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Posted: 1/15/2023 12:32:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe so, but form 1 threads didn't turn into 8 page discussions about compliance until now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm not going to articulate what I do on a public forum regarding all this but I'm just curious where all these "do not comply!" people were in all the form 1, SBR, and suppressor threads before this?  Some of us don't have any of those things. Maybe so, but form 1 threads didn't turn into 8 page discussions about compliance until now. I wasn't threatened before this. That has changed. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 12:32:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So are you going to keep your braced pistols in their configuration while you apply for registration? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You want me to analyze every state's SBR laws and let you know how those laws will work with the BATF FAQ??? LOL!! No. How does ATF declare non-enforcement of a federal felony via a FAQ on the internet when they have aggressively enforced it in the past? I am not a spokesperson for the BATF. You should direct those questions to the BATF. So are you going to keep your braced pistols in their configuration while you apply for registration? I am not falling for your tricks, Mr. Agent Man. You be glowin 
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Posted: 1/15/2023 12:38:47 PM EDT
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I'm wondering how many of the "will not comply" folks were the ones carrying a copy of the ATF letter along with their overpriced piece of plastic.
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Posted: 1/15/2023 12:40:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm wondering how many of the "will not comply" folks were the ones carrying a copy of the ATF letter along with their overpriced piece of plastic. Negative. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 12:58:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/temp-97.gif We should place bets. My money is on the douche on the far left. He looks like a "bro" kinda guy. https://preview.redd.it/3vu7b4lr7do71.jpg?auto=webp&s=a76a59b0ffa3ac90acb1b0c6a25ad3f3677af0b6 Quote HistoryQuoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/temp-97.gif Quoted: The bro part makes me think of the picture people post of the young fbi agents in shorts in tshirts hanging out. Lol. In this case it is “batfe” though We should place bets. My money is on the douche on the far left. He looks like a "bro" kinda guy. https://preview.redd.it/3vu7b4lr7do71.jpg?auto=webp&s=a76a59b0ffa3ac90acb1b0c6a25ad3f3677af0b6 We can rate threads "epic," "troll," etc, I wish we had a "glowie" button to push 
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Posted: 1/15/2023 1:23:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s interesting that the fbatf denies form 1 suppressors made from solvent trap because they say the parts are already suppressors and therefore illegal, but your braced pistol is okey dokie as an unregistered sbr until your stamp comes in. Basically, they should have sold several million solvent traps. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 1:34:14 PM EDT
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Geez OP, did you wait overnight in a line so you could be first to register?
And from Texas ? You should be ashamed. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 1:35:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not a spokesperson for the BATF. You should direct those questions to the BATF.  Attached File
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Posted: 1/15/2023 1:39:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I am not a spokesperson for the BATF. You should direct those questions to the BATF. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/dont_believe_you_anchorman_zps267e5cbb_GIF-108.gif If that dude isn’t a glowie, Maegan Hall is a virgin |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 2:18:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is no where near true. Some just like to tell themselves that to justify their actions (registration). Funny, a group of people seem to say that braces are work-arounds to SBR's, then turn around and say that braces owners are complying anyway. Logically, that makes no sense. How can you use a work-around, yet comply at the same time? (Folks conflate SBR with NFA) Braces are not a work-around to SBR's because pistol laws are >>>>>>>>SBR laws. Are 80% lowers a "work around" to 4473's, but anyone that does not drill a 3rd hole is complying anyway? It is basically reductio ad absurdum at work. If brace people are somehow complying, then every LEGAL gun owner by definition is complying. The only way to NOT comply would be to own something illegal.....PUBLICLY. If you don't have an unregistered silencer on your firearm, you are "complying". Yeah, it is a stupid argument pushed by folks that are mad that braces and 80% lowers and 3D lowers are becoming a thing, and no one gives a shit about how many "stamps" they have. This stamp owner loves seeing loophole (characteristic of the law) “compliance”, especially for those that need it due to local laws, frequent unplanned interstate travel, or just a healthy desire for spontaneity or privacy. An earlier loophole-screeching example was trust registration, that helped the suppressor market break through to a common-man accessory in states where cans were legal, but local CLEOs were gate keepers. The more the merrier. Keep your head down, your gun drawn, and ride in the middle of the (biggest) posse. Problem is once something becomes popular, rubbed in their regulator noses, or hits the Nancy boys in the media, the hysteresis loop spins up. The gun control clits are buzzing like an FRT trigger over smacking down gun loving Neanderthals on anything. Today it’s the pistol brace shell game final round to the grand prize. Let’s see who gets voted off the island. Progressivism is the fear that somebody, somewhere, is doing something as a free agent without oversight. It’s amazing how many conservative gun owners have progressive black boot polish on their tongues. I have stamps because it’s cheap, stay out of jail insurance that’s available, but it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg if someone else wants to take their chance with their choice and their risk tolerance. If braced pistols go away my impact will be minimal, but I’m not fine with it. We all hang together if the left gets their way. It’s sad that gun people can’t flesh out a strategy/argument without drawing up sides. The noise to signal in these threads are deafening. When braced pistols get harassed into no longer being openly marketed, we all lose choice, economy of scale, and visible, everyday, out-of-the-closet use of practically sized guns. We focus on our individual impacts but the action is in the market reaction. I recommend every one with a stamped SBR put a brace on it for forthcoming public shooting and troll the fuck out of range Nazis, hall monitors, and every cunt who thinks his unsolicited fuddsplaining is an original thought. