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Posted: 11/25/2019 5:53:03 PM EST
 Tesla Cybertruck pulls F-150 uphill |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 5:54:31 PM EST
[#1]
Sure, let's wait until traction's already broken, then give it tons of gas!
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Posted: 11/25/2019 5:55:14 PM EST
[#2]
More of a battle about friction and not power
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Posted: 11/25/2019 5:55:37 PM EST
[#3]
I’m sure it is probably better but. My initial thought is it has a shit load of heavy ass batteries in it and the f150 is empty.
It’s still ugly |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 5:55:53 PM EST
[#4]
Niiiiiice. Car of the future. Now make all the Tesla cars look 8bit.
Still better looking than an Aztec, a Juke, or those Jeep Cherokees with the long front end. I'd take a Tesla 8bit I've one of those any day. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 5:56:16 PM EST
[#5]
This is probably the least effective way to show off its capabilities.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 5:56:19 PM EST
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Posted: 11/25/2019 5:57:06 PM EST
[#7]
Are F150's going to be on Mars though?
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Posted: 11/25/2019 5:58:28 PM EST
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Are F150's going to be on Mars though? |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 5:58:39 PM EST
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This is probably the least effective way to show off its capabilities. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 5:58:49 PM EST
[#10]
Lol, the thing is huge! Dwarfs the f150
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:02:16 PM EST
[#11]
Let's see how it does with mud, snow and road salt.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:02:17 PM EST
[#12]
"Electric motors also have insane torque. If we load both trucks to the max, electric still wins. Physics is the law, everything else is a recommendation." -Elon Musk
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:03:41 PM EST
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Are F150's going to be on Mars though? |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:04:35 PM EST
[#14]
Empty 4x2 F150 vs 4x4 Rolling Lithium Bonfire
Of course the F150 is going to lose that battle. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:05:32 PM EST
[#15]
Fuck the Cybertruck.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:07:34 PM EST
[#16]
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"Electric motors also have insane torque. If we load both trucks to the max, electric still wins. Physics is the law, everything else is a recommendation." -Elon Musk Electric motors ask "what is a torque curve?" That said: Tesla thingy is AWD with power available at all 4 wheels, F150 appeared to be in 2wd, probably with an open diff. And the 8 bit truck has a shitload more tire on the ground then the F150. Tesla truck still would have won that battle but it wouldn't have been as dramatic with say a built diesel truck with lockers and similar size tires to the electric truck. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:07:46 PM EST
[#17]
In this thread we see people who don't understand electric motors.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:08:11 PM EST
[#18]
So what are the curb weights of each vehicle?
Because I bet you that Tesla weights a good deal more than the Ford. Tug of wars are stupid. ETA: and lots o’ torque |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:09:24 PM EST
[#19]
Who is this thing actually intended for? People who buy trucks don't even want something like that...do they?
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:11:18 PM EST
[#20]
Tesla truck bed full of batteries?
Ford truck bed full of cargo. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:11:20 PM EST
[#21]
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Let's see how it does with mud, snow and road salt. I like Teslas, I like electrics, pickup trucks will be the very last segment of consumer vehicles to be displaced by them. Also that truck looks like something I drew in 2nd grade. 
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:12:39 PM EST
[#22]
Meh. Still looks like something a 2nd grader drew in art class.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:13:43 PM EST
[#23]
Who pulls a boat literally 400 miles in a day for a day on the lake?
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:14:06 PM EST
[#24]
Why fight it?
