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Link Posted: 8/21/2019 10:45:23 AM EST
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This is almost too much.



This is a clear picture of the Duke of York with an underage sex slave and Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's madam.

AND THIS WHOLE FUCKING ARTICLE IS RUNNING ITSELF IN CIRCLES TRYING DESPERATELY TO NEVER SAY "PRINCE ANDREW WAS FUCKING KIDS HERE'S PROOF!!!"



The whole media is acting like it's some kind of onerous chore to report on this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7373055/Flight-logs-prove-Duke-Yorks-Epstein-girl-key-locations.html?fbclid=IwAR2g0SeyzkmTbSYiPfBBSl2CK4Wpuz3RuDjmkbMJ2toDld63C21nmNc1mQ0
Link Posted: 8/21/2019 11:39:00 AM EST
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This is almost too much.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/08/19/21/17459684-0-image-a-24_1566247735473.jpg

This is a clear picture of the Duke of York with an underage sex slave and Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's madam.

AND THIS WHOLE FUCKING ARTICLE IS RUNNING ITSELF IN CIRCLES TRYING DESPERATELY TO NEVER SAY "PRINCE ANDREW WAS FUCKING KIDS HERE'S PROOF!!!"



The whole media is acting like it's some kind of onerous chore to report on this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7373055/Flight-logs-prove-Duke-Yorks-Epstein-girl-key-locations.html?fbclid=IwAR2g0SeyzkmTbSYiPfBBSl2CK4Wpuz3RuDjmkbMJ2toDld63C21nmNc1mQ0
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How old is she in that pic? Looks fairly happy.

Edit: I see she’s 17, what’s legal there?
Link Posted: 8/21/2019 11:44:22 AM EST
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Where is Rachel Chandler?
Link Posted: 8/21/2019 11:50:52 AM EST
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In some other country and married to the heir of Guinness.
Link Posted: 8/21/2019 11:54:35 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/21/2019 12:24:30 PM EST
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Posted in the other thread.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Epstein-Non-Prosecution-Agreement-found/5-2248489/?page=1&anc=80542037#i80542037

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Gotta keep it secret, yo!!!

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Sarah Kellen, Adriana Ross, Lesley Groff, Nadia Markinkova (ze russians?)

So this agreement lets the feds shred the hard drives, etc... after he completes his <2.5 years in jail?

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Makes it sound like Epstein is conceding something, but really all it does is cut the grand jury out of it, who knows how much stuff they had uncovered and were ready to recommend prosecution for.

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ETA: Do your two years and the whole thing disappears,



and you don't get Arkencided...
Link Posted: 8/23/2019 7:13:57 PM EST
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https://apple.news/APVnc-kC6ToqczSDubBrlIg

Well at least it was a “doctoral level” psychologist and not some rank amateur. Nothing to see here.

Also plz don’t suicide me
Link Posted: 8/23/2019 7:17:40 PM EST
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Well at least it was a “doctoral level” psychologist and not some rank amateur. Nothing to see here.

Also plz don’t suicide me
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There is no such thing as a non doctoral level psychologist.
Link Posted: 8/23/2019 7:28:42 PM EST
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Another one of Jeff's paintings happened to get leaked to the media today.

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Link Posted: 8/23/2019 7:43:28 PM EST
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Yah exactly.

A psychological doctor as opposed to what, a fucking Buzzfeed poll?
Link Posted: 8/23/2019 8:45:33 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/23/2019 8:55:14 PM EST
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God.  They really bent over backwards trying to make this go away.

I mean, we all kinda knew it was a sweetheart deal, but holy shit.  They did everything they could do to sweep this under the rug.
Link Posted: 8/23/2019 8:57:11 PM EST
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God.  They really bent over backwards trying to make this go away.

I mean, we all kinda knew it was a sweetheart deal, but holy shit.  They did everything they could do to sweep this under the rug.
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When you're fucking a little girl right next to the President of the United States, literally nothings impossible.
Link Posted: 8/24/2019 7:26:23 AM EST
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Psychiatrist is the one that has to be a doctor and MD, they prescribe meds.

Psychologists can be master degrees only.

