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Quoted: Oh yes, this is a point I do like to bring up in SHTF threads. Best case scenario we have millions of people detoxing off this shit with nothing but a blanket and maybe a small meal now and then from some merciful person. Worst case... Well. I think we have all seen zombie movies. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: One thing to remember regarding civil war (and also SHTF) Almost all docs will do psych meds on a 90 day refill, requiring them to return to the docs office. So at the 90 day mark, the entire country will be off psych meds. And coming off psych meds is a brutal experience that normally requires medical guidance. If those supply lines are cut, we would see a very noticeable issues. Oh yes, this is a point I do like to bring up in SHTF threads. Best case scenario we have millions of people detoxing off this shit with nothing but a blanket and maybe a small meal now and then from some merciful person. Worst case... Well. I think we have all seen zombie movies. That’s an interesting thought. I don’t knew a lot about psych drugs. So I’m curious what kind of behavior you could expect from someone detoxing. I would guess some mix of depression and aggression, with a little hallucinations thrown in. But I don’t really know. Would there be a percentage of people who zombie out? |
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Quoted: One thing to remember regarding civil war (and also SHTF) Almost all docs will do psych meds on a 90 day refill, requiring them to return to the docs office. So at the 90 day mark, the entire country will be off psych meds. And coming off psych meds is a brutal experience that normally requires medical guidance. If those supply lines are cut, we would see a very noticeable issues. View Quote Then hopefully they just kill themselves or die from withdrawals. Winning. |
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Quoted: That’s an interesting thought. I don’t knew a lot about psych drugs. So I’m curious what kind of behavior you could expect from someone detoxing. I would guess some mix of depression and aggression, with a little hallucinations thrown in. But I don’t really know. Would there be a percentage of people who zombie out? View Quote This is one of those things that I really should look into. What I have heard anecdotally from a variety of sources is that detoxing off of antidepressants can be a worse experience than detoxing off of heroin. I've also heard that long term use of antidepressants has been seen to cause human brains to wither at autopsy. Regardless I would expect the underlying mental issues the drugs were prescribed to deal with to come roaring back. Hmm, zounds pretty bad. Psychiatrist Taking Antidepressants Says Withdrawal is NOT Mild or Brief |
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Quoted: As Mentioned we are already in a civil war. Every last bit of footage from Rittenhouse was available 48 hrs after he shut that riot down. As mentioned one guy doing the right thing shut down a 3 day riot. We have been kept in the dark with epstien footage and client list also pretty much,the trump attempt. Where are all the DVR's siezed by the feds at all epstiens hides? Where are the pix of the explosives crooks supposedly had and his social media isonly now coming out due to the private digging. Gov. has already picked a side no pun intended but they sure didn't pick the right side. Two coups in the white house in 4 years tossing out 14-15 milion dem votes this time printing them up the 1st time. Possibly printing more again come Oct. Again as mentioned you don't attack Mr. pretty in pink useful idiot. You want his sugar daddy holding the wallet. Where is Henry Bowman when you need him. I do NOT want CW but I have also learned in life I get a bunch of shit I never wanted. View Quote if everyone was a Henry bowman. the civil war might last 3 days. |
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Quoted: if everyone was a Henry bowman. the civil war might last 3 days. View Quote I don't think we can count on anyone being that aggressive and willing to go without sleep. Maybe the ATF will be that cartoonishly vicious and incompetent though. We do seem to be into the, "bureaucracy is willing to cut its own throat to spite it's neck." Phase of civilization. |
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Quoted: It will only be started by the Left if their political leaders think they can win. View Quote |
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Quoted: So the non elite commie formations are good for 5 yards? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm sure it's there to help with hyperventilating after she runs 10 yards in full kit. So the non elite commie formations are good for 5 yards? I doubt that fat fuck can feed itself without a drive through window. |
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Quoted: This is one possibility, the other is that supplies traversing the red vastness stop arriving in the blue downtown areas. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The left thinks a civil war looks like rednecks hipfiring ARs at F16s or tanks on a military base. The right thinks a civil war looks like black clad pink haired antifa hamplanet troons dragging people from their houses block by block and hoisting communist flags on the flagpoles. What it’ll actually look like is people getting murdered one at a time until enough are dead that the revenge killings start. And then the civil services and commerce break down. Less The Patriot battlefield scenes and more shivving a politically active business owner in a mail bathroom. Not advocating, just realistically describing. This is one possibility, the other is that supplies traversing the red vastness stop arriving in the blue downtown areas. Excellent point. But this requires that one of two things happen. 