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Posted: 12/4/2020 5:03:32 PM EDT
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Continued...
 Attached File Attached FileInner belt is somewhat adjustable due to its attachment mechanism and it looks like you'll have 2-4" worth of waist sizes to stay within. Inner belt also has loop side Velcro on the outside of the tightening strap so it too will be 100% "functional/grippy" when tightened down.  Attached FileWith thin and light battle belts being all the rage these days, I think the GGG UGF is worthy of consideration. It appears to check most of the boxes. That said, this one is going on EE as I ordered the wrong size. |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 5:39:07 PM EDT
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Dumb question, I have a padded battle belt with velcro inner belt that I purchased here on the EE. How can I attached my newly acquired Safariland holster to it? There are no slits in the MOLLE outer to allow for the paddle to interface with the inner belt.
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Posted: 12/4/2020 5:43:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. I'd imagine Vertx has a better ability to manufacture soft goods. Smart idea by both companies IMO. I've never seen the original Unity Clutch, so I'm not sure how they differ, of if they do. https://vertx.com/tactical-clutch-belt Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sweet. I have a gray that is my edc. I use the elastic magazine kit that you can purchase and it works well. When you say Vertx is making them, can you get them on Vertx's site? Yep. I'd imagine Vertx has a better ability to manufacture soft goods. Smart idea by both companies IMO. I've never seen the original Unity Clutch, so I'm not sure how they differ, of if they do. https://vertx.com/tactical-clutch-belt |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 7:39:27 PM EDT
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First parts arrived today
 anxiously awaiting my Blue Alpha Gear MOLLE belt and Ragnarok holster. Attached File |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 8:54:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dumb question, I have a padded battle belt with velcro inner belt that I purchased here on the EE. How can I attached my newly acquired Safariland holster to it? There are no slits in the MOLLE outer to allow for the paddle to interface with the inner belt. Swapping to a UBL might be an option. Edit: Just realized you said padded. How wide is the belt?  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 9:04:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Swapping to a UBL might be an option. Edit: Just realized you said padded. How wide is the belt? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/122245/6F3EEDE3-577C-4F3D-A52C-D01BC655CA17_jpe-1715155.JPG 4". I'm not sure what brand it is, no labels. thought about modifying it by cutting slits in it for the UBL paddle, then burning them to keep from unraveling the nylon. |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 9:17:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dumb question, I have a padded battle belt with velcro inner belt that I purchased here on the EE. How can I attached my newly acquired Safariland holster to it? There are no slits in the MOLLE outer to allow for the paddle to interface with the inner belt. Not sure exactly what you are describing. The outer does have molle? If so, this? https://safariland.com/collections/holster-attachments/products/model-6004-8-small-molle-adapter-plate-23112 |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 9:23:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 4". I'm not sure what brand it is, no labels. thought about modifying it by cutting slits in it for the UBL paddle, then burning them to keep from unraveling the nylon. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Swapping to a UBL might be an option. Edit: Just realized you said padded. How wide is the belt? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/122245/6F3EEDE3-577C-4F3D-A52C-D01BC655CA17_jpe-1715155.JPG 4". I'm not sure what brand it is, no labels. thought about modifying it by cutting slits in it for the UBL paddle, then burning them to keep from unraveling the nylon. Ah. The UBL above runs 2.25” iirc. |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 9:35:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure exactly what you are describing. The outer does have molle? If so, this? https://safariland.com/collections/holster-attachments/products/model-6004-8-small-molle-adapter-plate-23112 It does have MOLLE webbing. This would work, would the webbing allow the holster to sag? |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 10:20:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It does have MOLLE webbing. This would work, would the webbing allow the holster to sag? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not sure exactly what you are describing. The outer does have molle? If so, this? https://safariland.com/collections/holster-attachments/products/model-6004-8-small-molle-adapter-plate-23112 It does have MOLLE webbing. This would work, would the webbing allow the holster to sag? I have no idea on that. Just remember seeing it as I was geeking out on holsters. I have seen one that was made from aluminum? Spendy at around $70 though. North(something?) Never heard of them just seen this while looking for a pic of the other one. https://truenorth-usa.com/product/modular-holster-adapter/ 
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Posted: 12/4/2020 10:28:54 PM EDT
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Does that True North holster adapter hold flat, as in not needing a leg strap? It looks interesting and solid.