Some places call associates degree counselors "Psychologists" instead of counselors, not officially, but refer to them as one.
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Where? Bc I have never heard that before. I work in the field. I am legally NOT allowed to call myself a psychologist.
Link Posted: 8/24/2019 12:38:00 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/24/2019 4:43:08 PM EST
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Maxwell about the hundreds of girls she got for Epstein: They're nothing, these girls. They are Trash.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/the-mystery-of-ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-enabler

Link Posted: 8/24/2019 4:59:41 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/24/2019 5:17:28 PM EST
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Maxwell about the hundreds of girls she got for Epstein: They're nothing, these girls. They are Trash.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/the-mystery-of-ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-enabler

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Kubrick died 6 days after the final cut of Eyes Wide Shut wrapped.
Link Posted: 8/24/2019 6:04:00 PM EST
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Maxwell about the hundreds of girls she got for Epstein: They're nothing, these girls. They are Trash.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/the-mystery-of-ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-enabler

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From the article:

"“Donald was such a joke to all of the models back then—we all knew he was bankrupt and had no game. I remember Jeffrey once saying he was going to be late to pick me up because he had to drop off food for Donald—he was at home crying under the covers.”


Huh...who's laughing now?
Link Posted: 8/24/2019 6:41:50 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/24/2019 10:56:17 PM EST
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He died suddenly and unexpectedly of a heart attack... in his sleep.
Link Posted: 8/25/2019 2:23:43 AM EST
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Just a neat video someone made 7 months ago. I don't vouch for anything in beyond established facts, but still, neat.

Link Posted: 8/25/2019 7:51:03 AM EST
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Maxwell about the hundreds of girls she got for Epstein: They're nothing, these girls. They are Trash.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/the-mystery-of-ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-enabler

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Need closeups of that gold pinky ring.
Link Posted: 8/26/2019 3:24:47 AM EST
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"The manager of Epstein’s companies is Cecile de Jongh, who until last week was also the first lady of the US Virgin Islands" (theguardian.com)

The pilots would first log a minor’s full name & then later list them with their first name and last initial. After being convicted in 2007 the guests on the plane are not documented, they just list the pilots and co-pilots.
Court documents say Teterboro airport was travel hub for Epstein's alleged sex trafficking


Link Posted: 8/26/2019 9:27:46 AM EST
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"The manager of Epstein’s companies is Cecile de Jongh, who until last week was also the first lady of the US Virgin Islands" (theguardian.com)

The pilots would first log a minor’s full name & then later list them with their first name and last initial. After being convicted in 2007 the guests on the plane are not documented, they just list the pilots and co-pilots.
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Those eyes look dead.

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Link Posted: 8/26/2019 9:47:41 AM EST
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It seems like for a lot of these 'sex slaves', they ended up in the social circles of the political, entertainment, and royal elite and made connections that pretty much set them up for life. I mean, in all of the pictures I've seen of these girls during the time of their 'enslavement', they seem to be pretty happy and relaxed. This is why I still see this more as an underage prostitution racket than a non-consensual human trafficking/sex slave thing
Link Posted: 8/26/2019 12:03:09 PM EST
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It seems like for a lot of these 'sex slaves', they ended up in the social circles of the political, entertainment, and royal elite and made connections that pretty much set them up for life. I mean, in all of the pictures I've seen of these girls during the time of their 'enslavement', they seem to be pretty happy and relaxed. This is why I still see this more as an underage prostitution racket than a non-consensual human trafficking/sex slave thing
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Could you define grooming for the class, please.
Link Posted: 8/26/2019 12:08:31 PM EST
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It seems like for a lot of these 'sex slaves', they ended up in the social circles of the political, entertainment, and royal elite and made connections that pretty much set them up for life. I mean, in all of the pictures I've seen of these girls during the time of their 'enslavement', they seem to be pretty happy and relaxed. This is why I still see this more as an underage prostitution racket than a non-consensual human trafficking/sex slave thing
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They draw from multiple demographics. Moonlighting UMC JKs is the cleanest.
Link Posted: 8/26/2019 11:35:42 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/27/2019 8:09:26 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/27/2019 8:14:35 AM EST
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Word wordplay appeal to Authority and ignorance to try to justify the decision to make it look like it ain't what it is.
Link Posted: 8/27/2019 9:25:05 AM EST
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Today is the formal hearing to drop the charges against Epstein. This is a formality because you can't prosecute a corpse.

The good news: There are about 30 Epstein victims who will get to speak today and some of them will certainly name names on public record.
Link Posted: 8/27/2019 12:32:00 PM EST
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Today is the formal hearing to drop the charges against Epstein. This is a formality because you can't prosecute a corpse.

The good news: There are about 30 Epstein victims who will get to speak today and some of them will certainly name names on public record.
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The case is dead.  It died with him as they wanted.