1) Conservatives develop a tribal mentality 2) Conservatives start performing terrorism against truck drivers Either ALL (or a significant percentage of) the truck drivers start saying “Nah I’m not delivering to California today” or “Yeah, I’ll deliver to Chicago” *wink wink* and then drop the load off in Kentucky. Because the companies sending that freight? They’re not going to want to f around with politics. You think Walmart is going to say “This poopwound shit has gone on too long, we’re not stocking New York stores anymore?” No, they want to stay out of it and make money. They have no principles. Or you start posting guys with Remington 783s on overpasses to take potshots at trucks/putting IEDs on the sides of the road and scare the drivers away from the big cities. Or some combination/variation of the two. You don’t get through this without tribalizing conservatives, or small squad violence. I and everyone I know are on the first course of action, trying to network and build like minded groups of patriots. Everyone here should be, except for the leftists and N_T folx (but I repeat myself). Again, not advocating, just realistically describing. You can’t stop shipping food to blue cities without coordinated action at the ground level, or violence against those engaged in transportation. |
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Quoted: what it really looks like is an almost complete breakdown of society, no law enforcement, sparse communication, power outages, food shortages, major disruption of supplies and bodies in the streets, lack of clean water, uncontrolled fires, and not just in the cities View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The left thinks a civil war looks like rednecks hipfiring ARs at F16s or tanks on a military base. The right thinks a civil war looks like black clad pink haired antifa hamplanet troons dragging people from their houses block by block and hoisting communist flags on the flagpoles. What it’ll actually look like is people getting murdered one at a time until enough are dead that the revenge killings start. And then the civil services and commerce break down. Less The Patriot battlefield scenes and more shivving a politically active business owner in a mail bathroom. Not advocating, just realistically describing. what it really looks like is an almost complete breakdown of society, no law enforcement, sparse communication, power outages, food shortages, major disruption of supplies and bodies in the streets, lack of clean water, uncontrolled fires, and not just in the cities So the “And then the civil services and commerce break down” sentence from my post? You don’t go zero to sixty in two days. It’s low level violence until people figure out they’re part of the game too, then it’s revenge killing and attacks (as if there haven’t already been) on public figures and servants, and then shipping companies can’t move product because the drivers want to stay home and protect their families, the power and water plants are unmanned for the same reason, and now we’re boned. Stock market goes to shit. China realizes that no one is buying rubber dogshit anymore and decides their last best hope of salvaging their empire is to get it on with a neighbor. The revenge killings carried out in the US occur on a macro level as the US Military just ain’t a player anymore and countries go at each others throats over territory or old grudges. Someone opens the can of spicy sunshine and now it’s a question mark. Best case scenario the world devolves to old west level of technology for a hundred years or so while our population climbs back up from the low tens of millions. |
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If Civil war goes down, Maga would be behind it 100%
Project 2025 |
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Quoted: I’m not a finance guy, so explain to me why this would result in civil war. View Quote There's countries where the .gov could (maybe) keep most everything functioning on a basic level, if the Currency suddenly went into total freefall. The USA ain't one of those countries. The Federal Government (and the State, County, and Municipal governments) can pass whatever law or emergency legislation they like....but if they can't pay the troops to show up and go kick someone's ass....and cannot put cans of beans on store shelves....and cannot push critical medications to the local CVS.....and cannot keep the power plants running.... ....large areas of the country immediately (like, within 96 hours) become totally ungovernable. It's kind of like the "LOL, imagine the cities when the EBT System goes down for a week!"....but You & Me and even semi-wealthy people are caught in it, as logistics, LE, and commerce collapse. People (not just the FSA and crooks) immediately begin to try and get what they need to make it through the week....and that goes to guns, in a hurry. From shootouts over the last bag of bananas in Walmart, to a couple of "off-duty" Sheriff's deputies stopping cars on a county road so their buddies can pull all the food/valuables/gas out, to folks stalking your neighborhood to see what they can scavenge/steal, to armed & aggressive "neighborhood watch" groups blocking public roads to keep you out (or keep you confined), to the local PD sweeping neighborhoods to find "hoarders" (that 5 gallons of gas could fuel a cop car for hours!). Things spiral down from there. I didn't even address political/ethnic/local grudge-based violence. ...and, unlike Yugoslavia or the like, there's nobody coming in from the outside world to help in any way (the US melts down, the UK, Europe, China, etc....will all be occupied trying to keep themselves from collapsing). In Yugoslavia, the war ended if you drove/walked/swam over the border to Italy or Greece. |
