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Posted: 10/23/2023 9:29:39 AM EST
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The solar wind is a real bitch. Good luck with keeping your new atmosphere!
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Posted: 10/23/2023 9:33:13 AM EST
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FPNI
I thought the reason Mars lacked atmosphere & surface water was the lack of a magnetic core to divert the solar wind….. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 9:36:54 AM EST
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When aliens in the movies send microbes and fungi to terraform earth we regard that as the worst thing imaginable and these guys just casually discuss it as NBD.
Mars Lives Matter. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 9:37:22 AM EST
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I saw this movie I think.
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Posted: 10/23/2023 9:38:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FPNI I thought the reason Mars lacked atmosphere & surface water was the lack of a magnetic core to divert the solar wind….. Exactly. No magnetosphere is something they cannot change and will always make terraforming Mars pointless. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 9:39:46 AM EST
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Dead planet will always be dead planet.
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Posted: 10/23/2023 9:39:53 AM EST
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So the answer to man made climate change is to change the climate on another planet?
Interesting. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 9:43:12 AM EST
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If I repaint my car with “green living paint” will I be allowed to continue burning fossil fuels? Or do I still have to cut my dick off and drive an ev to offset the climate racism of previous generations?
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Posted: 10/23/2023 9:58:22 AM EST
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First post nails it unless they plan on bringing a butt load of magnets too.
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Posted: 10/23/2023 9:58:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw this movie I think. The documentary with Arnold? |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 9:59:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So the answer to man made climate change is to change the climate on another planet? Interesting. What could go wrong? |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:02:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When aliens in the movies send microbes and fungi to terraform earth we regard that as the worst thing imaginable and these guys just casually discuss it as NBD. Mars Lives Matter. Maybe we are the bacteria. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:02:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw this movie I think. Get your ass to Mars! |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:02:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I repaint my car with “green living paint” will I be allowed to continue burning fossil fuels? Or do I still have to cut my dick off and drive an ev to offset the climate racism of previous generations? I wouldn’t alter any plans you currently have. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:09:35 AM EST
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:20:01 AM EST
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So they can make breathable air on Mars but your lungs will probably freeze when you inhale since it’s so cold.
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:28:06 AM EST
[#17]
-225 F every night
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:30:31 AM EST
[#18]
That’s completely retarded. That’s like giving someone an eye dropper and a cup of water and telling them they can use it to make the Sahara desert arable again.
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:32:38 AM EST
[#19]
You still have 40-50 times the radiation as earth after your air floats away
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:35:55 AM EST
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Posted: 10/23/2023 10:37:28 AM EST
[#21]
As is the low gravity.
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Posted: 10/23/2023 11:34:49 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FPNI I thought the reason Mars lacked atmosphere & surface water was the lack of a magnetic core to divert the solar wind….. NASA has been studying a magnetic shield satellite to compensate. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 11:37:02 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The solar wind is a real bitch. Good luck with keeping your new atmosphere! They'll build really big magnets, and it will be ok. 
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Posted: 10/23/2023 11:37:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So the answer to man made climate change is to change the climate on another planet? Interesting. It's like socialism - they'll get it right, this time for sure! |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 11:41:12 AM EST
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Just need to drill into the core and set off a number of nuclear warheads to get the ol magnetic field spinning again.
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Posted: 10/23/2023 11:41:37 AM EST
[#26]
Quaaaaaaaaid
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Posted: 10/23/2023 11:53:05 AM EST
[#27]
“See you at the partie RichTERRRR!!!!”
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Posted: 10/23/2023 11:56:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. No magnetosphere is something they cannot change and will always make terraforming Mars pointless. I always get a kick out of the window lickers who think Mars can be terraformed. Kinda like all the people who think FTL speeds/warp drive can ever happen. There is make believe fantasy, and then there is actual science. Most dipshits live in fantasy land. -ZA |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 11:59:36 AM EST
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:02:49 PM EST
[#30]
I think it is dumb because if humanity lives on Mars, then we're gonna be bombarded with news articles about "systemic oppression" and a bunch of other SJW shit, except now it's on Mars!!! And they'll expect everyone to care.
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:03:07 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quaaaaaaaaid |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:04:39 PM EST
[#32]
How’s it do with radiation?
