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Posted: 2/8/2024 9:55:23 PM EDT
[#1]
How about we stop funding illegals BEFORE going after citizens?
That would save billions... |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 9:55:50 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Friday noon on the Gee Dee: IS IT HAPPENING ITS HAPPENING.GIF Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Friday morning: Why the fuck can't I log into my 401k IS IT HAPPENING ITS HAPPENING.GIF 
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Posted: 2/8/2024 9:56:29 PM EDT
[#3]
there it is
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Posted: 2/8/2024 9:56:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Friday noon on the Gee Dee: IS IT HAPPENING ITS HAPPENING.GIF TIME TO SAVE TIFFANY GOMAS |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 9:57:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/8/2024 9:58:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yup, between the stolen election, J6, the summer of love, and the covid fiasco, I'm not sure there is a bridge too far for the American populace to stop consuming and pick up pitchforks.  I can't tell if this was on purpose or it was time for lunch. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:00:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TIME TO SAVE TIFFANY GOMAS    |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:04:35 PM EDT
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Not a surprise they've been on about 401Ks for years.
The bastards hate to see us proles with untaxed money (although it does get taxed as ordinary income when we take it out to live on). And of course, since we managed to save some money to live on in retirement, we're the "evil rich" that are taking all the money that the blessed poor deserve since the economy is a zero sum game to demagogue politicians and their coalition of the tarded that keep them in office.  |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:09:45 PM EDT
[#9]
Tax deferral isn’t a break.
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:09:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. But the Commies always warn you about what they are going to do before they do it. It will start by taxing all new retirement savings... I can imagine that in the not too distant future, they will be successful. Then the next step after is to not grandfather and instead come for all the "back taxes" on retirement accounts to "save social security". That'll be interesting. They'll probably boil that frog slowly too. "It's only a 3% tax, what's the big deal?" Then they'll do additional rounds until you pay out the ass. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How about we just abolish social security. Kthxbye. This. But the Commies always warn you about what they are going to do before they do it. It will start by taxing all new retirement savings... I can imagine that in the not too distant future, they will be successful. Then the next step after is to not grandfather and instead come for all the "back taxes" on retirement accounts to "save social security". That'll be interesting. They'll probably boil that frog slowly too. "It's only a 3% tax, what's the big deal?" Then they'll do additional rounds until you pay out the ass. How else will they fund the illegal invaders coming in to replace you? |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:16:50 PM EDT
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The goal of “equity” is exactly the same as communism, everyone is equally poor, despite what they do, make, invent, create, or contribute. They are going to chip away every single thing to make that possible.
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:16:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  This is total gaslighting. 401ks and IRAs tax benefits are nothing to the truly wealthy. Correct. Not even to the moderately wealthy. The contribution limits make it a middle class program. But the Left really wants to destroy the middle class, so we can expect more of that. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:18:53 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. Not even to the moderately wealthy. The contribution limits make it a middle class program. But the Left really wants to destroy the middle class, so we can expect more of that. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:21:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: middle class was destroyed a few decades ago. Nearly everyone I know is in it, so nope. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:21:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: middle class was destroyed a few decades ago. Yup. Most people who think they are middle class are in fact below the mark. What's left of the middle class is steadily evaporating. In a lot of areas in the US middle class starts at over 100k a year. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:21:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. Not even to the moderately wealthy. The contribution limits make it a middle class program. But the Left really wants to destroy the middle class, so we can expect more of that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is total gaslighting. 401ks and IRAs tax benefits are nothing to the truly wealthy. Correct. Not even to the moderately wealthy. The contribution limits make it a middle class program. But the Left really wants to destroy the middle class, so we can expect more of that. I'd have no problem with a large pit opening in the ground and the Left being swallowed up |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:23:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd have no problem with a large pit opening in the ground and the Left being swallowed up From your lips to Satan's ears. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:23:22 PM EDT
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if you read between the lines.
1- they don't want us to retire at all. 2- they don't want us to be financially capable of living any of our dreams at any age. 3- they want to bleed us dry for their own cause 4- they will still be able to make millions off of illicit, back door wall street insider information. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:24:02 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Most people who think they are middle class are in fact below the mark. What's left of the middle class is steadily evaporating. In a lot of areas in the US middle class starts at over 100k a year. $100k/yr in montucky is downright poor in 2024.  $100k is the new $50k. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:24:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From your lips to Satan's ears. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd have no problem with a large pit opening in the ground and the Left being swallowed up From your lips to Satan's ears. The same pit will receive that loser soon enough, and they can follow him |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:25:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: shit, brotherman. $100k/yr in montucky is downright poor in 2024. $100k is the new $50k. I've met people who thought they were middle class at 90k, until they started looking at houses. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:25:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is total gaslighting. 401ks and IRAs tax benefits are nothing to the truly wealthy. Their definition of wealthy is not being dependent on government handouts. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:26:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can take my 401k out of my cold dead hands. lol- they will just deduct it from your bank account |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:26:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How about we get rid of the Congressional retirement plans first and put them all on Social Security instead? |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:28:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've met people who thought they were middle class at 90k, until they started looking at houses.  How To Live In A Tent Mortgage Free 1 got dayum middle classers just need to tug harder on dem bootsraps i reckon. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:29:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yup, between the stolen election, J6, the summer of love, and the covid fiasco, I'm not sure there is a bridge too far for the American populace to stop consuming and pick up pitchforks. That one hit different hnnnnggggg |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:29:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: welp, $90k might not get you into a house but $90k can purchase a damn fine wall tent.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0csWgN7ITqsgot dayum middle classers just need to tug harder on dem bootsraps i reckon. And don't forget to shave off 15% for the old guys. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:31:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That one hit different hnnnnggggg if you're not actively planning your post apocalyptic warlord setup and selecting future members of your harem of hot young MILFs from costco who get a fresh cooter slash butthole wax every week and go commando in their lululemons what are you even doing with your life?  LULULEMON HAUL & TRY ON |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:32:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why dont we just stop fucking the economy further by paying for shit for people who dont earn it, spending money we dont have and then we domt have to impose extra taxes! That is too difficult for congress critters to accomplish and still be able to sell us out and make millions/billions over our dead bodies...... |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:32:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And don't forget to shave off 15% for the old guys.  |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:32:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck all the Satanists that call themselves democrats. Totally_agree |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:34:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, that's the plan. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They can take my 401k out of my cold dead hands. Except they’ll do it right in front of you while lying right to your face that they aren’t doing it. Just like our border situation. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:37:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can take my 401k out of my cold dead hands. Aesop's fable of the Grasshopper and the Ant Confiscating or messing with my 401K is a hill I will die on. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:38:22 PM EDT
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Yea right.
