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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:26:38 AM EDT
[#1]
Yes. But it's definitely not for everyone. Weird shit REALLY does happen.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:30:42 AM EDT
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I’ve heard they make you laugh hysterically for a few hours and do weird shit like make Ragu pizza sauce sandwiches....at least that’s what a friend told me.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:32:04 AM EDT
[#3]
No
But one may think they are on a different plane of existence for a while. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:33:54 AM EDT
[#4]
In before the 87-hour JRE podcast
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:36:55 AM EDT
[#5]
You really can’t put words to it.
You have either experienced it or your haven’t. It’s binary. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:37:30 AM EDT
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I never saw things that weren’t there. I always heard about people having hallucinations where they straight up saw shit that wasn’t there. I never saw elves or visited strange lands or any of that shit. Half the time, I think people were making that up. Hell, I don’t know. Maybe you had to be a coloring book candidate to see He-Man on a trip.
Mine were always bizarrely reflective. I would ponder a lot of things. It definitely changes the way you think. I realized the real trip is not out of this world but out of your mind, out of the patterns of your thinking, the certainty of identity. Really, it’s a vacation from yourself. Can’t have that. Illegal. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:39:14 AM EDT
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It did for me. Changed my perception of the world.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:39:58 AM EDT
[#8]
It's more about what you do with it than vice versa. So, of course some people use it just to get high, and others use it to change their perception.
You can learn a lot about yourself and how you perceive the world. Part of it is like being able to look at the "source code," learning how tenuous the relationship is between what we perceive and what's there, and becoming aware of thought patterns that are so engrained that they're automatic. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:40:30 AM EDT
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I have a few of those friends that have no problems popping a pill to see what happens.
They said doing acid or DMT is very much dose dependent, and if you go into negatively you will have a very bad time. One guy told me you can't really explain what happens, but it feels like he crawled inside in his own head and got new senses and all these problems he thought he had suddenly made perfect sense and he didn't worry about them anymore, but the feeling and the memory of that feeling fades over time after you come down. Personally I think I'm far too uptight to have a good experience, so the stuff has always scared me. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:41:21 AM EDT
[#10]
No. They just made me giggle alot.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:43:06 AM EDT
[#11]
Why call bullshit? Just find out.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:43:39 AM EDT
[#12]
I don’t think I could handle it now. Too old, too sad, too fragile in body and mind.
At 40, I already miss my youth terribly. No wonder people are ready to die at the end. They’re probably like “just get this over with already.” |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:45:03 AM EDT
[#13]
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It's more about what you do with it than vice versa. So, of course some people use it just to get high, and others use it to change their perception. You can learn a lot about yourself and how you perceive the world. Part of it is like being able to look at the "source code," learning how tenuous the relationship is between what we perceive and what's there, and becoming aware of thought patterns that are so engrained that they're automatic. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:45:24 AM EDT
[#14]
Laughed for two hours. Stared at a rack of colorful coffee mugs for two hours. Discussed, excitedly, the prospect of eating banana bread on a nearby table for an hour. Did not consume banana bread.
And it was awesome. Edit: So I was told. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:46:13 AM EDT
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It did for me. Changed my perception of the world. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:50:57 AM EDT
[#16]
You definitely have to experience it to understand. It certainly makes you tap into parts of your brain you wouldn’t otherwise. Kind of like an unlock lol. It’s not for everyone though. Makes you see things for what they truly are in our existence and that is too much for some people to handle.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:51:12 AM EDT
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I don’t think I could handle it now. Too old, too sad, too fragile in body and mind. At 40, I already miss my youth terribly. No wonder people are ready to die at the end. They’re probably like “just get this over with already.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5867510/ |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:51:23 AM EDT
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Laughed for two hours. Stared at a rack of colorful coffee mugs for two hours. Discussed, excitedly, the prospect of eating banana bread on a nearby table for an hour. Did not consume banana bread. And it was awesome. Edit: So I was told. I’m curious if a sober observer would have witnessed a group of people speaking rapidly and doing things at a hyper increased pace. I swear it would seem like a half hour had passed and we’d look at our watches and it had been like five minutes. Of course, there weren’t any “sober” observers. It was just us and the temporary world our shared experience created. Maybe, that was the point.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:54:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not too late for you. Not every rafting adventure has to be in whitewaters https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5867510/ |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:54:39 AM EDT
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No. They just made me giggle alot. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:56:07 AM EDT
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No But one may think they are on a different plane of existence for a while. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 7:56:16 AM EDT
[#22]
Think about it this way...
