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Here is the organizer who started the rally to remove the statue.. https://southernvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Loan_headshot-207x300.jpg Loan Tran (Director, Youth Organizing Institute | Communications, SVA) [email protected] they/them/theirs Loan Tran is a queer, bilingual writer and educator of color based Durham, NC. Loan has worked on issues of migrant justice, LGBTQ liberation, economic and racial justice and for an end to all interpersonal violence. While in High school, they co-managed the “Drop the i-word” Campaign in Charlotte, NC to challenge media representation of undocumented immigrants and organized as a part of the March On Wall Street South Coalition that mobilized thousands to protest corrupt politics and corporate greed. Loan was a featured speaker at the Historic Thousands on Jones St. (HKonJ)/Moral March and has had their writing and commentary featured on Black Girl Dangerous, Waging Non-Violence, {Young}ist, New York Times and The Advocate, among others. Following the passage of HB2, Loan became a spokesperson and leader in the repeal effort. They served in the leadership body of the QTPOCC (Queer and Trans People of Color Collective) that called for actions at the governor’s mansion, and across the state. Loan was one of four people who participated in civil disobedience after the passage of the bill. Loan is a former board member of G.L.S.E.N. and current board member at the Highlander Research and Education Center. They also serve on the boards the Emergent Fund, a new effort to new LGBT initiatives. In 2016, Loan helped to create the HB2 Queer Mobilization Fund to move resources for resistance to HB2 led by queer and trans people of color They are the Director of the Youth Organizing Institute and the Communications Director for the Southern Vision alliance. Loan is an expert in organizational development, and popular education-style trainings. Loan envisions a movement for liberation and justice to be one that leaves no one behind so one day we can all be our authentic selves, lead full lives and be free. Sure would suck if any good old boys found they were close by... View Quote |
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Is this one of those "The South will rise again" posts? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Fucking pawns, every last one of them. View Quote But trump wins, and keeps winning, and the only thing these animals can do to lash out is to destroy confederate monuments. Meanwhile, in Seattle, they keep the lenin statue going strong. Oh, they'll dress him up every now and then as a soft form of vandalism, kind of a wink/nod to say "we don't support him, but we support him". Now, because somebody got run over at a protest likely staged by them, every mayor and governor in the South is marching to take these things down. Why? Because they're pawns, playing a game of who can kill America the fastest. It still surprises me, though, how quickly the Left can mobilize. They are lightyears ahead of us in logistics. Sadly, logistics always win wars. |
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I know that pointing this out makes me a Commie-loving Antifa America hater or something, but consider what these statues might actually be about.
A lot of these Confederate memorials went up during two eras - Jim Crow (1890's to 1930's), and the Civil Rights Era (1950's and 60's). They weren't put up because a bunch of crippled Confederate veterans scraped together their last dimes to remember their beloved commanders. The statues were put up by state legislatures in large numbers during two very specific racially charged periods. You can theorize about the motives, I suppose. Many people think they were put up to serve as physical reminders so that everyone would know their place, and stay in it. Other people think they are memorials to battlefield valor and heritage. The timing, though, seems a little suspicious - not enough to damn by itself, but context is important. You can look at the dates yourself, see what you think. List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America What do I think? I'd say quietly retire them before or after the protests have died down. Let them go to private collections, or perhaps some well-heeled alt-Right nottanazi can open the "Otto Skorzeny Memorial Museum for Warriors of Dubious Causes". Don't let them turn into victory points for Nazis or Commies. And yes, 99% of the controversy is being ginned up by the left, the Dems, and the media for political advantage. I get that. I don't know what to do about that. |
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As long as they are tearing down statues, here's one that needs to be destroyed and melted down. This tyrant removed Americans from their homes and livelihoods and imprisoned them simply because of their ethnicity. http://dkiel2.com/EastCoast2002/FDRFala158.jpg View Quote |
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If I can quote a few of our fellow members from a few years ago when this all was starting...
