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8/21/2018 4:28:37 PM EDT
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Agreed - except for maybe the last sentence.

There's that sweet FCI somewhere in Virginia (near Charlottesville, I think) where a lot of the convicted Congressmen and Martha Stewart spent their time...he'll get something like that.
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So B_S...we’ve been hearing you and your kommrade spouting off since the election that
A) Trump was guilty
B) FBI/DOJ had legitimate reasons to spy

A year and a half where EVERYTHING that could possibly be used to make Trump look bad has been leaked. Nothing points to collusion. Are you ready at this point to announce you have been wrong and you are willing to get on board and support your fellow countrymen?
8/21/2018 4:32:24 PM EDT
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ETA:  Date of Count 8 apparently matches the Stormy Daniels payoff - FYI
8/21/2018 4:33:37 PM EDT
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So B_S...we’ve been hearing you and your kommrade spouting off since the election that
A) Trump was guilty
B) FBI/DOJ had legitimate reasons to spy

A year and a half where EVERYTHING that could possibly be used to make Trump look bad has been leaked. Nothing points to collusion. Are you ready at this point to announce you have been wrong and you are willing to get on board and support your fellow countrymen?
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Agreed - except for maybe the last sentence.

There's that sweet FCI somewhere in Virginia (near Charlottesville, I think) where a lot of the convicted Congressmen and Martha Stewart spent their time...he'll get something like that.
So B_S...we’ve been hearing you and your kommrade spouting off since the election that
A) Trump was guilty
B) FBI/DOJ had legitimate reasons to spy

A year and a half where EVERYTHING that could possibly be used to make Trump look bad has been leaked. Nothing points to collusion. Are you ready at this point to announce you have been wrong and you are willing to get on board and support your fellow countrymen?
Not going to derail this thread.
8/21/2018 4:37:06 PM EDT
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Well you’re not as bad as T_S but you still have a major bias which kind of derail threads you’re apart of. You’re kind of like that conspiracy ghurka poster that’s always posting non sense.
8/21/2018 4:37:34 PM EDT
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if they have a verdict on the tax evasion charges and hung on the other ones they are almost assuredly going to find him guilty on those tax charges, they are the most clear cut.
8/21/2018 4:38:29 PM EDT
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Well you’re not as bad as T_S but you still have a major bias which kind of derail threads you’re apart of. You’re kind of like that conspiracy ghurka poster that’s always posting non sense.
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Not going to derail this thread.
Well you’re not as bad as T_S but you still have a major bias which kind of derail threads you’re apart of. You’re kind of like that conspiracy ghurka poster that’s always posting non sense.
Right in the feelz.
8/21/2018 4:39:20 PM EDT
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if they have a verdict on the tax evasion charges and hung on the other ones they are almost assuredly going to find him guilty on those tax charges, they are the most clear cut.
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if they have a verdict on the tax evasion charges and hung on the other ones they are almost assuredly going to find him guilty on those tax charges, they are the most clear cut.
That was for Cohen - not Manafort.

Confusing since it's 8 counts for both right now...
8/21/2018 4:40:24 PM EDT
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Maybe Trump should hire Hilary, given that everyone else he hires gets locked up?
8/21/2018 4:41:52 PM EDT
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Guilty of tax evasion for well before Trump was running against Hillary!    Proving Russian collusion is that much closer to us all!!!!!!  
8/21/2018 4:43:32 PM EDT
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Right in the feelz.
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You've had some good points, but then you go on “what if’s” and base them sometimes on truths. It’s few but it hurts your credibility. Like I said you’re not as bad as T_S and I still hear what you’re saying. Just tone it down a touch.

Not that my opinion matters to you at the end of the day. If Trump has done some dirty stuff I absolutely what to be in the know. So much disinformation out there.
8/21/2018 4:48:22 PM EDT
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And Hillary and Bill leave a trail of dead bodies back 30 years, not to mention rape and their dubious trust fund.  If for some reason yet unknown they somehow get Trump out of office,  I think I will head to the Alaska wilderness and disappear because this country will come apart in no time.
8/21/2018 4:48:57 PM EDT
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So no Trump-Russian collusion.

