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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:04:16 AM EST
[#1]
im calling BS
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:04:35 AM EST
[#2]
Bullshit story.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:05:06 AM EST
[#3]
I know brinks uses the FN 509.
Doubt they have any FA. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:05:35 AM EST
[#4]
Lol those guys look like they can barely get around their M&Ps they had back in the day
They use to come qual their guys on our range when I did the gun shop gig back in the day The instructor who worked for Brinks seemed squared away The dudes who drove the money around Im not sure were squared away enough for that |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:05:53 AM EST
[#5]
The ones I've seen usually carry some POS handgun.
I'm guessing sigma is their most common gun. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:06:04 AM EST
[#6]
All the ones I’ve seen have wheelguns or cheap autos (S&W sigma, Ruger P series)
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:06:04 AM EST
[#7]
Not at all.I was employed by one of them for 10 years. revolvers and shotguns. Varies by state law.,. But no full auto. We did have a mini-14 inside the building
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:07:23 AM EST
[#8]
I think they get issued six shooters and are allowed to carry their own firearm if it meets certain requirements. The job doesn’t pay all that well and often they aren’t carrying that much money. They’re insured.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:08:35 AM EST
[#9]
I bought a used truck from a guy that worked for an armored car company here in NJ. I did not know him personally but we got talking about guns and carry laws as they applied to him for his job. He carried a semi auto Glock at the time. I doubt they have full auto at their disposal.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:09:21 AM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
All the ones I’ve seen have wheelguns or cheap autos (S&W sigma, Ruger P series) |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:09:26 AM EST
[#11]
Almost never.
And you should say "armored" truck. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:10:29 AM EST
[#12]
Lol no
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:10:30 AM EST
[#13]
Hope they do. But I’m not sure
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:12:22 AM EST
[#14]
A late friend of mine who worked for Rochester as an armored car guard, carried a Ruger P95 9mm. He had to "qualify" once a year with it.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:14:06 AM EST
[#15]
No company has any sort of "special privileges" for FA. At best, a good old company like Brinks May have something pre-1986 lying around... but do you think that they are going to give Screw Up Steve a M16 to go about town with? Hell no. The potential liability is 10x more than what is being carried around in the truck.
If I managed an Armored Car company, they would have G17s on their hips and maybe an iron sighted 16" patrol rifle in the back. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:17:37 AM EST
[#16]
There were some armored car guys in a class with me that did that job did it with their duty revolvers. Some S&W modified so that they could not single action it. Seemed odd at the time, but watching them handle guns it made sense.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:17:59 AM EST
[#17]
Gardia is the company that picks up our money. They must have to buy their own stuff. Almost everyone of them has a Sigma. I’ve seen a few Taurus pistols, one Ruger SR9, a Ruger P95 and what looked like a Rossi revolver. They always look sloppy as hell too.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:18:23 AM EST
[#18]
I worked for one of the larger companies a few decades ago. I only worked in one branch, in one city... but I would call BS in general.
They had K-Frame and Ruger equivalent (SP-100?) .38 spl revolvers in the 'armory'. Employees could check out a revolver daily, or supply their own weapon. We didn't have anything beyond those .38's in the armory at my company. I know that inside some of the larger 'processing centers' and such that the security had some very nice stuff... I saw HK FA stuff being carried inside one big facility that handled a big pile of cash on the regular. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:18:57 AM EST
[#19]
Most carry revolvers. Life isn’t a cool, heist movie.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:19:16 AM EST
[#20]
I've only seen them around here with old wheel guns.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:19:58 AM EST
[#21]
Lol no. Not here anyway. Years back I worked an armed robbery - one was ambushed in the bank parking lot. IIRC they had Sigmas.
FWIW the guys that ambushed them did a pretty good job. Approached from blind spot and completely surprised them. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:20:20 AM EST
[#22]
The ones I've seen do good to carry semiautos. I always see revolvers.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:22:32 AM EST
[#23]
No, they don't.
