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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:25:01 PM EDT
[#1]
When you can't innovate-- litigate!
Seriously though -- that's a ridiculous argument on FN's part. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:25:52 PM EDT
[#2]
SCAR thread
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:26:54 PM EDT
[#3]
Be interesting to see what they are claiming is a violation.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:27:25 PM EDT
[#4]
Interesting points made in the article provided by OP...
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:28:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhat is going on with that bipod? I've never seen one like that before. Nice rig though!
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:28:18 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Be interesting to see what they are claiming is a violation. So far, one of their claims is "SFAR" looks like "SCAR" not kidding |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:29:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So far, one of their claims is "SFAR" looks like "SCAR" not kidding Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Be interesting to see what they are claiming is a violation. So far, one of their claims is "SFAR" looks like "SCAR" not kidding Avatar appropriate. Is FN joking? That's absurd. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:29:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Be interesting to see what they are claiming is a violation. It's a .308! 
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:30:49 PM EDT
[#9]
That’s dumb as shit, the only thing it has in common is that it’s a rifle wtf
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:32:44 PM EDT
[#10]
Does FN think they own 5moa accuracy standards?
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:32:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Damn, now I want to buy one.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:33:33 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Be interesting to see what they are claiming is a violation. It’s shape like a gun, it’s .308, it has a four letter acronym for its name |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:33:48 PM EDT
[#13]
That reminds me, I have a couple Ruger's in mind that I need to go purchase.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:33:49 PM EDT
[#14]
Patent attorneys need new boats and sheit too!
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:34:23 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote History300BLK PSA Jakl count right? Wittle baby SCAR 
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:34:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So far, one of their claims is "SFAR" looks like "SCAR" not kidding And it’s semi automatic and shaped like a rifle |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:35:18 PM EDT
[#17]
So what's the piss all over. SFAR looks like an AR (with different bolt) and the FN looks like an FN.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:40:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what's the piss all over. SFAR looks like an AR (with different bolt) and the FN looks like an FN. FN be all jealous and shit |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:45:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is going on with that bipod? I've never seen one like that before. Nice rig though! It looks like an Accu-tac bipod, maybe a WB-5? |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:46:59 PM EDT
[#20]
Has FN lost a customer?
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:47:53 PM EDT
[#21]
Only link I can find is a 2020 patent infringement case.
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/32771897/FN_Herstal,_SA_v_Sturm,_Ruger__Co,_Inc |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:48:11 PM EDT
[#22]
I worked for HK against ATI/GSG, so why not FN?
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:48:54 PM EDT
[#23]
As someone who works with IP/trademarks professionally, this should be fun to watch. If the FN case is that "SFAR" looks too much like "SCAR" they should get a well-deserved slapdown.
I can't see any other similarities they could sue over in either the trademark or patent, since they share no operating design elements beyond being semi-auto in the same caliber. If FN cites some super broad patent that covers most semi-auto rifles (there are lots of very overly-board patents on the books so it's possible that is their intent) they are really asking to get their patent revoked. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:50:28 PM EDT
[#24]
I want the SFAR to be awesome, but mostly mixed reviews so far
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:51:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FN be all jealous and shit They shouldn't be the SCAR is still a completely different animal. I handled the SFAR at a gun store recently and was less than impressed. Or are they finally admitting their price point is keeping more guns on the shelves than projected. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:51:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I worked for HK against ATI/GSG, so why not FN? You are comparing apples to toasters. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:53:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only link I can find is a 2020 patent infringement case. https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/32771897/FN_Herstal,_SA_v_Sturm,_Ruger__Co,_Inc |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:56:04 PM EDT
[#28]
I can't find any actual evidence of a lawsuit over the SFAR. Does OP have a link to there they heard this?
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:58:35 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So far, one of their claims is "SFAR" looks like "SCAR" not kidding Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Be interesting to see what they are claiming is a violation. So far, one of their claims is "SFAR" looks like "SCAR" not kidding They don't even remotely look anything alike |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:58:53 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I want the SFAR to be awesome, but mostly mixed reviews so far Add a new handguard and gas block and it’s a handy, reliable rifle. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:59:43 PM EDT
[#31]
Looks nothing like a SCAR.
 Looks a whole lot like an AR...
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:59:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:00:09 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They don't even remotely look anything alike Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Be interesting to see what they are claiming is a violation. So far, one of their claims is "SFAR" looks like "SCAR" not kidding They don't even remotely look anything alike I believe he’s referring to the similarity of the acronyms. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:01:19 PM EDT
[#34]
Lawsuits are back out, looks like the manufacturers are getting hungry again.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:02:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe he’s referring to the acronym. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Be interesting to see what they are claiming is a violation. So far, one of their claims is "SFAR" looks like "SCAR" not kidding They don't even remotely look anything alike I believe he’s referring to the acronym. If I was Ruger I would win the case and then rename it SKAR just to be petty. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:04:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:04:58 PM EDT
[#37]
TM or patent? IMHO if TM, there's little to no likelihood of confusion between those two word marks.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:05:13 PM EDT
[#38]
Lol
FN will show Ruger just like Trijicon showed Holosun. 
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:07:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't find any actual evidence of a lawsuit over the SFAR. Does OP have a link to there they heard this? https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ncmd.98070/gov.uscourts.ncmd.98070.1.0.pdf |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:09:40 PM EDT
[#40]
Nevermind
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:11:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s shape like a gun, it’s .308, it has a four letter acronym for its name To be fair: SCAR SFAR They only changed one letter out of 4, and it's in the same position. At least they didn't do SKAR, that would have been too much, right? I'd rather have a SCAR |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:12:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only link I can find is a 2020 patent infringement case. https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/32771897/FN_Herstal,_SA_v_Sturm,_Ruger__Co,_Inc https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ncmd.98070/gov.uscourts.ncmd.98070.1.0.pdf |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:13:22 PM EDT
[#43]
I know who Kel-Tec is rooting for.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:14:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:15:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To keep the lefty, happy Ruger should've went with CLOT short for combat lifesaving automatic tool. Advertisements could've said, get yourself a CLOT Shot & lefty would've revered it. I have no idea what you are talking about. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:18:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I can't find any actual evidence of a lawsuit over the SFAR. Does OP have a link to there they heard this? https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ncmd.98070/gov.uscourts.ncmd.98070.1.0.pdf It's really about the name? F those guys. I hope the 2A community dunks on them with memes forever. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:22:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair: SCAR SFAR They only changed one letter out of 4, and it's in the same position. At least they didn't do SKAR, that would have been too much, right? I'd rather have a SCAR Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It’s shape like a gun, it’s .308, it has a four letter acronym for its name To be fair: SCAR SFAR They only changed one letter out of 4, and it's in the same position. At least they didn't do SKAR, that would have been too much, right? I'd rather have a SCAR The SFAR is a relatively new product, and I already knew the name was short for Small Frame Automatic Rifle, which is exactly what it is. The SCAR has been around for 15 years, and I had to look it up. SCAR is "Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle?" 
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:25:26 PM EDT
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So an off brand, crap contract mfgr, wants to sue Ruger? FANTASTIC! The people at Ruger must be laughing their asses off! Your SCAR is shit, no matter how many idiots overpay for it! Your contract rifles Sucked Ass also????????
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:36:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does FN think they own 5moa accuracy standards? Damn double kill. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:38:50 PM EDT
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Quote History |
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