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Posted: 1/29/2022 11:54:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But you can't have big guys either. To have a hatch that AJ would fit through, you'd basically need to make a convertible out of the tank. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Norway too https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3UfBqU0xbeI/maxresdefault.jpg https://www.defesanet.com.br/site/upload/news_image/2017/02/34716.jpg Truth is everything on a tank is heavy and all the work requires a lot of physical strength. Small male crewmen suck because they have a harder time putting their ass into the work, and so women would make tank life even harder than it already is, but that's a double entendre and you can take that both ways Like she would 
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Posted: 1/29/2022 11:55:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2022 11:56:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, the IDF has female tankers Yes, I am jealous and sad that we don't https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/06/1_2_1-1024x640.jpg So…… What’s the terminology for the train they pull on the TC? |
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Posted: 1/29/2022 11:56:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It has more to do with free time and prioritizing it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have several bikes that are gather dust It has more to do with free time and prioritizing it I found this old girl laying around today and decided that starting tomorrow morning I'm getting back into AK irons like we used to do religiously 
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Posted: 1/29/2022 11:58:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So What's the terminology for the train they pull on the TC? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, the IDF has female tankers Yes, I am jealous and sad that we don't https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/06/1_2_1-1024x640.jpg So What's the terminology for the train they pull on the TC? Black Six Out |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:00:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I failed you guys with the batch I sent out this year So weak Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Skipping the rest I spent like 11 posts talking about how cool you are and the things you have said in 24/365 threads that have made me realize that you have valuable insight that makes a difference to me https://c.tenor.com/FWf9XJAeA-IAAAAM/accurate-id4.gif I failed you guys with the batch I sent out this year So weak I guess I’m weak because I thought it was about perfect 
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:01:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Guidons, Guidons, Guidons! Move to and occupy objective Tango Charlie. Move. Move now Black Six Out Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes, the IDF has female tankers Yes, I am jealous and sad that we don't https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/06/1_2_1-1024x640.jpg So What's the terminology for the train they pull on the TC? Black Six Out |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:01:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But you can't have big guys either. To have a hatch that AJ would fit through, you'd basically need to make a convertible out of the tank. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Norway too https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3UfBqU0xbeI/maxresdefault.jpg https://www.defesanet.com.br/site/upload/news_image/2017/02/34716.jpg Truth is everything on a tank is heavy and all the work requires a lot of physical strength. Small male crewmen suck because they have a harder time putting their ass into the work, and so women would make tank life even harder than it already is, but that's a double entendre and you can take that both ways Like she would That’s just mean Tell me more |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:02:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Truth is I have strong feelings about the reality of women in the military and the combat arms, but being on a tank is one place where they could probably excel, even if a lot of the routine tasks sucked or took way longer. It would be a risk in combat if shit went south and you had to break track under a time crunch because Ivan was about to overrun your position, but stuff like that isn't common. There would be downsides but overall I think for a real fighting crew they could probably do it right, as much as any crew with the right training and TC leadership could. Plenty of male crews suck ass as it is and I don't think female crews would be automatically worse |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:02:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's just mean Tell me more Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Norway too https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3UfBqU0xbeI/maxresdefault.jpg https://www.defesanet.com.br/site/upload/news_image/2017/02/34716.jpg Truth is everything on a tank is heavy and all the work requires a lot of physical strength. Small male crewmen suck because they have a harder time putting their ass into the work, and so women would make tank life even harder than it already is, but that's a double entendre and you can take that both ways Like she would That's just mean Tell me more 
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:03:06 AM EDT
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If people got slapped every time they said "over and out" there wouldn't be a problem for long.