You're whole life has been living in a fog. You don't notice the fog, because you have no context of what life is like without it. It's your reality. Then, one day you take a psychedelic. The fog rolls back, and for the very first time in your life... everything is vividly crystal clear, you're entire frame of mind is now like looking through tiffany glass. On a psychological level, that's what it feels like. Or so I've been told. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:01:29 AM EDT
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Our minds are already "expanded", there are just a number of things that have closed off our awareness as adults. Psychedelics can help to release those learned restrictions and inhibitions. This can be good and it can be bad, often both.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:02:12 AM EDT
[#24]
Clenches jaw
Been to big shows with 1000s of people To in the woods with friends. It is all about how you set out on your journey and where your mind takes you. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:02:47 AM EDT
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I never saw things that weren’t there. I always heard about people having hallucinations where they straight up saw shit that wasn’t there. I never saw elves or visited strange lands or any of that shit. Half the time, I think people were making that up. Hell, I don’t know. Maybe you had to be a coloring book candidate to see He-Man on a trip. Mine were always bizarrely reflective. I would ponder a lot of things. It definitely changes the way you think. I realized the real trip is not out of this world but out of your mind, out of the patterns of your thinking, the certainty of identity. Really, it’s a vacation from yourself. Can’t have that. Illegal. Sure was fun one night sitting on my apartment balcony looking at the trees blowing in the wind. I could have SWORN they looked just like Bilbo Baggins. This was in 1989. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:03:50 AM EDT
[#26]
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It's more about what you do with it than vice versa. So, of course some people use it just to get high, and others use it to change their perception. You can learn a lot about yourself and how you perceive the world. Part of it is like being able to look at the "source code," learning how tenuous the relationship is between what we perceive and what's there, and becoming aware of thought patterns that are so engrained that they're automatic. 
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:05:04 AM EDT
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Think about it this way... You're whole life has been living in a fog. You don't notice the fog, because you have no context of what life is like without it. It's your reality. Then, one day you take a psychedelic. The fog rolls back, and for the very first time in your life... everything is vividly crystal clear, you're entire frame of mind is now like looking through tiffany glass. On a psychological level, that's what it's like. Or so I've been told. Sometimes, I wonder if an afterlife exists, if it isn’t unlike a very spiritual trip with that feeling of completeness and peace. Wouldn’t it be nice if death was an illusion and didn’t signify the end of all your biological processes supporting consciousness and your ability to interact with the world because you really are just a bag of meat and bones that won the genetic lottery and the world is a mystery’ and this is the only life you’ll ever know. There have been genuine moments where I stared into infinity and felt “connected.” But, you know, acid. 
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:07:50 AM EDT
[#28]
Wouldnt say it ever expanded my mind, but you are certainly living in a different world for a while.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:10:09 AM EDT
[#29]
You guys are talking about SERIOUS DRUGS here! Schedule I! No medicinal value and HIGH risk for addiction!
There is a reason why you are a felon when you are caught with these EXTREMELY DANGEROUS substances!!! |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:11:00 AM EDT
[#30]
They make you very self-reflective and make you over analyze the shit out of anything you happen to think of.
The hallucinations are more of a change of perception of what is actually there, not hallucinating something that completely isn't there. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:11:59 AM EDT
[#31]
weed
shrooms beer thats it kids. i wouldnt trust anything else today. I heard someone (va maybe?) was using ketamine with great results on PTSD. Interesting there was a global push to ban ketamine a couple years ago. USA was the only hold out (animal medicine uses alot of it). |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:12:07 AM EDT
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Always heard from these people say that psychedelics expand your mind. But I've always wanted to call bullshit, and say it was just an excuse to have a good time. A mild experience on psychedelics (like psilocybin mushrooms) is like that but you aren't dreaming, you're there, aware and in awe. Your senses of touch, sound and light are amplified greatly. Plus other sense type feeling you can't express. I want to state that I'm not a hippy. It gives you a connection to those around you that almost feels like an extra sense. Either with your friends or your surroundings. An appreciation certainly erupts from you for every day objects you ignore. Perception of time becomes null whether long or short. I must say, it's certainly not an experience for everyone, like anything else in life. Some people have bagged, chips on their shoulders or buried emotions that surface. Crazy people get crazier. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:14:10 AM EDT
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You guys are talking about SERIOUS DRUGS here! Schedule I! No medicinal value and HIGH risk for addiction! There is a reason why you are a felon when you are caught with these EXTREMELY DANGEROUS substances!!! Going legal for medicial use in 2020 in Oregon. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:14:40 AM EDT
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Best description ever. Sure was fun one night sitting on my apartment balcony looking at the trees blowing in the wind. I could have SWORN they looked just like Bilbo Baggins. This was in 1989. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never saw things that weren’t there. I always heard about people having hallucinations where they straight up saw shit that wasn’t there. I never saw elves or visited strange lands or any of that shit. Half the time, I think people were making that up. Hell, I don’t know. Maybe you had to be a coloring book candidate to see He-Man on a trip. Mine were always bizarrely reflective. I would ponder a lot of things. It definitely changes the way you think. I realized the real trip is not out of this world but out of your mind, out of the patterns of your thinking, the certainty of identity. Really, it’s a vacation from yourself. Can’t have that. Illegal. Sure was fun one night sitting on my apartment balcony looking at the trees blowing in the wind. I could have SWORN they looked just like Bilbo Baggins. This was in 1989. [youtube]https://youtu.be/V3fZhJN4Tdc[/youtube] |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:14:55 AM EDT
[#35]
I heard you're not supposed to look in the mirror while using these substances.
