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Posted: 2/16/2023 11:55:44 AM EDT
Holy Water.
Aside from this guy seeming a bit weird, what are your thoughts on holy water? It was a part of my life growing up as a Catholic. As a child I thought it had some sort of magic properties. Now I understand that the water itself is just water but may help the user feel closer to a state of Grace. Not speaking of myself. |
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Tastes great, and is less filling.
Probably has something to do with all of the holes. |
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It is supposed to work against vampires.
Recommend water balloons or super soaker to maintain some distance. Edit: Damn, beat by a minute. |
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Holy water can work.
Some of it is belief and the other is god. The Russian Orthodox cut a cross in the rivers and lakes here to bless it and get holy water. |
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Unless it was blessed by Jesus Himself, it's just ordinary H2O.
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Do you know how they make Holy Water?
They boil the hell out of it. |
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ALL religion is based on FAITH, why don't you morons understand that simple concept yet??????????
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Quoted: I did see a phlebotomist. That was scary too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I have never seen a vampire in a Catholic church. I did see a phlebotomist. That was scary too. The phlebotomist who draws my blood once said she could tell that my blood was sanctified or something similar. Can’t remember exactly the word she used. I didn’t know what to say. So I just said Praise God. She is always upbeat and friendly so I was not offended by her comment. |
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Holy water is water that’s been blessed by a priest. I did a youth group summer camp when I was an early teen. On the final day at the end of the service the father had each of us come down and place a personal item on a table to be blessed. Baseball caps scarves etc… I took up my trusty three inch Gerber. That’s right, I had a holy demon killer of a knife. I broke it separating a venison joint two years later
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Quoted: ALL religion is based on FAITH, why don't you morons understand that simple concept yet?????????? View Quote Most witches don’t Believe in gods. They know that the gods exist, of course. They even deal with them occasionally. But they don’t Believe in them. They know them too well. It would be like believing in the postman. GNU Terry Pratchett |
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Just signs of faith. It's like Jews blessing food to make it Kosher or Halal food for Muslims (no pork/lizards).
But since it's Christian (especially Catholic), it's acceptable to publicly ridicule. |
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Quoted: Unless it was blessed by Jesus Himself, it's just ordinary H2O. View Quote I'm a lapsed Catholic, but I'm guessing the response would be that the water is blessed by God (and via the holy Trinity, also Jesus) acting thru the priest as His instrument. I'm pretty sure that's how confession was supposed to work as well. The priest doesn't forgive you, God forgives you thru the priest. |
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OP, I don’t have time for a video. Can you describe briefly how holy water was used in your upbringing or your current life in the church?
I am aware of no Biblical basis for the concept of holy water. You mentioned it helping people feel closer to a state of grace. God has promised to give and sustain faith through his Word and sacraments, so I would suggest that those concerned about grace should focus on those things rather than a human contrivance like holy water. While Baptism is a means of grace that involves water, it’s just ordinary water applied with God’s Word. There is no rite given in Scripture to make water holy before using it for baptism, nor is there anything to suggest the water used for baptism can give any spiritual benefit apart from baptism. |
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All water (non-polluted, of course!) is holy water. All water is a gift from God to give us life and keep us healthy. It's the "source" that makes water holy.
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Quoted: I'm a lapsed Catholic, but I'm guessing the response would be that the water is blessed by God (and via the holy Trinity, also Jesus) acting thru the priest as His instrument. I'm pretty sure that's how confession was supposed to work as well. The priest doesn't forgive you, God forgives you thru the priest. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Unless it was blessed by Jesus Himself, it's just ordinary H2O. I'm a lapsed Catholic, but I'm guessing the response would be that the water is blessed by God (and via the holy Trinity, also Jesus) acting thru the priest as His instrument. I'm pretty sure that's how confession was supposed to work as well. The priest doesn't forgive you, God forgives you thru the priest. The problem with all of that is that Jesus is the high priest, the fullfilment of the old law into the New Coveneant. None cometh to the Father but through Him. No mortal human mediator needed. |
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Quoted: Just signs of faith. It's like Jews blessing food to make it Kosher or Halal food for Muslims (no pork/lizards). But since it's Christian (especially Catholic), it's acceptable to publicly ridicule. View Quote Signs of faith in what? Receiving Baptism or the Lord’s supper shows faith in God because God has attached promises to those things. What promise has God made in connection with any application of water outside of Baptism that would make such use of water an act of faith in God? |
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Quoted: The problem with all of that is that Jesus is the high priest, the fullfilment of the old law into the New Coveneant. None cometh to the Father but through Him. No mortal human mediator needed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Unless it was blessed by Jesus Himself, it's just ordinary H2O. I'm a lapsed Catholic, but I'm guessing the response would be that the water is blessed by God (and via the holy Trinity, also Jesus) acting thru the priest as His instrument. I'm pretty sure that's how confession was supposed to work as well. The priest doesn't forgive you, God forgives you thru the priest. The problem with all of that is that Jesus is the high priest, the fullfilment of the old law into the New Coveneant. None cometh to the Father but through Him. No mortal human mediator needed. That's not the Catholic faith. Catholic faith is in the Holy Trinity, in which the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one. But doesn't really matter in my eyes, as long as you're a good person. It's all just semantics and word play. |
