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Link Posted: 11/20/2017 8:37:51 AM EST
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Many Christian conservatives are backing Alabama's Roy Moore

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) - Alabama's Christian conservatives see Roy Moore as their champion. He has battled federal judges and castigated liberals, big government, gun control, Muslims, homosexuality and anything else that doesn't fit the evangelical mold.

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In his role as an outsider and fighter, Moore is a bit like George C. Wallace, the one-time segregationist who served four terms as Alabama's governor.

But the closest any of Alabama's previous populist politicians might have come to the current allegations against Moore might have been those made against Gov. Jim Folsom in the 40s, said retired University of Alabama historian William H. Stewart. "Kissing Jim" was alleged to have had a son out of wedlock and was known for kissing women on the campaign trail.

"But we haven't had any instances of a candidate dating or making sexual overtures to a girl as young as 14," said Stewart.

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AP video journalist Johnny Clark contributed to this report from Jackson, Alabama.

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Wow, compared to George Wallace AND Jim Folsom in the same article! Impressive!
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 8:54:43 AM EST
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Here we are with 22 days to go till election day.

Funding for Moore has pretty much dried up. They say Jones is raking in $250K per day.

The MSM/Liberals/ RINOs/GOPe/AL.com did a full on blitzkrieg with the initial allegations.

When that didn't work they started dropping the rumor mill attacks. Then came the annual claim.

Then the butt grabber who from my understanding has changed her story something like three times now.

Along comes all the democrat "preachers" they could find to go after him.

The next three weeks are going to be interesting.
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Racist, homophobe and sexual harasser on repeat for the next three weeks. I hope Alabama gives them the double barrel middle finger salute.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 9:23:22 AM EST
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Here's this morning's interview with Corfman.  She's the only person asserting that she was under the age of consent.  
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/roy-moore-accuser-leigh-corfman-i-didn-t-deserve-be-n822416
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 9:33:48 AM EST
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And she's the same one who lied about her age to Moore, right?

This is Fake News.
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Here's this morning's interview with Corfman.  She's the only person asserting that she was under the age of consent.  
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/roy-moore-accuser-leigh-corfman-i-didn-t-deserve-be-n822416
And she's the same one who lied about her age to Moore, right?

This is Fake News.
The fact that they had to go back 40 years to find any "dirt" on Moore tells me it's fake news.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 9:48:05 AM EST
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Oh facebook....

The grandstanding is rich with this one...

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"I might get unfriended on Facebook; I guess I'll change my vote."

Said no one ever.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 9:51:04 AM EST
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Leigh Corfman says she was "absolutely not" paid to speak publicly now about her sexual encounter with Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore when she was 14.

Corfman was the first woman to publicly accuse Moore of sexual misconduct since his GOP nomination to Alabama's U.S. Senate seat. Moore has denied the allegations.

Corfman tells NBC's "Today Show" Monday that she decided against going public previously because she was afraid that her children would be shunned in Alabama, where Moore became a state judge.

Corfman says she agreed to share details only after The Washington Post sought her out and gave her assurances she wasn't the only one accusing Moore of misconduct. She tells NBC, "my bank account has not flourished. If anything it's gone down because I'm not working."

http://www.wbrc.com/story/36884982/the-latest-moore-accuser-says-she-wasnt-paid-to-tell-story

Interesting. So they enticed her to make allegations against Moore by claiming others were doing the same.

Take a weak person, elevate them, make them feel good about themselves despite a lifetime of failures, stroke their ego to make them the star of the story.

I wonder what tales the WashPo told her to upstage the other players in this.
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She was peer pressured to make these allegations. If it weren't for the other women the WaPo sought after and enticed then Corfman wouldn't have made the allegation.

The real abusers in this situation is the washington post for dragging these women in front of the nation to share their story. If I were these women and I didn't get paid to do this, I would feel used.
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The fact that they had to go back 40 years to find any "dirt" on Moore tells me it's fake news.  
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Here's this morning's interview with Corfman.  She's the only person asserting that she was under the age of consent.  
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/roy-moore-accuser-leigh-corfman-i-didn-t-deserve-be-n822416
And she's the same one who lied about her age to Moore, right?