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Posted: 12/4/2020 10:29:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you guys keep your kit so clean? Is there something you do? Mine looks like shit with old mud, blood and sweat even when I try and wipe everything down. You are actually using your gear. Good to go!! |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 10:31:13 PM EDT
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I want to be able to use my belt with a 1911 and a Glock 22. I know I can set up the holsters with the Safariland QLS system, but as far as I can tell I'm stuck threading my Esstac mag-pouches on and off for the different magazines. My belt is a 2" Atlas Duty Belt belt from Volund Gearworks. Any suggestions?
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Posted: 12/4/2020 10:32:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that True North holster adapter hold flat, as in not needing a leg strap? It looks interesting and solid. Haven’t a clue. Looks like aluminum so I imagine it could flop up a little and maybe for an aft but I wouldn’t think much. (This is all going off the photo though.) |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 10:34:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to be able to use my belt with a 1911 and a Glock 22. I know I can set up the holsters with the Safariland QLS system, but as far as I can tell I'm stuck threading my Esstac mag-pouches on and off for the different magazines. My belt is a 2" Atlas Duty Belt belt from Volund Gearworks. Any suggestions? Ten speed? https://www.blueforcegear.com/ten-speed-double-pistol-mag-pouch.html |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 10:36:37 PM EDT
[#16]
Damn I’m even more confused now. Grey Ghost or Esstac for belt?
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Posted: 12/4/2020 10:40:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn I’m even more confused now. Grey Ghost or Esstac for belt? I think you just summoned whiskers |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 10:42:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I ordered the G17 holster, but plan on using a G19 primarily. Did I f up? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That is correct. They use an oversized light mold that will fit the standard surefire and streamlight models like an X300, X300V, TLR-1, or TLR-VIR II. It will not fit lights with external laser modules like the TLR-2 IR or Surefire X400. The important consideration with the light-bearing ALS holsters is the holster locks onto the chamber area of the gun and indexes with a barrel plug. This means you cannot use a barrel longer than what the holster was made for. You also may have issues using a barrel shorter than the holster was designed for. As an example, a Glock 34 will not fit in a light bearing ALS for a Glock 17. A G19 will fit but it may not lock up correctly. With my holster for a full size P320, a full size M17 will lock into it with or without a light. A compact M18 will lock into it securely with a light attached, but without a light the gun can be twisted in a way to defeat the ALS lock without moving the lever. I ordered the G17 holster, but plan on using a G19 primarily. Did I f up? As others have said, it will work fine BUT, there is a considerable amount of additional vertical movement with a 19 in a 17 holster I do not like my guns moving in the holster, makes me unsure of the retention. I doubt it would fall out, it is still retained very well, it’s just a feeling ETA: I also don’t like the fact that I can reach in and touch the trigger because the mold is oversized for multiple light fit. I can’t pull the trigger, but again it’s a feeling of being unsure. The non light ones are much better |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 11:00:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Link to thread on handgun falling out. The poster who failed to locktight it was at fault. Who doesn't locktight screws on gear? It adds such minimal size to it I seriously doubt any claims saying its easier for aggressors to defeat purposely. The benefits on glock or beretta holsters is also minimal to the point I haven't gotten any for them. The 1911 ones are very beneficial ime. I will look for it, and yeah, loctite screws on stuff like this. I use a P80, and when I grip the gun, the als release is in the perfect position for me, and I don't see how adding anything taller is going to make it any better. To me, it would just make the release mechanism more obvious to anyone wanting your pistol. I have a GLS model, and I don't care for it because it releases when you grab the grip, so anyone who grabs the gun has a good chance of hitting it and releasing it without knowing how it works. The up side is it will fit a whole lot of pistols. |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 11:20:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to be able to use my belt with a 1911 and a Glock 22. I know I can set up the holsters with the Safariland QLS system, but as far as I can tell I'm stuck threading my Esstac mag-pouches on and off for the different magazines. My belt is a 2" Atlas Duty Belt belt from Volund Gearworks. Any suggestions? @Zakk_Wylde_470 https://blackhawk.com/quickmod-magazine-case/ |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 11:22:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I want to be able to use my belt with a 1911 and a Glock 22. I know I can set up the holsters with the Safariland QLS system, but as far as I can tell I'm stuck threading my Esstac mag-pouches on and off for the different magazines. My belt is a 2" Atlas Duty Belt belt from Volund Gearworks. Any suggestions? @Zakk_Wylde_470 https://blackhawk.com/quickmod-magazine-case/ Great option but damn she's spendy, especially since I'd need 3 of them 