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 2:37:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s interesting that the fbatf denies form 1 suppressors made from solvent trap because they say the parts are already suppressors and therefore illegal, but your braced pistol is okey dokie as an unregistered sbr until your stamp comes in. It's like a textbook definition of "arbitrary and capricious". 
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Posted: 1/15/2023 3:15:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/temp-97.gif We should place bets. My money is on the douche on the far left. He looks like a "bro" kinda guy. https://preview.redd.it/3vu7b4lr7do71.jpg?auto=webp&s=a76a59b0ffa3ac90acb1b0c6a25ad3f3677af0b6 Or if not the one guy you picked, it would be the one far right that is cut off on the picture but you can see he is using his phone to post onto this website most likely. The balls of these agents though lately, they come in here as obvious as can be to post threads. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 3:50:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the caloric value of kiwi boot polish? Do you supplement with aft agent's jizz? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's one option, and it could get you a few years in prison, and cost you $50,000 to $100,000 to defend yourself in court. Some of us have a lot to lose. I didn't work my whole life so I could go to prison and have my life savings wiped out. If you got nothing to lose, no savings in the bank, no homeownership, no job, no family, then by all means proceed with not registering shit. What's the caloric value of kiwi boot polish? Do you supplement with aft agent's jizz? Hahahahaha ok that literally made me laugh out loud! I don’t comment too much, but fuck me that got me laughing and on a subject like this, thanks for that. FWIW, I agree with the option you laid out prior to this. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 4:58:37 PM EDT
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Fingerprints should be required to vote.
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Posted: 1/15/2023 5:04:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always hear and read this “will not comply” but I’ll be damned here we are and folks are well, complying. It's almost as if a message board with tens of thousands of members will be full of different opinions and actions. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 5:28:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fingerprints should be required to vote. I'd settle for a 4473 + NICS. Treat the right to vote like RKBA and see how badly the liberals bitch about it. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 8:01:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd settle for a 4473 + NICS. Treat the right to vote like RKBA and see how badly the liberals bitch about it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fingerprints should be required to vote. I'd settle for a 4473 + NICS. Treat the right to vote like RKBA and see how badly the liberals bitch about it. this would make me very very happy! |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 8:39:36 PM EDT
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Quoted: I e-filed an amnesty Form 1 today for a braced AR15 pistol to register it as an SBR. I filed as an Individual. After I completed the application, I got an email from the BATF saying I need to send in 2 fingerprint cards within 10 days. How do I get these fingerprints done? Also wanted to let you guys know all they ask for is a selfie picture of the applicant, and a picture of the markings on the receiver (not the gun showing the brace). |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 9:02:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: I e-filed an amnesty Form 1 today for a braced AR15 pistol to register it as an SBR. I filed as an Individual. After I completed the application, I got an email from the BATF saying I need to send in 2 fingerprint cards within 10 days. How do I get these fingerprints done? Also wanted to let you guys know all they ask for is a selfie picture of the applicant, and a picture of the markings on the receiver (not the gun showing the brace). . Just hold your middle finger up to your camera and they will be able to get it |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 9:11:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's almost as if a message board with tens of thousands of members will be full of different opinions and actions. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I always hear and read this “will not comply” but I’ll be damned here we are and folks are well, complying. It's almost as if a message board with tens of thousands of members will be full of different opinions and actions. @Towely Because it sounds great, and kinda moto, when you're in a forum with people who think similarly. Then you realize none of them will form up with you on Lexington and Concord Green, because they have jobs, and children, and lives they aren't willing to risk. Then you realize you're just alone, getting fucked over by the country you served faithfully. Edit: autocorrect |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 9:12:24 PM EDT
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ignoreing the hatera. order some cards and ink off of amazon. do them youraelf and send them in to the address.
