I can’t imagine the field day they’d have with Rush Limbaugh if he was still alive.

The original “influencer”.

Rush hated the Russians and was as I remember was supportive of every military intervention. I used to subscribe to his Limbaugh letter when I was a kid. I also remember bill Clinton accusing him of being responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing.

You could argue, they should have been more suspicous.

But that doesnt mean even if they were, that they should know who.

I listen to Tim’s podcast and his x account is purely for trolling. He’s yanking people’s chains

The PRC is the most evil and aggressive government on earth followed by the traitor American deep state that armed and financed them. They mean to destroy us and if we allow them to get the upper hand we will be treated just like the uighers.

lol

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain - Hollywood, the government and China.

So what exactly have these folks, like Tim Pool, shown to be manufactured or not accurate?

Or is this one of those things where the DOJ/FBI along with the Dems are saying everything that's bad under the Harris and Potato regime isn't true?

Yea....the charges are against the two Russians, not founder 1 & 2, or commentators 1-6.

It will probably stay like that as long as all parties keep their mouths shut. I think F1 and F2 should be especially enjoy their Fifth Amendment rights as their position does seem precarious. All the commentators should be ok as they have another degree of separation from those charged, but should also say nothing to the FBI.

China is our enemy. You're just not thinking like them.

China doesn't want to destroy us or conquer us. They don't want to have PLA soldiers on your street corner.

They want to replace us as the world power and have influence over us. They want to dictate terms to us, and have third world countries look to them.

China wants to be the US in 1960. They want the US to be the UK in 1960.

For that kind of money, you better have an office of lawyers and be suspicious of EVERYTHING.

You sound like an idiot.

I was briefed that Russian stooge Yanukovych was stopping all cooperation with the United States that pro-western Yuschenko was involved in. And this was LONG before Trump was president. It’s a fact that happened - nothing classified. Secondly, I NEVER said I hated Trump and NEVER told anyone on the board not to vote for him. I have only called out his anti 2A actions and other political actions which were not conservative.

Tim the Tool put out Russian propaganda on a daily basis and now is walking it back trying to say that if he did that he was mislead. So, he’s basically saying that he’s not guilty of any wrongdoing (disseminating foreign propaganda on behalf of a hostile foreign power for the purpose of influencing US foreign policy in favor of that hostile foreign power) but that he is an idiot and has no critical thinking abilities - because he can’t have it both ways. And his audience believing all the lies which are easily disproved (mostly because his anti-Ukraine conclusions and predictions ended up not happening) are as big of fools as him. He must not be a businessman either not to realize that this network he is on had a 10 million dollar budget and that only like $300,000 came in from US sponsors and viewer revenues (if I understand the money part of this correctly). Maybe he should change his name to Tim Fool.

https://www.wusf.org/courts-law/2024-09-04/uhuru-trial-begins-accused-helping-russia-sow-political-division-chaos

Awkward



Rush was actually a patriot, not a grifter.

He wouldn't have sold his soul to the left or worse, a foreign power, for dollars.

You sound like an American who puts the national security of their ancestral homeland ahead of the United States. That’s pretty fucking pathetic.

And part of your basis of that support was you previously cited the Russian collusion hoax and continue to cite numerous disproven hoaxes

...and Anna Nicole married for love

Nothing can be true, not even Trump, because those are false, right?

Never. I’m an American first and foremost. You took Putin’s side and can’t stand anyone who supports the Ukrainian people who want to be free from oppression. Ukraine suffered one of the worst genocides under Stalin (see Harvest of Despair documentary) with 7 to 12 million starved to death in the worst genocide by famine in which Russian tried to extinguish Ukrainian ethnicity, language, history, and culture - something the Muscovites / “Russians” have been trying to do for several hundred years. Ukraine is experiencing its own Red Dawn and you root and defend the Russian side - YOU are are pretty fucking pathetic. As far as Russian collusion, if Trump wasn’t colluding with the Russians then he was an idiot being used by them because he’s an ignoramus when it comes to foreign policy especially European.

Trump's Best People List Regarding Russia

1) Paul Manafort - Trump's campaign manager was on the Kremlin payroll as the Russian controlled Party of Regions (note the name, bylaws to split Ukraine up into autonomous pro-Russian oblasts) candidate Yanukovych's campaign manager. He succeeded (with election cheating) and ousted pro-western Yuschenko from office. Yanukovych began to start Russian reforms like: change Ukrainian schoolbooks to reflect Russian history, make Russian an official language equal to Ukrainian, stopped ALL Ukrainian military modernization projects, and the big one: pushed to allow Russian troops to be station on multiple Ukrainian military bases for "cooperation"- that was the last straw which got him thrown out (he fled to Russia - big surprise). General Flynn and others connected to Manafort pushed the narrative that a "Nazi Ukrainian government" threw out a democratically elected leader.

