try with our new AZR-15M2-R unit configuration. We will no longer name other triggers unless the manufacturer submits a letter to use asking us to name thier trigger(s) as we have received a Cease and Desist from one trigger manufacturer. Many brand triggers out on the market may fall within this **REDACTED** parameter which means triggers that have a disconnector that will push down into the trigger bar which is the condition which makes this a factory Pre Set 100% Drop In as stated herin. You can modify the top of a Mil-Spec Disconnector to use with this unit so the disconnector pushes down into the trigger bar if you want to set up and be able remove the unit and shoot normally whenever you like. )
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Quoted: For the people too lazy to look at pg.13: This is the new/current production Geissele SSA disconnector that's confirmed by member Apple3_14159 to be not working with the AZR M2-SSA; this photo was also taken by him https://i.imgur.com/5XzjdGW.jpeg This is the old Geissele SSA disconnector (from 2009 time frame) that's confirmed to be working with the AZR M2-SSA by OP. The picture OP posted of his SSA that he used to design the M2-SSA around the disconnector looks exactly like this https://i.imgur.com/jmAH8Z5.jpeg For those who can't tell the differences, the old SSA disconnector is longer than the current production one; the front and tail also different on the 2 disconnectors. Well, now, I'm going to check my invoices to find the last date I purchased an G SSA trigger. If the case is Geissele did change the disconnector, I would think that is simply an file adjustment on a AZR cam? Thank you, I did not see those pictures, I followed the part number. Eta: my last SSA purchase was 7/24. |
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Quoted: For the people too lazy to look at pg.13: This is the new/current production Geissele SSA disconnector that's confirmed by member Apple3_14159 to be not working with the AZR M2-SSA; this photo was also taken by him https://i.imgur.com/5XzjdGW.jpeg This is the old Geissele SSA disconnector (from 2009 time frame) that's confirmed to be working with the AZR M2-SSA by OP. The picture OP posted of his SSA that he used to design the M2-SSA around the disconnector looks exactly like this https://i.imgur.com/jmAH8Z5.jpeg For those who can't tell the differences, the old SSA disconnector is longer than the current production one; the front and tail also different on the 2 disconnectors. And funnily enough, it actually looks different than the one zulu just posted that he used in development. At least, the bit on the end looks different to me. Flat with one rounded corner versus pointed. Possibly three different versions of disconnector? eta: All my SSA-E disconnectors have that subtle notch on the underside. I don't have an SSA to compare it to for overall length tho. eta: That end doesn't look like it matters anyways. |