All the haters here never did that for tgeir sbrs and suppressors so they dont know how. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 9:24:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ignoreing the hatera. order some cards and ink off of amazon. do them youraelf and send them in to the address. All the haters here never did that for tgeir sbrs and suppressors so they dont know how. Really? Silencer Shop has a nice little kiosk that makes getting suppressors pretty easy. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 4:59:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2023 5:12:44 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone who put a brace on a pistol was already complying, that was the whole point of the brace. Whole lot of tough guys in GD who complied with literally every part of the NFA but now think taking braces away should be everyone else’s hill to die on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: May your chains rest lightly. Everyone who put a brace on a pistol was already complying, that was the whole point of the brace. Whole lot of tough guys in GD who complied with literally every part of the NFA but now think taking braces away should be everyone else’s hill to die on. There's a whole lot of dumb guys who can't seem to wrap their head around the differences between complying with existing laws and something being made illegal after you own it then being forced to register your firearms or become a felon because feelz. All the other laws already existed and if I recall correctly, repeal the NFA and other 2nd infringement laws have been statements made around here from before I became a member. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 6:00:53 AM EDT
[#25]
Convert all your rifles to SBR and then your state bans SBRs.
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Posted: 1/16/2023 7:19:12 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The prospect of letting the ATF cuck you got you so excited that you couldn’t even bother to educate yourself on how to file a form 1? Pathetic  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 10:34:21 AM EDT
[#27]
I don't like the abuse of power coming from our government today. Corrupt Obama loyalists are imbedded throughout our police and judicial, and they have weaponized the govt against the people.
Sadly, in the end the corrupt DOJ will support the BATF and this rule will be enforceable under federal law, and anyone that didn't register within 120 days will be a felon. All of those felons are now low hanging fruit for the DOJ to arrest and prosecute. Imagine going up against the Biden DOJ for a gun crime being a conservative. They are going to destroy your life. You will lose your job and your family will be destroyed. You will have to spend $50-$100K defending yourself. And regardless of the fact you're just a good honest guy having fun with an illegal SBR, you're going to federal prison for 3-4 years. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 10:52:01 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't like the abuse of power coming from our government today. Corrupt Obama loyalists are imbedded throughout our police and judicial, and they have weaponized the govt against the people. Sadly, in the end the corrupt DOJ will support the BATF and this rule will be enforceable under federal law, and anyone that didn't register within 120 days will be a felon. All of those felons are now low hanging fruit for the DOJ to arrest and prosecute. Imagine going up against the Biden DOJ for a gun crime being a conservative. They are going to destroy your life. You will lose your job and your family will be destroyed. You will have to spend $50-$100K defending yourself. And regardless of the fact you're just a good honest guy having fun with an illegal SBR, you're going to federal prison for 3-4 years. There is at least one person who has contacted gun rights lawyers and organizations and volunteered to be a test case. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 10:57:27 AM EDT
[#29]
We need a sub for this mess
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:01:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't like the abuse of power coming from our government today. Corrupt Obama loyalists are imbedded throughout our police and judicial, and they have weaponized the govt against the people. Sadly, in the end the corrupt DOJ will support the BATF and this rule will be enforceable under federal law, and anyone that didn't register within 120 days will be a felon. All of those felons are now low hanging fruit for the DOJ to arrest and prosecute. Imagine going up against the Biden DOJ for a gun crime being a conservative. They are going to destroy your life. You will lose your job and your family will be destroyed. You will have to spend $50-$100K defending yourself. And regardless of the fact you're just a good honest guy having fun with an illegal SBR, you're going to federal prison for 3-4 years. So everyone knows the players, ATF is part of the DOJ. Started as part of Treasury, but got moved to DOJ in 2003. If you’ll look at the rule, it was signed by the AG. The AG heads up the DOJ. Blame Garland and be thankful the Senate never took up his nomination for the Supreme Court. He has shown himself to be nothing but a political hack. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:56:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't like the abuse of power coming from our government today. Corrupt Obama loyalists are imbedded throughout our police and judicial, and they have weaponized the govt against the people. Sadly, in the end the corrupt DOJ will support the BATF and this rule will be enforceable under federal law, and anyone that didn't register within 120 days will be a felon. All of those felons are now low hanging fruit for the DOJ to arrest and prosecute. Imagine going up against the Biden DOJ for a gun crime being a conservative. They are going to destroy your life. You will lose your job and your family will be destroyed. You will have to spend $50-$100K defending yourself. And regardless of the fact you're just a good honest guy having fun with an illegal SBR, you're going to federal prison for 3-4 years. Selling free stamps wasn't working, so you had to switch to fearmongering?  What a joke! 
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Posted: 1/16/2023 12:12:49 PM EDT
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So ATF did essentially the same thing in 1968 and allowed people to register MACHINEGUNS they had in their possession that were not registered previously. That affected considerably fewer people and would have been much easier for the ATF to go after those people using the amnesty registration as a sting (like a lot of people are alleging that this brace/SBR registration is). How'd that one turn out?
 What You Didn't Know About the 1968 Machine Gun Amnesty |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 12:55:44 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Selling free stamps wasn't working, so you had to switch to fearmongering? What a joke! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't like the abuse of power coming from our government today. Corrupt Obama loyalists are imbedded throughout our police and judicial, and they have weaponized the govt against the people. Sadly, in the end the corrupt DOJ will support the BATF and this rule will be enforceable under federal law, and anyone that didn't register within 120 days will be a felon. All of those felons are now low hanging fruit for the DOJ to arrest and prosecute. Imagine going up against the Biden DOJ for a gun crime being a conservative. They are going to destroy your life. You will lose your job and your family will be destroyed. You will have to spend $50-$100K defending yourself. And regardless of the fact you're just a good honest guy having fun with an illegal SBR, you're going to federal prison for 3-4 years. Selling free stamps wasn't working, so you had to switch to fearmongering? What a joke! Name one thing I said that isn't true. I am a realist and this is what happens when you get caught. No BS. If you want to risk it, go for it. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 1:09:29 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So ATF did essentially the same thing in 1968 and allowed people to register MACHINEGUNS they had in their possession that were not registered previously. That affected considerably fewer people and would have been much easier for the ATF to go after those people using the amnesty registration as a sting (like a lot of people are alleging that this brace/SBR registration is). How'd that one turn out?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnoSbLw_7hAYep. The guys that didn't register ended with a machinegun they have to hide for the rest of their lives, and if they get caught they're going to prison for a few years. The people that did register saw the value of that machinegun go up and up. Vietnam bring back registered AKs are going for $40K and up today. The unregistered machineguns are worth whatever the sum total of parts minus the reviewer will bring. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 1:27:56 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't like the abuse of power coming from our government today. Corrupt Obama loyalists are imbedded throughout our police and judicial, and they have weaponized the govt against the people. Sadly, in the end the corrupt DOJ will support the BATF and this rule will be enforceable under federal law, and anyone that didn't register within 120 days will be a felon. All of those felons are now low hanging fruit for the DOJ to arrest and prosecute. Imagine going up against the Biden DOJ for a gun crime being a conservative. They are going to destroy your life. You will lose your job and your family will be destroyed. You will have to spend $50-$100K defending yourself. And regardless of the fact you're just a good honest guy having fun with an illegal SBR, you're going to federal prison for 3-4 years. No one is going to federal prison. ATF agents may miss holidays should they push but this overreach isn't going to fly. