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Posted: 8/12/2018 7:23:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2018 7:24:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2018 7:25:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2018 7:25:51 PM EDT
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Rickenbackers - Not that far ahead of their time. Had 4 wheel brakes. The big boys advertised about how dangerous 4 wheel braking was. Rickenbacker went down the tubes. The big boys all introduced 4 wheel braking.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 7:27:32 PM EDT
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AMC Eagle. Now everything is a cross-over. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 7:28:16 PM EDT
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 1963 Chrysler Turbine: Ultimate Edition - Jay Leno's Garage |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 7:29:28 PM EDT
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AMC Eagle. Now everything is a cross-over. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 8:04:40 PM EDT
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https://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/12/Screen-shot-2014-12-01-at-10.58.10-AM.png How about the SVO Mustang? A blown 4 banger as your top performance pony car(I guess Fords top performance car period?)... they put some effort into the package... 4 wheel disks, Konis, solid suspension bushings, 5 speed, 16 inch alloys with Goodyear's best rubber... that's a pretty good setup for 1984, and I think alotta those features were probably firsts for the Mustang.. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 8:05:55 PM EDT
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The Tornado was not a failure. It was in production from 65 to 92, a 26 year run. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The Tornado was not a failure. It was in production from 65 to 92, a 26 year run. The front wheel drive TORONADO lasted only 4 years. 1966-1970. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 8:19:21 PM EDT
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Turbine_Car
Not really a failure considering the production numbers, but beyond it's time. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 8:23:10 PM EDT
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no one wanted this thing.. now everything is a slightly less ugly version of it. https://images.autotrader.com/scaler/620/420/cms/content/articles/oversteer/2017/03-mar/03-27/263414.jpg |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 8:30:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong. The front wheel drive TORONADO lasted only 4 years. 1966-1970. Olds Toronado |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 8:33:40 PM EDT
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The Tucker http://www.tuckerclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/tucker-1003.jpg A company so far ahead of its time that the big three colluded to crush the brand. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 8:38:13 PM EDT
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The GMC trucks with four wheel steering. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 9:03:43 PM EDT
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Don't know about ahead of its time but it was underrated. A pretty bad ass little 4 cylinder car back in 83
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Posted: 8/12/2018 9:07:45 PM EDT
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Lets have a thread about cars/trucks that failed because they were too far ahead of their time. I'll start. 2002 Lincoln Blackwood. A luxury truck at a time when pickups were still just work vehicles. A "luxury" truck at the turn of the century meant you got a CD player and power windows. The Lincoln however had a plush leather interior and all the bells and whistles you could want. And it failed, only selling for one year. At a price of $50K (about $70k in today's dollars) it just didn't make sense. Now 16 years later, all of the big three make luxury trims of their trucks with MSRPs that are pushing $70k+. http://playswithcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/blackwood2.jpg 
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Posted: 8/12/2018 9:08:27 PM EDT
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Aside from its exterior appearance, it had a lot of cool interior features. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 9:22:46 PM EDT
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Can’t believe nobody said DeLorean yet. 
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Posted: 8/12/2018 9:29:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2018 9:32:36 PM EDT
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3000GT VR4. Twin turbo, all wheel steering, and a ton if technology that the world wasn't ready for yet.
They are still super cool cars. You sure don't see many of them though. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 9:32:57 PM EDT
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The GMC Sierra C3 debuted in 2001 and was renamed the Sierra Denali in 2002. The Cadillac Escalade EXT (Avalance clone) also came out in 2002. The Ford F-150 King Ranch was released in 2001. So, luxury trucks existed at the same time as the Blackwood. The Blackwood may have failed because it was RWD only, available only in black-on-black color configuration, and had a carpeted bed. Perhaps luxury truck people still wanted to use a pickup truck like a pickup and not get the bed filthy when they went to pick up flowers at the nursery, tossed a saddle in the back, or hauled a deer carcass out of the woods. The Blackwood failed because its competitors were better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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2002 Lincoln Blackwood. A luxury truck at a time when pickups were still just work vehicles. A "luxury" truck at the turn of the century meant you got a CD player and power windows. The Lincoln however had a plush leather interior and all the bells and whistles you could want. And it failed, only selling for one year. At a price of $50K (about $70k in today's dollars) it just didn't make sense. Now 16 years later, all of the big three make luxury trims of their trucks with MSRPs that are pushing $70k+. The Cadillac Escalade EXT (Avalance clone) also came out in 2002. The Ford F-150 King Ranch was released in 2001. So, luxury trucks existed at the same time as the Blackwood. The Blackwood may have failed because it was RWD only, available only in black-on-black color configuration, and had a carpeted bed. Perhaps luxury truck people still wanted to use a pickup truck like a pickup and not get the bed filthy when they went to pick up flowers at the nursery, tossed a saddle in the back, or hauled a deer carcass out of the woods. The Blackwood failed because its competitors were better. 