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Posted: 12/4/2020 11:28:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn I’m even more confused now. Grey Ghost or Esstac for belt? Even though I purchased a GGG UGF, I also ordered a Blue Alpha. The BA Double Belt Rig appears to be the darling of this thread.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 11:30:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great option but damn she's spendy, especially since I'd need 3 of them Buy once, cry once every time you make even the slightest change to any of your gear. |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 11:45:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even though I purchased a GGG UGF, I also ordered a Blue Alpha. The BA Double Belt Rig appears to be the darling of this thread. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/Screenshot_2020-12-04_222850_png-1715404.JPG |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 11:49:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buy once, cry once every time you make even the slightest change to any of your gear. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Great option but damn she's spendy, especially since I'd need 3 of them Buy once, cry once every time you make even the slightest change to any of your gear.  Anyway I went ahead and ordered a 6354DO RDS for my Glock 22 and another Esstac Triple Gap KYWI for the mags, gonna give the one-wrap hack a try. |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 11:57:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn I’m even more confused now. Grey Ghost or Esstac for belt? Esstac bro. Come on man. |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 11:59:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I learned about them on this thread and then read and watched several YouTube videos on them. I bought with confidence and can't wait for it to arrive. Others may like other belts better, but I have yet to see a bad review or anyone saying it it less than awesome. Now that I have the GGG in hand... Looking at the Blue Alpha, two things come to mind. 1. The BA logo patch is huge and it is wasting valuable space. It should be a lot smaller and on the inside. 2. The outer belt strap should be routed to the inside like the GGG UGF. I hear they have quite a tail on them and most don't want to cut to fit and sear the frayed end because "muh, I might sell it one day". |
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Posted: 12/5/2020 12:33:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine hasn't even shipped yet.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Esstac Black Friday came through. Stupid USPS delivered my buddy's on Monday. Muh kryptec Muh cherrybalmz Muh esstac mag Literally all Whiskers talks about https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20201203_182150-1713517.jpg Mine hasn't even shipped yet. What is your order number? Myself, the owner, and his wife spent Thanksgiving night, all Friday, all of Saturday and all Sunday shipping orders... tomorrow will be our first day off since.... so unless you ordered something thats a pre-order or a less popular item it should have went out by now. |
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Posted: 12/5/2020 1:44:07 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to be able to use my belt with a 1911 and a Glock 22. I know I can set up the holsters with the Safariland QLS system, but as far as I can tell I'm stuck threading my Esstac mag-pouches on and off for the different magazines. My belt is a 2" Atlas Duty Belt belt from Volund Gearworks. Any suggestions? My 1911 mags fits decently well in the kiwi double stack mag pouch for most uses as long as your not doing somersaults or combat rolls. Or if you do, you could put a spacer in it for a snug fit. |
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Posted: 12/5/2020 2:53:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is your order number? Myself, the owner, and his wife spent Thanksgiving night, all Friday, all of Saturday and all Sunday shipping orders... tomorrow will be our first day off since.... so unless you ordered something thats a pre-order or a less popular item it should have went out by now. @RyanEsstac Just a belt and BF bundle. #19469 Ordered on 27 Nov, only received a confirmation email so far. Thanks |
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Posted: 12/5/2020 10:21:11 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn I’m even more confused now. Grey Ghost or Esstac for belt? Please allow me to further complicate things by suggesting Eagle Industries. 
