User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:38:19 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What does that stand for? @DevOps, OST - Old School Tag. Posting in a thread instead of subscribing to it with the menu. :) |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:39:08 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We can't have NFA items in NY, I have an AR pistol though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is why AR pistols are stupid. Just SBR them and you don't have worry about Trump and the ATF making them illegal. We can't have NFA items in NY, I have an AR pistol though. SBRs are legal where I live. Have fun crossing over state lines with one without a little ATF "permission slip". The potential for REAL legal hassle exists, so I just bring an AR pistol when traveling. Not to mention that anyone who thinks just because an item is on the NFA list and registered it is somehow protected from being "bought back" and / or banned is in fantasy land. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:39:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In our system of jurisprudence, we settle these debates in court, not by homicide. You know, civilization and shit..... Lol |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:40:02 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why AR pistols are stupid. Just SBR them and you don't have worry about Trump and the ATF making them illegal. I can't own a SBR in California but I can own a pistol braced AR. I know i know...leave CA...blah blah |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:41:07 PM EDT
[#5]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:41:11 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How would this apply to just theirs? Is everyone with a pistol brace now fucked? It's the ATF. They can literally make up any rule they want. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:41:17 PM EDT
[#7]
I bet SB Tactical is next
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:42:13 PM EDT
[#8]
So the letter linked above says basically “it’s has a short barrel and a pistol brace and is designed to fired from the shoulder.“ Nothing about LOP.
Sooooo, how does ATF determine its “designed to be fired from the shoulder”? Just cuz? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:42:39 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why AR pistols are stupid. Just SBR them and you don't have worry about Trump and the ATF making them illegal. Yeah, paying a tax is just a little infringement so it's ok. amiright.gif (sad statist noises) |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:42:50 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't own a SBR in California but I can own a pistol braced AR. I know i know...leave CA...blah blah Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is why AR pistols are stupid. Just SBR them and you don't have worry about Trump and the ATF making them illegal. I can't own a SBR in California but I can own a pistol braced AR. I know i know...leave CA...blah blah In several ban states braces are a workaround to the AWB. Using a brace allows you to build a firearm that's neither rifle or pistol so the AWB restrictions don't apply. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:44:01 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone else filling out a Form 1 right now? LOL, no. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:44:12 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So the letter linked above says basically “it’s has a short barrel and a pistol brace and is designed to fired from the shoulder.“ Nothing about LOP. Sooooo, how does ATF determine its “designed to be fired from the shoulder”? Just cuz? 800 Instagram posts showing people firing it from the shoulder? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:44:13 PM EDT
[#13]
I can't imagine there are many jobs in a country founded upon the principle of don't fuck with our weapons that are as humiliating as waking up every morning and putting on that Bureau of Absolute Tarded Fuckery badge.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:44:52 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't imagine there are many jobs in a country founded upon the principle of don't fuck with our weapons that are as humiliating as waking up every morning and putting on that Bureau of Absolute Tarded Fuckery badge. Every letter in their name is something that the federal government should have no hand in. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:44:59 PM EDT
[#15]
I want my fuckin cake back.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:45:17 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What does that stand for? Ostrich Sex Time. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:45:19 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In our system of jurisprudence, we settle these debates in court, not by homicide. You know, civilization and shit..... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And if an ATF agent or 10 are shot in the face, there will be weeping and wailing, here, for those brave LEOs. Mourning for their poor family. Calls for the shooter to be dismembered and burnt alive. In our system of jurisprudence, we settle these debates in court, not by homicide. You know, civilization and shit..... Tell that to the weavers and davidians amongst others. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:45:50 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 800 Instagram posts showing people firing it from the shoulder? So? I can fire a stock glock from my shoulder. Is it now a SBR? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:45:54 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So how is it different than any other AR pistol on the market? Exactly |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:46:50 PM EDT
[#20]
Have had folks hopping from one foot to another on this for how long now? Will the bump stock case shed new light on this. Would be nice to see republicans to nut the fuck up on this and grow a pair and finally put an end to the over reach.
 Allot of folks about to have a boating accident, I'll bet there are way more braces than bump stocks out there. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:46:51 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why AR pistols are stupid. Just SBR them and you don't have worry about Trump and the ATF making them illegal. How's that boot taste 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:47:00 PM EDT
[#22]
Who actually cares about their job so much that they get all pedantic about bullshit like this?
