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Posted: 12/27/2020 11:22:33 PM EST
An active member of the US Army has been charged with murder after three men were shot dead and three more people were injured in a 'random attack' at bowling alley in Illinois.

Green Beret Duke Webb, 37, from Florida, was on Sunday charged with three counts of murder and three counts of attempted murder.

The shooting happened just before 7pm on Saturday at Don Carter Lanes in the city of Rockford about 90 minutes northwest of Chicago.

Three men, aged 73, 65 and 69, were killed. They have not been named.

A 14-year-old boy was shot in the face; his condition is described as stable. A 16-year-old girl was shot in the shoulder and released from hospital.  

The sixth victim, a 62-year-old man, remains in a critical condition after he was shot multiple times, The Chicago Tribune reports.

It is not known why Webb was in Rockford and Police Chief Dan O'Shea said Sunday: 'We believe this was a completely random act, and there is no prior meeting or any kind of relationship between the suspect and any of the victims in this case.'

According to a statement from the Army Webb is assigned to 3rd Battalion, 7th Special Forces Group (Airborne), based at Eglin Air Force Base, Florida.

He was on leave at the time of the shooting.

Police say around 6.55pm on Saturday, they received a call that someone had opened fire in an outdoor bar area of the bowling alley according to a police press conference given in the hours after the shooting.

When police arrived, they found multiple victims and the person of interest. Two handguns were also found at the scene.  

The bowling alley was closed due to COVID-19 restrictions. The bar, Shooters Bar & Grill, has remained open for outside drinking and takeout. Around 20 to 25 people had been at the establishment when the shooting broke out Saturday.

O'Shea said: 'The two teenage victims were picking up food. It's a carryout establishment as well. They were not in the bar area.'

Mayor Tom McNamara said in a statement he was 'angered and saddened'.

He added: 'My thoughts are with the families of those who lost loved ones. I'm also thinking of those who were injured and my hopes are with them for a quick and full recovery.'

Webb is being held without bond. He will make his first appearance in court Monday.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9090805/Active-Army-soldier-charged-murder-Illinois-bowling-alley-shooting.html


No motive listed, pretty weird situation but it s still 2020.

Thanks OverBored.   https://www.wifr.com/2020/12/28/alleged-don-carter-lanes-shooter-denied-bail/?fbclid=IwAR2v0cNA_6xa4ze-K713evw3fP_gDgFlHiLZKCpkG_C8r6hLSNRaEKPnfQU

On Dec. 26, at 6:55 p.m., officers were called to a report of an active shooter at Don Carter Lanes at 4007 E. State St. When police arrived, multiple people had been shot, according to the criminal complaint.

A witness on the first floor told police he heard multiple gunshots and saw Webb with a gun, according to the criminal complaint. That witness identified Webb to police.


A 14-year-old girl was sitting at a table on the first floor with three other teenagers when Webb began shooting at her table, according to the criminal complaint. The girl suffered a gunshot wound through her shoulder. She survived her injury.


[color=#000000]A 14-year-old boy was also shot in the face. He is alive but is hospitalized in critical condition.[/color]


[color=#000000]Thomas Furseth, 65, was on the first floor when Webb began shooting. Furseth began running toward the stairs when Webb shot him in the torso, according to the criminal complaint. He was able to run up the stairs before he collapsed. He was dead at the scene when police arrived.[/color]


[color=#000000]Webb then went upstairs to the second floor, where approximately 20-25 people were in a bar. Webb fired several shots at the people in the bar. He shot 73-year-old Dennis Steinhoff in the torso, according to the criminal complaint. His body was recovered on the balcony just outside the bar.[/color]


[color=#000000]Jerome Woodfork, 69, was on the second floor when Webb began shooting, according to the criminal complaint. His body was found in the parking lot below the balcony. A witness saw him fall to the ground from that balcony. He was dead when officers arrived.[/color]


[color=#000000]A 62-year-old man was in the bar on the second floor. Webb shot him in the left thigh, back, neck, groin and buttocks, according to the criminal complaint. He is alive but is in critical condition.[/color]



Police officers found Webb inside the building and took him into custody. The entire incident was captured on video surveillance, according to the criminal complaint.