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The South is the only thing standing in the way of the Left. View Quote There are no more bullet-riddled civil wars. 'conservatives' have prepared for a war that will never come in the form that they envisioned. |
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Except the south is too busy screaming muh rights on the internet from rural houses miles away from where they need to be. The left doesnt give a shit about 'the south' as they can do what they want where it matters; in the city. There are no more bullet-riddled civil wars. 'conservatives' have prepared for a war that will never come in the form that they envisioned. View Quote |
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I know that pointing this out makes me a Commie-loving Antifa America hater or something, but consider what these statues might actually be about. A lot of these Confederate memorials went up during two eras - Jim Crow (1890's to 1930's), and the Civil Rights Era (1950's and 60's). They weren't put up because a bunch of crippled Confederate veterans scraped together their last dimes to remember their beloved commanders. The statues were put up by state legislatures in large numbers during two very specific racially charged periods. You can theorize about the motives, I suppose. Many people think they were put up to serve as physical reminders so that everyone would know their place, and stay in it. Other people think they are memorials to battlefield valor and heritage. The timing, though, seems a little suspicious - not enough to damn by itself, but context is important. You can look at the dates yourself, see what you think. List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America What do I think? I'd say quietly retire them before or after the protests have died down. Let them go to private collections, or perhaps some well-heeled alt-Right nottanazi can open the "Otto Skorzeny Memorial Museum for Warriors of Dubious Causes". Don't let them turn into victory points for Nazis or Commies. And yes, 99% of the controversy is being ginned up by the left, the Dems, and the media for political advantage. I get that. I don't know what to do about that. View Quote |
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http://www.wral.com/news/video/16880579/ Video of its demise:. http://nbc4i.com/2017/08/14/protesters-topple-confederate-statue-in-durham-north-carolina/ Reminds me of this: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/142492/Screenshot_20170814-192919-280471.JPG Not this statue, but similar View Quote The No Trump and No KKK sign is a total joke. I voted for Trump and am against the KKK. |
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At first I went literal but then I thought NC doesn't have that many people let alone enough people willing to kill people over statues. So then I was just left with posturing View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Only if you try to read that into it. So then I was just left with posturing I thought his point was obvious, but maybe it wasn't. |
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I know that pointing this out makes me a Commie-loving Antifa America hater or something, but consider what these statues might actually be about. A lot of these Confederate memorials went up during two eras - Jim Crow (1890's to 1930's), and the Civil Rights Era (1950's and 60's). They weren't put up because a bunch of crippled Confederate veterans scraped together their last dimes to remember their beloved commanders. The statues were put up by state legislatures in large numbers during two very specific racially charged periods. You can theorize about the motives, I suppose. Many people think they were put up to serve as physical reminders so that everyone would know their place, and stay in it. Other people think they are memorials to battlefield valor and heritage. The timing, though, seems a little suspicious - not enough to damn by itself, but context is important. You can look at the dates yourself, see what you think. List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America What do I think? I'd say quietly retire them before or after the protests have died down. Let them go to private collections, or perhaps some well-heeled alt-Right nottanazi can open the "Otto Skorzeny Memorial Museum for Warriors of Dubious Causes". Don't let them turn into victory points for Nazis or Commies. And yes, 99% of the controversy is being ginned up by the left, the Dems, and the media for political advantage. I get that. I don't know what to do about that. View Quote |
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Meanwhile in Seattle,, no one is tearing this down http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/lenin.jpg View Quote |
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Here is the organizer who started the rally to remove the statue.. https://southernvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Loan_headshot-207x300.jpg Loan Tran (Director, Youth Organizing Institute | Communications, SVA) [email protected] they/them/theirs Loan Tran is a queer, bilingual writer and educator of color based Durham, NC. Loan has worked on issues of migrant justice, LGBTQ liberation, economic and racial justice and for an end to all interpersonal violence. While in High school, they co-managed the “Drop the i-word” Campaign in Charlotte, NC to challenge media representation of undocumented immigrants and organized as a part of the March On Wall Street South Coalition that mobilized thousands to protest corrupt politics and corporate greed. Loan was a featured speaker at the Historic Thousands on Jones St. (HKonJ)/Moral March and has had their writing and commentary featured on Black Girl Dangerous, Waging Non-Violence, {Young}ist, New York Times and The Advocate, among others. Following the passage of HB2, Loan became a spokesperson and leader in the repeal effort. They served in the leadership body of the QTPOCC (Queer and Trans People of Color Collective) that called for actions at the governor’s mansion, and across the state. Loan was one of four people who participated in civil disobedience after the passage of the bill. Loan is a former board member of G.L.S.E.N. and current board member at the Highlander Research and Education Center. They also serve on the boards the Emergent Fund, a new effort to new LGBT initiatives. In 2016, Loan helped to create the HB2 Queer Mobilization Fund to move resources for resistance to HB2 led by queer and trans people of color They are the Director of the Youth Organizing Institute and the Communications Director for the Southern Vision alliance. Loan is an expert in organizational development, and popular education-style trainings. Loan envisions a movement for liberation and justice to be one that leaves no one behind so one day we can all be our authentic selves, lead full lives and be free. Sure would suck if any good old boys found they were close by... View Quote |