I never knew that. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 9:36:46 PM EDT
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Lets have a thread about cars/trucks that failed because they were too far ahead of their time. I'll start. 2002 Lincoln Blackwood. A luxury truck at a time when pickups were still just work vehicles. A "luxury" truck at the turn of the century meant you got a CD player and power windows. The Lincoln however had a plush leather interior and all the bells and whistles you could want. And it failed, only selling for one year. At a price of $50K (about $70k in today's dollars) it just didn't make sense. Now 16 years later, all of the big three make luxury trims of their trucks with MSRPs that are pushing $70k+. http://playswithcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/blackwood2.jpg |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 9:50:26 PM EDT
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My high school GF’s mom had one, GT model. Snappy and nimble, fun car to drive Quote HistoryQuoted:
My high school GF’s mom had one, GT model. Snappy and nimble, fun car to drive That little rig was fun as hell, but it was prone to pretty serious oversteer if you didn't respect the extra power. Imagine a 911 on a really wet road 
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Posted: 8/12/2018 9:51:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sold better as the Buick rendezvous, however these were extremely reliable vehicles. When it all comes down to it they were going after the same market that the Honda Element did and Chevy lost. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 9:53:53 PM EDT
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Anything manufactured Chevrolet
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Posted: 8/12/2018 9:59:23 PM EDT
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Anything manufactured Chevrolet You take a wide body and car. Mark it aerodynamic and give a large multi turbo engine into it. The. Add 2k lbs of luxury crap to it and there you go. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 10:14:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2018 10:18:31 PM EDT
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For my addition I would say cars from the 20th century that had their transmission mounted in the rear while the engine was up front. Only now sports cars are starting to have that as commonplace. engine was 1/2 of a 389 V8. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 10:20:54 PM EDT
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'93.5-'98 Toyota Supra Turbo.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 10:30:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2018 10:34:06 PM EDT
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Not so much a failure as they were technically advanced with a rear mounted transaxle, deDion rear suspension with inboard rear brakes, and shocks mounted upside down to reduce unsprung weight. The underpinnings lived on until FIAT took control of Alfa and decided the Alfetta based 75/Milano cost too much to make.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 10:37:44 PM EDT
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The Tucker really does capture the imagination. I always wonder what impact it would have had on car design and what else they would have came up with had they been successful.
