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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:29:50 AM EST
[#1]
"Crusade" instead of "Jihad?"
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:33:17 AM EST
[#2]
moisture intensifies
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:34:59 AM EST
[#3]
I should read those books. It's one series I've never gotten around to.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:36:57 AM EST
[#4]
Can't wait.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:37:18 AM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Crusade" instead of "Jihad?" I noticed that, not sure how i feel about it. Not sure if it's an attempt to be PC, or just a result of teh word "jihad" being now tied so closely to real-world terrorism. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:38:32 AM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I should read those books. It's one series I've never gotten around to. Definitely read at least the first book, Dune, before the movie comes out. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:39:24 AM EST
[#7]
wow.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:40:24 AM EST
[#8]
Holy shit that looks good. I can't wait.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:40:27 AM EST
[#9]
Interesting comment: The song being played is a reworking of Pink Floyd's Eclipse from Dark Side of the Moon, which is clearly a nod at Jodorowsky's concept for his original Dune movie; Pink Floyd was set to perform music for that original and I think we may get a beautiful homage to some of Jodorowsky's vision here.
Quote HistoryQuoted: I noticed that, not sure how i feel about it. Not sure if it's an attempt to be PC, or just a result of teh word "jihad" being now tied so closely to real-world terrorism. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Crusade" instead of "Jihad?" I noticed that, not sure how i feel about it. Not sure if it's an attempt to be PC, or just a result of teh word "jihad" being now tied so closely to real-world terrorism. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:40:46 AM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Crusade" instead of "Jihad?" The Butlerian Jihad was in the past. If he is talking about a future event, either word might be appropriate. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:40:52 AM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I should read those books. It's one series I've never gotten around to. My favorite series of all time. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:40:56 AM EST
[#12]
I've never read the books, and never saw the movie with Sting and Kyle Maclachlan. About all I remember from snippets I've seen of that one is the fat guy floating around and Sting saying "I will KILL him!"
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:42:35 AM EST
[#13]
Ohh, oh, oh
He who controls the Spice, controls the Universe! |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:43:00 AM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Definitely read at least the first book, Dune, before the movie comes out. If you don’t they movie won’t make sense. It is a very complicated story. The visuals look very good. It is a brutal story with a lot of pain. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:43:24 AM EST
[#15]
Looks good, but I'm just not convinced you can condense the book into a movie with good results.
Its not about it being super high brow literature or anything, there is just a lot going on. This might have been better suited to a netflix series. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:43:45 AM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never read the books, and never saw the movie with Sting and Kyle Maclachlan. About all I remember from snippets I've seen of that one is the fat guy floating around and Sting saying "I will KILL him!" I like the 80's movie but it was a pretty poor adaption from a script that obviously didn't understand what Dune was about. The Sci-Fi network miniseries they did were a much better take on it. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:43:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Crusade" instead of "Jihad?" The "Jihad", in Dune-verse, is a Fremen (them being descended from the "zensunni") concept. Paul, if he's talking prior to having lived with them, would likely use the term "Crusade" (the Known Universe at large is mostly some kind of weird Christian-derived melange). Of course, Herbert confuses things because everyone calls the revolt against the Machines the Butlerian Jihad. Eh. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:45:09 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The "Jihad", in Dune-verse, is a Fremen (them being descended from the "zensunni") concept. Paul, if he's talking prior to having lived with them, would likely use the term "Crusade" (the Known Universe at large is mostly some kind of weird Christian-derived melange). Of course, Herbert confuses things because everyone calls the revolt against the Machines the Butlerian Jihad. Eh. The Orange Bible ETA: I haven’t read the books, only watched the original film and then read up on the stories. I feared the reading the books would ruin the movie for me. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:46:41 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks good, but I'm just not convinced you can condense the book into a movie with good results. Its not about it being super high brow literature or anything, there is just a lot going on. This might have been better suited to a netflix series. I think i saw somewhere that it is going to be 2 movies just to cover the story in Dune. Still probably not enough, but way better than doing it in 1 movie. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:47:05 AM EST
[#20]
36 years later, looks like it is finally getting proper presentation on the big screen.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:47:17 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I noticed that, not sure how i feel about it. Not sure if it's an attempt to be PC, or just a result of teh word "jihad" being now tied so closely to real-world terrorism. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Crusade" instead of "Jihad?" I noticed that, not sure how i feel about it. Not sure if it's an attempt to be PC, or just a result of teh word "jihad" being now tied so closely to real-world terrorism. Both are theologically driven military campaigns against unbelievers. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:47:38 AM EST
[#22]
Currently reading the first book. This will be the only movie that can drag me back into a theater.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:48:05 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Butlerian Jihad was in the past. If he is talking about a future event, either word might be appropriate. In the book he constantly references the potential Fremen conquest as a jihad. Not sure if I care if they change it in the movie. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:48:16 AM EST
[#24]
Dune was one of my childhood favorites. Wife says that’s what’s wrong with me.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:48:53 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Currently reading the first book. This will be the only movie that can drag me back into a theater. Aside from reading the books, the same for me. I’ll go to the theater for this one. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:49:34 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Both are theologically driven military campaigns against unbelievers. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:50:19 AM EST
[#27]
I'm actually excited to see a movie this decade.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:50:26 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In the book he constantly references the potential Fremen conquest as a jihad. Not sure if I care if they change it in the movie. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Butlerian Jihad was in the past. If he is talking about a future event, either word might be appropriate. In the book he constantly references the potential Fremen conquest as a jihad. Not sure if I care if they change it in the movie. Right - but that is AFTER he meets them, right? If the quote from the trailer is from before he meets them, then it could be appropriate. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:50:28 AM EST
[#29]
All watch...