This is Fake News.
The fact that they had to go back 40 years to find any "dirt" on Moore tells me it's fake news.  
Yep. An infamous Judge that has been in the public eye for over 40 years has never been accused of harassing or abusing young women until he makes a run for the senate. Very fake news.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 10:00:15 AM EST
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I know in GD and Alabama everyone thinks "this is a frame up" but I'm pretty confident Moore was a Thirtysomething creeper.

Okay so why did the Post, which seems to have been behind getting this story going, seems like they found the women, not vice versa, pick now to expose Moore? If it was a concern over the mistreatment of women why didn't they set him on fire during the primary or years before? Because the motivation is "let's stop the GOP" not "let's expose a creeper." They didn't start this well after the primary was over with, but close enough to affect the election, coincidentally. This is an attempt to flip congress, either by stopping Moore, or giving Democrats something to beat  up the GOP with in the mid terms. The paper knows if they had exposed this earlier "the GOPe" would have sought out ways to stop Moore.
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I'm not denying he was a thirtysomething creeper cradlerobber but the harassment and abuse charges are what I am disputing.

Of course WaPo wanted to help the Dems and not the GOPe.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 10:05:38 AM EST
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The news media flew these two woman to NYC, and put them up in a fancy hotel for the weekend.  
On Monday mornings they did their makeup, and put them on TV to receive their 15 minutes of fame.  Now they'll go back home to their trailer parks.

Link Posted: 11/20/2017 10:06:03 AM EST
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And she's the same one who lied about her age to Moore, right?

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Here's this morning's interview with Corfman.  She's the only person asserting that she was under the age of consent.  
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/roy-moore-accuser-leigh-corfman-i-didn-t-deserve-be-n822416
And she's the same one who lied about her age to Moore, right?

This is Fake News.
The fact that they had to go back 40 years to find any "dirt" on Moore tells me it's fake news.

Yep. An infamous Judge that has been in the public eye for over 40 years has never been accused of harassing or abusing young women until he makes a run for the senate. Very fake news.

After 40 years, no one will ever know what really happened.  
It's possible that Corfman may not even know what happened.  Perhaps she has the guys mixed up.  Maybe it was some other attorney that took her home.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 11:30:43 AM EST
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FAUX NEWS had little Marco on this morning and he was all about believing the rumors and Moore needed to go away.  FNC is the same as CNN, MSNBC, and the others.  Guilty until proven innocent and even then your still guilty.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 11:46:08 AM EST
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Link Posted: 11/20/2017 11:55:34 AM EST
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I really hope that Moore wins.

The amount of money that Democraps are blowing down there is absolutely staggering. Meanwhile the GOP-E has left Moore high and dry.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 12:11:50 PM EST
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Not his stance on any single issue critical to the state and Alabamians, like jobs, education or health care.

Not whether he's the best candidate to represent Alabamians on the national stage.

Nope, just because he's a Republican. Period.
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Well, the Dems didn't give a shit about anything Ted Kennedy did, from murder to sexual assault, because he was a reliable Dem.

So I don't care what any candidate has done so long as they vote the way I want.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 12:23:29 PM EST
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I know in GD and Alabama everyone thinks "this is a frame up" but I'm pretty confident Moore was a Thirtysomething creeper.

Okay so why did the Post, which seems to have been behind getting this story going, seems like they found the women, not vice versa, pick now to expose Moore? If it was a concern over the mistreatment of women why didn't they set him on fire during the primary or years before? Because the motivation is "let's stop the GOP" not "let's expose a creeper." They didn't start this well after the primary was over with, but close enough to affect the election, coincidentally. This is an attempt to flip congress, either by stopping Moore, or giving Democrats something to beat  up the GOP with in the mid terms. The paper knows if they had exposed this earlier "the GOPe" would have sought out ways to stop Moore.
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The story dropped the day after it was impossible to remove him from the ballot.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 1:40:07 PM EST
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Can anyone give me any perspective on who owns AL.COM?
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 1:55:34 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/20/2017 2:01:31 PM EST
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I know in GD and Alabama everyone thinks "this is a frame up" but I'm pretty confident Moore was a Thirtysomething creeper.

