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Posted: 4/12/2022 11:53:32 AM EDT
Was exploring on the motorcycle and saw this under a bridge for a major highway. Should I call someone?
    
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Posted: 4/12/2022 11:54:47 AM EDT
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No duct tape on the bike? Should patch her right up.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 11:56:16 AM EDT
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The abutment should be sitting on piles/a deep foundation. I think the broken concrete is just to prevent erosion.
In theory it could be a problem, but there would have to be a whole lot of erosion first. Edit: skimmed too fast. One of the piles is actually exposed. Yes, I would call the DOT. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 11:56:42 AM EDT
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Where is this so that I can avoid that bridge?
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Posted: 4/12/2022 11:57:18 AM EDT
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I believe that concrete is only for erosion control so not an immediate concern.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 11:58:55 AM EDT
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Quoted: Was exploring on the motorcycle and saw this under a bridge for a major highway. Should I call someone? https://i.imgur.com/0tpDDaj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AjewOeJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/QzgGBMT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/83r65tO.jpg Just erosion protection. We use stone / crushed concrete around here unless it’s really steep. Your actually bridge pillars could be as deep as 50-60 feet into the ground, depending on the design / specs / etc. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 11:59:23 AM EDT
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Not a civil engineer but no - that doesn't look quite right.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:00:21 PM EDT
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I am just a guy but....this part seems like a problem. Seems like it used to be supported by earth but now isn't.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:03:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am just a guy but....this part seems like a problem. Seems like it used to be supported by earth but now isn't. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/351202/Untitled_png-2346590.JPG Being at an angle, the size, the location and how it’s joined, makes me think that wasn’t actually part of the bridge. Maybe something from an old bridge they tore out and just buried on site. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:04:01 PM EDT
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Only call if you are bored an like to talk to people who have no control and don't give a shit.
If you can get a local news station to run a hit piece on highway funds being siphoned for migrant housing you might get some traction. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:05:40 PM EDT
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Looks to me like it needs to be Built Back Better.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:06:03 PM EDT
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If you see something....
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:06:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only call if you are bored an like to talk to people who have no control and don't give a shit. If you can get a local news station to run a hit piece on highway funds being siphoned for migrant housing you might get some traction. Local I like the sound of that. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:10:23 PM EDT
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Looks like TX and OK spend the same amount of time taking care of their bridges
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:12:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you see something.... Walked out there and sure enough, looks like someone smacked the mail boxes/power pole then took off. The power pole looked fine in my opinion, just some scratches, but I don't work for the power company and they must have caused it to rock or something because my power blipped. Called the power company and let them know what I heard and what their pole looks like. I expressed that it just looked like surface scratches and I didn't think the pole was really damaged, but they were out here ricky tick to check their shit. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:13:02 PM EDT
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Looks like the entire bridge shifted back 3+ ft.
What does the other side look like? |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:14:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: Was exploring on the motorcycle and saw this under a bridge for a major highway. Should I call someone? So, you already know the answer to your question. What did you do, OP? |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:17:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like the entire bridge shifted back 3+ ft. What does the other side look like? lolwut? The bridge would of fallen out of place from the abutments. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:19:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, you already know the answer to your question. What did you do, OP? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Was exploring on the motorcycle and saw this under a bridge for a major highway. Should I call someone? So, you already know the answer to your question. What did you do, OP? I just wanted to have a good time. That was all. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:32:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The abutment should be sitting on piles/a deep foundation. I think the broken concrete is just to prevent erosion. In theory it could be a problem, but there would have to be a whole lot of erosion first. Edit: skimmed too fast. One of the piles is actually exposed. Yes, I would call the DOT. It looks like it's getting pretty close to washing out the road surface and barrier too. Probably a lot closer to that than to the bridge supports failing. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:34:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am just a guy but....this part seems like a problem. Seems like it used to be supported by earth but now isn't. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/351202/Untitled_png-2346590.JPG You mean the gap under the ledge? Not a big deal in itself. The horizontal member is supported by piles under it (like the one sticking out, except that doesn't look like one of the ones for that piece), and the piles are mostly held up by static pressure from the soil on their sides. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:38:30 PM EDT
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Eventually erosion will eat away at the soil and expose the foundations. That won' t happen for a long time, but yes it does need to be fixed. Does your DOT have a BRINSAP program? Ha. Just noticed you're in Texas. Look up your local TxDOT maintenance office and get in contact with the bridge department. Send them the pics and they will inspect it, or get the railroad to do it. Not sure who's responsible for it exactly.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:38:47 PM EDT
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could be worse. This piece of shit never even got to see traffic before collapsing.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:41:16 PM EDT
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Quoted: That's what happens when you let water get under concrete... it creates voids and the pretty concrete slopes collapse. The bridge generally is carried down to bedrock, so unless you're seeing cracks you can fit your hand in i wouldn't worry too much. It wouldn't be the first bridge to use angled piers at the bridge abutments, so I wouldn't worry too much about it being exposed. Having said that if you're worried call the RR and highway dept and they'll both have a meeting on site and it'll get put in the reapir plan for circa 2030. Both the RR and highway dept inspect bridges regularly and ignore the need for maintenance. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:42:56 PM EDT
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Watch out for railroad police, trespasser.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:46:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am just a guy but....this part seems like a problem. Seems like it used to be supported by earth but now isn't. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/351202/Untitled_png-2346590.JPG Unplanned structural sunshine under what appears to be a structural footing is not a good thing. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:46:49 PM EDT
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Maybe we should create a program/source of funding to replace and repair bridges...
