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Posted: 12/23/2009 11:25:26 AM EST

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You're the one threatening to take up arms simply because some of us would support a peaceful separation. As if it's even about YOU. It's about a tyrannical federal government and court system that has defiled the Constitution time and time again over the last 100 years by enacting unconstitutional laws that have bent this once great nation into a grotesque caricature of it's former beauty and nearly bringing the Republic to the breaking point.

First off, I am not "threatening" anything.

If you think any attempt at secession would be bloodless or peaceful then you are delusional or the tin foil is leeching into your brain.

The ramifications of Texas leaving the US would have international repercussions. It would have gross ramifications for everyone else in the US. When ever the next "big war" happens, the US will be that much weaker.

Never mind the idea that once the US pulled all of its military out, you all are going to be defenseless against Mexico or anyone else with armed forces. They have made comments of wanting parts of Texas back only a few years ago, IIRC.

Let me take a wild guess...

Graduate of D_A's School of American Politics?

I have no idea what that means.

10,000 posts and you have no idea what that means.

Amazing!

Edit: I own page 7.

And to Texas, some of us here in the great state of Nebraska will be down to join in the fight

Posted: 12/23/2009 11:34:58 AM EST

[#2]

Quoted:

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You're the one threatening to take up arms simply because some of us would support a peaceful separation. As if it's even about YOU. It's about a tyrannical federal government and court system that has defiled the Constitution time and time again over the last 100 years by enacting unconstitutional laws that have bent this once great nation into a grotesque caricature of it's former beauty and nearly bringing the Republic to the breaking point.

First off, I am not "threatening" anything.

If you think any attempt at secession would be bloodless or peaceful then you are delusional or the tin foil is leeching into your brain.

The ramifications of Texas leaving the US would have international repercussions. It would have gross ramifications for everyone else in the US. When ever the next "big war" happens, the US will be that much weaker.

Never mind the idea that once the US pulled all of its military out, you all are going to be defenseless against Mexico or anyone else with armed forces. They have made comments of wanting parts of Texas back only a few years ago, IIRC.

Let me take a wild guess...

Graduate of D_A's School of American Politics?

I have no idea what that means.

It means you can't figure out the difference between a Republic and an Empire.

Posted: 12/23/2009 11:45:14 AM EST

[#3]

Quoted:

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You're the one threatening to take up arms simply because some of us would support a peaceful separation. As if it's even about YOU. It's about a tyrannical federal government and court system that has defiled the Constitution time and time again over the last 100 years by enacting unconstitutional laws that have bent this once great nation into a grotesque caricature of it's former beauty and nearly bringing the Republic to the breaking point.

First off, I am not "threatening" anything.

If you think any attempt at secession would be bloodless or peaceful then you are delusional or the tin foil is leeching into your brain.

The ramifications of Texas leaving the US would have international repercussions. It would have gross ramifications for everyone else in the US. When ever the next "big war" happens, the US will be that much weaker.

Never mind the idea that once the US pulled all of its military out, you all are going to be defenseless against Mexico or anyone else with armed forces. They have made comments of wanting parts of Texas back only a few years ago, IIRC.

Let me take a wild guess...

Graduate of D_A's School of American Politics?

I have no idea what that means.

It means you can't figure out the difference between a Republic and an Empire.

Why it always take a Texan to 'splain it

Posted: 12/23/2009 11:47:43 AM EST

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Quoted:

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You're the one threatening to take up arms simply because some of us would support a peaceful separation. As if it's even about YOU. It's about a tyrannical federal government and court system that has defiled the Constitution time and time again over the last 100 years by enacting unconstitutional laws that have bent this once great nation into a grotesque caricature of it's former beauty and nearly bringing the Republic to the breaking point.

First off, I am not "threatening" anything.

If you think any attempt at secession would be bloodless or peaceful then you are delusional or the tin foil is leeching into your brain.