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Quoted: As always, people will talk shit and do nothing. View Quote Seen 60 years of that in my lifetime. No reason to believe the civil unrest and proliferation of the disorder will reverse. The insanity is now rampant while the Democrats continue to grow powerful and crush those who oppose. |
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Quoted: That’s an interesting thought. I don’t knew a lot about psych drugs. So I’m curious what kind of behavior you could expect from someone detoxing. I would guess some mix of depression and aggression, with a little hallucinations thrown in. But I don’t really know. Would there be a percentage of people who zombie out? View Quote Overexaggerated. People come off SSRI and the like all the time as their prescriptions don't get renewed. For many, nothing happens. Might be better off. |
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As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place. Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all. We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn: But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind, So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind. We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace, Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place, But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome. With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch, They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch; They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings; So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things. When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace. They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease. But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know." On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life (Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife) Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death." In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all, By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul; But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die." Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more. As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man There are only four things certain since Social Progress began. That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire, And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire; And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins, As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn, The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return! |
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I don’t hate the police. But after all I have seen the last few years, I don’t trust them either.
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Quoted: I remember the sectarian violence in Baghdad. It was mostly religious, but it was brutal. Street vs street, house vs house. It was a bloodbath for a good while. I could see something like that here and 99% of America absolutely does not want that. Count me in that 99%. My God, it'd be hell View Quote Correct brother. |
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The Fourth Turning. It's here.
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Fun fact (and yes, I studied this period in depth):
The United States today, politically, has begun to bear striking similarities to Germany under the failed Weimar Republic. Infer whatever you may about our future from that fact, but let me assure you, none of it is good. |
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Quoted: Fear the men who wanted to be left alone. I hear you, and want to be left alone too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I just want to be left alone. I'll do what I must if shit hits the fan but I don't want to deal with it. Fear the men who wanted to be left alone. I hear you, and want to be left alone too. I have said this myself many times. |
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Quoted: Canada?? Why wouldn't you just give up and join the opposition here? Save you the move. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'd do everything in my own individual power to keep my family out and away from getting involved in it, including myself. *knock knock* "Hey Canada, let us in!" Seen and experienced enough of war. I hope cool heads will prevail, albeit there is an ebb and flow no natter the generation all throughout history. Truth. |
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Quoted: Why do they have to "fight" for gay rights when gays already have rights? Also, civil war threads get old. Shouldn't we be doing WW3 threads right now? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What’s with the goofy beret? Elite commie brigade? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_7100-3277579.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_7101-3277580.jpg Why do they have to "fight" for gay rights when gays already have rights? Also, civil war threads get old. Shouldn't we be doing WW3 threads right now? Hand in hand they all go together. |
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Quoted: I’m not a finance guy, so explain to me why this would result in civil war. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The US experiencing a Sovereign Debt Crisis would definitely result in a (many-sided) civil conflict, whether anybody was wanting it or not. I’m not a finance guy, so explain to me why this would result in civil war. Empty stomachs. |
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We just have to wait it out, once Door Dash fails the left will crumble!