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 1:32:10 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No one is going to federal prison. ATF agents may miss holidays should they push but this overreach isn't going to fly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't like the abuse of power coming from our government today. Corrupt Obama loyalists are imbedded throughout our police and judicial, and they have weaponized the govt against the people. Sadly, in the end the corrupt DOJ will support the BATF and this rule will be enforceable under federal law, and anyone that didn't register within 120 days will be a felon. All of those felons are now low hanging fruit for the DOJ to arrest and prosecute. Imagine going up against the Biden DOJ for a gun crime being a conservative. They are going to destroy your life. You will lose your job and your family will be destroyed. You will have to spend $50-$100K defending yourself. And regardless of the fact you're just a good honest guy having fun with an illegal SBR, you're going to federal prison for 3-4 years. No one is going to federal prison. ATF agents may miss holidays should they push but this overreach isn't going to fly. On this - I will agree. A manufacturer or dealer might (might). But no citizen is going to be in prison on a brace alone. At worst, the gun might be siezed. Those who switch to a stock, or are engaging in other items, may face different music. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 1:41:42 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No one is going to federal prison. ATF agents may miss holidays should they push but this overreach isn't going to fly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't like the abuse of power coming from our government today. Corrupt Obama loyalists are imbedded throughout our police and judicial, and they have weaponized the govt against the people. Sadly, in the end the corrupt DOJ will support the BATF and this rule will be enforceable under federal law, and anyone that didn't register within 120 days will be a felon. All of those felons are now low hanging fruit for the DOJ to arrest and prosecute. Imagine going up against the Biden DOJ for a gun crime being a conservative. They are going to destroy your life. You will lose your job and your family will be destroyed. You will have to spend $50-$100K defending yourself. And regardless of the fact you're just a good honest guy having fun with an illegal SBR, you're going to federal prison for 3-4 years. No one is going to federal prison. ATF agents may miss holidays should they push but this overreach isn't going to fly. 911 dispatcher gets 21 months in prison for unregistered SBR The guy was a 911 dispatcher for a police dept and got caught up in a FBI sting. The guy seems like a normal dude and was just having fun with his SBR shooting it on his property. He invited a girl to go shooting with him, and the girl was an undercover FBI agent. No criminal record and got a 21 month prison sentence even though his police buddies vouched for him. So what do you think they'll do to you for an illegal SBR if they put a well regarded 911 dispatcher in prison for 21 months? The anti 2nd amendment DOJ and anti 2nd amendment judges will destroy you for gun crimes. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/anatomy-of-an-fbi-terrorism-sting-convicting-a-former-911-operator-of-a-national-firearms-act-felony/ |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 1:48:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whats the difference if you register a pistol brace or SBR, fucking GD, sounds like the OP is getting a $200 stamp for nothing, even know this is all bullshit. How many SBRs do you have registered? Is that a photo of you kissing? Wow. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 4:18:31 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. The guys that didn't register ended with a machinegun they have to hide for the rest of their lives, and if they get caught they're going to prison for a few years. The people that did register saw the value of that machinegun go up and up. Vietnam bring back registered AKs are going for $40K and up today. The unregistered machineguns are worth whatever the sum total of parts minus the reviewer will bring. But, on machine guns, they said register now or never. With SBRs they are not saying that. Register a SBR now for free or 20 years from now for $200 |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 4:29:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 911 dispatcher gets 21 months in prison for unregistered SBR The guy was a 911 dispatcher for a police dept and got caught up in a FBI sting. The guy seems like a normal dude and was just having fun with his SBR shooting it on his property. He invited a girl to go shooting with him, and the girl was an undercover FBI agent. No criminal record and got a 21 month prison sentence even though his police buddies vouched for him. So what do you think they'll do to you for an illegal SBR if they put a well regarded 911 dispatcher in prison for 21 months? The anti 2nd amendment DOJ and anti 2nd amendment judges will destroy you for gun crimes. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/anatomy-of-an-fbi-terrorism-sting-convicting-a-former-911-operator-of-a-national-firearms-act-felony/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't like the abuse of power coming from our government today. Corrupt Obama loyalists are imbedded throughout our police and judicial, and they have weaponized the govt against the people. Sadly, in the end the corrupt DOJ will support the BATF and this rule will be enforceable under federal law, and anyone that didn't register within 120 days will be a felon. All of those felons are now low hanging fruit for the DOJ to arrest and prosecute. Imagine going up against the Biden DOJ for a gun crime being a conservative. They are going to destroy your life. You will lose your job and your family will be destroyed. You will have to spend $50-$100K defending yourself. And regardless of the fact you're just a good honest guy having fun with an illegal SBR, you're going to federal prison for 3-4 years. No one is going to federal prison. ATF agents may miss holidays should they push but this overreach isn't going to fly. 911 dispatcher gets 21 months in prison for unregistered SBR The guy was a 911 dispatcher for a police dept and got caught up in a FBI sting. The guy seems like a normal dude and was just having fun with his SBR shooting it on his property. He invited a girl to go shooting with him, and the girl was an undercover FBI agent. No criminal record and got a 21 month prison sentence even though his police buddies vouched for him. So what do you think they'll do to you for an illegal SBR if they put a well regarded 911 dispatcher in prison for 21 months? The anti 2nd amendment DOJ and anti 2nd amendment judges will destroy you for gun crimes. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/anatomy-of-an-fbi-terrorism-sting-convicting-a-former-911-operator-of-a-national-firearms-act-felony/ I doubt it will be the same with armbraces (willful criminal intent), but sure - if your point is that the shittalkers are playing a more dangerous game than discretion would advise, you get no disagreement from me. Also, odd story. How does one get hot FBI agents seducing you, and then going to the gun range to shoot your guns with you? Is there a form for that shit?? |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 6:06:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But, on machine guns, they said register now or never. With SBRs they are not saying that. Register a SBR now for free or 20 years from now for $200 Don't register your braced pistol within 120 days and you are in possession of an unregistered SBR, unless you remove/dispose of the brace Not even an SOT can register "contraband" |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 6:08:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, odd story. How does one get hot FBI agents seducing you, and then going to the gun range to shoot your guns with you? Is there a form for that shit?? This!!! |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 6:12:59 PM EDT
[#43]
i always thought braces looked like shit, i always did SBR.
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Posted: 1/16/2023 6:14:19 PM EDT
[#44]
where was his brace ?
Quote HistoryQuoted: 911 dispatcher gets 21 months in prison for unregistered SBR The guy was a 911 dispatcher for a police dept and got caught up in a FBI sting. The guy seems like a normal dude and was just having fun with his SBR shooting it on his property. He invited a girl to go shooting with him, and the girl was an undercover FBI agent. No criminal record and got a 21 month prison sentence even though his police buddies vouched for him. So what do you think they'll do to you for an illegal SBR if they put a well regarded 911 dispatcher in prison for 21 months? The anti 2nd amendment DOJ and anti 2nd amendment judges will destroy you for gun crimes. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/anatomy-of-an-fbi-terrorism-sting-convicting-a-former-911-operator-of-a-national-firearms-act-felony/ |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 6:17:15 PM EDT
[#45]
Are we handing in ARs yet??
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Posted: 1/16/2023 6:28:04 PM EDT
[#46]
no just braces.