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:03:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't disagree. However, I am not real certain that today's .mil under General "Box O'Donuts" Milley and Secretary Darth Vader will provide the right training and leadership necessary to make things work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Truth is I have strong feelings about the reality of women in the military and the combat arms, but being on a tank is one place where they could probably excel, even if a lot of the routine tasks sucked or took way longer. It would be a risk in combat if shit went south and you had to break track under a time crunch because Ivan was about to overrun your position, but stuff like that isn't common. There would be downsides but overall I think for a real fighting crew they could probably do it right, as much as any crew with the right training and TC leadership could. Plenty of male crews suck ass as it is and I don't think female crews would be automatically worse I have no idea what our modern military can produce and have very little faith any of it is worth a fuck anymore |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:04:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:04:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If people got slapped every time they said "over and out" there wouldn't be a problem for long. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:05:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't disagree. However, I am not real certain that today's .mil under General "Box O'Donuts" Milley and Secretary Darth Vader will provide the right training and leadership necessary to make things work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Truth is I have strong feelings about the reality of women in the military and the combat arms, but being on a tank is one place where they could probably excel, even if a lot of the routine tasks sucked or took way longer. It would be a risk in combat if shit went south and you had to break track under a time crunch because Ivan was about to overrun your position, but stuff like that isn't common. There would be downsides but overall I think for a real fighting crew they could probably do it right, as much as any crew with the right training and TC leadership could. Plenty of male crews suck ass as it is and I don't think female crews would be automatically worse |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:06:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A weak military is ripe for defeat. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Truth is I have strong feelings about the reality of women in the military and the combat arms, but being on a tank is one place where they could probably excel, even if a lot of the routine tasks sucked or took way longer. It would be a risk in combat if shit went south and you had to break track under a time crunch because Ivan was about to overrun your position, but stuff like that isn't common. There would be downsides but overall I think for a real fighting crew they could probably do it right, as much as any crew with the right training and TC leadership could. Plenty of male crews suck ass as it is and I don't think female crews would be automatically worse  |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:07:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If people got slapped every time they said "over and out" there wouldn't be a problem for long. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:09:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can we say "Hey Bandit, got your ears on? What's the 20 on dem smokies?" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If people got slapped every time they said "over and out" there wouldn't be a problem for long. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:09:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shoot more. Priority number 1 I found this old girl laying around today and decided that starting tomorrow morning I'm getting back into AK irons like we used to do religiously https://zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/tactical/UW-74rig_SLR105.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have several bikes that are gather dust It has more to do with free time and prioritizing it I found this old girl laying around today and decided that starting tomorrow morning I'm getting back into AK irons like we used to do religiously https://zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/tactical/UW-74rig_SLR105.JPG  I should by some optics to make it easier to shoot And start a website |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:12:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:13:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Spot on I have no idea what our modern military can produce and have very little faith any of it is worth a fuck anymore |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:17:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI like it. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:17:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So did Brady fake retire or is it real? Fake news. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:20:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Truth is I have strong feelings about the reality of women in the military and the combat arms, but being on a tank is one place where they could probably excel, even if a lot of the routine tasks sucked or took way longer. It would be a risk in combat if shit went south and you had to break track under a time crunch because Ivan was about to overrun your position, but stuff like that isn't common. There would be downsides but overall I think for a real fighting crew they could probably do it right, as much as any crew with the right training and TC leadership could. Plenty of male crews suck ass as it is and I don't think female crews would be automatically worse Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes, the IDF has female tankers Yes, I am jealous and sad that we don't https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/06/1_2_1-1024x640.jpg They just need to synchronize that time of the month with the commie invasion and Ivan would be in big trouble. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:31:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They just need to synchronize that time of the month with the commie invasion and Ivan would be in big trouble. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes, the IDF has female tankers Yes, I am jealous and sad that we don't https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/06/1_2_1-1024x640.jpg They just need to synchronize that time of the month with the commie invasion and Ivan would be in big trouble.  I can assure you that putting 4 guys in the hatch for weeks on end, limited showers, no privacy, inept leadership, broke-dick tanks, infernally hot Ft Hood weather and all that .mil chow tearing up your insides day after day after day after day without end pretty much gauranteed we wanted to fucking murder each other and every living thing we came into contact with |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:32:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still a lot of good folks- handicapped by a system that selects the wrong leadership in general. Too much to go in-depth here, but I believe the system selects GO/FOs that do well in the imperial court of DC, but not in the field winning wars. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Spot on I have no idea what our modern military can produce and have very little faith any of it is worth a fuck anymore |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:33:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Put the 12.5 together today https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/259822/E6D80282-184F-421C-87B0-97CA108DEF34_jpe-2259729.JPG |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:33:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They aren't alone with that problem I can assure you that putting 4 guys in the hatch for weeks on end, limited showers, no privacy, inept leadership, broke-dick tanks, infernally hot Ft Hood weather and all that .mil chow tearing up your insides day after day after day after day without end pretty much gauranteed we wanted to fucking murder each other and every living thing we came into contact with Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes, the IDF has female tankers Yes, I am jealous and sad that we don't https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/06/1_2_1-1024x640.jpg They just need to synchronize that time of the month with the commie invasion and Ivan would be in big trouble. I can assure you that putting 4 guys in the hatch for weeks on end, limited showers, no privacy, inept leadership, broke-dick tanks, infernally hot Ft Hood weather and all that .mil chow tearing up your insides day after day after day after day without end pretty much gauranteed we wanted to fucking murder each other and every living thing we came into contact with So the training worked and you would have been effective if things went hot? 
