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Posted: 3/16/2017 4:48:17 PM EST

This happened in an affluent suburb.....he was a a captain with spirit airlines ....wow
Couple found dead while children sleep....

Brian Hayle was a pilot for Spirit Airlines, the company confirmed to this news organization.

A couple identified as Brian and Courtney Halye were found dead in their Centerville home after two children in the home called 9-1-1 saying their parents were unresponsive.

Coroner says deaths appear to be fentanyl related

9-1-1 calls: Two kids in the home said their parents wouldn’t wake up
We’re still working to get an official cause of death and more on Brian Halye’s pilot work history

“Captain Hayle served at the airline for just over nine years,” said Paul Berry, the company spokesman. “Our hearts go out to the family, friends and colleagues of Captain Hayle.”

Hayle flew his last flight March 10, the company said.

UPDATE @ 5:11 p.m.

The Centerville Police Department released two 9-1-1 calls made by two children in the home where Brian and Courtney Halye were found dead.

A 13-year-old boy told the dispatcher, "my two parents, I just woke up, and my parents are on the floor. My sister said they are not waking up."

His sisters found their parents dead on the floor of their bedroom upstairs.

He went on to say his parents had been fine the night before.

The dispatcher determined 4 children were in the home-ages 13, 11, 10 and 9.

One of the 3 girls also called 9-1-1 and said to the dispatcher, “my mom's on the floor and my stepdad, they're not waking up...we just woke up for school.”

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:49:16 PM EST

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Sucks for those kids....

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:49:51 PM EST

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I thought FAA mandates drug screening for pilots?

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:50:34 PM EST

[#3]

damn, thats brutal. I really feel for those kids.

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:50:55 PM EST

[#4]

Jesus that's awful.

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:51:27 PM EST

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To save the google search:

Fentanyl is a powerful synthetic opioid analgesic that is similar to morphine but is 50 to 100 times more potent. It is a schedule II prescription drug, and it is typically used to treat patients with severe pain or to manage pain after surgery. It is also sometimes used to treat patients with chronic pain who are physically tolerant to other opioids. In its prescription form, fentanyl is known by such names as Actiq®, Duragesic®, and Sublimaze®.Street names for fentanyl or for fentanyl-laced heroin include Apache, China Girl, China White, Dance Fever, Friend, Goodfella, Jackpot, Murder 8, TNT, and Tango and Cash.

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:51:31 PM EST

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First time user, possibly?

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:51:44 PM EST

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Poor kids.

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:51:45 PM EST

[#8]

Terrible for the kids.

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:51:46 PM EST

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What is fentanyl again? And, if it's a recreational drug, glad it happened at home and not in the air.

ETA: Nevermind...answered.

I wonder if it was a case of some doctor going "here, take this"

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:51:59 PM EST

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Fentanyl is 100 times more powerful than morphine. It hits hard.

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:52:11 PM EST

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I'm amazed the stuff is still legal. It's extremely powerful, sneaks up on users, mistakes get made.

There's someone at the local hospital trying to rehab with bone cancer from it.

Given bad directions from the doctor with a mistake; you're dead.

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:53:39 PM EST

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Murder - suicide?? Dayum..
Sux for the little ones. Hope there's family nearby that will keep them together.

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:54:33 PM EST

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What is fentanyl again? And, if it's a recreational drug, glad it happened at home and not in the air.

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Fentanyl is an opiate, like morphine. Hits faster and much harder but goes away faster.
It is used in the operating room by anesthesia mostly. Cancer patients also receive it in various forms (patches, etc.)
In the ICU it is used as an infusion for critically ill patients.

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:57:37 PM EST

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Drug tests only punish weed smokers.

You can do heroin, meth or cocaine on the weekend and pass a test by the end of the next work week.

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:57:54 PM EST

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Trying to find a fuck to give and coming up empty.

The dude was a fucking airline pilot and on junk? Good riddance.

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:57:59 PM EST

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On an unrelated note, why did they mention it was a "blended" family? What does that have to do with anything?

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:58:52 PM EST

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For those asking. Fentanyl is often mixed in with heroin to give the illusion of a stronger product. It gives a strong powerful high, is cheap as fuck, but the high doesn't last as long as heroin.

Dealers will even mix hot batches, adding fentanyl to intentionally cause an overdose because the junkies hear about it and want to buy the product that caused an OD.

And the ever popular photo. Fatal dose of heroin next to one for fentanyl:

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:00:40 PM EST

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Sad story for the kids.

Two druggies dead, I can't find the fucks to give... Except for the kids and the mess their irresponsible parents left behind.

We have a pain clinic in our hospital. If 5 of us arfcommers were sitting around a table, and split the single doses of about 25% of the patients, we would all die.

Opiate users build a tolerance pretty quickly, and if you keep ramping up their intake, the tolerance grows. Most people can't take fentanyl if they are not opiate tolerant.

The fentanyl deaths come from casual users of opiates who get their hands on real patches or doctored ones, powder or pills. Hey baby, I got these pills that look like Vicodin, but are a little stronger, wanna give em a go? Then they take fentanyl pills and their kids find them the next day.

Kinda like when a new batch of heroin hits the streets and it is way more pure than what people are used to. They bang their normal load and keel over dead.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:00:42 PM EST

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There's someone at the local hospital trying to rehab with bone cancer from it.

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Used for what it is intended it is a good thing...used for recreation it is an extremely bad thing.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:01:41 PM EST

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Ironically schedule 2, which means the feds think it is less bad for you than pot.....

