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Posted: 11/11/2012 7:26:32 AM EDT
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Any info on what happened here? Did the explosion at the center house cause the two surrounding houses to catch fire or did it take them out too?
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The debris field looks like the house on the top exploded, not so sure on the lower one as it doesn't have much of a debris field.
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Quoted: Gas explosion? That's what they're suspecting it as, but not confirmed it yet. |
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<EDIT> Yep, gas explosion. nope! they divided by zero......... |
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This is one reason why I don't have a neighbor within 200 yds.
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That looks like a reasonably modern subdivision, I'd expect medium or high density plastic mains and services if it was built from the mid 70s on. Since I don't see any indication of disturbed ground, I'd have to say if NG related, it was internal and not external as far as the leak was concerned. I also don't see any indication of burnt ground cover which one would normally see if there was ignition outside over a buried service or main after the fact.
I've walked into houses where the owner was trying to arson it with NG, [neighbors call in gas leak order] all I can say is that it's good most of them are retarded and get their info how to do it from movies............. |
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Was one of the houses empty? There's a for sale sign in one of the photo's.
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I dont see any basement foundations or basement windows on any other of the houses.
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What's the Helvetica view looks like? Can't be worse than the WingDings view... |
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What's the Helvetica view looks like? snort...took me a second |
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That's a huge boom, it looks like confetti all over the place from a pinyatta.
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Heck of a leak - methane has to be 5-15% by volume to kaboom.
The odorants (mercaptans) added to make NG smellable can be detected at a much, much lower concentration. Pure speculation, but if it was NG, then it looks like a large volume thereof. Leaking long enough to fill the house, not just a basement. For comparison, a similar size home in Colorado with much less adjacent damage Link |
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Heck of a leak - methane has to be 5-15% by volume to kaboom. The odorants (mercaptans) added to make NG smellable can be detected at a much, much lower concentration. Pure speculation, but if it was NG, then it looks like a large volume thereof. Leaking long enough to fill the house, not just a basement. For comparison, a similar size home in Colorado with much less adjacent damage Link Obviously a 10 mm. |
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Damn. Damn, is all that can be said.
Can you imagine? I mean we all jump up with guns when something goes bump in the night, Imagine walking out to that. |
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When I was in grade school, a guy in our neighborhood blew up his house. Rigged up the furnace to fill the house with nat gas, and had a toaster on a timer to ignite it. Looked about like that picture. Fortunately, neighboring houses didn't get blown apart, although IRC, one did catch fire. He did it for insurance fraud, later killed himself during the investigation...
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My guess is the occupants were sleeping and died from fumes?
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A couple of years ago, I came back from a weekend trip and was returning some camping gear i had borrowed from my folks. They were on their own trip and had been gone for 3.5 days. I could smell the gas 10 feet from the door. Must have bumped the stove on the way out. Unlit burner on low the whole time. Don't know what the concentration % was but I'm damn glad they shut off the furnace before they left.
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Here it is on bing maps before
http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?q=39.645209%2c-86.098269&mkt=en&FORM=HDRSC4 |
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My guess is the occupants were sleeping and died from fumes? nobody was home. they dont know where they are, at least thats not reported. |
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Quoted: Quoted: My guess is the occupants were sleeping and died from fumes? nobody was home. they dont know where they are, at least thats not reported. Hmmm |
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Obviously a Glock enthusiast.
Seriously though, that looks awful. It looks like one house exploded, and three neighboring homes caught fire. |
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My guess is the occupants were sleeping and died from fumes? methane has enough odorant that it will wake most people up, at least for a slow leak over time. The 5-15% methane explosive range means that the Nitrogen/Oxygen & other normal constituents of air would be reduced accordingly, so oxygen deprivation could make the residents drowsy & not wake up. We designed O2 equipment to alarm at 19.5% for workplace, you have to get to ~16% or lower before effects start becoming pronounced. CO kills a lot faster (people not waking up) at much lower concentrations. Maybe deliberate (suicide/murder suicide then gas to cover up) maybe just nobody home. Tight enough proximity and fancy enough houses that natural causes would be lower likelihood. Could be insurance for a house that wasn't selling. (all of course pure speculation) ETA: clarifications: Normal Oxygen is 20.9%, we would set to alarm for both lower and higher than normal O2 concentrations. Methane (NG) is explosive only between 5% and 15% concentration in air (LEL / UEL are the lower and upper explosive limits) We would default alarms at some fraction of LEL, well below the point at which explosive concentration was reached. |
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Quoted: Wow. Prayers for the folks who died. This. Sad for all that lost loved ones and homes. |
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Indianapolis Fire, Indianapolis Police, the ATF, Homeland Security and other agencies are investigating. A gas leak is suspected but investigators have not yet been able to get close enough to the source to confirm the cause.
The ATF and Homeland Security? |
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