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are we handing in ARs yet?? |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 6:55:00 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't like the abuse of power coming from our government today. Corrupt Obama loyalists are imbedded throughout our police and judicial, and they have weaponized the govt against the people. Sadly, in the end the corrupt DOJ will support the BATF and this rule will be enforceable under federal law, and anyone that didn't register within 120 days will be a felon. All of those felons are now low hanging fruit for the DOJ to arrest and prosecute. Imagine going up against the Biden DOJ for a gun crime being a conservative. They are going to destroy your life. You will lose your job and your family will be destroyed. You will have to spend $50-$100K defending yourself. And regardless of the fact you're just a good honest guy having fun with an illegal SBR, you're going to federal prison for 3-4 years. So you volunteer that you have a SBR, for the eventual AWB and confiscation? |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 6:57:42 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you volunteer that you have a SBR, for the eventual AWB and confiscation? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't like the abuse of power coming from our government today. Corrupt Obama loyalists are imbedded throughout our police and judicial, and they have weaponized the govt against the people. Sadly, in the end the corrupt DOJ will support the BATF and this rule will be enforceable under federal law, and anyone that didn't register within 120 days will be a felon. All of those felons are now low hanging fruit for the DOJ to arrest and prosecute. Imagine going up against the Biden DOJ for a gun crime being a conservative. They are going to destroy your life. You will lose your job and your family will be destroyed. You will have to spend $50-$100K defending yourself. And regardless of the fact you're just a good honest guy having fun with an illegal SBR, you're going to federal prison for 3-4 years. So you volunteer that you have a SBR, for the eventual AWB and confiscation? I have 12 tax stamps. The BATF already knows that I have SBRs. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 7:05:53 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt it will be the same with armbraces (willful criminal intent), but sure - if your point is that the shittalkers are playing a more dangerous game than discretion would advise, you get no disagreement from me. Also, odd story. How does one get hot FBI agents seducing you, and then going to the gun range to shoot your guns with you? Is there a form for that shit?? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't like the abuse of power coming from our government today. Corrupt Obama loyalists are imbedded throughout our police and judicial, and they have weaponized the govt against the people. Sadly, in the end the corrupt DOJ will support the BATF and this rule will be enforceable under federal law, and anyone that didn't register within 120 days will be a felon. All of those felons are now low hanging fruit for the DOJ to arrest and prosecute. Imagine going up against the Biden DOJ for a gun crime being a conservative. They are going to destroy your life. You will lose your job and your family will be destroyed. You will have to spend $50-$100K defending yourself. And regardless of the fact you're just a good honest guy having fun with an illegal SBR, you're going to federal prison for 3-4 years. No one is going to federal prison. ATF agents may miss holidays should they push but this overreach isn't going to fly. 911 dispatcher gets 21 months in prison for unregistered SBR The guy was a 911 dispatcher for a police dept and got caught up in a FBI sting. The guy seems like a normal dude and was just having fun with his SBR shooting it on his property. He invited a girl to go shooting with him, and the girl was an undercover FBI agent. No criminal record and got a 21 month prison sentence even though his police buddies vouched for him. So what do you think they'll do to you for an illegal SBR if they put a well regarded 911 dispatcher in prison for 21 months? The anti 2nd amendment DOJ and anti 2nd amendment judges will destroy you for gun crimes. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/anatomy-of-an-fbi-terrorism-sting-convicting-a-former-911-operator-of-a-national-firearms-act-felony/ I doubt it will be the same with armbraces (willful criminal intent), but sure - if your point is that the shittalkers are playing a more dangerous game than discretion would advise, you get no disagreement from me. Also, odd story. How does one get hot FBI agents seducing you, and then going to the gun range to shoot your guns with you? Is there a form for that shit?? Exactly! It is a dangerous game! The Biden administration has clearly stated numerous times that they are going after gun crimes. They also said numerous times that white Trump supporters are the greatest threat to democracy. You do the math on how it ends up when a white conservative is caught with an illegal gun. Also the DOJ loves to put White people in prison, because it makes their "racist" Black incarceration rate not look as bad. The DOJ takes a lot of heat from the race baiters about the high percentage of Black people in federal prisons. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 7:15:17 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But, on machine guns, they said register now or never. With SBRs they are not saying that. Register a SBR now for free or 20 years from now for $200 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep. The guys that didn't register ended with a machinegun they have to hide for the rest of their lives, and if they get caught they're going to prison for a few years. The people that did register saw the value of that machinegun go up and up. Vietnam bring back registered AKs are going for $40K and up today. The unregistered machineguns are worth whatever the sum total of parts minus the reviewer will bring. But, on machine guns, they said register now or never. With SBRs they are not saying that. Register a SBR now for free or 20 years from now for $200 |
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