The passenger "hide in case of impending crash" hole seems a bit half assed though.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 10:38:56 PM EDT
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Lets have a thread about cars/trucks that failed because they were too far ahead of their time. I'll start. 2002 Lincoln Blackwood. A luxury truck at a time when pickups were still just work vehicles. A "luxury" truck at the turn of the century meant you got a CD player and power windows. The Lincoln however had a plush leather interior and all the bells and whistles you could want. And it failed, only selling for one year. At a price of $50K (about $70k in today's dollars) it just didn't make sense. Now 16 years later, all of the big three make luxury trims of their trucks with MSRPs that are pushing $70k+. http://playswithcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/blackwood2.jpg |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 11:53:21 PM EDT
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For my addition I would say cars from the 20th century that had their transmission mounted in the rear while the engine was up front. Only now sports cars are starting to have that as commonplace. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 11:56:35 PM EDT
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Corvair - Basically, a pretty advanced concept (rear engine) for an American car, but the transmission (powerglide/3 spd manual) and drive train were still too far in the past. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/920/Unknown-638544.JPG |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 12:04:40 AM EDT
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Agree. I hate they dropped this option Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The GMC trucks with four wheel steering. |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 12:10:51 AM EDT
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 Attached FileMinneapolis-Moline's UDLX Comfortractor. Don’t know if ahead of its time but definitely unique. |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 12:12:01 AM EDT
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The Tucker http://www.tuckerclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/tucker-1003.jpg A company so far ahead of its time that the big three colluded to crush the brand. I still occasionally eat dinner across the street from the museum. Now, when I opened the thread, I was thinking differently. I was pondering ideas that were too early for implementation like the 4-6-8 V8 in 1980-1982 Cadillacs or the 350 Olds diesel. |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 12:12:37 AM EDT
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https://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/12/Screen-shot-2014-12-01-at-10.58.10-AM.png How about the SVO Mustang? A blown 4 banger as your top performance pony car(I guess Fords top performance car period?)... they put some effort into the package... 4 wheel disks, Konis, solid suspension bushings, 5 speed, 16 inch alloys with Goodyear's best rubber... that's a pretty good setup for 1984, and I think alotta those features were probably firsts for the Mustang..
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Posted: 8/13/2018 12:17:16 AM EDT
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3000GT VR4. Twin turbo, all wheel steering, and a ton if technology that the world wasn't ready for yet. They are still super cool cars. You sure don't see many of them though. |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 12:17:25 AM EDT
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Being an Ypsilanti native, I’m all too aware of how badly the Tucker got screwed. I still occasionally eat dinner across the street from the museum. Now, when I opened the thread, I was thinking differently. I was pondering ideas that were too early for implementation like the 4-6-8 V8 in 1980-1982 Cadillacs or the 350 Olds diesel. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Tucker http://www.tuckerclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/tucker-1003.jpg A company so far ahead of its time that the big three colluded to crush the brand. I still occasionally eat dinner across the street from the museum. Now, when I opened the thread, I was thinking differently. I was pondering ideas that were too early for implementation like the 4-6-8 V8 in 1980-1982 Cadillacs or the 350 Olds diesel. Worst idea ever! |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 12:18:43 AM EDT
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I have a hard time saying he Veyron is ahead of its time. To my knowledge there is nothing new in them. You take a wide body and car. Mark it aerodynamic and give a large multi turbo engine into it. The. Add 2k lbs of luxury crap to it and there you go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anything manufactured Chevrolet You take a wide body and car. Mark it aerodynamic and give a large multi turbo engine into it. The. Add 2k lbs of luxury crap to it and there you go. |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 12:21:51 AM EDT
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no one wanted this thing.. now everything is a slightly less ugly version of it. https://images.autotrader.com/scaler/620/420/cms/content/articles/oversteer/2017/03-mar/03-27/263414.jpg |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 12:29:27 AM EDT
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Turbine_Car https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Chrysler_027.jpg Not really a failure considering the production numbers, but beyond it's time. |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 12:47:39 AM EDT
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NASH METROPOLITAN The Smart car of the 1950's |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 1:02:58 AM EDT
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The documentary "Who Killed The Electric Car?" is an entertaining watch if you're a car-industry geek. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Chevrolet EV1. Battery technology wasn't there yet. Among other things. https://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/gm-ev1.jpg The funniest part was when the mechanics were showing how their hands were clear working on the car because it didn't have an engine.
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Posted: 8/13/2018 1:05:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryMy uncle had one. It was very entertaining to drive for newly-licensed me.
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Posted: 8/13/2018 1:07:38 AM EDT
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For my addition I would say cars from the 20th century that had their transmission mounted in the rear while the engine was up front. Only now sports cars are starting to have that as commonplace. |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 1:11:44 AM EDT
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no one wanted this thing.. now everything is a slightly less ugly version of it. https://images.autotrader.com/scaler/620/420/cms/content/articles/oversteer/2017/03-mar/03-27/263414.jpg |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 1:13:00 AM EDT
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http://web.physics.ucsb.edu/~airboy/twomets.jpg NASH METROPOLITAN The Smart car of the 1950's Was my mother's first car  Attached File |
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