ETA - When we are only nine meals from anarchy, this guy is maybe three? |
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Civil war, probably not.
Our enemies turning off our power grid, more likely. Then it’s a free for all for food and water. |
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Quoted: Fun fact (and yes, I studied this period in depth): The United States today, politically, has begun to bear striking similarities to Germany under the failed Weimar Republic. Infer whatever you may about our future from that fact, but let me assure you, none of it is good. View Quote And just like in the Weimar, there have been clashes in the streets between commies and quote "ring wing" groups. They just haven't been as bloody. |
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Quoted: And just like in the Weimar, there have been clashes in the streets between commies and quote "ring wing" groups. They just haven't been as bloody. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Fun fact (and yes, I studied this period in depth): The United States today, politically, has begun to bear striking similarities to Germany under the failed Weimar Republic. Infer whatever you may about our future from that fact, but let me assure you, none of it is good. And just like in the Weimar, there have been clashes in the streets between commies and quote "ring wing" groups. They just haven't been as bloody. Well, we saw that in the 1960s, and there was bloodshed, but what’s different and more dangerous today is the “Balkanization” and deep fracturing on ideological lines. IOW, we’re not just arguing about what color the drapes should be anymore. Keep your umbrellas handy folks, cuz the forecast is definitely calling for rain. |
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Quoted: What’s with the goofy beret? Elite commie brigade? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_7100-3277579.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_7101-3277580.jpg View Quote Im skeerrd... |
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Quoted: That is literally what John Brown gun club is, yes. I'd hesitate to call them "elite" though, but they do at least practice shooting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What's with the goofy beret? Elite commie brigade? Elite like AFG elite ? Or tards with trashcan guns? Is he a commador, commisar bubbles with his rank and plushie. I'm sorry if dude has to put gloves on to clean his weapons. Yeah... |
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Quoted: will there be mortars? if so im down for civil war https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Yorktown13inmortars1862.jpg View Quote I'm down for getting a gray beard and a cannon. |
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Quoted: What an odd thing to say. https://imgb.ifunny.co/images/29ea0b42296dd77aa584a686b1f5707226673b0946e9672ec4d1cc5c09c1558a_1.webp View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If Civil war goes down, Maga would be behind it 100% Project 2025 What an odd thing to say. https://imgb.ifunny.co/images/29ea0b42296dd77aa584a686b1f5707226673b0946e9672ec4d1cc5c09c1558a_1.webp One of the leftist objectives to to push hard enough that people push back and they can then blame the violence on them. It's very Hamas-like in its reasoning and execution. And somewhat effective as well, as demonstrated. The left says the American flag is racist, the left says we should all sing two national anthems, use preferred pronouns, celebrate things that violate your religious beliefs, be forced to drive an electric car, be forced to remain within 15 mins of your home or be fined, be forced to subject your children to the lefts medical whims, those aren't your children, they belong to all of us, burning someone's business down is peaceful, defending yourself or property is evil, race preferences aren't racist as long as it's the right race, or implimented by the left, don't pray there, you'll go to prison... But it's the right that's dividing us. Sure. |
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Quoted: Good start, but it still requires the ability. Most will not take a human life, even at their own expense. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Possessing the means to defend and protect yourself is wise and prudent Good start, but it still requires the ability. Most will not take a human life, even at their own expense. Some learn quickly, some never learn...............but if you possess the means, you better possess the ability.............otherwise you are dead |
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