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:40:07 AM EDT
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I like all the tank talk because I learn from it.
I didn't serve. My brother has been doing Army shit for 43.5 years but it's all infantry/medic/SF/cadet training. My mother was in the army in the 1950's but that was using punch card computers in West Germany. My father was in the air force for a couple of years before they realized he was a pedo. I almost went down that path, I spent a couple of couple of weekends away getting evaluated for the UK version of ROTC but I guess my problem solving skills didn't fit the mould of what they were looking for. My life could have been very different and probably a lot less successful if they accepted me.
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:40:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They just need to synchronize that time of the month with the commie invasion and Ivan would be in big trouble.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:41:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We can only hope that the tide has turned against the left and we can start taking our instituitions back For example, how much better would the Yankee soldiers have done if Grant was in charge in 1861, instead of McClellan? |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:42:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like all the tank talk because I learn from it. I didn't serve. My brother has been doing Army shit for 43.5 years but it's all infantry/medic/SF/cadet training. My mother was in the army in the 1950's but that was using punch card computers in West Germany. My father was in the air force for a couple of years before they realized he was a pedo. I almost went down that path, I spent a couple of couple of weekends away getting evaluated for the UK version of ROTC but I guess my problem solving skills didn't fit the mould of what they were looking for. My life could have been very different and probably a lot less successful if they accepted me.
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:43:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They just need to synchronize that time of the month with the commie invasion and Ivan would be in big trouble. What if all your assigned women still have their OEM twig and berries? |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:46:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like all the tank talk because I learn from it. I didn't serve. My brother has been doing Army shit for 43.5 years but it's all infantry/medic/SF/cadet training. My mother was in the army in the 1950's but that was using punch card computers in West Germany. My father was in the air force for a couple of years before they realized he was a pedo. I almost went down that path, I spent a couple of couple of weekends away getting evaluated for the UK version of ROTC but I guess my problem solving skills didn't fit the mould of what they were looking for. My life could have been very different and probably a lot less successful if they accepted me. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:54:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: U woulda been a mess cook. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I like all the tank talk because I learn from it. I didn't serve. My brother has been doing Army shit for 43.5 years but it's all infantry/medic/SF/cadet training. My mother was in the army in the 1950's but that was using punch card computers in West Germany. My father was in the air force for a couple of years before they realized he was a pedo. I almost went down that path, I spent a couple of couple of weekends away getting evaluated for the UK version of ROTC but I guess my problem solving skills didn't fit the mould of what they were looking for. My life could have been very different and probably a lot less successful if they accepted me.To be fair, I'm a kickass cook.