Webb admitted to the shootings and directed officers to the location of the firearms that he used. A glock .40 and glock .380 were recovered behind a bag that belonged to Webb, according to the criminal complaint.


Multiple .40 caliber and .380 caliber shell casings were found at the scene. Webb's Monday court appearance was virtual. His arraignment is scheduled for Feb. 16.


Webb joined the Army in July 2008 and is currently serving as a Special Forces Assistance Operations and Intelligence Sergeant. He previously was a Special Forces Engineer Sergeant and Parachute Rigger. Webb deployed to Afghanistan from Aug. 2009 to Dec. 2009, Oct. 2013 to April 2014, Oct. 2014 to April 2015, and Jan. 2020 to July 2020, according to U.S. Army Public Affairs.




Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:26:09 PM EST
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Makes no sense. Sad and unfortunate.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:28:18 PM EST
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That sounds weird as fuck.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:29:25 PM EST
[#3]
This is nuts.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:30:16 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:30:19 PM EST
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Active Green Beret on leave Shoots 6 people, killing 3.

What the fuck?
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:30:42 PM EST
[#6]
Mask incident ?
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:31:24 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:31:31 PM EST
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Whatever it was, it wasn’t random.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:32:03 PM EST
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I've told friends of mine a hundred times.  Things like this can happen anywhere you go.   Always carry.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:32:08 PM EST
[#10]
WTF
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:32:23 PM EST
[#11]
Shooting up a buncha old folks and kids?  WTF?  Cat pissed in his boots or something?
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:32:36 PM EST
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“Shooter’s Bar and Grill”
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:32:47 PM EST
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I dont think I'm trying to get into a gunfight with a Green Beret
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:32:59 PM EST
[#14]
Almost sounds like how Barry Sadler went out.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:33:12 PM EST
[#15]
Certainly strange. I would have imagined that if an active duty Green Beret just snapped, and decided to kill innocent people, the body count would be much higher than 3 old timers and a couple wounded kids.

I would have guessed something closer to a Vegas2.0.

There has to be more to the story.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:34:23 PM EST
[#16]
Lots of fucky shit happening the past few days....
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:34:29 PM EST
[#17]
Hmmm.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:34:32 PM EST
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I dont think I'm trying to get into a gunfight with a Green Beret

The gun is for yourself
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:34:53 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:35:34 PM EST
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Heard he's an Intel weenie here.
Rather, he was.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:36:12 PM EST
[#21]
Gotta be way more to it than just a random shooting.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:36:23 PM EST
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Let us not forget and lose sight of the real monsters- the tiktard nurses and their dancing.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:36:37 PM EST
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Thought I was the first to notice this.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:36:44 PM EST
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Green Beret goes on leave to kill old fucks and kids at a bowling alley/restuarant... I think we're missing a few pieces to this puzzle.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:36:59 PM EST
[#25]
Lets hear all the facts but, if true it's really messed up a Green Beret shooting civilians.   This doesn't not reflect against all Green Berets they would not do this.  He could be a very troubled person.  I'm very sorry for the people who died and hope the injured recover soon.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:37:04 PM EST
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If someone starts shooting random people around me I'm shooting back regardless of what color their hat is. Nobody is bulletproof.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:39:18 PM EST
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Might want to do some more research there, hero.

Not defending him but he was more than an "intel weenie".
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:39:37 PM EST
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I'm sure the gov will be transparent and forthcoming with their investigation and not suppress any information.

Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:40:22 PM EST
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This isn't Nam, we have rules.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:40:22 PM EST
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Yup
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:40:30 PM EST
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The victims where mostly elderly, really strange
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:40:41 PM EST
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I'm going with not random.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:41:07 PM EST
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I sure can't imagine any facts changing anything. I mean,.he shot old people and kids. Fun fact, I've been to that bar and bowling alley many times.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:41:13 PM EST
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I dont think I'm trying to get into a gunfight with a Green Beret

If you are a lifelong shooter and using handguns in a bar
Why wouldn’t you take him ?
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:41:15 PM EST
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Might want to do some more research there, hero.