Put F-1fitty in neutral, wait until polygon truck battery dies, (won’t be long towing), start truck & drive away pulling dead weight Tesla when it stops to refuel via the power of coal & steam. Put a few jerry cans of fuel in the bed of the pickup for extra fuck you range. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:14:29 PM EST
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This is correct. Electric motors ask "what is a torque curve?" That said: Tesla thingy is AWD with power available at all 4 wheels, F150 appeared to be in 2wd, probably with an open diff. And the 8 bit truck has a shitload more tire on the ground then the F150. Tesla truck still would have won that battle but it wouldn't have been as dramatic with say a built diesel truck with lockers and similar size tires to the electric truck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Electric motors also have insane torque. If we load both trucks to the max, electric still wins. Physics is the law, everything else is a recommendation." -Elon Musk Electric motors ask "what is a torque curve?" That said: Tesla thingy is AWD with power available at all 4 wheels, F150 appeared to be in 2wd, probably with an open diff. And the 8 bit truck has a shitload more tire on the ground then the F150. Tesla truck still would have won that battle but it wouldn't have been as dramatic with say a built diesel truck with lockers and similar size tires to the electric truck. I'd wager that any Tesla would pull that pickup. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:16:26 PM EST
[#26]
F150 facing downhill and Tesla uphill. Torque is a mother fucker.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:17:35 PM EST
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Who pulls a boat literally 400 miles in a day for a day on the lake? 
I pull a camper farther than that even. Obviously I'm spending more than a single day at the lake but it's doubtful this truck can do that on a single charge while under load which would make it utterly useless to me and pretty much anybody who tows with their trucks over distance. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:18:43 PM EST
[#28]
Let's see Electric vs Electric
 All-Electric F-150 Prototype: Tows 1M+ Pounds | F-150 | Ford Also, Ford is going to beat Tesla to production. By A lot. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:19:20 PM EST
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Who is this thing actually intended for? People who buy trucks don't even want something like that...do they? |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:19:50 PM EST
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Let's see Electric vs Electric  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lgAlso, Ford is going to beat Tesla to production. By A lot. Again, I like Teslas but this truck is absurdly stupid and Elon needs to lay off the bong before making another attempt at one. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:22:17 PM EST
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And cost less, have a national support network, not look like a lady's electric razor............. Again, I like Teslas but this truck is absurdly stupid and Elon needs to lay off the bong before making another attempt at one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's see Electric vs Electric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lgAlso, Ford is going to beat Tesla to production. By A lot. Again, I like Teslas but this truck is absurdly stupid and Elon needs to lay off the bong before making another attempt at one. As it will share probably 75% or more of the same parts as a regular, mass produced F150. You know, mirrors, body panels, trim parts, rims, brakes... |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:22:43 PM EST
[#32]
That was nowhere close to an even or honest tug of war.
Like the broken windows that weren't supposed to break, Musk fails again. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:24:57 PM EST
[#33]
Eh, not too impressed. Ford makes a lot of lame assed shit.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:25:23 PM EST
[#34]
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And cost less, have a national support network, not look like a lady's electric razor............. Again, I like Teslas but this truck is absurdly stupid and Elon needs to lay off the bong before making another attempt at one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's see Electric vs Electric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lgAlso, Ford is going to beat Tesla to production. By A lot. Again, I like Teslas but this truck is absurdly stupid and Elon needs to lay off the bong before making another attempt at one. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:28:27 PM EST
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I doubt it’ll cost less. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's see Electric vs Electric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lgAlso, Ford is going to beat Tesla to production. By A lot. Again, I like Teslas but this truck is absurdly stupid and Elon needs to lay off the bong before making another attempt at one. It will cost approximately the same. That’s how competition works. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:30:55 PM EST
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More importantly, you'll be able to you know, get parts for it. As it will share probably 75% or more of the same parts as a regular, mass produced F150. You know, mirrors, body panels, trim parts, rims, brakes... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's see Electric vs Electric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lgAlso, Ford is going to beat Tesla to production. By A lot. Again, I like Teslas but this truck is absurdly stupid and Elon needs to lay off the bong before making another attempt at one. As it will share probably 75% or more of the same parts as a regular, mass produced F150. You know, mirrors, body panels, trim parts, rims, brakes... |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:30:58 PM EST
[#37]
So a 4X2 vs a 4X4...yeah no.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:32:46 PM EST
