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Posted: 8/5/2021 5:16:24 PM EDT
I kind of want one but can't really justify it in my head. When would I use one instead of a handgun or carbine?
I do have an over/under for sporting clays and pheasant hunting, but no other shotguns. |
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Well, you can 2 or more 1301s for the price of an m4.
I love my 1301 and only paid $850. |
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Yes, you need one. I have an M2 Tactical Entry 14" SBS and a VEPR 12. Semi auto is lots of fun. Why do you need one? For trench warfare of course.
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Quoted: Well, you can 2 or more 1301s for the price of an m4. I love my 1301 and only paid $850. View Quote I paid more than that for my 1301, but the damn thing rips. It has never stuttered, except that one time I added the Nordic tube and left the spring too long and it coiled into itself fully compressed. Before and since I trimmed it properly, that greedy bitch eats everything as fast as I can possibly pull the trigger. Edit: corrected spelling, *too* long, idk why that shit bugs me |
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12 Gauge AR (Gen 12) |
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Every single time I convince myself I need a tactical shotgun, it sits unused and I sell it.
Then a couple years later, the cycle repeats. |
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Shotgun is handy for a multi-purpose role, from dangerous game and methheads, to birds, bunnies, and bucks. It's one of the few "do it all" platforms really. A good semi auto, like a 1301 is a joy to shoot too.
So, look at it like a multitool. It also travels better from a state law angle too. |
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Yes. Either of those options are great choices. The 1301 is my choice. Lighter, faster cycle rate, and soft shooting. If I were going to war I’d probably take the BM4 but outside of that the 1301 is my go to. I own two a Gen 1 and Gen 2, never had a single malfunction out of either of them and the Gen 1 has over 10K shells through it. I have an LTT 1301T on order that will be my new primary scatter gun.
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A semi-auto shotgun is kind of necessity if you want to be competitive in 3-gun. Recoil operated are hypothetical less maintenance and more reliable, but I doubt guys with 1301s or m4s are having many, if any, malfunctions. It usually tends to be the same shotgun that chokes every round, probably because the guy's never cleaned it.
ETA - I was really surprised the first time I shot a slug, at 75 yards.. They're actually kind of accurate. |
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Quoted: Yes. Either of those options are great choices. The 1301 is my choice. Lighter, faster cycle rate, and soft shooting. If I were going to war I’d probably take the BM4 but outside of that the 1301 is my go to. I own two a Gen 1 and Gen 2, never had a single malfunction out of either of them and the Gen 1 has over 10K shells through it. I have an LTT 1301T on order that will be my new primary scatter gun. View Quote Ah, I'm so jelly. If I ever get back to work in the oilfield, I'm raiding Langdon's website for goodies. |
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meh. I can't picture when I would rather have a shotgun than an AR, I guess unless you need one for a match or just want one for fun.
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Quoted: A semi-auto shotgun is kind of necessity if you want to be competitive in 3-gun. Recoil operated are hypothetical less maintenance and more reliable, but I doubt guys with 1301s or m4s are having many, if any, malfunctions. It usually tends to be the same shotgun that chokes every round, probably because the guy's never cleaned it. ETA - I was really surprised the first time I shot a slug, at 75 yards.. They're actually kind of accurate. View Quote This is my other motivator. 2-gun competitions are few and far in between. I don't really care about who can reload a shotgun fastest, but if I have to do that to get to do the rest, then so be it. |
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Quoted: Jealous. Best I can find for 1301 is $1100 shipped (plus tax). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Well, you can 2 or more 1301s for the price of an m4. I love my 1301 and only paid $850. Jealous. Best I can find for 1301 is $1100 shipped (plus tax). Yeah, I was in the same boat. Couldn't find a 1301 less than $1100, so I got an m3k, and all the accessories for 3 gun, for less than $700. It gets the job done. I was afraid it would hiccup on lighter loads, but I haven't had any failures yet. |
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Quoted: meh. I can't picture when I would rather have a shotgun than an AR, I guess unless you need one for a match or just want one for fun. View Quote I was thinking the same as you can see by my previous post. I actually had a benelli M1 Super 90 years ago, but I never used it once I picked up my over/under. so I sold it. The one time I guess I had a little fudd in me |
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Quoted: This is my other motivator. 2-gun competitions are few and far in between. I don't really care about who can reload a shotgun fastest, but if I have to do that to get to do the rest, then so be it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: A semi-auto shotgun is kind of necessity if you want to be competitive in 3-gun. Recoil operated are hypothetical less maintenance and more reliable, but I doubt guys with 1301s or m4s are having many, if any, malfunctions. It usually tends to be the same shotgun that chokes every round, probably because the guy's never cleaned it. ETA - I was really surprised the first time I shot a slug, at 75 yards.. They're actually kind of accurate. This is my other motivator. 2-gun competitions are few and far in between. I don't really care about who can reload a shotgun fastest, but if I have to do that to get to do the rest, then so be it. I did my first 3-gun match with a short barreled 870. It was definitely doable, but not as flashy, and not as fast as everyone else. I think the heavy class requires a 12g pump |
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I'd say have a shotgun of some type but wouldn't say it HAD to be tactical or even semi-auto for that matter.