And Manafort may walk Scot free.
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Why do you think this "plea deal" just suddenly popped up in the news?
Manafort.
8/21/2018 4:51:23 PM EDT
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Cohen says he committed the campaign finance violation with the coordination and at the direction of a "Candidate for Federal Office".
8/21/2018 4:52:19 PM EDT
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But declines to say at the direction of whom.
8/21/2018 4:52:20 PM EDT
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...so?
8/21/2018 4:52:36 PM EDT
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Goddamn Hillary at it again!
8/21/2018 4:53:39 PM EDT
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Conspiracy to evade temple tax, violation of alcohol distillation laws, providing alcohol without a tax stamp, practicing medicine without a license, fishing without a license, catching over the daily limit, assault, consorting with prostitutes, grave robbing ......
8/21/2018 4:54:37 PM EDT
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Cohen says he committed the campaign finance violation with the coordination and at the direction of a "Candidate for Federal Office".
But declines to say at the direction of whom.
I guess it could have been another "Candidate for Federal Office" that Cohen was working for...
8/21/2018 4:56:40 PM EDT
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It could be Drumpf himself!

Hope he has recordings.
8/21/2018 4:59:14 PM EDT
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It could be Drumpf himself!

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I guess it could have been another "Candidate for Federal Office" that Cohen was working for...
It could be Drumpf himself!

Hope he has recordings.
If the money flowed from Trump or Trump Org it will be a bit difficult to pull a SODDI defense.
8/21/2018 5:00:01 PM EDT
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But but but what about the Clintons? Some of you are really pathetic.
8/21/2018 5:03:43 PM EDT
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If the money flowed from Trump or Trump Org it will be a bit difficult to pull a SODDI defense.
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I guess it could have been another "Candidate for Federal Office" that Cohen was working for...
It could be Drumpf himself!

Hope he has recordings.
If the money flowed from Trump or Trump Org it will be a bit difficult to pull a SODDI defense.
It will be difficult to prove another person who has already or will shortly plead guilty to a crime actually committed the crime?   Did you think about that before you typed it?

Assuming paying off a porn star is even a violation of campaign finance laws.    I would love to see the argument on that one.
8/21/2018 5:04:43 PM EDT
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But but but what about the Clintons? Some of you are really pathetic.
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The Clintons have done far worse and have done tremendous damage to the country. These plea deals and verdicts weren't given to her...she was let free and given several passes.

Explain that.
8/21/2018 5:05:37 PM EDT
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It is fucking over for Trump.....OVER!!!!!!!!
8/21/2018 5:06:06 PM EDT
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This looks bad as fuck and all anyone can say is what about the clintons. This ain’t good.
8/21/2018 5:07:03 PM EDT
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Maybe Trump should hire Hilary, given that everyone else he hires gets locked up?
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8/21/2018 5:07:32 PM EDT
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It will be difficult to prove another person who has already or will shortly plead guilty to a crime actually committed the crime?   Did you think about that before you typed it?

Assuming paying off a porn star is even a violation of campaign finance laws.    I would love to see the argument on that one.  
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Politicians really don't want this to happen...

Otherwise every single one of them is going to violate campaign finance law...

Trump has paid people off for years..before ever running for president...but because he is running a campaign..now it's against the law?

lol
8/21/2018 5:08:27 PM EDT
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Well, the only place that comes up is on Bloomberg and Twitter (With NYT citing bloomberg).  WaPo, CBS, or anyone else doesn't say anything like that.
8/21/2018 5:08:31 PM EDT
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This looks bad as fuck and all anyone can say is what about the clintons. This ain’t good.
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Looks bad?

The full weight of law enforcement and intelligence agencies went rogue to destroy a presidential candidate, his campaign and his presidency.

That is going to look bad.
8/21/2018 5:08:34 PM EDT
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Maybe Trump should hire Hilary, given that everyone else he hires gets locked up?
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8/21/2018 5:08:49 PM EDT
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MAGA - Making Attorneys Get Attorneys!