The ramifications of Texas leaving the US would have international repercussions. It would have gross ramifications for everyone else in the US. When ever the next "big war" happens, the US will be that much weaker.

Never mind the idea that once the US pulled all of its military out, you all are going to be defenseless against Mexico or anyone else with armed forces. They have made comments of wanting parts of Texas back only a few years ago, IIRC.

Let me take a wild guess...

Graduate of D_A's School of American Politics?

I have no idea what that means.

It means you can't figure out the difference between a Republic and an Empire.

Why it always take a Texan to 'splain it

Because Texas (and the west except for Washington and California) are the last dregs of what remains of our freedom with the most descendants who still remember true freedom...imho.

Posted: 12/23/2009 5:53:40 PM EST

[#5]

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You're the one threatening to take up arms simply because some of us would support a peaceful separation. As if it's even about YOU. It's about a tyrannical federal government and court system that has defiled the Constitution time and time again over the last 100 years by enacting unconstitutional laws that have bent this once great nation into a grotesque caricature of it's former beauty and nearly bringing the Republic to the breaking point.

First off, I am not "threatening" anything.

If you think any attempt at secession would be bloodless or peaceful then you are delusional or the tin foil is leeching into your brain.

The ramifications of Texas leaving the US would have international repercussions. It would have gross ramifications for everyone else in the US. When ever the next "big war" happens, the US will be that much weaker.

Never mind the idea that once the US pulled all of its military out, you all are going to be defenseless against Mexico or anyone else with armed forces. They have made comments of wanting parts of Texas back only a few years ago, IIRC.

Let me take a wild guess...

Graduate of D_A's School of American Politics?

I have no idea what that means.

10,000 posts and you have no idea what that means.

Amazing!

Yeah - i don't follow every little tidbit of gossip and soap opera drama. I guess you're talking about Dave_A (?). I don't know what his school of thought is and I really don't care.

Posted: 12/23/2009 6:16:01 PM EST

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Because secessions always go so well.

OOOOH the pretentious sarcasm meter is off the charts. Good for you but I think you forgot

at the end of your post.

You seem to have a very limited recollection of history. There are far more examples of successful secession than of failed attempts.

Oh and as far as the OP: tldr

I'd like to see some of these example of successful secession and to see how well they fit the current world situation.

I'm sure you realize the reality that the US is in danger of becomingirrelevant on the world stage and turning into a bulkanized collectionof two or more countries will only jump this process ahead decades.

Can't wait for a china ruled world? Succession is the fastest way there.

Succession would have ruined us 145 years ago, and it will ruin us now.

This country was founded on succession.

Sucessful? Certainly.

However, it was a completely different time and completely different circumstances.

Different times, yes. Different circumstances, not really. Taxation without representation ring a bell.

Circumstances as in the world situation, and the potential for expansion.

Texas, and the rest of the US has nowhere to go but down.

Not so in 1776.

Posted: 12/23/2009 6:27:30 PM EST

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wow, it took me this long to see this thread? I assume that EXPCustom provided his usual drivel and that Dave_A pointed out the chances of this happening?

Have the A-10's left their hangers yet?

Posted: 12/24/2009 5:38:27 AM EST

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I'd be ok with dissolving the US completely, too.

However, doing that will require anullment of the Constitution by approval of 3/4 of the States. [span style='font-weight: bold;']The Federal government would never allow it to happen. They'd be arresting State legislators and occupying various State capitol buildings to prevent it.[/span[/]quote]

extremely bad idea.

Why?

No government lasts forever. This one is spoiled rotten.

I'd be A-ok with dissolving this one and re-evaluating our formal relationship with the other States. Some sort of Federal government would be a good thing, so long as it was kept small and inoffensive. Something kept strictly to overall national defense only.

I wouldn't even include an equivalent "interstate commerce" regulation power, as we've proven that our government cannot be trusted with such a power.

My bad quote made it unclear. This would be the bad idea on the fed's part

"They'd be arresting State legislators and occupying various State capitol buildings to prevent it."