Much more likely to use it for hunting birds and such as opposed to methbillies and EOTW scenarios, let alone operating operationally with it |
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I really like my benelli m2, and super sport, and have berettas too.
You can do literally anything with them. I would get a good autoloader and go start shooting some clays . Get out in the duck blind. Go deer or turkey hunting with it . I had a benelli m4, about 10 years ago and the aftermarket wasn’t there for it at the time. They don’t do anything for me. A beretta gas gun will shoot a bit softer, but I’ve never cleaned my super sport or m2. Ever. |
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No, the same as I don't need to build an 870 12 gauge urban sniper in fde. I'm trying to see if I can build a lights out slug shotgun for inside 50 yard shots.
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Quoted: Shotgun is handy for a multi-purpose role, from dangerous game and methheads, to birds, bunnies, and bucks. It's one of the few "do it all" platforms really. A good semi auto, like a 1301 is a joy to shoot too. So, look at it like a multitool. It also travels better from a state law angle too. View Quote Agreed on the versatility and that is why I have a 12ga over/under. |
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That 1301 James Reeves of TFB TV used in his Thunder Ranch classes is a bad bitch.
i want one so bad. |
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Benelli M2. Long history of performance. Buy once cry once… and don’t cut corners on guns.
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I've had and sold all of them except the 1301 tactical (and comp)
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It's probably not a question of whether you need one and you know it.
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I have an A300 Outlander by Beretta.. bought it when I went shopping for an O/U
Now I still want an O/U but I like the Outlander for pheasant... Attached File |
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I have an M4 with the titanium tube. I like it a lot more than I seem to shoot it. It’s fun to shoot though.
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Quoted: I kind of want one but can't really justify it in my head. When would I use one instead of a handgun or carbine? I do have an over/under for sporting clays and pheasant hunting, but no other shotguns. View Quote Browning Auto 5 |
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Fo show. Ive got a 930 SPX but I would def do a 1301 if I could do it over again.
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I need one too...
Where are you buying the 1301? Online or local stores? And which one? 1301 Tactical, Pistol Grip, Comp? |
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I'm not a big shotgun guy, but running drills on multiple steel targets with a semi-auto tactical shotgun is a lot of fun and directly applicable to HD.
I have 3 Benelli M2s, but that Beretta 1301 Tactical does look pretty nice. |
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I bought a 1301 and LOVED it it’s such a badass shotgun ….. then I wanted to get some money up for NV and I thought to myself hmmmm which one of my guns can I get a good bit of money for and is also kinda useless …. I sold it lol
Seriously there is something about the idea of a semi auto tactical shotgun that is just so damn cool that you battle with your own common sense for reasons to buy one My shotgun uses mainly consists of busting clays with my O/U |
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LOL @ everyone saying Benelli to buy once and cry once....
http://dissidentarms.com/index.php/product/dissident-arms-kl-12/ |
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I'm seeing a 1301 Pro Comp in my near future. Well, just because. Just fondled a regular Comp and it was too short. (LOP) I know it's designed for use in battle rattle but I prefer my thumb not touching my nose when I shoot.
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Yes. You need one.
You should want a Benelli M2. If you want to press the easy button get one already ready to go from Hayes Custom Guns, or Mark Roth at Roth performance. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: No. And I use on for HD but you don't necessarily need one. https://media.giphy.com/media/eiYIqNxsXmmkjD7i9T/giphy.gif |
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