I am SO tired of the winning!
8/21/2018 5:10:19 PM EDT
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I keep trying to explain to those numb-nuts that if you compare yourself to the Clintons, then you are only just better than the Clintons.
That ain't that good of a defense.
8/21/2018 5:11:13 PM EDT
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Michael Cohen pleads GUILTY to paying Stormy Daniels for her silence 'at the direction of' Trump in stunning blow to the president.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6083533/Cohen-discussing-possible-GUILTY-plea-following-report-alleged-fraud-probe.html
8/21/2018 5:12:30 PM EDT
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Michael Cohen pleads GUILTY to paying Stormy Daniels for her silence 'at the direction of' Trump in stunning blow to the president.

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I was just told that wasn't illegal.
8/21/2018 5:14:53 PM EDT
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I see pardons inbound.
8/21/2018 5:16:52 PM EDT
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Deputy US Attorney speaking now.

I think the US Attorney recused himself...
8/21/2018 5:17:48 PM EDT
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Deputy US Attorney speaking now.

I think the US Attorney recused himself...
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8/21/2018 5:18:37 PM EDT
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Deputy US Attorney speaking now.

I think the US Attorney recused himself...
No joke - I think he did

ETA:  He did. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-attorney-trump-appointee-recused-michael-cohen-investigation/story?id=54365546
8/21/2018 5:19:29 PM EDT
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Having a contractual non-disclose with cash incentive is not illegal. Why would Trump use campaign funds. He wouldn't.

This stinks as bad as muh-russia investigation.
8/21/2018 5:19:41 PM EDT
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Can someone please make a separate thread with this exact question including a poll?
8/21/2018 5:21:14 PM EDT
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If you can't see how these prosecutions are politically motivated steaming piles then you have severe problems that need to be addressed.

Tax fraud?  From 2005?   That took a special Special counsel to find and prosecute?

Are you kidding me?
8/21/2018 5:22:09 PM EDT
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I keep trying to explain to those numb-nuts that if you compare yourself to the Clintons, then you are only just better than the Clintons.
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This looks bad as fuck and all anyone can say is what about the clintons. This ain’t good.
I keep trying to explain to those numb-nuts that if you compare yourself to the Clintons, then you are only just better than the Clintons.
That ain't that good of a defense.
*yawn

We are still waiting for an impartial grand jury indictment of clinton or her cronies.
8/21/2018 5:23:08 PM EDT
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I bet Mr Trump wishes he wasn't so cheap over the hush money paid to the whores, pennies in his piggybank in the scheme of things. Of course the only thing Mr Trump loves better than paying off whores is paying off whores from somebody else's piggybanks.
8/21/2018 5:23:13 PM EDT
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Prosecutors having a presser right now.
8/21/2018 5:23:18 PM EDT
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Maybe Trump should hire Hilary, given that everyone else he hires gets locked up?
You laugh but that's just crazy enough that it might work!
8/21/2018 5:23:32 PM EDT
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Michael Cohen pleads GUILTY to paying Stormy Daniels for her silence 'at the direction of' Trump in stunning blow to the president.

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I was just told that wasn't illegal.  
Is it illegal?  I am not aware of a federal statute that reads "paying Stormy Daniels for her silence" is a federal crime.   Do you have a reference for such a statute?
8/21/2018 5:23:48 PM EDT
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Listening to press conference. Cohen sounds like a real scumbag.
8/21/2018 5:23:55 PM EDT
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Federal Prosecutor:

"We're going to continue to vindicate those that choose to break the law."



Good thing he pled Guilty with that kind of brain power arrayed against him.
8/21/2018 5:24:50 PM EDT
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Even though you won't say it.

Trump is still your president.
8/21/2018 5:24:55 PM EDT
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Deputy US Attorney speaking now.

I think the US Attorney recused himself...
No joke - I think he did

ETA:  He did. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-attorney-trump-appointee-recused-michael-cohen-investigation/story?id=54365546
DOH!

"Berman is a Trump appointee with ties to Rudy Giuliani who donated money to the 2016 Trump campaign, and is a longtime Trump ally and supporter."

RUDY!
RUDY!
RUDY!

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