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Posted: 7/7/2021 5:51:13 PM EDT
In need to cut out this bottom section of the Truss
So I know I’ll have to weld up more angle above the bottom angle to take the load the bottom piece was supporting Obviously I’m gonna weld the new angle in before cutting old out But where do I weld in the new angle?  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 5:52:30 PM EDT
[#1]
Why are you cutting it out? Is this every truss or just one? Do you/will you have anything hanging from that truss? What type of roof is on the barn? Clean up and organize that place, looks like a bunch of coonasses use it.
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Posted: 7/7/2021 5:52:49 PM EDT
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Just curious. Why do you need to cut it?
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Posted: 7/7/2021 5:56:39 PM EDT
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What could possibly go wrong with cutting the main tension member of the truss?!
How’re going to size the welds/development lengths required? |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 5:57:21 PM EDT
[#4]
This is extremely vague....
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Posted: 7/7/2021 5:58:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are you cutting it out? Is this every truss or just one? Do you/will you have anything hanging from that truss? What type of roof is on the barn? Clean up and organize that place, looks like a bunch of coonasses use it. Just one truss the garage door tracks are running into it |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:00:04 PM EDT
[#6]
Don't cut it, find some way for the track to move away from it.
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:00:26 PM EDT
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I'll take "What was the last question asked by the Maintenance Supervisor at the Surfside Condominium Complex in Miami?" for $400, Alex.
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:00:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just one truss the garage door tracks are running into it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why are you cutting it out? Is this every truss or just one? Do you/will you have anything hanging from that truss? What type of roof is on the barn? Clean up and organize that place, looks like a bunch of coonasses use it. Just one truss the garage door tracks are running into it Yeah, I’d figure out another way. You could weld a gusset plate to either side of the truss, (also notched) and extending at least a foot or so past the notch but I’d engage an engineer. Of course, I’m just a good ole boy GC, I don’t know shit. As mentioned above, this is frowned upon by the propeller head types (and for good reason) |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:05:03 PM EDT
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How much interference?
What you should do is add a truss on either side located to clear the doors. Just one if it's not too far. If the segment barely interferes, then the truss could be modified with a dog leg and gussets. If there is a ton of interference you could add a chord parallel to the one you want to cut, full length from the lower end to the mid span. I would add two, one on each side to maintain symmetry. (Prevent racking.) The connections to the diagonals will be the trick. You absolutely do not want to cut that element out without replacing the load path. |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:08:33 PM EDT
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OP, How much clearance do you need? |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:10:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I’d figure out another way. You could weld a gusset plate to either side of the truss, (also notched) and extending at least a foot or so past the notch but I’d engage an engineer. Of course, I’m just a good ole boy GC, I don’t know shit. As mentioned above, this is frowned upon by the propeller head types (and for good reason) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why are you cutting it out? Is this every truss or just one? Do you/will you have anything hanging from that truss? What type of roof is on the barn? Clean up and organize that place, looks like a bunch of coonasses use it. Just one truss the garage door tracks are running into it Yeah, I’d figure out another way. You could weld a gusset plate to either side of the truss, (also notched) and extending at least a foot or so past the notch but I’d engage an engineer. Of course, I’m just a good ole boy GC, I don’t know shit. As mentioned above, this is frowned upon by the propeller head types (and for good reason) Yeah it’s sucks because I’m 8” too low on that truss |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:10:51 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, How much clearance do you need? 8” |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:12:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much interference? What you should do is add a truss on either side located to clear the doors. Just one if it's not too far. If the segment barely interferes, then the truss could be modified with a dog leg and gussets. If there is a ton of interference you could add a chord parallel to the one you want to cut, full length from the lower end to the mid span. I would add two, one on each side to maintain symmetry. (Prevent racking.) The connections to the diagonals will be the trick. You absolutely do not want to cut that element out without replacing the load path. From the bottom chord i need 8” and the height of the truss is 21” |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:13:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:13:58 PM EDT
[#15]
yeah that looks like a very bad idea.
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:15:05 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryShould have done a barn door on a track. |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:15:40 PM EDT
[#17]
maybe plate on both sides.
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:16:46 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 8” Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: OP, How much clearance do you need? 8” damnit, if it was an inch or two you could have cut your verticals and made up the diff in the top roller assy. |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:17:11 PM EDT
[#19]
Be much easier to put in a roll up door.
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:17:45 PM EDT
[#20]
Full weld a plate of 1/4 on one side that covers the entire truss for like half the length. Then cut your notch
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:19:46 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Should have done a barn door on a track. Quote HistoryQuoted: Should have done a barn door on a track. yeah I thought about that, I should have because this sort of sucks ATM |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:19:53 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From the bottom chord i need 8” and the height of the truss is 21” Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How much interference? What you should do is add a truss on either side located to clear the doors. Just one if it's not too far. If the segment barely interferes, then the truss could be modified with a dog leg and gussets. If there is a ton of interference you could add a chord parallel to the one you want to cut, full length from the lower end to the mid span. I would add two, one on each side to maintain symmetry. (Prevent racking.) The connections to the diagonals will be the trick. You absolutely do not want to cut that element out without replacing the load path. From the bottom chord i need 8” and the height of the truss is 21” The next question: Where is the interference? At the joint with a diagonal? Near the center? How wide is the door rail? I have an idea that might not be too obnoxious to install depending on the location of the interference, and simpler than what I suggested above. This stuff always depends on the details. . |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:20:11 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: maybe plate on both sides. That would be stronk AF |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:21:11 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Be much easier to put in a roll up door. Yup. Doesn't take up too much ceiling space if you want to later add overhead storage too. You dun goofed. |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:22:26 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Be much easier to put in a roll up door. Roll up door isn't gonna work, it needs to look residential |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:22:47 PM EDT
[#26]
Cut a plate of steel the full height for each side with a notch cut in it for the track or whatever. Bolt it straight through from one place to the other in many multiple locations.