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:50:41 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Butlerian Jihad was in the past. If he is talking about a future event, either word might be appropriate. https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Muad'Dib's_Jihad |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:51:03 AM EST
[#31]
Well, that looks amazing. It won't take much to improve on a David Lynch film so my bar is pretty low, but the casting, tone and visuals seem on point.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:51:29 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: One was defensive in nature, the other a conquest. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Both are theologically driven military campaigns against unbelievers. That is what both sides would say.  Also, the crusade against the Cathars wasn’t “defensive” - it was about rooting out perceived heresy. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:52:04 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Right - but that is AFTER he meets them, right? If the quote from the trailer is from before he meets them, then it could be appropriate. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:52:26 AM EST
[#34]
Looks good idk if the pink Floyd fits well
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:52:35 AM EST
[#35]
Cool. That kid is a good actor.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:53:35 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Right - but that is AFTER he meets them, right? If the quote from the trailer is from before he meets them, then it could be appropriate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Butlerian Jihad was in the past. If he is talking about a future event, either word might be appropriate. In the book he constantly references the potential Fremen conquest as a jihad. Not sure if I care if they change it in the movie. Right - but that is AFTER he meets them, right? If the quote from the trailer is from before he meets them, then it could be appropriate. Don't care either way though. Both words mean the same thing to me. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:54:41 AM EST
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The dominant religious text at the time was the Orange Catholic Bible, which was a mix of all major old Earth religions.
It was supposed to be a fusion of all significant religious thought in human history, with a strong emphasis on religious beliefs originating on Earth. These included the Maometh Saari, Mahayana Christianity, Zensunni Catholicism, and Budislamic traditions. It was produced by the Commission of Ecumenical Translators in the wake of the Butlerian Jihad. https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Orange_Catholic_Bible |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:55:58 AM EST
[#38]
I will watch this movie. I hope they don't screw it up...
ETA: Looking for to belt shield/dagger combat! |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:57:25 AM EST
[#39]
Looks like a solid trailer, except for Zendaya being garbage in every role.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:57:58 AM EST
[#40]
I'm a pretty pessimistic guy about Hollywood's ability to make any movies that don't club you over the head with current day politics but this trailer looks pretty decent.
I loved Bladerunner 2049 (same director) but I'm still leery of some of the woke signaling I've seen in the prerelease press for this movie. While I'm still not OK with the completely unnecessary gender swapping of Kynes, the rest of the casting seems pretty dang good. Jason Momoa in particular looks like a great Duncan Idaho. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:58:03 AM EST
[#41]
No worms?
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:58:17 AM EST
[#42]
Why does Hollywood insist on sticking to a now very tired and worn out formula for trailers? Deep BOOM sounds to create a sense of dread, with an older pop/rock song, redone in a super slowed down dramatic fashion?
I love Dune 1984 (we are watching it now with our 14 year old), so I'm not so sure about this one yet. So much CGI, the worms look fake as crap. Maybe it's just the way the trailer is done. I loved Bladerunner 2049 so I have hope. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:58:56 AM EST
[#43]
I'm in.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:59:27 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No worms? You didn't watch the trailer I take it. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:59:49 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No worms? Know how I can tell you didn't watch the trailer? |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 12:00:14 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is what both sides would say. Also, the crusade against the Cathars wasn’t “defensive” - it was about rooting out perceived heresy. It was justified. The Cathars were racists. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 12:00:21 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No worms? LOL? |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 12:01:01 PM EST
[#48]
Is that Drax playing the Beast Raban?
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Posted: 9/9/2020 12:01:06 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Know how I can tell you didn't watch the trailer? Just watched it.....I’m at work and slightly distracted. I’ll watch it again. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 12:01:24 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No worms? End of the trailer |
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