While in Cleveland at the Republican National Convention, Manafort attempted to steer the RNC to change its policy from favorable to arm Ukraine to unfavorable. He did this BEFORE any initiatives to declare Trump as the party candidate. Manafort was part of Putin's Plan A for Ukraine and he has blood on his hands (his daughters words as well in texts revealed).

2) Carter Page - was on the Russian "consultant" payroll for years and influenced US government officials to be in favor of Russian interests regarding foreign policy.

3) George Papadopoulos- another pro-Russian between man who passed pro-Russian policy wish lists between the Kremlin and US officials.

4) Sam Clovis - Russian expert along the lines of Clinton Ehrlich (Tucker Carlson's Russian expert who was employed by the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs) as far as twisting Ukrainian history in favor of Russia (and old technique used for hundreds of years by the Muscovites). He was Trump's academic adviser on Russia and if you look at ANY of his video lectures, you will see strong favoritism toward Russia. A classic Russian apoligist similar to Stephen Cohen who appeared on many talk shows like Coast to Coast.

5) Roger Stone - appeared on talk shows (like Info Wars)  and made HUNDREDS of statements praising Putin and Russia and spread Kremin lies about Ukraine.

6) Genral Flynn- past and present apologist for Russia. Spread Kremlin "US is poking the bear"  lies and propaganda about Russian invasion. Flynn's son is a big Alexi Joneskov fan and has appeared on several talk shows (as well as posting online) 100% defense of Russia.

7) Steve Bannon - has ALWAYS taken Russia's side on the conflict and continues to this day to host guests on his show which tow the Kremlin line.

Trump pardoned Manafort, Stone, and Papandopolis.

Trump so praised Putin SEVERAL times for invading Ukraine. Regarding Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Trump said Putin's action was "so smart."

“Well, he’s done an amazing job of taking the mantle," Trump said of Russian president Vladimir Putin in an interview with Fox News' Eric Bolling. "And he’s taken it away from the president, and you look at what he’s doing. And so smart. When you see the riots in a country because they’re hurting the Russians, okay, ‘We’ll go and take it over.’ And he really goes step by step by step, and you have to give him a lot of credit."

"Interestingly, I own the Miss Universe pageant," Trump added. "We just left Moscow. He could not have been nicer. He was so nice and so everything. But you have to give him credit that what he’s doing for that country in terms of their world prestige is very strong."

Trump also said in the interview that "the people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were."

Trump's comments made in May 2014 speech to the National Press Club:

“And another country, wants to come in and join—they love Russia," he said then. "They say—now we send in our pollsters, we say, ‘That’s not true.’ Well, you know, guess what? They want to form with Russia. How the hell are we involved? Okay, we’re involved in all of this. Isn’t Europe supposed to be involved in this?”

So, either Trump is a dunce and useful idiot for the Kremlin OR he knew what he was doing on their behalf. Pick one.

I and most American could give a fuck about either Slavic shit-states.  If you carried about America, you would want all spending cut to the absolute minimum and not carve outs for that shit hole of a nation being used as pass through for money laundering back to the people destroying this country.

You can care less about one country genociding another. Great Christian American you are. So Russia can nuke all of Europe and you can care less?

I always said that whatever foreign aid is given to Ukraine, take out the portion which has to deal with our national security (which you are blind to) and send them a bill for the balance.

And I don’t think you can swallow anymore Kremlin propaganda, it’s dripping out of your mouth- you must be full.

For all we know.

One or more of them did think something was up and reported it.

Pretty par for the course for the feds.

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So why not spend more time railing against the massive waste known as social security? Medicare? HHS?

I can go on.

We are absolutely convinced that this is true

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But in reality it's this:

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You wouldn't even be able to see Ukraine aid on the map.

We do have a spending problem. Folks want to point out the tiny bits and make it seem like that's all that matters. We could cut Ukraine aid right now and wash our hands and it would make the budget balanced, taxes low, and Trump win, right?

Well...no.

You could cut 50% (Like I would if I was elected) and make a massive difference. Of course, the current front runner ran up the debt 8 trillion in his time and focused on even more.

Not uncommon. there are Russian cheerleaders here too.

I am not Christian, Europe can take care of itself, Americans are tired of subsiding the defense of a collective with a comparable economy

The second part of your tirade is the problem that most fervent Ukrainian supporters, it’s an erroneous statement that  anyone who does not support their  bull shit opinion is Russian propaganda

I have come to my opinion based on over 3 decades in the uniform of this Nation, deployed around the world that let me see how bad our government lies and how much corruption there is in our system.

I'm sure it happens on both sides.  These "influencers" get paid thru advertising and other deals.  If they are of this political/social variety they basically make a living by pushing whatever the message is in a way to stoke the most emotions in the viewer.  They have all basically monetized rage porn.  So no surprise that a hostile country might be using this to their advantage.

The FBI has notified me that I am the victim of a crime.

Merrick Garland said the same in his press conference.

I am the only person who ever had editorial control of my program. Period.