Okay so why did the Post, which seems to have been behind getting this story going, seems like they found the women, not vice versa, pick now to expose Moore? If it was a concern over the mistreatment of women why didn't they set him on fire during the primary or years before? Because the motivation is "let's stop the GOP" not "let's expose a creeper." They didn't start this well after the primary was over with, but close enough to affect the election, coincidentally. This is an attempt to flip congress, either by stopping Moore, or giving Democrats something to beat  up the GOP with in the mid terms. The paper knows if they had exposed this earlier "the GOPe" would have sought out ways to stop Moore.
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Why is he a creeper?  Forty years ago youger women might be all thats available.  Think about it, the divorce rate was lower, he spent his 20s in the military and law s hool.  By the time he was ready to start a family the best women that were not already married would have been the young ones.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 2:03:48 PM EST
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The Birmingham News is the principal newspaper for Birmingham, Alabama, United States, and the largest newspaper in Alabama.[1] The paper is owned by Advance Publications, and was a daily newspaper from its founding through September 30, 2012. The next day, the News and its two sister Alabama newspapers, the Press-Register in Mobile and The Huntsville Times, moved to a thrice-weekly print-edition publication schedule (Sundays, Wednesdays and Fridays). The Times-Picayune of New Orleans, also an Advance newspaper, also went to thrice-weekly on the same day.

Print-edition cutbacks[edit]
On May 24, 2012, Advance Publications announced that its three Alabama newspapers would do away with print editions on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. The move was a result of the continuing decline in advertising revenue and circulation for its traditional print products. The move places increased emphasis on their website, al.com, and reorganizes the Alabama properties into two companies: Alabama Media Group, the editorial and advertising side; and Advance Central Services Alabama, which handles production, distribution and back-office services.[4]

The changes took effect on October 1, 2012, making Birmingham the second-largest city in the United States to not be served by a daily newspaper; New Orleans became the largest that same day. New Orleans lost that dubious distinction when Baton Rouge's daily newspaper, The Advocate, began publication of a daily edition in New Orleans; further, on June 24, 2013, The Times-Picayune resumed daily publication with a tabloid edition called "TP Street" sold only through newsstands and retailers.[5] With those two moves, Birmingham became the largest city in the country without its own daily newspaper.

Editorial stance[edit]
According to the paper, when offering a political endorsement, it generally skews toward the Republican Party with a few exceptions.[6][dead link] The paper endorsed Democrat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 United States presidential election,[7] and on November 18, 2017, it endorsed Democrat Doug Jones in the 2017 U.S. Senate special election in Alabama.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birmingham_News

Advance Publications Inc. is an American media company owned by the descendants of S.I. Newhouse Sr., Donald Newhouse and S.I. Newhouse, Jr. It is named after the Staten Island Advance, the first newspaper owned by the Newhouse family, in which Sam Newhouse bought a controlling interest in 1922. The company is nominally headquartered in the Advance offices in Staten Island's Grasmere neighborhood, though Advance has never had an official headquarters.[2]

As of October 2014, it was ranked as the 44th largest privately held company in the United States according to Forbes.[3] Crain's ranked Advance Publications the 4th largest private company in the New York area in 2012. In addition to holding publishing and communication assets, Advance serves as the holding company for the family's 31% stake in cable entertainment company Discovery Communications.[4] Advance also owns a 13% stake in Charter Communications, which it received when Bright House Networks merged with Charter.[5][6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Publications

No one in the State of Alabama would say AL.com is anything but a liberal slanted publication despite that claim in wiki.
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Can anyone give me any perspective on who owns AL.COM?
The Birmingham News is the principal newspaper for Birmingham, Alabama, United States, and the largest newspaper in Alabama.[1] The paper is owned by Advance Publications, and was a daily newspaper from its founding through September 30, 2012. The next day, the News and its two sister Alabama newspapers, the Press-Register in Mobile and The Huntsville Times, moved to a thrice-weekly print-edition publication schedule (Sundays, Wednesdays and Fridays). The Times-Picayune of New Orleans, also an Advance newspaper, also went to thrice-weekly on the same day.