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:39:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fixed Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How about do away with SS, You pick a provider that you like, when you get a job you tell them which provider and your account number. That employer sends 7% of your pre tax pay check to that provider. This would spur competition for providers with the lowest fees and the highest average return. Get the gov out of retirement Fixed What is your plan since you didn't like that one. Why do you think SS started to begin with? History will repeat itself all over again without a plan. Not saying that plan was perfect but at least you got to keep all YOUR money and can pass it on. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:41:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In this instance , rich = you have a 401k . |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:43:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is your plan since you didn't like that one. Why do you think SS started to begin with? History will repeat itself all over again without a plan. Not saying that plan was perfect but at least you got to keep all YOUR money and can pass it on. The plan? Real life consequences. If you fail to plan for retirement then you die penniless in your kids home or in the poorhouse. Retirement accounts are currently available to anyone. The government or employers don’t need to be involved at all. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:45:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The plan? Real life consequences. If you fail to plan for retirement then you die penniless in your kids home or in the poorhouse. Retirement accounts are currently available to anyone. The government or employers don’t need to be involved at all. If an old person has managed to convince every single person in their life to let them die cold and alone in some hovel, sometimes there is a reason. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:46:22 PM EDT
[#39]
That’s one way to create the biggest depression ever seen.
The 401k dollars are the biggest chunk of stock market ownership. It would kill the stock market. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:47:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How about we just abolish social security. Kthxbye. I just want the "opt out" option. Other people are welcome to contribute. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:48:54 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s one way to create the biggest depression ever seen. The 401k dollars are the biggest chunk of stock market ownership. It would kill the stock market. In a way, we should be thankful that the massively corrupt intersection of Wall St and Pennsylvania Ave will never let this actually happen. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:50:54 PM EDT
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How is this bipartisan?
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:50:56 PM EDT
[#43]
So they abandoned Nationalize the 401k plan?
The plan where every American will get an account whether they contribute to it or not, and guarantee an x amount will be put into your account and a guarantee % in earnings. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:52:25 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. Not even to the moderately wealthy. The contribution limits make it a middle class program. But the Left really wants to destroy the middle class, so we can expect more of that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is total gaslighting. 401ks and IRAs tax benefits are nothing to the truly wealthy. Correct. Not even to the moderately wealthy. The contribution limits make it a middle class program. But the Left really wants to destroy the middle class, so we can expect more of that. History repeating itself. Isn't this what the Soviet's did? The villified the Kulaks, which were the upper middle class merchants, small business owners, large farm owners, stole their wealth and killed them off. Once one tier was done, magically the next "not quite as rich but still richer than other people" were the new enemies of the proletariat, and the cycle repeats itself. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:53:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How is this bipartisan? "Bi" = two "Part" = parts Part 1. They tax you Part 2. They spend the money to buy votes and power. Easy peasy. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:53:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: This is total gaslighting. 401ks and IRAs tax benefits are nothing to the truly wealthy. Democrats think anyone making over $60k is doing well and anyone making 6 figures is rich. Over half the population can't come up with $1000. If you can, YOU'RE RICH! |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:54:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: cut all forms of gubbmint right meow. Let’s start over. Might be brutal and primitive the first few years, but I bet the next 200 years it goes smoother… |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:55:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How about do away with SS, and do a mandatory 401k that is not tied to or only available to employers. You pick a provider that you like, when you get a job you tell them which provider and your account number. That employer sends 7% of your pre tax pay check to that provider. This would spur competition for providers with the lowest fees and the highest average return. Get the gov out of retirement I don't know if its a California thing or not but I have to believe it is because my employer wouldn't do it. If you don't want an 401k plan, you have to state it in writing, other wise 5% will automatically be deducted from your check and placed into a account created for you. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:57:27 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Democrats think anyone making over $60k is doing well and anyone making 6 figures is rich. Over half the population can't come up with $1000. If you can, YOU'RE RICH! I could get $950 fo sho. Just visit California and shoplift that amount, no questions asked. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:59:54 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How about we just abolish social security. Kthxbye. Absolutely not We all paid in we deserve our money back. The government can give me all my money back with interest, and then cancel it if they want to. All joking aside I think this is a great idea. I hope everyone who has said things like the above, or supports SS gets their 401k raided to pay for SS. SS is an unconstitutional socialist welfare program for old people. It should never have existed, and should end asap. Yes a lot of people are going to get fucked myself included, but I’d rather fix it now so my kid doesn’t get fucked. Some people would rather their descendants take that fucking though. |
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