That actually surprises me!

The people who stole the elections, are now in power.

Including this AG who won with like a 200 ballot lead.

you sweet summer child.

For a group that claims to be so rational and objective conservatives seem to be easily bamboozled.

So many on this site enjoyed mocking Kari Lake who lost in the same questionable election that took out Abe.  Well elections have consequences.  Maybe AZ Republicans can unfuck themselves and start running fair elections.

Let's revisit this thread when Giuliani is pleading guilty and apologizing.

Is that the right think?

i'm not "skeptical".

I am "extremely doubtful"

You know how I know?

Look how they are acting.

Any of you silly folks who think the institutions will allow trump to win are delusional.

We have no blindfolds, señor, we are a poor country!

The crew who tried to submit "alternate electors" in Michigan are due back in court next week I think.  The debate is if they knew what they were attempting to do was illegal, or if they were just stupid.  Signs are pointing to stupidity.  Part of their defense is the communications they have from Trump's lawyer telling them that they could do it.  Certainly not a legal defense, but it might get them some leniency.

"Kari Lake, so irrelevant even AZ Democrats won't bother indicting her?"

do yourself a favor and never post that video again. It was proven that all of those allegations were so much made up BS that the Republicans who asked those people to speak Apologized to everybody.

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It is perfectly legal and constitutional to submit alternate electors.

IT IS IN THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION WORD FOR FUCKING WORD.

It should. I don't completely understand the fake elector thing, but it sounds like the kind of thing that should just be rejected not prosecuted. It is just a witch hunt for conservatives nothing more. We don't have a free country anymore.

Most states have laws dictating that the party whose candidate wins the state’s popular vote, gets to choose the state’s electors. Joe Biden won both Michigan and Arizona, so the democrats got to choose the state’s electors. But Republicans in those states, under direction and guidance from the Trump administration, submitted their own electors anyway. The cast electoral votes, the party certified them, and then submitted them to congress and the national archives as if they were the legitimate electors. Blatantly in violation of the law.

Lol you think they care about the constitution?

 No, it's not.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/electoral-college-rogues-trump-clinton-232195

They got indicted right? Right?

As an FYI:

1) Under AZ Rules of Crim Pro 15.1:
(a)Initial Disclosures in a Felony Case. Unless a local rule provides or the court orders otherwise:
(1) the State must make available to the defendant all reports containing information identified in (b)(3) and (b)(4) that the charging attorney possessed when the charge was filed; and
(2) the State must make these reports available by the preliminary hearing or, if no preliminary hearing is held, the arraignment.
(b)Supplemental Disclosure. Except as provided in Rule 39(b), the State must make available to the defendant the following material and information within the State's possession or control:
(1) the name and address of each person the State intends to call as a witness in the State's case-in-chief and any relevant written or recorded statement of the witness;
(2) any statement of the defendant and any co-defendant;
(3) all existing original and supplemental reports prepared by a law enforcement agency in connection with the charged offense;
(4) for each expert who has examined a defendant or any evidence in the case, or who the State intends to call at trial:
(A) the expert's name, address, and qualifications;
(B) any report prepared by the expert and the results of any completed physical examination, scientific test, experiment, or comparison conducted by the expert; and
(C) if the expert will testify at trial without preparing a written report, a summary of the general subject matter and opinions on which the expert is expected to testify;
(5) a list of all documents, photographs, other tangible objects, and electronically stored information the State intends to use at trial or that were obtained from or purportedly belong to the defendant;
(6) a list of the defendant's prior felony convictions the State intends to use at trial;
(7) a list of the defendant's other acts the State intends to use at trial;
(8) all existing material or information that tends to mitigate or negate the defendant's guilt or would tend to reduce the defendant's punishment;
(9) whether there has been any electronic surveillance of any conversations to which the defendant was a party, or of the defendant's business or residence;
(10) whether a search warrant has been executed in connection with the case; and
(11) whether the case involved an informant, and, if so, the informant's identity, subject to the restrictions under Rule 15.4(b)(2).
(c)Time for Supplemental Disclosures. Unless the court orders otherwise, the State must disclose the material and information listed in (b) no later than:
(1) in the superior court, 30 days after arraignment.
(2) in a limited jurisdiction court, at the first pretrial conference.