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Posted: 12/5/2020 10:44:28 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please allow me to further complicate things by suggesting Eagle Industries. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Damn I’m even more confused now. Grey Ghost or Esstac for belt? Please allow me to further complicate things by suggesting Eagle Industries. Volund Gearworks 
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Posted: 12/8/2020 2:00:36 PM EDT
[#33]
Black Friday holster shipped from safariland
My belt will be the last thing to actually ship
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Posted: 12/8/2020 3:53:45 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Black Friday holster shipped from safariland My belt will be the last thing to actually ship My IFAK (Arfcom costing me more money) arrived today. Already have my Esstac pouches and Safariland holster (both suggestions from this thread) - my actual belt is also the only thing remaining! |
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Posted: 12/10/2020 9:44:58 AM EDT
[#35]
I bought a used battle belt, and it suits my needs just fine. I think I'll add another taco, and I need to stock my FAK and figure out a holster.
Two questions: Is Safariland the only/best holster? Seems like that's all I'm seeing recommended. I run a full size 1911 and want a little drop. Molle belt. What's in your FAK? TQ, Quick Clot gauze stuff, tampons, gauze pads, tape, disinfectant, gloves, aspirin, bandaids are what I plan to load mine with. Tweezers, hemostats, what else? |
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Posted: 12/10/2020 10:30:22 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought a used battle belt, and it suits my needs just fine. I think I'll add another taco, and I need to stock my FAK and figure out a holster. Two questions: Is Safariland the only/best holster? Seems like that's all I'm seeing recommended. I run a full size 1911 and want a little drop. Molle belt. What's in your FAK? TQ, Quick Clot gauze stuff, tampons, gauze pads, tape, disinfectant, gloves, aspirin, bandaids are what I plan to load mine with. Tweezers, hemostats, what else? I keep my belt IFAK relatively simple... TQ Quickclot Packing gauze Duct tape Small shears Decompression needle NPA Gloves And a 2nd TQ staged up front on belt |
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Posted: 12/10/2020 11:13:50 AM EDT
[#37]
The HSGI Slim Grip Slotted I ordered has been in USPS purgatory since Dec 3rd with no update after leaving the MO facility
 Living vicariously through you guys until further notice.
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Posted: 12/10/2020 12:16:03 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The HSGI Slim Grip Slotted I ordered has been in USPS purgatory since Dec 3rd with no update after leaving the MO facility Living vicariously through you guys until further notice.How long ago did you order it? |
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Posted: 12/10/2020 2:04:13 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How long ago did you order it? 11/30 |
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Posted: 12/10/2020 2:48:01 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 11/30 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How long ago did you order it? 11/30 Promising 
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Posted: 12/10/2020 2:51:43 PM EDT
[#41]
this thread is relevant to my current interests.
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Posted: 12/10/2020 5:50:16 PM EDT
[#42]
If you had $100 to get a belt, what would you recommend? Currently looking at the ats tac ltical mike kit.
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Posted: 12/10/2020 5:52:10 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you had $100 to get a belt, what would you recommend? Currently looking at the ats tac ltical mike kit. Stay away from that, I have one and it's garbage. |
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Posted: 12/10/2020 5:55:08 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you had $100 to get a belt, what would you recommend? Currently looking at the ats tac ltical mike kit. 
