So are they developing "afghanoflage" or just reproducing work the Australians, Canadians and USMC have already done?  At least the Canucks and Jar Heads were smart enough to realize one patter would not do.

Here's an oxymoron:  "Universal Camoflage"  That will take more than cloth and dye

ETA: Info on the development of CADPAT.  I'm no expert, but the methodology sounds pretty good (if expensive).

UCP works ok if you get it dirty using the dirt where you are going to be operating but over all it was made to blend in with Urban/ and NIR
I think Multicam would be the best choice in most situations but would fail in the following Urban/Pure desert/ Snow/Gray woodland/ tropical green
I think US forces should have ACU-Marpat-Multicam-l in digital form -Snow digital to choose from depending on where they are going to be stationed at.

here is a test I did a while back

ok so I did another test to see why ACU was chosen and if it does work better dirty or clean and here is what I found
In urban it works better clean, and in woodland you want to rub the local dirt into it. Check out the picture below I rubbed a little dirt in on the sleeve and it changed colors matching the local terrain perfect








And here is a  picture comparing Dirty ACU to Multicam







here is a picture of clean ACU  dirty ACU and Multicam







Marpat on left ACU in middle Multicam on the right
Marpat was the top performer but ACU does work good enough in desert






here is an urban test I did

ACU  is not as bad as some have made it out to be

Here are some pics of the new UCP-Delta pattern being field tested

UCP-D looks like dirty, shit on ACU.

That's one ugly camo. Like I said in another thread, it isnt fashionable enough to be worn at West Point, or recruiting stations.

ACU looks much better.

I didn't realize fashion was the goal here.

I think (hope) he was joking

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You're naive if you think it isnt a factor.

The USA military is not going to let their soldiers wear something fug.

I noticed with the bottom pic above that the camo looks much greener than in the ones above it.  I also noticed that the coloration on the mag pouches
right under the magazine of his rifle looks more like the normal gray
you usually see - as in the first two pics above.  Is there a chance that the bottom
pic was photoshoped?
Also, does anyone know of there is any UCP-D available for purchase anywhere?
-K





 

I am actually pretty sure not. I have seen some wide variation in UCP.

If we could get the fashion police 100% out of the Army, it would be better for everyone left...



Much, much better...



 

A question from the Army side of the house:

What purpose is the dark blue digital pattern supposed to serve? Surely, naval personnel will not be required to wear that uniform in combat?

86 the ACU BDU and extra Multicam it... BAMMMMM

I believe the stated purpose was to hide a sailor in the water - that way it will be more difficult for rescuer.... er.. I mean the enemy to find them.






No, I'm not serious about that, but I do see that as being a problem.  



The actual stated reason IIRC is to act as a 'working uniform' that will hide fuel or grease or paint stains that will get on the uniform (which isn't really such a bad idea).  I believe sailors who are on the ground will be wearing Marpat, but it could also be the old BDU/DCU patterns - I'm not sure.
-K



 

+1 but it probably works ok. I don't get my multicam is so hard to pass through maybe the army should make a copy cat version like the Brits

yeah most people don't get how it works, from what I can see it creates a ghosting looking figure that disrupts the silhouette at long range basically it does not have lines. I think it's best for Urban/Rocky/gray woodland/snow areas. It does work at long range 300 meters + I have had 2 friends stand next to each other at long range using Multicam and ACU and sometimes the Multi appeared dark silhouetting the person. Up close the ACU appears almost blue but far away it does get the job done!


my friend is out there 200 meters !



100 meters



25 meters



comparing to Marpat wood in open field 25 meters as you can see it bleeds out!!

I don't like the Hyperstealth pattern it's very cluttered I prefer the CADPAT pattern used in ARPAT-MARPAT

Yeah I don't think anybody arguing that ACUs work okay for strictly desert or even urban operations. The fact is they completely blow goats when it comes to anything forest related.

btt

looks like  multican may just be the new camo

http://soldiersystems.net/2010/02/17/army-to-field-multicam-in-afghanistan/

Anyone have a picture of the Italian pattern?  Looks very similar.

Found these on google.




Looks really good.