His accomplices will walk.
Link Posted: 8/27/2019 7:01:18 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/27/2019 10:33:55 PM EST
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Kubrick died 6 days after the final cut of Eyes Wide Shut wrapped.
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Maxwell about the hundreds of girls she got for Epstein: They're nothing, these girls. They are Trash.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/the-mystery-of-ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-enabler

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Kubrick died 6 days after the final cut of Eyes Wide Shut wrapped.
If I were killing Kubrick to cover up the stuff he was depicting, I'd have done it halfway through the movie & assigned the remainder to Steven Spielberg, to ensure everyone would hate it & it would have no lasting impact or legacy on society's perception of the leadership class.
Link Posted: 8/27/2019 10:47:05 PM EST
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Also from article, the connections are astonishing.  Names dropped like mad throughout the piece.

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Maxwell about the hundreds of girls she got for Epstein: They're nothing, these girls. They are Trash.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/the-mystery-of-ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-enabler

https://i.redd.it/3infvr5uegi31.jpg
From the article:

"“Donald was such a joke to all of the models back then—we all knew he was bankrupt and had no game. I remember Jeffrey once saying he was going to be late to pick me up because he had to drop off food for Donald—he was at home crying under the covers.”


Huh...who's laughing now?
Also from article, the connections are astonishing.  Names dropped like mad throughout the piece.


Maxwell seemed to adore Epstein, who was a grinning grifter with the gift of gab, and always had a story to tell, even about his home. “He was obsessed with jewelry boxes and very detailed, ornate designs—he told me the Pope actually gave him artisans who teamed up with this one jewelry-box maker from Paris to make his dining room look like a giant version of the inside of a Parisian jewelry box,” says an ex-girlfriend. Epstein also said that his friend Lynn Forester, now married to billionaire Evelyn de Rothschild, needed his financial help during her 1990s divorce from politician Andrew Stein, and that he had graciously floated her. (“100% false,” says a spokesperson for Forester.) He claimed that the producers of The Apprentice had first approached him to make a show about a reclusive billionaire living an extravagant life, but he said no, and then introduced them to Trump. (A spokesperson for Mark Burnett denies this).
The guy also sounds like a transparent bull-shitter (either that, or he's the *only* one telling the truth), which comports with everything else I've heard about Epstein.  And reinforces the odd pattern of extremely rich, highly intelligent people hanging out with an utterly insufferable 'penniless' douche bag for no apparent reason.  Sounds like other losers I've met who usually have unskilled menial jobs but claim to have met celebrities by chance & formed friendships in order to appear interesting to strangers.  I maintain that Epstein was a nobody who was willing to do shady shit for important people at parties --a fairly important function, no doubt-- and once his efforts got shocking/illegal enough, he became a sort of "shell company" for assets related to collective debauchery/corruption activities.  So if it all came down, it'd be *his* private jet, and *his* mansion, and *his* island connected to the orgies, and not the people who paid for them & enjoyed them freely in secret.  That's where the wealth came from, and is probably why he ultimately had to be whacked, since he'd be the only accessible record of having received it.  What I like about this theory, is it doesn't even need to be as extravagant as "8 year old French sex slaves raped by Bill Clinton then ritually sacrificed," but there's also no limit to the depravity.

The one aspect to all this mess that seems highly, highly conspicuously absent; how come we haven't heard anything about drugs?  Seems like that'd be the *very least* illegal thing going on at a private compound operating outside the law, with international resources & customers.  You never have a brothel without drugs around, so where are they, who was taking them, where'd they come from?
Link Posted: 8/27/2019 10:50:04 PM EST
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Maxwell about the hundreds of girls she got for Epstein: They're nothing, these girls. They are Trash.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/the-mystery-of-ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-enabler