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Quoted: Holy Water. Aside from this guy seeming a bit weird, what are your thoughts on holy water? It was a part of my life growing up as a Catholic. As a child I thought it had some sort of magic properties. Now I understand that the water itself is just water but may help the user feel closer to a state of Grace. Not speaking of myself. View Quote ...until it has been blessed. Like a church is just a building until it has been consecrated. |
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Quoted: All water (non-polluted, of course!) is holy water. All water is a gift from God to give us life and keep us healthy. It's the "source" that makes water holy. View Quote My kabbalah teachers say that water is the thing closest to God's light which is the source of all things and all fulfilment we experience. We're literally made to receive God's light, and to be like the light itself and be like God (sharing, proactive rather than reactive, etc). You can also remove "negative energy" so to speak by completely immersing yourself in water in a Mikveh or natural body of water. |
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Quoted: Signs of faith in what? Receiving Baptism or the Lord’s supper shows faith in God because God has attached promises to those things. What promise has God made in connection with any application of water outside of Baptism that would make such use of water an act of faith in God? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Just signs of faith. It's like Jews blessing food to make it Kosher or Halal food for Muslims (no pork/lizards). But since it's Christian (especially Catholic), it's acceptable to publicly ridicule. Signs of faith in what? Receiving Baptism or the Lord’s supper shows faith in God because God has attached promises to those things. What promise has God made in connection with any application of water outside of Baptism that would make such use of water an act of faith in God? It's a reminder of one's Catholic baptism. It's something Catholics do. Just like Baptists and their hillbilly hoedowns after night service. |
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Quoted: Just signs of faith. It's like Jews blessing food to make it Kosher or Halal food for Muslims (no pork/lizards). But since it's Christian (especially Catholic), it's acceptable to publicly ridicule. View Quote I never see Catholics mocking Baptists, Lutherans, Episcopalians or Born again Christians...however I can't say the same for the reverse. And somehow this board will give you a warning for mocking an entire religious group with the sole exception of Catholics |
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Quoted: I never see Catholics mocking Baptists, Lutherans, Episcopalians or Born again Christians...however I can't say the same for the reverse. And somehow this board will give you a warning for mocking an entire religious group with the sole exception of Catholics View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Just signs of faith. It's like Jews blessing food to make it Kosher or Halal food for Muslims (no pork/lizards). But since it's Christian (especially Catholic), it's acceptable to publicly ridicule. I never see Catholics mocking Baptists, Lutherans, Episcopalians or Born again Christians...however I can't say the same for the reverse. And somehow this board will give you a warning for mocking an entire religious group with the sole exception of Catholics I was raised in both so I poke fun depending on the person I'm speaking with. |
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Quoted: Just signs of faith. It's like Jews blessing food to make it Kosher or Halal food for Muslims (no pork/lizards). But since it's Christian (especially Catholic), it's acceptable to publicly ridicule. View Quote Not me Karen, I'm an equal opportunity ridiculer ...but do continue staking your claim to victim-hood, I hear it's good for your soul |
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Quoted: Not me Karen, I'm an equal opportunity ridiculer ...but do continue staking your claim to victim-hood, I hear it's good for your soul View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Just signs of faith. It's like Jews blessing food to make it Kosher or Halal food for Muslims (no pork/lizards). But since it's Christian (especially Catholic), it's acceptable to publicly ridicule. Not me Karen, I'm an equal opportunity ridiculer ...but do continue staking your claim to victim-hood, I hear it's good for your soul I'm good. You get used to brushing that shit off early. |
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Even fake Holy Water burns
The Exorcist 1973 | Holy Water Scene |
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As a very staunch and practicing Catholic, I could only watch about three minutes of this video. I believe in blessed holy water, I kept in my house. I also have a bottle of water from the Jordan River in the holy land and I keep adding holy water to that bottle when it gets half way down.
I put a dab on myself weekly and on my dogs, also sprinkle on my house when we leave for a hurricane. It is only as good as your faith in God, it is not magical nor can repel any demons, IMO. |
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Religion and holy water are as much farces as UFOs, ghosts, vampires, and leprechauns. People will believe anything if you scare them enough.
Fight me! |
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I only get Peter Popoff's Miracle Water. I said the prayer, drank the water, and 2 days later got a letter in the mail saying my 750k debt has been erased!
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For all you "non believers" try this
Immerse a Ouija board in holy water Sure enough, in a month or so, that evil Ouija board will be all rotten and dissolved What more proof do you need? |
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Being Christian it means nothing to me but I can understand the use of it to comfort those who believe in it.
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There are times in other denominations where a very sick person is anointed with oil as in the Bible. I'm not sure what they think is going to happen as it seems more like a blessing. It can't be holy becuse nothing on this earth can be holy except Jesus. That is why we don't say Father or reverend. ymm
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