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If NC doesn't have that many people, the 41 other states that have even fewer people must be downright desolate. I thought his point was obvious, but maybe it wasn't. View Quote While people are passionate about things few are willing to literally kill people, especially over something like a statue. An invasion of our country by the Uniformed military of a hostile nation, Yamamoto is spot on. A statue... Not so much |
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Here is the organizer who started the rally to remove the statue.. https://southernvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Loan_headshot-207x300.jpg Loan Tran (Director, Youth Organizing Institute | Communications, SVA) [email protected] they/them/theirs Loan Tran is a queer, bilingual writer and educator of color based Durham, NC. Loan has worked on issues of migrant justice, LGBTQ liberation, economic and racial justice and for an end to all interpersonal violence. While in High school, they co-managed the “Drop the i-word” Campaign in Charlotte, NC to challenge media representation of undocumented immigrants and organized as a part of the March On Wall Street South Coalition that mobilized thousands to protest corrupt politics and corporate greed. Loan was a featured speaker at the Historic Thousands on Jones St. (HKonJ)/Moral March and has had their writing and commentary featured on Black Girl Dangerous, Waging Non-Violence, {Young}ist, New York Times and The Advocate, among others. Following the passage of HB2, Loan became a spokesperson and leader in the repeal effort. They served in the leadership body of the QTPOCC (Queer and Trans People of Color Collective) that called for actions at the governor’s mansion, and across the state. Loan was one of four people who participated in civil disobedience after the passage of the bill. Loan is a former board member of G.L.S.E.N. and current board member at the Highlander Research and Education Center. They also serve on the boards the Emergent Fund, a new effort to new LGBT initiatives. In 2016, Loan helped to create the HB2 Queer Mobilization Fund to move resources for resistance to HB2 led by queer and trans people of color They are the Director of the Youth Organizing Institute and the Communications Director for the Southern Vision alliance. Loan is an expert in organizational development, and popular education-style trainings. Loan envisions a movement for liberation and justice to be one that leaves no one behind so one day we can all be our authentic selves, lead full lives and be free. Sure would suck if any good old boys found they were close by... View Quote FB profile |
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There was going to be an attempt in Charlottesville today. I think the perpetrators might have gotten sidetracked when the media showed up and got them up close on camera. :)
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I repeat. Nobody gave a damn for over a hundred years. Nobody. And suddenly, it becomes a year-defining issue? C'mon man, you can't be this naïve. View Quote As far as heritage goes, I'm only sympathetic to a point. Graveyards and battlefield memorials, fine. |
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http://www.wral.com/news/video/16880579/ Video of its demise:. http://nbc4i.com/2017/08/14/protesters-topple-confederate-statue-in-durham-north-carolina/ Reminds me of this: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/142492/Screenshot_20170814-192919-280471.JPG Not this statue, but similar View Quote JOY TO THE WORLD -- GOODBYE MOTHER FUCKER |
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Meanwhile in Seattle,, no one is tearing this down http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/lenin.jpg View Quote The Statue of Lenin is a 16-foot (4.9 m) bronze sculpture of Communist revolutionary Vladimir Lenin located in the Fremont neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Initially installed in Czechoslovakia in 1988, the sculpture was removed after the Velvet Revolution and brought to the United States in the 1990s. Lewis E. Carpenter, an English teacher in Poprad originally from Issaquah, Washington, found the monumental statue lying in a scrapyard ready to be sold for the price of the bronze; Carpenter had met and befriended Venkov while in Czechoslovakia. In close collaboration with a local journalist and good friend, Tomáš Fülöpp, Carpenter approached the city officials with a claim that despite its current unpopularity, the sculpture was still a work of art worth preserving, and he offered to buy it for $13,000. After many bureaucratic hurdles, he finally signed a contract with the mayor on March 16, 1993. With the help of Venkov, the statue was cut into three pieces and shipped to the United States at a total cost of $40,000. Carpenter financed much of that via mortgaging his home. The statue arrived in Issaquah in August 1993, and Carpenter planned to install it in front of a Slovak restaurant. He died in a car accident in February 1994, during public debates on whether to display the statue in Issaquah that ended in rejection from the suburb's residents. After Carpenter's death, his family planned to sell the statue to a Fremont foundry to be melted down and repurposed into a new piece. The foundry's founder, Peter Bevis, sought to instead display the statue in Fremont, and agreed to have the Fremont Chamber of Commerce hold the sculpture in trust until a buyer is found. The statue was unveiled on June 3, 1995, at the corner of Evanston Avenue North and North 34th Street, one block south of a salvaged Cold War rocket fuselage, another artistic Fremont attraction. ... The Carpenter family continues to seek a buyer for the statue. As