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No tazers deployed? One officer could give him some juice and see how that worked. I don't know their policy on tazers, but in Texas even small town deputies carry them.

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homicide team investigates non-homicide?

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Why did the dog food druggy want to get into the rear hatch?

Long gun he couldn't bring through the plexiglass?

Who was the hero of the day?

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"Show me you hands" has got to be the single stupidest thing in current cop vocabulary.

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It's fairly easy for skinny men and females to slip the cuffs.

Standard cuffs only go down to a certain point.

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They need to stop cussing because it sounds stupid and it doesn't work.

It's not as if an armed suspect is going to say "Hang on .... he said to drop the "fucking" gun.  These guys are serious. I better do what they say.".

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Random handgun in a backpack?   Drop gun? Or someone not carrying their duty weapon?...not seeing why you would have spare handgun gun not on you.

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Something I’ve noticed as an instructor at limited access courses, though this is purely anecdotal.

The average patrolman has been taught to respond individually. Which makes sense. Unless on some more task oriented team that trains together frequently, there is little (if any in some cases) real preparation to integrate into a team with other patrolmen/individuals should the need arise. This was a big glaring problem back when the “active shooter” training started getting pushed out nationwide instead of just in population centers.

The result is what you see here. As the situation deteriorated, more individuals kept arriving and doing different versions of the same thing. Everyone seems to be waiting for someone else to come up with a plan, or to tell them what to do. Everyone’s shouting different versions of th same instructions that aren’t being followed, and it’s just random chaotic yelling. Which dude couldn’t hear anyway.

The initial shock is forgivable, once in the sally port you can see the laid back lack of urgency in everyone when she starts trying to get help. Once guns were drawn though, everyone just waited. I know some will say “it’s because of all the BLM stuff” but there’s a lot more wrong here than being afraid of the blowback of a shooting. Nobody was coordinating anything, nobody had a plan and it showed. Different individuals were doing their own thing but not communicating.

Fucking communicating at some of these courses was so bad. Besides yelling “let me see your fucking hands”, nobody’s talking to each other. AR dude almost gets popped by the kid with the camera who takes a shot from his rear left. AR cop by the way standing in the open like a confused statue while the kid who shoots is just juking back and forth. There’s cops behind every support pillar peeking out and nobody’s taking charge. Running from cover A to cover B to cover A to cover B.

When we did courses we’d put patrol guys, most of them having known each other for years, in a position that they had to work as a team to solve. If one guy was designated as the guy in charge in advance, it went pretty well. If it was a group of peers with nobody being the decision maker, it would look like this. A ton of yelling, a lot of shifting around in the same spot, and it would drag on.

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Oh look, another dangerous incident created by a female officer being a female officer.
-didn't cuff him properly (big surprise)
-leaves a weapon in car
-constantly flagging partners
-no tactical sense whatsoever
-they usually can't shoot for shit, they're worthless in DT/anything physical
-this is all the norm and general rule with rare exception
hell i bet her inserted mag, or one of her reloads, is not topped off to full.
they don't belong in LE, ever

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That was the most goddamn clown shoes shit I’ve seen in a long time. A month  ago he’d have been Swiss cheese the second they saw the gun. The level of risk they all assumed was absolutely insane.

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They’ll be more than one “expert” that’ll say that he’s contained in the vehicle and/or facility and the officers should make distance, contain him, and call SWAT to resolve the issue

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Give that dog a biscuit.

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What's the point of continuing shouting "Show me your hands!" to someone who has already ignored the command a dozen times and obviously has no intention of following that order, or any others for matter? And adding "fucking" into the sentence seems to have no effect whatsoever.

But it turned out ok, other than a $70k vehicle getting shot the fuck up.

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homicide team investigates non-homicide?

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I think who ever left their back up unsecured in the bag will get days on the beach or terminated.

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That is kind of surprising.
I am a skinny bastard and I doubt I could slip a pair of properly secured cuffs.

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I always kept my backup pistol on me. What a clown show though... Why the fuck would you intentionally walk into cross fire?

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They need to stop cussing because it sounds stupid and it doesn't work.

It's not as if an armed suspect is going to say "Hang on .... he said to drop the "fucking" gun.  These guys are serious. I better do what they say.".

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I've said over and over again we need two man team tactics training.