Edit. Cancer patients seem to think pot helps their situation....so same use as fentanyl (reduces suffering)

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:02:04 PM EST

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They are better than us. They embrace diversity.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:02:13 PM EST

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Dumbasses

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:02:44 PM EST

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Did he have a prescription? Why were they both using it?

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:03:27 PM EST

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Sounds like they were both doing heroin since they said they found "paraphernalia". Likely the heroin was laced with fentanyl

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:03:40 PM EST

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Remember kids, pot is nearly as bad.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:04:37 PM EST

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No, its sched 1. Feds say pot is worse

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:05:35 PM EST

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Is fentanyl a pill, or is it taken via IV?

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:05:38 PM EST

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There's someone at the local hospital trying to rehab with bone cancer from it.

Given bad directions from the doctor with a mistake; you're dead.

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When it's administered by professionals using pharmaceutical-grade products, it's quite safe. I've had fentanyl twice that I know of when I had surgery; it's an awesome drug.

When it's self-administered by non-medical professionals using street-grade crap that could be cut with anything, then it can be quite deadly.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:05:42 PM EST

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Remember kids, pot is nearly as bad.

No, its sched 1. Feds say pot is worse

True, I stand corrected.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:06:01 PM EST

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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:06:12 PM EST

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This is what happens when you outlaw Marijuana...

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:06:31 PM EST

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WOW......

At least he wasn't flying while high. But, that brings us to the question of employment and drug testing.

Aloha, Mark

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:08:01 PM EST

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LOL. Prescription.

Most likely they were opiate addicts, probably pills, who switched to heroin/fentanyl as an easier-to-get replacement.

Mexican cartels are bringing that shit in by the boatload. As another poster mentioned, dealers are cutting their shitty heroin with it to up the potency.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:08:17 PM EST

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Meh, just because they pissed in a cup, doesn't mean anybody actually bothered to check it for drugs.

I'm waiting for an airplane right now. Too bad it isn't Spirit, lol.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:08:56 PM EST

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Had they not taken the drugs at the same time, wouldn't have happened.

If you are breathing 20 times a minute and I give you 100 MICROgrams of Fentanyl, you might start breathing 8 times a minute, less or more, depending on many factors.
Let's say you are only breathing 2 times a minute. You will be awake, hazed, but if I tell you to take a breath, you will. So, I can keep you going as you will respond to commands. Now, if you breath slowly for too long then your carbon dioxide builds up in your blood and it makes you go to sleep. Now, someone is going to have to inflict alot of pain (surgery is good for that) to cause you to breath. Or maybe breath for you. Since both of them were down no one could coach the other to breath or intervene.
Now mix in alcohol or another depressant and all bets are off, you have to be skilled enough to rescue their airway as they possibly will not respond or breath.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:09:09 PM EST

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The deaths appear "drug related due to paraphernalia found at the scene," according to Officer John Davis, the Centerville Police spokesman.

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Heroin laced with fentanyl

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:09:10 PM EST

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Both. For my surgeries, they shot it into my IV. It made me laugh uncontrollably.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:09:11 PM EST

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Damn, this happened right up the road from me. I thought Chillicothe was supposed to be the bad area? Centerville is actually a nice area. Just ate some City BBQ there last weekend.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:09:50 PM EST

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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:11:35 PM EST

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Most commonly IV. Patches are common. They also have lollipops for kids. This is the legal prescribed stuff.

I would imagine the stuff the cartel's chemists cook up is powder form and used like heroin.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:11:40 PM EST

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What is fentanyl again? And, if it's a recreational drug, glad it happened at home and not in the air.

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Nope. Fentanyl is used in a patch for chronic pain/cancer patients. There are a few othe methods for it indicated for cancer patients. If they both were down, it's rather obvious that they were two assholes trying to get high.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:12:29 PM EST

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On an unrelated note, why did they mention it was a "blended" family? What does that have to do with anything?

They are better than us. They embrace diversity.

The Brady Bunch were a "blended family".

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:13:11 PM EST

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I'm amazed the stuff is still legal. It's extremely powerful, sneaks up on users, mistakes get made.

There's someone at the local hospital trying to rehab with bone cancer from it.

Given bad directions from the doctor with a mistake; you're dead.

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Not an issue because medical professionals prescribe/use it in MICROgrams. I've used it extensively without problems because math works if you use it.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:13:20 PM EST

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The brand name stuff used to be called Sublimaze--------(Sublime Haze). Makes you feel nice and warm with ZFG.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:13:36 PM EST

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On an unrelated note, why did they mention it was a "blended" family? What does that have to do with anything?

They are better than us. They embrace diversity.

Going by context, I'm going to guess they were referring to the children coming from previous marriages/relationships. One of the children referred to the pilot as "step-dad" and the sentence in the article about them being a "blended family" referred to children being from previous ~~marriages~~
relationships.

Y'all keep being outraged if you want, though.

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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:13:45 PM EST

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anyone who thinks this current opiate epidemic is just a poor, white trash, brown and black person problem has their head in the sand. this is hitting at every level and demographic of our society.

Posted: 3/16/2017 5:13:51 PM EST

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Trying to find a fuck to give and coming up empty.

The dude was a fucking airline pilot and on junk? Good riddance.

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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:14:28 PM EST

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Both. For my surgeries, they shot it into my IV. It made me laugh uncontrollably.

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Both. For my surgeries, they shot it into my IV. It made me laugh uncontrollably.

Okay, it that stuff, I remember on my shoulder surgery right before I went under I was gonna try to tell a joke and I couldn't speak, killer buzz then I was out.