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Link Posted: 8/2/2016 11:56:19 PM EST
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Thanks for the intelligent response. OP's juvenile answers were annoying.


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lol. as a 35M myself, please forgive my laughter at how seriously OP seems to take himself. All that's required to be an Army interrogator is to finish the ridiculously easy course at Huachuca (or Utah), where almost everyone gets pushed through anyway. I saw lots of (private and specialist) morons graduate Huachuca and go out into the world as "interrogators". Some of them did one deployment, maybe doing interrogations, maybe doing source ops, maybe doing not much of either, and then come back and instruct at Huachuca because the money wasn't bad and they qualified by simply having mob'ed and graduated the original course. HT-JCOE has some more stringent requirements for their SOC and DSDC course instructors.  

In the case of the OP, he probably was an instructor at the Utah Regional Training Center at Camp Williams and in the National Guard, because active duty 35M's haven't had a language requirement for the last decade. And languages are a joke, because you just take the DLPT and if you get 1 out of 3, you technically qualify for language pay in that language, even if you can't speak it. Conversely, languages such as Dari and Farsi, which are functionally different dialects of the same language, qualify the soldier for two separate language payments and count as separate languages.

The regulations and rules surrounding interrogations over the last several years (since abu gharib) have been so strict that an O6 (Full bird colonel) has to (but rarely will) sign off on any interrogation plan proposing to use mutt/jeff (good/bad cop) or false flag approaches. Anything more "advanced" than that is strictly prohibited and will land the entire chain of command in prison. Everything else is pretty much subtle psychology, such as "pride and ego up/down" or "love of family/country, etc"... stuff you'd use on your friends to get them to do something they didnt want to do. Most interrogations are pretty boring, because unless you are getting a first crack at the subject, he's probably been getting interrogated longer than the interrogator has been an interrogator and he knows the game.


There were some of the interrogators in my unit that got tasked to a special task force with SOF to do interrogations. Those were much less rigidly controlled than most of the conventional interrogation facilities, but they still had to play exactly by the book. They just got to wear cooler clothes and grow longer beards. Army interrogations pretty much consist of sitting in a room with a guy and chatting him up for hours at a time... buddying up to him or offering him better accommodations/ cigarettes etc, then filing another interrogation plan the next time and doing it all again...hoping to glean some little detail or crumb of info that can be construed into an IIR. And there isn't even much of that going on anymore. It's a toxic branch of intelligence that no career officer wants anything to do with because of the potential to lose their jobs over the actions of some idiot E4. OGA's and other specialized units do their own interrogations, but the Army has mostly stepped out of the business for political reasons.





Thanks for the intelligent response. OP's juvenile answers were annoying.




This. Thanks for a straightforward answer in a low quality GD thread.
Link Posted: 8/3/2016 12:05:49 AM EST
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OP did you ever suck a detainee's dick to the point that he couldn't live without it and you threatened stopping to get your answers?
Link Posted: 8/3/2016 12:15:33 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/3/2016 12:20:09 AM EST
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This. Thanks for a straightforward answer in a low quality GD thread.
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lol. as a 35M myself, please forgive my laughter at how seriously OP seems to take himself. All that's required to be an Army interrogator is to finish the ridiculously easy course at Huachuca (or Utah), where almost everyone gets pushed through anyway. I saw lots of (private and specialist) morons graduate Huachuca and go out into the world as "interrogators". Some of them did one deployment, maybe doing interrogations, maybe doing source ops, maybe doing not much of either, and then come back and instruct at Huachuca because the money wasn't bad and they qualified by simply having mob'ed and graduated the original course. HT-JCOE has some more stringent requirements for their SOC and DSDC course instructors.  

In the case of the OP, he probably was an instructor at the Utah Regional Training Center at Camp Williams and in the National Guard, because active duty 35M's haven't had a language requirement for the last decade. And languages are a joke, because you just take the DLPT and if you get 1 out of 3, you technically qualify for language pay in that language, even if you can't speak it. Conversely, languages such as Dari and Farsi, which are functionally different dialects of the same language, qualify the soldier for two separate language payments and count as separate languages.

The regulations and rules surrounding interrogations over the last several years (since abu gharib) have been so strict that an O6 (Full bird colonel) has to (but rarely will) sign off on any interrogation plan proposing to use mutt/jeff (good/bad cop) or false flag approaches. Anything more "advanced" than that is strictly prohibited and will land the entire chain of command in prison. Everything else is pretty much subtle psychology, such as "pride and ego up/down" or "love of family/country, etc"... stuff you'd use on your friends to get them to do something they didnt want to do. Most interrogations are pretty boring, because unless you are getting a first crack at the subject, he's probably been getting interrogated longer than the interrogator has been an interrogator and he knows the game.


There were some of the interrogators in my unit that got tasked to a special task force with SOF to do interrogations. Those were much less rigidly controlled than most of the conventional interrogation facilities, but they still had to play exactly by the book. They just got to wear cooler clothes and grow longer beards. Army interrogations pretty much consist of sitting in a room with a guy and chatting him up for hours at a time... buddying up to him or offering him better accommodations/ cigarettes etc, then filing another interrogation plan the next time and doing it all again...hoping to glean some little detail or crumb of info that can be construed into an IIR. And there isn't even much of that going on anymore. It's a toxic branch of intelligence that no career officer wants anything to do with because of the potential to lose their jobs over the actions of some idiot E4. OGA's and other specialized units do their own interrogations, but the Army has mostly stepped out of the business for political reasons.





Thanks for the intelligent response. OP's juvenile answers were annoying.





This. Thanks for a straightforward answer in a low quality GD thread.



So much this. There goes my visuals of you guys stringing some ISIS member up by his nuts as you take turns poking him with a cattle prod.



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OP did you ever suck a detainee's dick to the point that he couldn't live without it and you threatened stopping to get your answers?


Link Posted: 8/3/2016 7:06:48 AM EST
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You're making the assumption that I considered these sources to be humans...
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When attaching electrodes to a guys nuts how do you get past the fact that you are touching another guys junk and that is kinda gay? I mean you can wear gloves but still...  

Thank you for your service.



You're making the assumption that I considered these sources to be humans...


I thought this was the most interesting response, intentional or not.

I would think the people who could leverage deciet, false sympathy and and other forms of manipulation at work and still be able to go home to a family and be a nice guy would either have to be full time sociopaths who are always faking it, or would have to provide themselves a psychological excuse at work to justify the actions neccessary (e.g. it's ok to lie, trick, hurt this subject because it's not actually a real human).
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