So once the defendants are arraigned, they will have a pretty good idea of what evidence the AG believes they have.  And, I'm sure, we'll know soon after

2) In Arizona, speedy trial rights for someone who was never booked is 270 days.  Of course that can be extended by agreement of the parties or court order.

I mean yeah she's a retard and I tried explaining to the party how their strategy to badger everyone into voting in person election day only was a disaster in the making, but they didn't want to listen.

This shit is serious and they need to stop treating it like it's a fun game with nothing at stake instead of for all the marbles. "Elections have consequences" well no shit they do, maybe it's time to quick jerking off to grift bait and put in the work.

I know this is hard, but those people were actual electors.

Man, it's like some of you guys never had civics class in school.

We should go back to the losing candidate having to be the Vice President.  Can you imagine what a hoot that would be now?  The 12th Amendment fucked up on that one.

So Polly Baca an elector from Colorado wasn’t an elector?

Make them both sit in the Oval Office facing each other too

What a surprise!  The charges have nothing to do with skepticism and everything to do with fraud, forgery, and conspiracy to commit those crimes!

"Faithless" electors are real electors and being "faithless" is within the Constitutional power of an elector.

These guys are accused of impersonating electors and forging vote certificates and conspiracy.

Please, please, please explain this claim!  I have got to hear this one!

Trump would have convinced Biden to resign in exchange for two cookies and a ten year old within the first hour.

Do you understand the difference between a faithless elector and a fraudulent one?

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Not even going to waste my time reading it.  All these comie POS’s moving here has totally screwed this state to hell. Bet not a single one was born or raised here as far as AG or her supporters.  They suck .

You serious Clark??

Lets do talk about blantly violating the law, and Soros DA's and Judges who find technical caveats or just through blatant subversion throw out any legitimate attempts to stop the coup from happening.

Your version IS A VERSION, just not a realistic view.  I know you will side with the leftists judges and DA's put into place by Soros and Obammy.  This was systematic though.  It was/is real.  And those who deny haven't remotely studied the problem.  

Oh and YOU HAVE NO STANDING, how do you like them apples?

I was confused. Read a bit more and I’m good. F’em imo but still doesn’t change that our government is banana republic corrupt and I inherently am skeptical about this case because of their past actions.

Do you understand proof TIME AND TIME AGAIN, only to be fraudulently thrown out.  All of election fraud.

It really happened dude.  They just had more people in charge in key places with the lawfare.  

If you even remotely deny it wasnt real, then you will have shown you haven't studied that election for even a few seconds.

It seems like that would be easy enough just to ignore. I don't get this forgery part. They didn't forge someone else's name did they ? They claimed to be an elector, if it was obvious they weren't then just ignore it. It seems the courts are making it bigger then it was.

Would have never happened if Trump won and democrats summited fake electors.

Fascists.

All I’m doing is telling you what the law is, and what the state GOPs did. Don’t shoot the messenger.

What good is fucking law when the election was a fraud?  FUCK IT MAN.  They wanted it this way.  Give it to them.

Those twats don't even hide their distain for us anymore. Give them a keyboard and a few vodka and sodas and they will argue all night how right they are. Sad just sad they hate us.

Multiple Democrat representatives voted against confirming the last 4 Republican presidents, yet….muh insurrection!

Same here. Pick me! Pick me!

No worries. Faithless electors are an actual thing. Nothing makes a legitimate elector beholden to a certain candidate. But that is completely different than fake electors submitting electoral college votes as if they were legitimate electors.

Now do Stacey Abrams and Hildebeast. I seem to recall them denying election results

I had something else in mind, but whatever.