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:05:49 PM EST
[#33]
 Los Angeles, November 2019 |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:13:55 PM EST
[#34]
Without adding mass to the atmosphere, calling it "breathable" is a stretch, beyond a stretch.
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:23:16 PM EST
[#35]
This is now a Deja Thoris thread (ok John Carter for some)
 Attached File John Carter EPIC Battle scene (HD) |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:23:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dead planet will always be dead planet. This. No magnetosphere to protect the existing surface gasses and a heatwave on the equator there broils the dirt at 40°F. Sure, you could import survival facilities to temporarily support humans for a while, but that will be very expensive, retroactive funeral arrangements. I think Musk knows all that. He's a brilliant guy. I'm starting to think his whole push to Mars is a scam. His real desire is to eventually be the only human buried on Mars. That would definitely be the ultimate in legacy material. China's first emperor was buried with hundreds of clay soldiers, Julius Caesar was cremated at his temple in Rome, Attila the Hun was buried under a diverted river for that purpose and great pharoahs slept under pyramids, but no other earthings permanantly sleep on another world. I'd do it if i had Musk's FU money. Folks would talk about that for thousands of years. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:24:26 PM EST
[#37]
Fpni
Mars will never have true surface water or Atmo. With no magnetic field it all gets blown away in the “wind”. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:25:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dead planet will always be dead planet. Man will never be able to fly. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:32:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe we are the bacteria. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When aliens in the movies send microbes and fungi to terraform earth we regard that as the worst thing imaginable and these guys just casually discuss it as NBD. Mars Lives Matter. Maybe we are the bacteria. Brilliant! Seed a planet with sentient engineered beings that can breathe the atmosphere, then give them technology that benefits them but slowly transforms the place.
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:41:10 PM EST
[#40]
Doesn’t matter.
Those people living in West Mars will never be able to coexist with those people living in East Mars. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:43:31 PM EST
[#41]
The atmosphere is so thin that even if it was pure O2 you'd still probably die.
I did a Google search on the altitude equivalence here on earth and it was something like 28km high. If true holy shit... 
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:43:57 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FPNI I thought the reason Mars lacked atmosphere & surface water was the lack of a magnetic core to divert the solar wind….. No. Breathable atmosphere is strictly prohibited by the Martian homeowner's association rules. They don't want any dirty Venusians moving in. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:46:24 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw this movie I think. I remember something really similar.... |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:47:37 PM EST
[#44]
It’s a shake and bake colony
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:47:39 PM EST
[#45]
The problem is that Mars has little to no magnetosphere. Any gasses lighter than CO2 will simply be blown away into space by solar wind.
Mars DID have an atmosphere, and water. But it's all in deep space now. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:49:48 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's like socialism - they'll get it right, this time for sure! We should send the squad and their followers first first...trusting the "science" and getting the socialist utopia at the same time...win win |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 12:52:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The atmosphere is so thin that even if it was pure O2 you'd still probably die. I did a Google search on the altitude equivalence here on earth and it was something like 28km high. If true holy shit... Yeah, breathing pure oxygen on Mars would be like breathing 1/15th the amount of oxygen you get at the top of Everest. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 1:07:37 PM EST
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Throw some asteroids/comets at Mars.
Mass drive some calcium carbonate from Venus too. Don’t miss and hit Earth. Restart the core and thicken the atmosphere. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 1:11:45 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. No magnetosphere is something they cannot change and will always make terraforming Mars pointless. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: FPNI I thought the reason Mars lacked atmosphere & surface water was the lack of a magnetic core to divert the solar wind….. Exactly. No magnetosphere is something they cannot change and will always make terraforming Mars pointless. Not true. Current technology could, in theory, build a superconducting ring around Mars that would be able to generate enough of a magnetic field to stop ablative loss from the solar wind. The largest hurdles are: 1. No one has built a superconductor 1000's of km's long and measured the losses(which should be zero) 2. Getting enough Bismuth/Yttrium and a few other minerals to Mars, depending on the type of SC used. 3. It's a planet sized project. A sufficiently large magnetic field isn't the biggest issue with terraforming Mars. Replenishing the atmosphere on any sort of human timescale is. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 1:18:59 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The problem is that Mars has little to no magnetosphere. Any gasses lighter than CO2 will simply be blown away into space by solar wind. Mars DID have an atmosphere, and water. But it's all in deep space now. You didn't even read one of the responses did you? |
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