I have seen them with Glocks (VERY rarely), Sig Sauer (that was back in the 90s when I was a little shit), now I only see them with FN or S&W. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:22:40 AM EST
[#24]
Average armored truck guys- No
Special case armored truck setups- Not in the truck:employee’s but the Escort’s have some legit shit. Same principal as DOE shipments. The truck itself may be a semi soft target but the escorts are not to be fucked with. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:23:22 AM EST
[#25]
10+ years ago my neighbor worked for Brinks(?) while he was going to college as a early 30's adult, after changing jobs. He was ecstatic when he was able to change from a revolver (can't remember the brand) to a S&W semi-auto. He said they weren't paid very well, but he did say they carried a decent amount of $$'s sometimes.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:24:37 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
All the ones I’ve seen have wheelguns or cheap autos (S&W sigma, Ruger P series) All they had were their pistols. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:25:35 AM EST
[#27]
One of the people that comes to one of my buildings regularly was asking about a job, claimed they only make $11.50hr. Insane.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:25:57 AM EST
[#28]
In his wet dreams they did.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:26:11 AM EST
[#29]
One of the companies around here used to have a 12ga pump and a 30-30 in the back of each truck. It's been quite a few years since I talked to any of tbeir guards so no idea what they have now besides their sidearms, if anything. I seem to recall seeing some old pictures of, IIRC, Brinks, guards posing with their old trucks and Thompsons. I'm thinking the pictures were from the '50s.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:26:29 AM EST
[#30]
I was in Mexico about ten years ago. I saw one with the money bag across his back with a strap, and he had a Mossberg 500 in his hands. He looked very frightened.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:26:36 AM EST
[#31]
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Lol no |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:27:08 AM EST
[#32]
No, just no...
I worked in armored cars as my first security job and you could carry anything you qualified with. Some had revolvers, most had semi autos. Military guys had Beretta M9 or 1911. I carried a 1911. No long guns were anywhere in the company. When I moved on to another company, we did diamond transports. On one run we each had our handgun, and in the truck was a shotgun and AR for each of us. All personal weapons. That was the only time I had a long gun for money or gems. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:27:42 AM EST
[#33]
In construction I used to do a lot of bank vault work. The kind of vaults where they wheel the money in on pallets.
Never saw any full auto stuff on any the Brinks guys. All the other armored car guys were fat and had wheel guns. The Brinks guys seem to be the most squared away. There seem to be however what I would call and A team When they were bringing big money in. Like multiple pallets. These guys showed up with the delivery. They were in shape and dressed like SWAT. Had backup guns. They were pretty serious. Anyway that's my cool story bro |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:28:13 AM EST
[#34]
yeah, I call BS too
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:28:58 AM EST
[#35]
The company might have some "in the armory", but they sure as hell aren't giving FA weapons to guys making $12/hr.
A lot of the bigger security firms have to maintain so many odd fucking licenses across all the professional, city, state, and federal agencies in order to get contracts. It's almost nothing for them to be an SOT and get a hold of whatever they want. That's either for show, or for federal dept of energy/nuke contracts. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:29:00 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
10+ years ago my neighbor worked for Brinks(?) while he was going to college as a early 30's adult, after changing jobs. He was ecstatic when he was able to change from a revolver (can't remember the brand) to a S&W semi-auto. He said they weren't paid very well, but he did say they carried a decent amount of $$'s sometimes. I was making $5.50 an hour. In 1994 |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:29:37 AM EST
[#37]
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Not at all.I was employed by one of them for 10 years. revolvers and shotguns. Varies by state law.,. But no full auto. We did have a mini-14 inside the building  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:31:23 AM EST
[#38]
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And if so, how? Does the company have some sort of exemption or workaround to get new ones (07/02?) or are they limited to pre-86 ones like everyone else? I used to work with a guy that had worked for an armored truck company 20+ years ago and he said he was given a stipend to buy a sidearm from an approved list, but he said they did have FA guns "in the armory". He was a bit of a story teller though so I'm wondering how realistic that claim is. Generally speaking, though, it's unlikely. Back then it would most likely have been shotguns and sidearms. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:34:34 AM EST
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:34:40 AM EST
[#40]
A little bit off subject, but I just remembered something else. A past employee of mine lived in a semi-rural setting on about 40 acres. Just across the paved county road from his house was a "drive thru Native American smoke shop". Every time a delivery truck delivered a load of cig's, it was early in the a.m. before the smoke shop opened. He said the truck was preceded AND followed by a sedan or SUV, and every time the truck made a delivery the lead vehicle pulled up, at least two guys with AR's got out and walked around the closed up bldg., then the truck pulled in, followed by the tail vehicle, and guys with AR's got out of it. They all stood around while the truck was unloading, then left and escorted the truck. Must be big bucks in stolen/hi-jacked cig's?? I know you don't see this when cig's are delivered to convenience stores, etc., maybe it was because it was a rural area? He did say that it had been broken into once or twice in the middle of the night. It had bars on all the windows. This wasn't in a "bad" area or neighborhood, just sparsely populated, semi-rural, a few miles from vast farmland area.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:35:46 AM EST
[#41]
I have only seen semi auto pistols only
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:36:24 AM EST
[#42]
I worked retail 2003-2005 in High School.