My attorneys are engaged. We are being smart. Stay tuned. pic.twitter.com/SDwdmyoU4X

Benny Johnson  (@bennyjohnson) September 6, 2024

Will you be returning the Russian money?

— Burt Macklin (@BurtMaclin_FBI) September 6, 2024

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Because this thread is about Ukraine, post a thread about any of those and I will say those need to be cut

You were “briefed?”

By whom?

Meanwhile, Chinese infiltrators have been caught cozying up to Dems and universities and that’s great!

Right. They’d want to silence him, hence the comment and addition to this thread.

implicated or trapped by DOJ just for election interference.

I think this also.

A jealous lesser paid influencer spilled the beans or there is an actual patriot in the mix. Maybe both.

I remember the 1980's where a lot of Americans of Irish decent contributed to the IRA just because they had an ancestral tie to Ireland.    I've got family ties to Ukraine and Poland but America is my country and there are reasons why my anchestors chose to leave the region.  I don't have an romantacized nor idealized view of Ukraine.

Excellent Points & Posts.

The Soviets / Russians have always attempted to "influence" America & Americans by whatever means possible.

Bigger_Hammer

Megyn is taking flak for this episode.



Megyn Kelly is joined by Dave Aronberg, host of "True Crime MTN," and Joel Pollak, author of "The Agenda," to talk about the DOJ indictment alleging Tenet Media is a covert Russian propaganda op, Lauren Chen's involvement and why she may not be getting charged right now, what Dave Rubin and Tim Pool are saying and what they actually did, how the corporate media is portraying this story, and more.

I have been a Republican all my life.

The Republican Party and it's so called "Influencers" have absolutely been infiltrated by Russian Propaganda. Now, whether that is paid for or just out of stupidity I don't know.

So many Republicans have been mentally broken by Covid Restrictions, Trump's Re-election being stolen, and Knee Jerk Hatred of Ukraine (because Biden Supports it).

Old School Republicans know that Russia has been our enemy since the Russian Revolution at the end of WW1. There was a brief moment in time after the collapse of Communism where they had the opportunity to change their ways and join the civilized world. They didn't.

Any "old school" values that are claimed by Russia are nothing like "old school" American values. Don't be stupid and fall for those arguments.

What exactly is this "Russian propaganda" they're spreading then?   Ukraine's failures?  What about things they talk about in America?  Are those things are fabricated by Russia?   The economy?   Biden's mental decline?   Crime?  Inflation?  Kamala being installed?

I still haven't heard anything other talking about Ukraine.

Yep.

"Any opinion I don't like is Muh Russia _{so that means we get to shame AND censor AND spy on people haha}" is fucking stupid, and the dumbfucks who enable it should be ashamed of themselves.


This is about justifying censorship and spying tools.

It's wild that the bed wedding babies watching MSNBC somehow try to play The Patriotism card and they're purity testing people now.

This is the party that forgets every cycle to bring an American Flag to their convention until somebody else points it out.

Anyone the believes DOJ propaganda should not be trusted.  "Republican"

Yep.
They would have thrown him under the bus for even the mildest of questions about the topic that can't be named.

Accusing people of being a Russian bot is the Bill-Kristol-Right's equivalent of calling people racist for flimsy reasons. A purity test to shame and silence.

To be fair the likes of Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney and John McCain were also life long Republicans, so it is possible to be a Republican and more concern with the well being of  other nations than ours.

My father use to collect for “the cause”, and later in his life he would admit the IRA had become a bunch of commies and he was wrong for sending them money.

It is when you do not support the official narrative.

Fair.

First go after alt-media, then communications.  The groundwork is being laid for a false flag blamed on the Russians.  Translation: The US is going to cut undersea cables

BREAKING: United States has detected increased Russian military activity around key undersea cables, and believes Russia may now be more likely to carry out potential sabotage operations aimed at disabling a critical piece of the world’s communications infrastructure - CNN pic.twitter.com/Ad5vS5BpkC

Insider Paper  (@TheInsiderPaper) September 6, 2024

It's the Russians doing the same thing we and everyone else since the beginning of time has done.
It would shock me if the Russians, Chinese, any other major power isn't funneling money to both radical right and left wing commenters in the US.
The opinions are the commenters, but they money funneled allows their voice to be amplified to help sow division.

Find dissatisfied groups, give them money, sit back and enjoy the show.

So, the Russians who have spent past decade developing the specialized capability to destroy underseas cables knowing the chaos & disruption it would cause in the far flung & widespread West...

Are going to be falsely blamed for the Evil USA ... attacking itself...



JFC talk about a timely example of simping for Russia...

Bigger_Hammer

Your enemy isn't in Russia.

And on the flip side.

Maybe there are no Russians. Or maybe they are double agents.

Maybe it was really a western intelligence operation to spy, entrap, and slander independent media personalities they dont like.

It must be all those spies within our government, the DOJ doesn't seem too concerned about legacy media taking money from the CCP.