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Posted: 12/10/2020 8:04:08 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I keep my belt IFAK relatively simple... TQ Quickclot Packing gauze Duct tape Small shears Decompression needle NPA Gloves And a 2nd TQ staged up front on belt Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I bought a used battle belt, and it suits my needs just fine. I think I'll add another taco, and I need to stock my FAK and figure out a holster. Two questions: Is Safariland the only/best holster? Seems like that's all I'm seeing recommended. I run a full size 1911 and want a little drop. Molle belt. What's in your FAK? TQ, Quick Clot gauze stuff, tampons, gauze pads, tape, disinfectant, gloves, aspirin, bandaids are what I plan to load mine with. Tweezers, hemostats, what else? I keep my belt IFAK relatively simple... TQ Quickclot Packing gauze Duct tape Small shears Decompression needle NPA Gloves And a 2nd TQ staged up front on belt Why no compression bandage? I think I'd take quikclot and a compression bandage before I'd take packing gauze, although all three is preferable. Either way, to 1911fan, I would ditch the tampons, aspirin, and band aids for sure. The gauze pads are less than optimal for traumatic injury for what they are as well. My must-haves are a TQ, compression bandage, quikclot, chest seals. Second to that is gloves, tape, packing gauze, and an NPA. |
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Posted: 12/10/2020 8:21:09 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought a used battle belt, and it suits my needs just fine. I think I'll add another taco, and I need to stock my FAK and figure out a holster. Two questions: Is Safariland the only/best holster? Seems like that's all I'm seeing recommended. I run a full size 1911 and want a little drop. Molle belt. What's in your FAK? TQ, Quick Clot gauze stuff, tampons, gauze pads, tape, disinfectant, gloves, aspirin, bandaids are what I plan to load mine with. Tweezers, hemostats, what else? TQ Combat gauze (kaolin impregnated gauze) Compression bandage Chest seals One pair nitrile gloves Tampons are for women's purses. Not for trauma medicine. Full stop. No. You don't need tape, disinfectant, hemostats, tweezers, asprin, etc for an IFAK. Tape isn't terrible, but it gets gross easy, and there's not necessarily much you really need it for at this level. The stuff you have is insufficient for a medical bag, and overkill for an IFAK. And judging by the fact you think tampons belong in an IFAK makes me think you need to get some medical training before you touch anything. |
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Posted: 12/10/2020 9:25:18 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why no compression bandage? I think I'd take quikclot and a compression bandage before I'd take packing gauze, although all three is preferable. Either way, to 1911fan, I would ditch the tampons, aspirin, and band aids for sure. The gauze pads are less than optimal for traumatic injury for what they are as well. My must-haves are a TQ, compression bandage, quikclot, chest seals. Second to that is gloves, tape, packing gauze, and an NPA. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I bought a used battle belt, and it suits my needs just fine. I think I'll add another taco, and I need to stock my FAK and figure out a holster. Two questions: Is Safariland the only/best holster? Seems like that's all I'm seeing recommended. I run a full size 1911 and want a little drop. Molle belt. What's in your FAK? TQ, Quick Clot gauze stuff, tampons, gauze pads, tape, disinfectant, gloves, aspirin, bandaids are what I plan to load mine with. Tweezers, hemostats, what else? I keep my belt IFAK relatively simple... TQ Quickclot Packing gauze Duct tape Small shears Decompression needle NPA Gloves And a 2nd TQ staged up front on belt Why no compression bandage? I think I'd take quikclot and a compression bandage before I'd take packing gauze, although all three is preferable. Either way, to 1911fan, I would ditch the tampons, aspirin, and band aids for sure. The gauze pads are less than optimal for traumatic injury for what they are as well. My must-haves are a TQ, compression bandage, quikclot, chest seals. Second to that is gloves, tape, packing gauze, and an NPA. |
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Posted: 12/10/2020 10:01:03 PM EDT
[#48]
These shotgun cards good for tampons?
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Posted: 12/10/2020 10:35:16 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you had $100 to get a belt, what would you recommend? Currently looking at the ats tac ltical mike kit. Esstac |
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Posted: 12/10/2020 10:41:54 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Esstac Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you had $100 to get a belt, what would you recommend? Currently looking at the ats tac ltical mike kit. Esstac I just wanted someone else to say it.
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