Brinks was our cash carrier, they were armed with .357 revolvers. I'm pretty certain the deterrent itself is the gun. Think "door locks dont actually stop anyone, they keep honest people honest" They aren't supposed to fight back if someone actually tries to rob them. Your local chubby brinks driver isnt going to get into a giant multi-magazine gun fight to protect $10k. It's fantasy. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:36:25 AM EST
[#43]
Lol
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:38:39 AM EST
[#44]
in Tennessee, armed security officers must be licensed by the Tennessee Department of Commerce and Insurance. By state law, they have to qualify on the weapon(s) they plan to carry when they take their certification class or wish to add a new gun to the list of those on which they are allowed to carry. They are limited to handguns chambered in 9mm or larger and 12 gauge shotguns. State regulations even say that shotguns are limited to 9 pellet 00 Buck.
It used to be that you could carry any handgun of the same type action and caliber as that which you'd used for qualification. So, if you qualified with a Glock 17, you could also carry a Glock 19. Or, if you qualified with a S&W 686, you could also carry a S&W 66. That changed a number of years ago and now, you can only carry the same exact gun you used for qualification. If you qualified with a Glock 19, serial numbered XYZ123, you could only carry Glock 19 serial number XYZ123. If it were at the gunsmith's and you wanted to carry Glock 19 serial number XYZ124, you better find an instructor and pay them so you can shoot the qualification course with XYZ124 and file the paperwork before you take it to work. (I briefly worked as an armed security guard after leaving the Army and also worked teaching the security guard licensing classes.) |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:39:19 AM EST
[#45]
Shit tier handgun in an Uncle Mikes or patent leather holster from what I've seen.
Doubt they receive any worthwhile training on it, just a deterrent. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:42:07 AM EST
[#46]
Haha! No.
I worked for Brink’s briefly in between PR jobs. We carried M&P 40s and had Rem 870s in the vault. Once in awhile someone would bring a shottie in the truck. As a note, only one or two of the guys fit the chubby, high drag stereotype. Several of the guys were prior .mil. Pay is shit. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:43:21 AM EST
[#47]
The Brinks guys that come to my office carry a Hi-Point and a Ruger.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:45:54 AM EST
[#48]
There is no such thing as an exemption for full autos. They could have some pre-86 transferables left over from years ago (which would be worth way to much to be used as daily guard duty guns) or its possible they could have an SOT or Title II manufacturers license. Even then I don't know how the ATF would treat that, as they would have to be actively engaged in selling or transferring guns, or manufacturing them. I believe its against the law to only have an SOT to strictly in order to possess post '86 machine guns.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:46:10 AM EST
[#49]
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The company might have some "in the armory", but they sure as hell aren't giving FA weapons to guys making $12/hr. A lot of the bigger security firms have to maintain so many odd fucking licenses across all the professional, city, state, and federal agencies in order to get contracts. It's almost nothing for them to be an SOT and get a hold of whatever they want. That's either for show, or for federal dept of energy/nuke contracts. https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/office-secure-transportation I don't think any commercial nuclear facility gets anything with a third-hole, except maybe the 3 TVA power plants. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:47:26 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: DOE provides their own security. https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/office-secure-transportation I don't think any commercial nuclear facility gets anything with a third-hole, except maybe the 3 TVA power plants. |
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