Not defending him but he was more than an "intel weenie".
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Might want to do some more research there, hero.

Not defending him but he was more than an "intel weenie".


What info do you have?  He's not an intelligence assistant?
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:41:20 PM EST
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Well so far 3/6 unarmed survived. I'm thinking my odds multiply if I can shoot back
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:41:27 PM EST
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Like teachers having a problem fucking young boys, SOCOM has a drug and murder problem based on the threads here.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:43:11 PM EST
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What info do you have?  He's not an intelligence assistant?
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Might want to do some more research there, hero.

Not defending him but he was more than an "intel weenie".


What info do you have?  He's not an intelligence assistant?

Look up what an 18F is.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:45:41 PM EST
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Wow! RIP to the victims and praying for full recoveries to those who were injured.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:46:47 PM EST
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If he wants to be in the running for Attorney General, he’ll need to kill several orders of magnitude more people.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:47:36 PM EST
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Wish I could say I was surprised.
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Why so coy about it?
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Might want to do some more research there, hero.

Not defending him but he was more than an "intel weenie".


What info do you have?  He's not an intelligence assistant?

Look up what an 18F is.


The Special Forces Assistant Operations and Intelligence Sergeant employs conventional and unconventional warfare tactics and techniques in intelligence collection and processing. Trains and maintains proficiency in all major duties. Provides tactical and technical guidance to the Detachment Commander, indigenous and allied personnel. Plans, organizes, trains, advises, assists and supervises indigenous and allied personnel on collection and processing of intelligence information. Performs intelligence and operational duties when task organized in preparation (isolation) for special missions and during operations. Writes operation plans and combat orders, and supporting annexes. Conducts briefings, briefba-cks and debriefings. Establishes intelligence nets, conducts agent handling and prepares agent reports within the operational area. Capable of establishing identify through fingerprinting. Processes prisoners of war, writes and establishes security plan and performs decurity duties. Maintains all classified documents in the operational area and establishes destruction and evacuation plans. Provides area specialist assistance to the detachment, SF, U.S. Army, system services and other agencies.


Duties:

Employs conventional and unconventional warfare tactics and techniques in intelligence collection and processing.


Establishing and maintaining tactical and operational communications and communications equipment


Provides tactical and technical guidance to the Detachment Commander, indigenous and allied personnel.


Plans, organizes, trains, advises, assists and supervises indigenous and allied personnel on collection and processing of intelligence information.


Performs intelligence and operational duties when task organized in preparation (isolation) for special missions and during operations.


Writes operation plans and combat orders, and supporting annexes.


Establishes intelligence nets, conducts agent handling and prepares agent reports within the operational area.


Capable of establishing identify through fingerprinting.


Performs intelligence and operational duties when task organized in preparation (isolation) for special missions and during operations.


Processes prisoners of war, writes and establishes security plan and performs decurity duties.


Maintains all classified documents in the operational area and establishes destruction and evacuation plans.


Provides area specialist assistance to the detachment, SF, U.S. Army, system services and other agencies.



Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:51:00 PM EST
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I am a lifelong shooter, but hes older than me.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:51:10 PM EST
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18F, still rocks a log tab

Now I am an intel weenie and I take offense to that, can i please speak to your manager?
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:51:42 PM EST
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Wasn't very effective.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:52:51 PM EST
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Why so coy about it?
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Why so coy about it?

Not being coy, y'all got the internet too.

Do you want me to read you a story?

Here, for the moderately lazy (most of the modern population).

Special Forces Assistant Ops & Intelligence Sgt. MOS 18F

MOS 18F—Special Forces Assistant Operations and Intelligence Sergeant
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:53:18 PM EST
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The kid that was shot in the face is black and at least one of the dead is black. I read an article on Heavy that mentioned two guns.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:53:51 PM EST
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I wonder what led to the shootings. Of course there's no excuse to shoot at people who pose no grave bodily harm but I don't believe that he just decided to shoot at them for no reason.
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