 Trippin in a Mirror |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:15:08 AM EDT
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You guys are talking about SERIOUS DRUGS here! Schedule I! No medicinal value and HIGH risk for addiction! There is a reason why you are a felon when you are caught with these EXTREMELY DANGEROUS substances!!! |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:15:11 AM EDT
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Think about it this way... You're whole life has been living in a fog. You don't notice the fog, because you have no context of what life is like without it. It's your reality. Then, one day you take a psychedelic. The fog rolls back, and for the very first time in your life... everything is vividly crystal clear, you're entire frame of mind is now like looking through tiffany glass. On a psychological level, that's what it feels like. Or so I've been told. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:15:41 AM EDT
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I think they can make you more creative as they make you think/hear/see things differently but at the end of the day I I think the reasons people use to take them mask the fact they just want to get high.
I know a few people that take LSD regularly. Even when straight they are total whack jobs. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:17:32 AM EDT
[#39]
No, the "expanding of the mind" is the useful part of the brain shrinking and short circuiting.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:18:18 AM EDT
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You guys are talking about SERIOUS DRUGS here! Schedule I! No medicinal value and HIGH risk for addiction! There is a reason why you are a felon when you are caught with these EXTREMELY DANGEROUS substances!!! As for me, LSD definitely altered my personality a bit. I wouldn't say "expanded my mind", but it did allow me to.........explore? parts of my mind that I had previously ignored.........if that makes any sense. Like somebody else said, you really have to experience it in order to understand. It's really hard to explain to somebody with no frame of reference. Different drugs have different effects as well. LSD is different from Shrooms but both are rather mild and easy to control. Peyote is another animal. Holy fuck. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:18:19 AM EDT
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Research on psilocybin being done at Johns Hopkins and Harvard medical schools re end of life issues and general enlightenment.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:18:20 AM EDT
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You guys are talking about SERIOUS DRUGS here! Schedule I! No medicinal value and HIGH risk for addiction! There is a reason why you are a felon when you are caught with these EXTREMELY DANGEROUS substances!!! |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:18:26 AM EDT
[#43]
Shrooms are much more fun than acid.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:21:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. They mess up your processing and perception but your mind really isn't "expanded." |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:24:03 AM EDT
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Research on psilocybin being done at Johns Hopkins and Harvard medical schools re end of life issues and general enlightenment. ETA: https://www.isi.it/en/news-events/homological-scaffolds-of-brain-functional-networks-a-research-paper-explains-how-psilocybin-change-the-way-brain-behaves |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:26:07 AM EDT
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I have a few of those friends that have no problems popping a pill to see what happens. They said doing acid or DMT is very much dose dependent, and if you go into negatively you will have a very bad time. One guy told me you can't really explain what happens, but it feels like he crawled inside in his own head and got new senses and all these problems he thought he had suddenly made perfect sense and he didn't worry about them anymore, but the feeling and the memory of that feeling fades over time after you come down. Personally I think I'm far too uptight to have a good experience, so the stuff has always scared me. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:26:33 AM EDT
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They create a artificial chemical psychosis...they open the channels of psychosis and increase certain neuro- transmitters decrease others create rough to permanent "wound channels" for neuro transmitters to flow in... path of least resistance kind of thing...damage whether temporary or permanent depends on the individual's tolerance and dosage dependent.
Just my opinon |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:28:09 AM EDT
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Research on psilocybin being done at Johns Hopkins and Harvard medical schools re end of life issues and general enlightenment. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:30:44 AM EDT
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You guys are talking about SERIOUS DRUGS here! Schedule I! No medicinal value and HIGH risk for addiction! There is a reason why you are a felon when you are caught with these EXTREMELY DANGEROUS substances!!! No interest in it now, but I wouldn’t even know where to look. The shit these days would probably kill me anyway. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:31:06 AM EDT
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When I took LSD it was a bad experience. At seventeen years old our plans to have someone else do the driving went away and I was left to drive around all night with a friend who also was on LSD. It expanded my mind to see police lights flashing that weren't there and a lot of fear. We nearly got killed when we were on the interstate during construction at night. It went from 4 to 2 lanes and back again. Thought I we were on 4 lanes and it was two when I went past a semi going the same direction. I saw two head lights coming towards us as I was near the front of the semi we were passing. It was another semi. Before I could get ahead of or behind the semi I was passing both semis got partially off the road with our car between them as the oncoming semi passed us. All this at around 60 MPH.
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