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Tesla set the market segment price points. It will cost approximately the same. That’s how competition works. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's see Electric vs Electric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lgAlso, Ford is going to beat Tesla to production. By A lot. Again, I like Teslas but this truck is absurdly stupid and Elon needs to lay off the bong before making another attempt at one. It will cost approximately the same. That’s how competition works. But if an electric F150 comes to market that is equivalent on paper, costs less, and is to the market either before, or within 6 months of the first cybertruck delivered to a customer. I’ll eat my work boot. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:32:52 PM EST
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:33:50 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tesla set the market segment price points. It will cost approximately the same. That's how competition works. $40k gets you into the base Tesla with a range of 250 miles. $40k F-150 gets me into a XLT with a range limited by the number of gas stations along my route. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:34:40 PM EST
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Traction control resolution is orders of magnitude better with electric also, not that I think that's at play here. I'd wager that any Tesla would pull that pickup. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Electric motors also have insane torque. If we load both trucks to the max, electric still wins. Physics is the law, everything else is a recommendation." -Elon Musk Electric motors ask "what is a torque curve?" That said: Tesla thingy is AWD with power available at all 4 wheels, F150 appeared to be in 2wd, probably with an open diff. And the 8 bit truck has a shitload more tire on the ground then the F150. Tesla truck still would have won that battle but it wouldn't have been as dramatic with say a built diesel truck with lockers and similar size tires to the electric truck. I'd wager that any Tesla would pull that pickup. But I also bet that my tacoma in 4wd low would pull the ford as it sat in that test too. Ever watch a pit/support crew hold a drag car in a straight line while it is doing a burnout? 1-2 guys can steer the ass end of a car that is blowing the tires off. That is kind of what we are looking at here. ETA: Hopefully Tesla went back to the drawing board on the suspension for the Cybertruck. Because I watched someone try to take a model X offroad and it was awful. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:36:00 PM EST
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So a 4X2 vs a 4X4...yeah no. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:36:23 PM EST
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The best one is the one you own and can use.
Got a pic of one in your driveway? |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:36:24 PM EST
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If you try to convert an ICE frame to EV (Like the Mercedes EQC) you generally end up with a very sub-optimal EV. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's see Electric vs Electric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lgAlso, Ford is going to beat Tesla to production. By A lot. Again, I like Teslas but this truck is absurdly stupid and Elon needs to lay off the bong before making another attempt at one. As it will share probably 75% or more of the same parts as a regular, mass produced F150. You know, mirrors, body panels, trim parts, rims, brakes... |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:37:27 PM EST
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Thanks for the economics “lesson”. I’m fully aware of how competition works, and “approximately the same” could easily be 5-10k more for an equivalent truck, or a lesser truck for the same price. He didn’t say the same price, he claimed it would cost LESS. But if an electric F150 comes to market that is equivalent on paper, costs less, and is to the market either before, or within 6 months of the first cybertruck delivered to a customer. I’ll eat my work boot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's see Electric vs Electric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lgAlso, Ford is going to beat Tesla to production. By A lot. Again, I like Teslas but this truck is absurdly stupid and Elon needs to lay off the bong before making another attempt at one. It will cost approximately the same. That’s how competition works. But if an electric F150 comes to market that is equivalent on paper, costs less, and is to the market either before, or within 6 months of the first cybertruck delivered to a customer. I’ll eat my work boot. We’ve been waiting on the Gen 2 roaster, the Tesla semi truck now for 3ish years? |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:37:55 PM EST
[#46]
What the fuck ever...
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:38:46 PM EST
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I suspect the Tesla 8Bit would beat my F-350 in that tug. Instant torque and electronic traction control vs. 6.7 liters of diesel dually in 4LO? Yup.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:38:57 PM EST
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Lol
No one is towing anything substantial with an f159 anyways |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:39:00 PM EST
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Who pulls a boat literally 400 miles in a day for a day on the lake? |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:39:57 PM EST
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Who pulls a boat literally 400 miles in a day for a day on the lake?  Right!
I think I pulled mine 40 miles each way once. Once. I know about 20 people with boats and the farthest any of the pull theirs is about 25 miles. 25 miles in April to drop it into the lake, and 25 miles to pull it and put it in storage in October... unless they just have the guy pick it up for them. Honestly, that's the way to do it. No trailer, just have the storage place pick up and deliver right to the lake. Cheaper than buying and storing a trailer and way less work. |
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