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Posted: 8/21/2021 11:59:51 PM EDT
Got a new sap from Todd Foster.
9 inches 15 ounces. Shot filled. It would knock someone into next week. Saps and Jacks are the most under rated defense things you can carry IMO. Attached File |
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Quoted: Got a new sap from Todd Foster. 9 inches 15 ounces. Shot filled. It would knock someone into next week. Saps and Jacks are the most under rated defense things you can carry IMO. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/81840/354E0673-E708-4A01-B4B5-F0C8AD163399_jpe-2061529.JPG View Quote Find this interesting. For those scenarios where you don’t want to use a firearm, but still have a legal justification and need to adjust an attitude. |
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Quoted: Got a new sap from Todd Foster. 9 inches 15 ounces. Shot filled. It would knock someone into next week. Saps and Jacks are the most under rated defense things you can carry IMO. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/81840/354E0673-E708-4A01-B4B5-F0C8AD163399_jpe-2061529.JPG View Quote Nice, got a like for where you ordered it from? |
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Quoted: Find this interesting. For those scenarios where you don’t want to use a firearm, but still have a legal justification and need to adjust an attitude. View Quote The smaller ones fit great in a pocket and could be very handy. Attached File |
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Filled mine with American dimes because it's a change purse.
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These seem interesting but it seems like every state has some archaic law from the 50's which will ruin your life if you're caught with one.
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I found one digging around in old crevaces of the PD years ago.
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Those locks they give away with guns work pretty well as saps, plus not illegal.
Nice little item to keep in the truck for just in case. |
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Awesome. Only seen one used once. On an aggressive vagrant in downtown salt lake. Pioneer park early 1990’s.
Lights out. Wish I had it on video. |
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Quoted: These seem interesting but it seems like every state has some archaic law from the 50's which will ruin your life if you're caught with one. View Quote Yes…a few are legal though. Utah is good to go. I think texas is? ETA Utah you are good if you have a CCW. It covers “dangerous weapons”. I go to a barber shop where the AG of Utah goes ..I asked him he said it’s kinda a gray area and they are allowed. |
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Some states laws are weird about shit like saps and blackjacks. Hence the "change purse" design popular among some of the EDC nerds. When I lived in Vegas they made a big deal in CCW classes about how saps/blackjacks/stun guns are all no go. Never made sense to me considering you could open carry about any gun you wanted and CCW with a permission slip.
My grandfather had a few that I wish I had today. |
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Quoted: These seem interesting but it seems like every state has some archaic law from the 50's which will ruin your life if you're caught with one. View Quote Most places consider it a deadly weapon if you crack someone with it. Also many places (liberal shitholes) consider mere possession of it to be a misdemeanor. I was issued a large and a small sap in the academy back in 1998... Mine was one of the last classes to get them. Within 2 or 3 years they were taken out of policy in favor of expandable batons... |
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Quoted: Those locks they give away with guns work pretty well as saps, plus not illegal. Nice little item to keep in the truck for just in case. View Quote Those stupid locks are one of those things I just never have been able to throw away but have yet to use for anything ever. I have boxes of the damn things from over the years. Today GD taught me that I own 87 saps and didn't even know it. |
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Quoted: My grandfather had a few that I wish I had today. View Quote My granddaddy brother was chief of police in a small town in North Carolina told me said never hit with full power. you can break a man's arm with ease with an edge strike. Simple way to disable them with out too much trouble. |
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Quoted: Got a new sap from Todd Foster. 9 inches 15 ounces. Shot filled. It would knock someone into next week. Saps and Jacks are the most under rated defense things you can carry IMO. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/81840/354E0673-E708-4A01-B4B5-F0C8AD163399_jpe-2061529.JPG View Quote The Olympic Boxer, Todd Foster? |
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Not quite but I’m shopping. Your post brought back the memory of that night. I’ll likely never use it but gotta add one to the stable. If nothing else it will look good next to great grandpa’s well used 1920’s brass knuckles. |
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Quoted: My granddaddy brother was chief of police in a small town in North Carolina told me said never hit with full power. you can break a man's arm with ease with an edge strike. Simple way to disable them with out too much trouble. View Quote I know nothing about saps, though they were only effective/used in smacking the noodle, Interesting. What is an edge strike? |
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Quoted: I know nothing about saps, though they were only effective/used in smacking the noodle, Interesting. What is an edge strike? View Quote Instead of striking with the flat side …you’d turn it and strike with the edge. It is very rigid and more narrow and still has the punch of the lead in it. |
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are these a fair price, you know for collecting?
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I have two that belonged to my father.
He was a Columbus cop. They both have scars from use, and one is split open on the seams and wrapped tightly in electrical tape. He told me he split the one on some drunk assholes hands. He put the guy up against his car, and the guy grabbed ahold of the “Mickey mouse” light on the top of the car. He repeatedly hit the guys hands to make him let go. He broke the guy’s hands, and the Mickey Mouse light. |
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My mom carried a 2 inch ball from a trailer hitch in her purse. She used it on a guy that tried to rob her. She knocked out 3 of his teeth with one swing.
Some Houston firemen saw what happened and came over to help my mom and held the guy until the cops came. This happened in 1977 or 1978 she was a pioneer of women's self-defense. |
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Quoted: are these a fair price, you know for collecting? View Quote Yes those are pretty decent for the money. A lot better than the Amazon cheapies. The Foster saps and jacks like I have are usually 150. But nobody makes them better. For reels. |
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I'd love to find out if things like these or brass knuckles are legal in AZ, especially with a CCW permit
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This guy makes good “jacks”. They are the skinny ones…not the flat ones. A Jack would do more damage to someone IMO.
I wish he’d update his website. It’s horrible. https://ddwhips.wordpress.com/standard-blackjack-design-gallery/ |
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Here is one more iteration in a sense.
I have flown with this several times and TSA has never looked twice at it. I just clip it to my backpack and it looks like a key chain? Either way it’s never been a problem. The leather part is a loop that fits your hand and the snap hook part weighs 10 ounces. It would do a ton of damage also. Attached File |
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Quoted: Got a new sap from Todd Foster. 9 inches 15 ounces. Shot filled. It would knock someone into next week. Saps and Jacks are the most under rated defense things you can carry IMO. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/81840/354E0673-E708-4A01-B4B5-F0C8AD163399_jpe-2061529.JPG View Quote I've always wanted a sap and an asp, as well as an ASP. |
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Quoted: The smaller ones fit great in a pocket and could be very handy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/81840/4C98361B-215C-4AFF-85D7-3562B0630493_jpe-2061537.JPG View Quote Gay bar sex toys? Da Fuq ? |
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