Print-edition cutbacks[edit]
On May 24, 2012, Advance Publications announced that its three Alabama newspapers would do away with print editions on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. The move was a result of the continuing decline in advertising revenue and circulation for its traditional print products. The move places increased emphasis on their website, al.com, and reorganizes the Alabama properties into two companies: Alabama Media Group, the editorial and advertising side; and Advance Central Services Alabama, which handles production, distribution and back-office services.[4]

The changes took effect on October 1, 2012, making Birmingham the second-largest city in the United States to not be served by a daily newspaper; New Orleans became the largest that same day. New Orleans lost that dubious distinction when Baton Rouge's daily newspaper, The Advocate, began publication of a daily edition in New Orleans; further, on June 24, 2013, The Times-Picayune resumed daily publication with a tabloid edition called "TP Street" sold only through newsstands and retailers.[5] With those two moves, Birmingham became the largest city in the country without its own daily newspaper.

Editorial stance[edit]
According to the paper, when offering a political endorsement, it generally skews toward the Republican Party with a few exceptions.[6][dead link] The paper endorsed Democrat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 United States presidential election,[7] and on November 18, 2017, it endorsed Democrat Doug Jones in the 2017 U.S. Senate special election in Alabama.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birmingham_News

Advance Publications Inc. is an American media company owned by the descendants of S.I. Newhouse Sr., Donald Newhouse and S.I. Newhouse, Jr. It is named after the Staten Island Advance, the first newspaper owned by the Newhouse family, in which Sam Newhouse bought a controlling interest in 1922. The company is nominally headquartered in the Advance offices in Staten Island's Grasmere neighborhood, though Advance has never had an official headquarters.[2]

As of October 2014, it was ranked as the 44th largest privately held company in the United States according to Forbes.[3] Crain's ranked Advance Publications the 4th largest private company in the New York area in 2012. In addition to holding publishing and communication assets, Advance serves as the holding company for the family's 31% stake in cable entertainment company Discovery Communications.[4] Advance also owns a 13% stake in Charter Communications, which it received when Bright House Networks merged with Charter.[5][6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Publications

No one in the State of Alabama would say AL.com is anything but a liberal slanted publication despite that claim in wiki.
Looks like it is owned and run by a bunch of carpet baggers out of NYC.

Thanks, Google kept giving me the Birmingham paper, but I hadn't found how it is connected to the website.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 2:07:49 PM EST
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I know in GD and Alabama everyone thinks "this is a frame up" but I'm pretty confident Moore was a Thirtysomething creeper.

Okay so why did the Post, which seems to have been behind getting this story going, seems like they found the women, not vice versa, pick now to expose Moore? If it was a concern over the mistreatment of women why didn't they set him on fire during the primary or years before? Because the motivation is "let's stop the GOP" not "let's expose a creeper." They didn't start this well after the primary was over with, but close enough to affect the election, coincidentally. This is an attempt to flip congress, either by stopping Moore, or giving Democrats something to beat  up the GOP with in the mid terms. The paper knows if they had exposed this earlier "the GOPe" would have sought out ways to stop Moore.
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The President and Judge Moore are about the same age.  If you believe the BBQ waitress, she was about 17 in 1977 when she had a tryst in a car by the dumpster in the back.  In 1977 the First Lady of the United States was 7.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 2:17:28 PM EST
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For a week I have been thinking the BBQ Waitress story reminded me of something I had seen before.  In the back seat of a Camaro by the dumpster in the ally behind the restaurant.  I finally found the clip on YouTube.

Start at 2:38

The Simpsons: Maggies real Father [Clip]
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 2:22:56 PM EST
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I am confused about all the people that want people not to vote for Moore.  I am sorry their girl lost and all, but this is a binary choice.  Moore is not going to be replaced on the ballot, so you can vote for him or vote for socialism, abortion, social justice and everything else that the Democratic Party stands for.  Is it really that hard of a choice?  I didn't like some things about Trump, but given the choice it was an easy choice.