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:54:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Plot twist: What if all your assigned women still have their OEM twig and berries? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They just need to synchronize that time of the month with the commie invasion and Ivan would be in big trouble. What if all your assigned women still have their OEM twig and berries? Then they're not women??? right??? or am I old and out of touch? |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:55:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You could have been the modern day Lord Cornwallis! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I like all the tank talk because I learn from it. I didn't serve. My brother has been doing Army shit for 43.5 years but it's all infantry/medic/SF/cadet training. My mother was in the army in the 1950's but that was using punch card computers in West Germany. My father was in the air force for a couple of years before they realized he was a pedo. I almost went down that path, I spent a couple of couple of weekends away getting evaluated for the UK version of ROTC but I guess my problem solving skills didn't fit the mould of what they were looking for. My life could have been very different and probably a lot less successful if they accepted me.Hold on, didn't he lose? |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:58:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So the training worked and you would have been effective if things went hot? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes, the IDF has female tankers Yes, I am jealous and sad that we don't https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/06/1_2_1-1024x640.jpg They just need to synchronize that time of the month with the commie invasion and Ivan would be in big trouble. I can assure you that putting 4 guys in the hatch for weeks on end, limited showers, no privacy, inept leadership, broke-dick tanks, infernally hot Ft Hood weather and all that .mil chow tearing up your insides day after day after day after day without end pretty much gauranteed we wanted to fucking murder each other and every living thing we came into contact with So the training worked and you would have been effective if things went hot?  |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 12:59:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like all the tank talk because I learn from it. I didn't serve. My brother has been doing Army shit for 43.5 years but it's all infantry/medic/SF/cadet training. My mother was in the army in the 1950's but that was using punch card computers in West Germany. My father was in the air force for a couple of years before they realized he was a pedo. I almost went down that path, I spent a couple of couple of weekends away getting evaluated for the UK version of ROTC but I guess my problem solving skills didn't fit the mould of what they were looking for. My life could have been very different and probably a lot less successful if they accepted me. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 1:02:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then they're not women??? right??? or am I old and out of touch? |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 1:03:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hold on, didn't he lose? |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 1:05:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Perhaps so. But this is not a new problem. There are plenty of generals in history that did well in peacetime, and not so much in war. Also plenty of generals that won battles, but did not do well at HQ or the King's court, or whatever. For example, how much better would the Yankee soldiers have done if Grant was in charge in 1861, instead of McClellan? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We can only hope that the tide has turned against the left and we can start taking our instituitions back For example, how much better would the Yankee soldiers have done if Grant was in charge in 1861, instead of McClellan? I mentioned my company XO 1LT Dukeman, who was a perfect example of a soldiers soldier in the field. He was aggressive, took no shit and had a keen eye for beating the fuck out of the opposition but he couldn't do powerpoint or say the stupid shit he needed to say around weak ass ROTC officers that made up most of our senior leadership and he paid the price I'd have followed that guy on a one way trip across the LD/LC in wartime, but in peacetime he got railroaded til he got out, all because what mattered in peacetime was bullshit and he (as well as the rest of us) knew it |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 1:06:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Plot twist: What if all your assigned women still have their OEM twig and berries? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They just need to synchronize that time of the month with the commie invasion and Ivan would be in big trouble. What if all your assigned women still have their OEM twig and berries?
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Posted: 1/30/2022 1:08:36 AM EDT
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So why does the Abrams use the 120mm smoothbore you ask?
Because they don't make a 121mm Womp womp |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 1:12:08 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair, I'm a kickass cook. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 1:13:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So why does the Abrams use the 120mm smoothbore you ask? Because they don't make a 121mm Womp womp |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 1:16:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/30/2022 1:26:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't speak about Grant or McClellan specifically but I agree that what works in peacetime is usually not what we need in war. The US has a long history of fixing itself in a hurry once the shooting starts, as long as the political will to win is there (WW2 being an example, Korea as well, but Vietnam not so much) I mentioned my company XO 1LT Dukeman, who was a perfect example of a soldiers soldier in the field. He was aggressive, took no shit and had a keen eye for beating the fuck out of the opposition but he couldn't do powerpoint or say the stupid shit he needed to say around weak ass ROTC officers that made up most of our senior leadership and he paid the price I'd have followed that guy on a one way trip across the LD/LC in wartime, but in peacetime he got railroaded til he got out, all because what mattered in peacetime was bullshit and he (as well as the rest of us) knew it However, the US used to at least fire the guys that turned out incompetent. For example, the very-little known [for good reason] Major General James E Chaney, USAAF. 1908 USMA grad- infantryman turned pilot. Promoted MG in 1940, and assigned as observer to the UK in May, 1941. From Jan-Jun 1942, he was the commander of all US Army forces in the UK. All well and good. Except that he ran his HQ on a M-F, 9-5 basis and was not effective in leadership. Especially when compared to his successor- guy by the name of Eisenhower. Chaney got sent back to the US, given a training command job and never promoted again and retired at the end of the war. Kind of a soft landing there for him, I guess. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 1:30:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You must be old and anti-WTFBBQ. All you have to do now is say that you are a woman, and poof, you are. Now you can win women's sporting events and go into women's locker rooms. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Then they're not women??? right??? or am I old and out of touch? I wish that had been a thing when I was 16. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 1:32:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So why does the Abrams use the 120mm smoothbore you ask? Because they don't make a 121mm Womp womp Related question: Whatever happened to the Shillelagh and why wasn't it more successful? no combat use? |
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