They need to hire more paycheck coasters at the ATF. You know, the types of dudes that hang out in the breakroom or pretend to do important shit until it’s time to go home? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:47:16 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @-Time- KB stepped down as CEO a while ago saying he's just not interested in running ops and expanding. He still owns the company but is "Chief of Innovation" and runs marketing as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: @-Time- Quoted: I also thought Kevin was the CEO? What happened there? KB stepped down as CEO a while ago saying he's just not interested in running ops and expanding. He still owns the company but is "Chief of Innovation" and runs marketing as well. Has nothing to do with him likely being ineligible to own firearms soon lol |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:47:16 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryI'm guessing Q did not predict this?  Too soon? (I actually have no idea of what Q or teh honey badger are) |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:47:17 PM EDT
[#25]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:47:55 PM EDT
[#26]
Why the hatred for disabled war veterans?...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:47:57 PM EDT
[#27]
FTATF
FTNFA FTFFA FTGCA FTFOPA |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:48:23 PM EDT
[#28]
Huh, maybe Gaetz really was on to something. F@ck their $200 tax and go piss off ATF man.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:48:24 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is just the tip of this massive iceberg. In the near future they will be coming hard and fast for the brace/pistol crowd with a vengeance. Buy, buy, buy. They can't deport us all. (or words to that effect) |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:48:28 PM EDT
[#30]
Can't ADA be cited to overrule them?
Must be somebody w/wilted arms or lost their arms that can make an ADA case. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:49:25 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How's that boot taste They must taste good given how many members have started licking them lately. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:50:26 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who actually cares about their job so much that they get all pedantic about bullshit like this? They need to hire more paycheck coasters at the ATF. You know, the types of dudes that hang out in the breakroom or pretend to do important shit until it’s time to go home? My guess would be people trying to tack shit to their resumes, or people trying for budget increases. "Look! we created a whole new class of criminals and regulated items, this will require a whole new department!" |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:50:36 PM EDT
[#33]
@AKSU
Quote HistoryNot yet. Key word in the letter is "May" Considering this letter was sent Aug 3rd, it's likely that samples were provided and found to be legal. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:50:38 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why AR pistols are stupid. Just SBR them and you don't have worry about Trump and the ATF making them illegal. First - They are not "stupid". Pistol laws are a lot different than rifle laws. Second - Laws vary by location. I some places you cannot have an AR-15 RIFLE, or any SBR. However, you can have an AR pistol. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:51:03 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why AR pistols are stupid. Just SBR them and you don't have worry about Trump and the ATF making them illegal. No. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:51:04 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tell that to the weavers and davidians amongst others. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And if an ATF agent or 10 are shot in the face, there will be weeping and wailing, here, for those brave LEOs. Mourning for their poor family. Calls for the shooter to be dismembered and burnt alive. In our system of jurisprudence, we settle these debates in court, not by homicide. You know, civilization and shit..... Tell that to the weavers and davidians amongst others. His name was Duncan Lemp... |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:51:22 PM EDT
[#37]
Looks like another boating accident may be in order soon.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:51:23 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @AKSU Not yet. Key word in the letter is "May" Considering this letter was sent Aug 3rd, it's likely that samples were provided and found to be legal. I bet ATF doesn't move anywhere near that fast. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:51:45 PM EDT
[#39]
How many autistic morons writing for opinion letters did it take?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:51:50 PM EDT
[#40]
@LVMIKE
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has nothing to do with him likely being ineligible to own firearms soon lol 100% bullshit. He owns the company, just like he owns firearms. He hired someone to run it so he can focus on other things. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:51:53 PM EDT
[#41]
Communists burning down cities and this is what our government is concerned about
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:52:03 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: More dogs to shoot and people to burn alive in their homes. More 12 year olds to shoot in the back, and mothers holding infants to snipe at.  Hey man- that barrel was a half an inch too short!! They had to get it on! |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:52:06 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The House? Is Trey Gowdy going to yap them to death?  I guess you missed the fact that Trey is no longer a congressmen. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:52:09 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tell that to the weavers and davidians amongst others. Isn’t that what you advocated, just in the other direction? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:52:25 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have heard rumblings of this as well. When I bought my first pistol two different FFL holders told me "Fixed brace good; telescoping brace bad". Even though both are/were legal(?) they were of the opinion that easily adjustable braces would one day be declared "stocks." Nit Picking... they will eventually ban our Fudguns. Donate to Trump today. Winred. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:52:59 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So the letter linked above says basically “it’s has a short barrel and a pistol brace and is designed to fired from the shoulder.“ Nothing about LOP. Sooooo, how does ATF determine its “designed to be fired from the shoulder”? Just cuz? One criteria seems to be LOP over 13”. No, that precise measurement isn’t actually in law or formal regulation. It has just been informally stated that LOP of <13” are “safer” or some such wording. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:53:01 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Personal thoughts: Fuck the ATF. Fuck .gov. I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:53:16 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This back and forth bullshit just makes me care less and less about gun laws |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:53:19 PM EDT
[#49]
Also....the part about contacting the WH seems very odd. Went to Q's website and I didn't see anything about a letter. Honey Badgers are still available on back-order.
Don't go shoot an ATF agent just yet. This smells like a hoax. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/6/2020 4:53:54 PM EDT
[#50]
We will see how this goes after the election is over.
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