of 2015 the asking price is $250,000, up from a 1996 price tag of $150,000 ... The BBC highlighted Seattle's Lenin statue. after protesters removed Lenin statues in Ukraine. Zygimantas Pavilionis, envoy to Washington D.C. from Lithuania, referred to the 2014 Russian military intervention in Ukraine by saying, "In Seattle, I saw that ugly monument to Lenin there" and warning that "one day you will wake up and instead of 'Go Huskies'" Seattle residents will instead see Russian license plates on military vehicles in their city. Weird, they should have melted it and recycled the bronze. Who is Zygimantas Pavilionis? Žygimantas Pavilionis is a career diplomat who became ambassador of Lithuania to the United States in August 2010. Born on August 22, 1971, in Vilnius, Pavilionis grew up with parents who prized higher education; his father, Roland Pavilionis, being an academician and his mother, Mary Pavilioniene Venus, a professor. I wonder if Žygimantas has ever seen Red Dawn. |
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I'm really commenting on the second part of my statement. While people are passionate about things few are willing to literally kill people, especially over something like a statue. An invasion of our country by the Uniformed military of a hostile nation, Yamamoto is spot on. A statue... Not so much View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If NC doesn't have that many people, the 41 other states that have even fewer people must be downright desolate. I thought his point was obvious, but maybe it wasn't. While people are passionate about things few are willing to literally kill people, especially over something like a statue. An invasion of our country by the Uniformed military of a hostile nation, Yamamoto is spot on. A statue... Not so much The statue was merely the symbolism of urban anarachy. |
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It's funny that, for a hundred years or more, nobody gave a shit about these monuments. But trump wins, and keeps winning, and the only thing these animals can do to lash out is to destroy confederate monuments. Meanwhile, in Seattle, they keep the lenin statue going strong. Oh, they'll dress him up every now and then as a soft form of vandalism, kind of a wink/nod to say "we don't support him, but we support him". Now, because somebody got run over at a protest likely staged by them, every mayor and governor in the South is marching to take these things down. Why? Because they're pawns, playing a game of who can kill America the fastest. It still surprises me, though, how quickly the Left can mobilize. They are lightyears ahead of us in logistics. Sadly, logistics always win wars. View Quote To those of us that hold actual jobs in the private sector and have other actual civic and family obligations above and beyond that, it makes sense that they'd beat us at mobilizing for a soft civil war. |
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I'm really commenting on the second part of my statement. While people are passionate about things few are willing to literally kill people, especially over something like a statue. An invasion of our country by the Uniformed military of a hostile nation, Yamamoto is spot on. A statue... Not so much View Quote "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic;" |
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As if anyone is going to press charges. View Quote I'm not sure what's worse, the communist thugs, the totally corrupt politicians in both parties, the police failing to do their jobs or the selective enforcement of the laws, these are all signs of a society in decline.... |
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Drove by almost an hour ago, got a quick vid of about 20 people standing around. No action. If there was looting and destruction of property they would have destroyed their own. Durham used to be fun when it was ghetto. Now it sucks bc all the
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Someone needs to get that statue, melt it down and pour into molds for club making. People then can purchase said clubs at the next riot to knock some sense into the leftist anti American fucks.
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I am at work on airport boulevard, I hope I can get home safelyhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/69995/20170814_205915-280576.JPG View Quote I had a Glock 17 and 10 mags of Gold Dots plus an AR with 10 mags of Gold Dots and felt underarmed. Granted, I was working in a shit hole in Durham, so, YMMV and all that... |
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There is really nice high quality video of the entire thing with the camera actually held properly. Should make identifying all involved fairly easy.
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I know that pointing this out makes me a Commie-loving Antifa America hater or something, but consider what these statues might actually be about. A lot of these Confederate memorials went up during two eras - Jim Crow (1890's to 1930's), and the Civil Rights Era (1950's and 60's). They weren't put up because a bunch of crippled Confederate veterans scraped together their last dimes to remember their beloved commanders. The statues were put up by state legislatures in large numbers during two very specific racially charged periods. You can theorize about the motives, I suppose. Many people think they were put up to serve as physical reminders so that everyone would know their place, and stay in it. Other people think they are memorials to battlefield valor and heritage. The timing, though, seems a little suspicious - not enough to damn by itself, but context is important. You can look at the dates yourself, see what you think. List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America What do I think? I'd say quietly retire them before or after the protests have died down. Let them go to private collections, or perhaps some well-heeled alt-Right nottanazi can open the "Otto Skorzeny Memorial Museum for Warriors of Dubious Causes". Don't let them turn into victory points for Nazis or Commies. And yes, 99% of the controversy is being ginned up by the left, the Dems, and the media for political advantage. I get that. I don't know what to do about that. View Quote Where the fuck are the police? |
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