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:23:46 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The next question: Where is the interference? At the joint with a diagonal? Near the center? How wide is the door rail? I have an idea that might not be too obnoxious to install depending on the location of the interference, and simpler than what I suggested above. This stuff always depends on the details. . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How much interference? What you should do is add a truss on either side located to clear the doors. Just one if it's not too far. If the segment barely interferes, then the truss could be modified with a dog leg and gussets. If there is a ton of interference you could add a chord parallel to the one you want to cut, full length from the lower end to the mid span. I would add two, one on each side to maintain symmetry. (Prevent racking.) The connections to the diagonals will be the trick. You absolutely do not want to cut that element out without replacing the load path. From the bottom chord i need 8” and the height of the truss is 21” The next question: Where is the interference? At the joint with a diagonal? Near the center? How wide is the door rail? I have an idea that might not be too obnoxious to install depending on the location of the interference, and simpler than what I suggested above. This stuff always depends on the details. . if you can tell in the pic, the top of the track needs to go up 8", it's a bad pic I know. that's what you are asking? |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:23:58 PM EDT
[#28]
It isn’t too late to install a rolling overhead door.
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:24:15 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cut a plate of steel the full height for each side with a notch cut in it for the track or whatever. Bolt it straight through from one place to the other in many multiple locations. Gusset plates would need to be welded, not bolted |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:24:19 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Roll up door isn't gonna work, it needs to look residential Paint fake panels and or windows on it |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:24:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryGet a smaller garage door and frame it to fit. |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:24:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:24:38 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cut a plate of steel the full height for each side with a notch cut in it for the track or whatever. Bolt it straight through from one place to the other in many multiple locations. dude Im a coonass, I am gonna weld it in. 
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:24:43 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cut a plate of steel the full height for each side with a notch cut in it for the track or whatever. Bolt it straight through from one place to the other in many multiple locations.  |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:25:06 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Get a smaller garage door and frame it to fit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Get a smaller garage door and frame it to fit. i need the height |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:26:41 PM EDT
[#36]
Here for the Lulz
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:27:05 PM EDT
[#37]
Just cut the track short and never raise the door all the way
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:28:00 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here for the Lulz You gone see |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:28:05 PM EDT
[#39]
What if you put the WHOLE garage on jacks?
Bump it up the 8" and BAM. No need to weld anything. |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:28:15 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just cut the track short and never raise the door all the way ARE YOU A WIZARD? |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:28:59 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What if you put the WHOLE garage on jacks? Bump it up the 8" and BAM. No need to weld anything. This all comes back to when I told my FIL that I needed to make my poles 15' and not 14', he said, no they need to be 14' 
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:30:32 PM EDT
[#42]
Haha. Love me some truss thread!
OP gonna get raped. |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:31:21 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just one truss the garage door tracks are running into it You do realize that the door will ride up higher than the rollers and the track, right? |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:32:49 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Haha. Love me some truss thread! OP gonna get raped. You’re not the one who posted about wood trusses for a pole barn are you? IIRC that thread was pretty funny. |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:35:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Should have done a barn door on a track. Quote HistoryQuoted: Should have done a barn door on a track. Your idea with a decent length doubled up and notched gusset plate may be the best way. OP, contact your door dealer and inquire about a low headroom track set or conversion and see if they can give you the difference in dimensions. If i remember it drops the spring height from 15" to 9" but I cant remember if it drops the horizontals down as well. Also take mention that the door sits above the track so if you need 8" for the track you'll need another 2" or 3" clearance as the door traverses. |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:36:17 PM EDT
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I think cutting either top or bottom strut would take all the strength of the beam out. It would basically reduce to the strength of just the thickness of one of the metal struts. Don't do it.
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:38:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This all comes back to when I told my FIL that I needed to make my poles 15' and not 14', he said, no they need to be 14' Who's barn / shop / building is this, anyway? 
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:39:47 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This all comes back to when I told my FIL that I needed to make my poles 15' and not 14', he said, no they need to be 14' Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What if you put the WHOLE garage on jacks? Bump it up the 8" and BAM. No need to weld anything. This all comes back to when I told my FIL that I needed to make my poles 15' and not 14', he said, no they need to be 14' |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:40:32 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Gusset plates would need to be welded, not bolted Makes sense. |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:40:36 PM EDT
[#50]
Instead of 90° angled track peices you can get 80°?
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