https://i.redd.it/3infvr5uegi31.jpg
Need closeups of that gold pinky ring.
I'm also missing something; what's supposed to be implied here?  It isn't like that is an uncommon portrait pose for smug assholes...nor are smug assholes uncommon.  We all know the Ghislaine photo was staged, so whatever pose she chose would likely be something we've seen before.  The caption also mentions stacked ring*s*, and it appears she only has one, so again...what is being implied?
Link Posted: 8/27/2019 10:56:08 PM EST
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It seems like for a lot of these 'sex slaves', they ended up in the social circles of the political, entertainment, and royal elite and made connections that pretty much set them up for life. I mean, in all of the pictures I've seen of these girls during the time of their 'enslavement', they seem to be pretty happy and relaxed. This is why I still see this more as an underage prostitution racket than a non-consensual human trafficking/sex slave thing
Could you define grooming for the class, please.
It's also an ancient, ancient profession.  Sometimes from early childhood where there would obviously be no 'choice' involved for the individual, but also often as a career path willfully undertaken for its immediate or perceived long-term advantages.  Hollywood/strip clubs/porn/pimps have only operated on that latter system for...forever.  It isn't like InstaTHOTs were chaste & innocent until the instant they turned 18 & learned they could trade tits for cash & awesome parties/vacations
Link Posted: 8/27/2019 10:58:13 PM EST
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Man, there's like a hundred Nostradamus' around here!  Quick, gimme the Lotto numbers, guys!
Link Posted: 8/27/2019 11:50:24 PM EST
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It's also an ancient, ancient profession.  Sometimes from early childhood where there would obviously be no 'choice' involved for the individual, but also often as a career path willfully undertaken for its immediate or perceived long-term advantages.  Hollywood/strip clubs/porn/pimps have only operated on that latter system for...forever.  It isn't like InstaTHOTs were chaste & innocent until the instant they turned 18 & learned they could trade tits for cash & awesome parties/vacations
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Oh my! You’ve solved it!

Link Posted: 8/28/2019 12:08:56 AM EST
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It's also an ancient, ancient profession.  Sometimes from early childhood where there would obviously be no 'choice' involved for the individual, but also often as a career path willfully undertaken for its immediate or perceived long-term advantages.  Hollywood/strip clubs/porn/pimps have only operated on that latter system for...forever.  It isn't like InstaTHOTs were chaste & innocent until the instant they turned 18 & learned they could trade tits for cash & awesome parties/vacations
Oh my! You’ve solved it!

My point is there is "grooming" and there is "solicitation."  An important distinction (even though it's trendy these days to pretend it's all the former), because what works to prevent sex work via one route won't stop the other.  If Epstein was merely employing 'pros' then disrupting his network won't accomplish much.  If he was cultivating 'talent' () then the at-risk populations of young females he preyed upon could be monitored to see who comes sniffing around next.
Link Posted: 8/28/2019 1:28:49 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/28/2019 3:19:19 PM EST
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The guy also sounds like a transparent bull-shitter (either that, or he's the *only* one telling the truth), which comports with everything else I've heard about Epstein.  And reinforces the odd pattern of extremely rich, highly intelligent people hanging out with an utterly insufferable 'penniless' douche bag for no apparent reason.  Sounds like other losers I've met who usually have unskilled menial jobs but claim to have met celebrities by chance & formed friendships in order to appear interesting to strangers.  I maintain that Epstein was a nobody who was willing to do shady shit for important people at parties --a fairly important function, no doubt-- and once his efforts got shocking/illegal enough, he became a sort of "shell company" for assets related to collective debauchery/corruption activities.  So if it all came down, it'd be *his* private jet, and *his* mansion, and *his* island connected to the orgies, and not the people who paid for them & enjoyed them freely in secret.  That's where the wealth came from, and is probably why he ultimately had to be whacked, since he'd be the only accessible record of having received it.  What I like about this theory, is it doesn't even need to be as extravagant as "8 year old French sex slaves raped by Bill Clinton then ritually sacrificed," but there's also no limit to the depravity.

The one aspect to all this mess that seems highly, highly conspicuously absent; how come we haven't heard anything about drugs?  Seems like that'd be the *very least* illegal thing going on at a private compound operating outside the law, with international resources & customers.  You never have a brothel without drugs around, so where are they, who was taking them, where'd they come from?
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I wouldn't doubt those girls were fed plenty of drugs along with cash. Probably the reason they kept coming back and having sex with scummy wealthy geezers (vs sex with scummy broke ass H.S. boys) and were in no hurry to contact authorities.
Link Posted: 8/28/2019 9:32:04 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/29/2019 5:57:04 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/29/2019 1:08:44 PM EST
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I wouldn't doubt those girls were fed plenty of drugs along with cash. Probably the reason they kept coming back and having sex with scummy wealthy geezers (vs sex with scummy broke ass H.S. boys) and were in no hurry to contact authorities.
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You must be very lucky to be so ignorant of these kind of things that you are comfortable posting such offensive stupidity even on here. I hope for your sake any knowledge you gain from this is purely academic.
Link Posted: 8/29/2019 1:24:26 PM EST
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So the 2 cameras in the hall way outside his cell were " damaged".
I would like to see video from other cameras in the building or even cameras outside in the street or on other buildings from the time frame of his " suicide".
Maybe these cameras show if any suspicious person was in the building or entered or left the building.
This day and age there are cameras everywhere.
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