All the people on our side shilling against Moore need to go the way of Glenn Beck.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 3:07:29 PM EST
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Funding for Moore has pretty much dried up. They say Jones is raking in $250K per day.
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I heard that Moore is getting greatly increased donations.

It is time for people to go on the offense about sexual allegations.  Show the people who were falsely imprisoned  when a woman lied about it.

Show the statistics on how many women lie about it.

Duke Lacrosse team

Brawley, etc.

The idea that people find these allegations "credible" is asinine.

Liberals lie

Media lie.

Women lie.

Stop assuming that men are guilty just based upon an allegation.
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Proof don’t matter anymore, especially to Liberals
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Why is he a creeper?  Forty years ago youger women might be all thats available.  Think about it, the divorce rate was lower, he spent his 20s in the military and law s hool.  By the time he was ready to start a family the best women that were not already married would have been the young ones.
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I know in GD and Alabama everyone thinks "this is a frame up" but I'm pretty confident Moore was a Thirtysomething creeper.

Okay so why did the Post, which seems to have been behind getting this story going, seems like they found the women, not vice versa, pick now to expose Moore? If it was a concern over the mistreatment of women why didn't they set him on fire during the primary or years before? Because the motivation is "let's stop the GOP" not "let's expose a creeper." They didn't start this well after the primary was over with, but close enough to affect the election, coincidentally. This is an attempt to flip congress, either by stopping Moore, or giving Democrats something to beat  up the GOP with in the mid terms. The paper knows if they had exposed this earlier "the GOPe" would have sought out ways to stop Moore.
Why is he a creeper?  Forty years ago youger women might be all thats available.  Think about it, the divorce rate was lower, he spent his 20s in the military and law s hool.  By the time he was ready to start a family the best women that were not already married would have been the young ones.
Like I said earlier in the thread, this exactly describes my father in law, who is absolutely not a "creeper" by any measure.

Aimless' continued assertions are simply demonstrating both a profound cultural ignorance and bias.
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That is how I know someone is blowing smoke.  Using "literally."
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 3:32:09 PM EST
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I'm starting to wonder if this isn't a bunch of catty bitches who hated Moore's wife in high school.
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I know in GD and Alabama everyone thinks "this is a frame up" but I'm pretty confident Moore was a Thirtysomething creeper.

Okay so why did the Post, which seems to have been behind getting this story going, seems like they found the women, not vice versa, pick now to expose Moore? If it was a concern over the mistreatment of women why didn't they set him on fire during the primary or years before? Because the motivation is "let's stop the GOP" not "let's expose a creeper." They didn't start this well after the primary was over with, but close enough to affect the election, coincidentally. This is an attempt to flip congress, either by stopping Moore, or giving Democrats something to beat  up the GOP with in the mid terms. The paper knows if they had exposed this earlier "the GOPe" would have sought out ways to stop Moore.
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So what's the likely hood he wins, as Va will unfortunately be unable to rid itself of 1 of 2 resident shitheads in 18.
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If Republicans turn out at regular levels he will win handily.

If not it's a tossup. I am hoping that the controversy will have pissed off the redneck voters to the point that they are "Moore or bust!" but we won't know for sure until next month.
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They will be coming after Santa Claus next....every Macy's Santa for the last 100 yrs is guilty as sin...
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They will be coming after Santa Claus next....every Macy's Santa for the last 100 yrs is guilty as sin...
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You need an appointment to sit on his lap now.  I wonder when some kid accuses him of having a boner.
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Is there a factual source for campaign contributions for this Senate seat?
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Looking at how shitty all their lives turned out I'm thinking there is a lot of regret that they didn't give Moore a chance to court them back when he was still a "creepy loser" who couldn't find a date.

The equivalent to us men would be that ugly duckling we used to shoo away who later blossomed into a beautiful swan who dotes on her husband.  The difference is we can be adults who admit we fucked up and are happy for that woman instead of trying to ruin her life.
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Opensecrets has data on Moore and Jones.

They both look to have similar amounts of cash on hand although Jones is pulling ahead, likely because the RNC cut ties with Moore. That could change in a week or two though.
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