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:47:51 PM EDT
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It's supposed to look like that. Kind of like when people want 'distressed' cabinets in their new house so you take a chain to the doors and wipe some off-color paint over them.
In this case it's supposed to help you get used to a post-apocalyptic USA. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:47:53 PM EDT
[#28]
Doesn’t look like an area that gets noticed too often. I’d call.
I did something similar on a box culvert that was 80% clogged. They got right on it. (Meaning six months later) |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:49:30 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Watch out for railroad police, trespasser. Is it still trespassing if you’re a sovereign citizen traveler? |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 12:58:30 PM EDT
[#30]
It's the result of deferred maintenance, and poor design. It's not an immediate threat, but continued erosion could make it a serious problem. BTDT many times.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:05:21 PM EDT
[#31]
It isn't, until it is.
In all seriousness, there is a pier showing, so Id guess the whole thing is supported by piers. Probably won't be a problem for a long time. The broken up slabs are just there to carry water away, they aren't really structural. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:10:58 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it still trespassing if you’re a sovereign citizen traveler? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Watch out for railroad police, trespasser. Is it still trespassing if you’re a sovereign citizen traveler? You should definitely fuck around and find out.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:13:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It isn't, until it is. In all seriousness, there is a pier showing, so Id guess the whole thing is supported by piers. Probably won't be a problem for a long time. The broken up slabs are just there to carry water away, they aren't really structural. Without them though, you're gonna see a lot more rapid erosion. I think this is one of those times where an ounce of prevention is way better than a pound of cure. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:14:09 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's supposed to look like that. Kind of like when people want 'distressed' cabinets in their new house so you take a chain to the doors and wipe some off-color paint over them. In this case it's supposed to help you get used to a post-apocalyptic USA.  Attached FileBest to ease into these sorts of things.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:18:42 PM EDT
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Is it a big problem? Absolutely not! Not for me, anyway. Because I'm not going over the bridge.
 Seriously, if you want some action, don't bother with the DOT. Send the photos (and your concerns) to your Congressman. Be sure to mention how the bridge seems to have dropped a few inches in recent weeks. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:19:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it still trespassing if you’re a sovereign citizen traveler? RR cops are a real bitch and they are given powers that are similar to game wardens. So watch your cornhole bud. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:20:58 PM EDT
[#37]
It won't be a problem until the bridge collapses, then everyone will be blaming the inspectors.
I would say that is a big problem, not a civil engineer. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:21:20 PM EDT
[#38]
Keep Quiet and tell nobody
set up game cameras record footage when bridge collapses sell video to news media profit |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:23:54 PM EDT
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Bridges are a kind of metaphor for government. Neglected, it breaks down and blocks progress
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:28:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's the result of deferred maintenance, and poor design. It's not an immediate threat, but continued erosion could make it a serious problem. BTDT many times. Muddy run off water and outflows indicate soil being removed from under the slab. Lack of vertical concrete or sheet pile cut off walls under the slab, burrowing mammals, broken drainage system and most likely not doing any maintenance grouting under the slab all contributed. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:38:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: RR cops are a real bitch and they are given powers that are similar to game wardens. So watch your cornhole bud. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is it still trespassing if you’re a sovereign citizen traveler? RR cops are a real bitch and they are given powers that are similar to game wardens. So watch your cornhole bud. 
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:42:10 PM EDT
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It will eventually collapse. Just depends on when.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:58:32 PM EDT
[#43]
In before it's blamed on Californians moving to Texas.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 2:02:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before it's blamed on Californians moving to Texas. LOL You know its your fault. And New York thanks you for taking the heat.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 2:06:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe we should create a program/source of funding to replace and repair bridges... 10%? |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 2:16:38 PM EDT
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 I'm not a structural engineer, but I watch one on YT In red: exposed rebar is a BAD thing. Once rebar starts to corrode, it busts up the concrete. In orange: that shit used to be buried and/or have soil underneath it. Significant erosion is ALREADY happening. In blue: I don't know how you guys do it there, but all the bridge pilings I've seen driven up here are driven vertically. That looks to be an issue to me, but I could be wrong. Also, could be camera angle giving an optical illusion. Either way, that shit should not be exposed like that. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 3:09:41 PM EDT
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Some Henry's 208 should fix it right up
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Posted: 4/12/2022 3:23:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  Attached FileIn blue: I don't know how you guys do it there, but all the bridge pilings I've seen driven up here are driven vertically. That looks to be an issue to me, but I could be wrong. Also, could be camera angle giving an optical illusion. Either way, that shit should not be exposed like that. It depends what it is doing. It may be to resist lateral movement. It is also more likely to be part of the abutment than the bridge. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 3:24:42 PM EDT
[#49]
Yup. TXDOT handy work right there.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 3:28:56 PM EDT
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<< Bridge Inspector sitting in a inspection training class.
This thread should be pretty interesting.  |
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